Photographers: How do you carry?

[Papa_Complex]

We seem to have enough shooters in this place that I figure I might get an answer. I'm looking for a better solution, for carrying a couple of SLR cameras and maybe another long lens around the track.

Up until this point I've been using a Lowepro Slingshot 300AW and it does a fairly good job, but it gets a bit fatiguing after a day around the track and won't hold a 3rd long lens and second body. It's kind of tough to jump the pit wall while wearing it too.

One of the thoughts that I've had is the Lowepro (yeah, I like their stuff :lol:) mesh photographer's vest with a couple of body bags fitted for long lenses, a lens case for another lens, and a couple of small pouches for the little stuff, like sparer memory and filters.

Anyone have a solution that works for them? Anyone tried what I'm thinkin g of? Ideas?

[Sixxxxer]

http://www.tamrac.com/frame_exp.htm

I dont personally Have it...But have seen one.

Thing is a Monster

[Papa_Complex]

Yup, that's pretty damned big! Unfortunately that works against it in this case. I'm trying to figure out something that I could use, that I wouldn't need to put down every time that I start to shoot. The 300AW sling bag is pretty convenient because it's a side loader, but unfortunately I've moved into pro grade optics and that limits the number that I can carry at a time in this:

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery/galleries/Evolt500/_thumbs/700x500-P1010004.JPG

[thunderex]

I use a LowePro Vertex. It's more inconvenient than the Sling bag (I have the 200) but it holds more and is more comfortable. I don't really have a solution for your need for quick changes.

[Papa_Complex]

The Vertex and that Tamrac Expedition both look very similar in design. I like that they both have a place for a monopod or tripod; that would be very convenient. It's one thing that's missing from the Slingshot.

Typically around the track, I see the other shooters walking around with one big white "L" lens. Usually something like a 500 F4 IS, which is likely worth my camera body and two best lenses. They don't generally use multiple lenses because they shoot in teams, with each shooter being responsible for soemthing specific. I'm working on my own, so I have to have multiple lenses. The more convenient I can make that and the easier I can move around, the better.

If I was shooting normal and wide, then there would be an easy solution. Then I could just get myself one of the two camera neck straps and be done. This should give you an idea why that wouldn't work; Zuiko 35-100 F2.0, Sigma 50-500 F4.5-6.3, and Zuiko 50-200 F2.8-3.5. I'm thinking of leaving the 50-500 in the car and using a 2x teleconverter instead, but that would cost me both in reach and focus speed.

[thunderex]

The Bigma covers the long Zuiko's range. Is there a reason for carrying the 50-200 while you have the 50-500? Just for the faster aperture? It just seems like you have a lot of overlap in your lenses. Could you do with the Bigma and a medium prime like a 50 for short DOF shots? What length are you generally using the 35-100 in?

[Papa_Complex]

The Bigma covers the long Zuiko's range. Is there a reason for carrying the 50-200 while you have the 50-500? Just for the faster aperture? It just seems like you have a lot of overlap in your lenses. Could you do with the Bigma and a medium prime like a 50 for short DOF shots? What length are you generally using the 35-100 in?

There is a lot of overlap, but they have different purposes. I have considered leaving the 50-200 behind but always end up regretting it, and primes just don't cut it in my kind of shooting. You just can't do the 'human zoom' when you're surrounded by a hundred racers, crew, and family with pocket cams. Then there are the dozen cut-throat pros who are all trying to get that perfect shot to the point that they'll put themselves right in front of you, so that you can't get yours.

35-100 F2.0 - Podium shots and the odd portrait, or candid. I can leave it behind during Friday (practise) and Saturday (qualifying) during regional racing rounds, but have to carry it on both Saturday and Sunday on national weekends, because they are usually double-headers.

50-200 F2.8-3.5 SWD - My main candid lens. It's bright enough to reach into darkened canopies and long enough that I get REAL candids, instead of people starting to pose when they see me coming. It also replaces the Bigma on cloudy days, at the cost of a lot of reach.

