Would you rather have a 2008 Caddy STS V-8 or 2008 Lexus IS350?

[101lifts2]

???

[Ninjakel]

The caddy, hands down. been in both of those cars, the caddy is way nicer.

[Mr Lefty]

Lexus... hands down... made by toyota... can't go wrong... caddy may be nicer... but if I was investing my money... the lexus will hold it's value longer and be more reliable. :2cents:

[JARVIS518]

Lexus... hands down... made by toyota... can't go wrong... caddy may be nicer... but if I was investing my money... the lexus will hold it's value longer and be more reliable. :2cents:

was thinking the same thing

[Mr Lefty]

was thinking the same thing

that's cause you're a smart mother fucker

[Dave]

those two cars dont compare at all

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/2008_sts_lo_01.jpg

http://www.gtchannel.com/files/07-is350-hero.jpg

and when it comes to sports sedan vs giant land barge im gonna go sports sedan

[Corey]

Neither

[PhiSig1071]

For the price of the Caddy I'd get a new M3.

[JARVIS518]

that's cause you're a smart mother fucker


that and i use to do valet parking i had a few favorite cars to drive and when they showed up i would make sure i got to drive them most of the lexus's, mini's, lotus elise, audi A4 those were my favs of the regulars we got to drive

cadi might b a bit roomier on the inside then the lexus but the lexus is still a very nice car also

[Chris S]

For the price of the Caddy I'd get a new M3.

Me too. For Caddy, I'd go w/ the CTS-V, for Lexus I'd have to step up to the IS-F. The baby Lexus has a really tight back seat, though.

[101lifts2]

those two cars dont compare at all

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/2008_sts_lo_01.jpg

http://www.gtchannel.com/files/07-is350-hero.jpg

and when it comes to sports sedan