50-500 F4.0-6.3 HSM - I took a look at it and I had the low end aperture wrong, though it's really damned near just a F6.3. My lens for on-track work. I rarely actually go out into the corners because it takes too long to get back off, so the reach is a necessity. Obviously best in full sunlight when shooting fast moving objects.

I left out my 14-54 F2.8-3.5 because it's usually on my backup body (E-510) and the combination is so small, that it isn't an issue.

If I could park under the podium then it wouldn't be an issue. I'd just go back to get what I needed at the time. That isn't an option at my normal track though and DEFINITELY not at a larger park like Mosport, or Calabogie.

[Yamerhaw]

used to have a tamrac a while back, now have this and I LOVE it!

[Papa_Complex]

Got any internal shots of it?

While I'm trying to answer a specific question, we could always throw this open so that everyone could fish for ideas.

[Lamnidae]

Typically around the track, I see the other shooters walking around with one big white "L" lens. Usually something like a 500 F4 IS, which is likely worth my camera body and two best lenses.



<~~~~~ Guilty.

*hugs his 100-400m L*


F'king lense is awesome.


Anyways I typically just carry my Adventure 10 here (http://www.tamrac.com/5550.htm) but it doesn't fit the long lense, so i just carry around another backpack too.

[Papa_Complex]

That's how I feel about my 35-100 F2.0. The uses that I've listed above are projected for next season. So far I've used it at a wedding and I just couldn't put it down. Next weekend it'll get a workout at the bike show.

[Sixxxxer]

my 70 - 200 Is Kickass...But I'm looking for a 12 - 24 Next...and then Possibly a Nifty Fifty.

[thunderex]

my 70 - 200 Is Kickass...But I'm looking for a 12 - 24 Next...and then Possibly a Nifty Fifty.
Which 70-200 do you have? The 2.4 or the 4? I have the 4 and I like it a lot but I really dig my 17-55 IS 2.8. I'm considering getting the 50/1.4 later rather than the Plastic Fantastic but I'll have to see if I need it. I have a Sigma 30/1.4 that I might just use in its place. I think my next purchase will be a Metz 58A flash rather than another lens. I also want to possibly upgrade to the 50D but I might wait to see what the 60 brings to the table.

[Sixxxxer]

Actually...I forgot its the 55-200MM F4...But Essentially its the same lens.

I LOVE It.

[Papa_Complex]

Which 70-200 do you have? The 2.4 or the 4? I have the 4 and I like it a lot but I really dig my 17-55 IS 2.8. I'm considering getting the 50/1.4 later rather than the Plastic Fantastic but I'll have to see if I need it. I have a Sigma 30/1.4 that I might just use in its place. I think my next purchase will be a Metz 58A flash rather than another lens. I also want to possibly upgrade to the 50D but I might wait to see what the 60 brings to the table.

I have a pretty good copy of the Sigma 30mm F1.4 and find it to be fairly soft until F2.0. That's not so bad for portrait shots of women, when you want a little artistic blur, but I'd prefer to have the choice of blurring in post.

There also seems to be a fair bit of sample variation in the 30mm lens. From what I've heard it seems to be about 50/50 whether you get a good copy.

[Yamerhaw]

Got any internal shots of it?

While I'm trying to answer a specific question, we could always throw this open so that everyone could fish for ideas.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Apollo-Camera-Backpack-Bag-able-to-fit-Canon-Nikon-Sony_W0QQitemZ310112136962QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBags_ Cases_Straps?hash=item310112136962&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[Papa_Complex]

While it doesn't look like it would fill my needs, that definitely looks useful. I could see someone who uses a long lens, wides, and primes getting good use out of it.

[Mr Lefty]

thought this would be pretty cool
http://www.rotation360.com/
http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/467/think_thank_rotation360_camera_bag_zoom.jpg

[Mr Lefty]

check here
https://www.crumplerbags.com/flash/flash.aspx#/english/products.html


I like this one though...
https://www.crumplerbags.com/flash/flash.aspx#/english/product-details/7-million-dollar-home-md0703a.html


pretty cool if ya ask me

[Lamnidae]

thought this would be pretty cool
http://www.rotation360.com/
http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/467/think_thank_rotation360_camera_bag_zoom.jpg


Personally I don't do fanny packs.

just screams plus1

[Mr Lefty]

Neither do I... just bought this
http://www.amazon.com/Crumpler-MILLION-DOLLAR-Shoulder-Oatmeal/dp/B000W8ZDWA/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_3

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HelQS31zL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JYkssXx1L._AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4183MTzpXoL._AA280_.jpg

[OneSickPsycho]

Ebbs, your purse brings out your eyes. Fag.

[DaveDD]

We've got the Tamrac sling (velocity 10x)...I'm happy with it, but there really isn't that much room. It's nice cause you never have to put the bag down.

http://www.tamrac.com/5770.htm

http://www.tamrac.com/5770-cls-K_lg.jpg
http://www.tamrac.com/LA-5770_lg.jpg
http://www.tamrac.com/5770-MdlFrt_2X_lg.jpg

[Mr Lefty]

Ebbs, your purse brings out your eyes. Fag.

you're the one look'n deeply into my eyes... but I guess that's better than T-Rock look'n at my ass...

[OneSickPsycho]

you're the one look'n deeply into my eyes... but I guess that's better than T-Rock look'n at my ass...

Deeply?

[Mr Lefty]

well deep enough to know the bag brings them out...

[Lamnidae]

Deeply?

well deep enough to know the bag brings them out...

The conversation between Ebbs and OSP just screams..........

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/happyspry/Rainbow_lips_by_Ritokas.jpg

[marko138]

Neither do I... just bought this
http://www.amazon.com/Crumpler-MILLION-DOLLAR-Shoulder-Oatmeal/dp/B000W8ZDWA/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_3

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HelQS31zL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JYkssXx1L._AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4183MTzpXoL._AA280_.jpg

We've got the Tamrac sling (velocity 10x)...I'm happy with it, but there really isn't that much room. It's nice cause you never have to put the bag down.

http://www.tamrac.com/5770.htm

http://www.tamrac.com/5770-cls-K_lg.jpg
http://www.tamrac.com/LA-5770_lg.jpg
http://www.tamrac.com/5770-MdlFrt_2X_lg.jpg


Those are both good looking bags.


I'm a TV photojournalist....so I cant bring much to this conversation...other than to say I use a mountain climbers bag to keep my stuff in....my wide-eye, tapes, battery, XLR cables, Mics...etc.

[Papa_Complex]

The Million Dollar Bag gets really good reviews from users (the only reviews that are worth a damn). I've been thinking of picking one up for light duty work. Really could have used one yesterday at the bike show.

One thing that seems to be a constant is that anyone who shoots even semi-seriously tends to have several different bags. For my part I've been making sue with just the Slingshot 300AW. I had a light duty bag but I sold that off, along with my old E-500 a while back. Packaged the whole thing up as a beginner's kit.

[Sauron]

I've got the Tamrac Expedition 7. It's a great bag. I have 2 bodies (30D and 40D), 2 Flashes (550&580), and the following lens in it Sigma 70-200 2.8, Canon 17-55 IS, Canon 28-135 IS, Tamron 28-300.

My only complaint is that fully loaded, it's damn heavy. That Tamrac velocity 10x above looks like a nice comprimise when you know you won't need the full kit bag, which is what I use the Expedition for.

[Papa_Complex]

I'm going to try and get out to the local camera shop at lunch and see if they actually have the Lowepro vest and belt that they claim to, on their website. I've got a feeling that I'll be dumping about $350.00 on those and cases in the next week or two. I've got a gift card from Christmas that I have to spend with them but after that, I'll be hitting the B&H website.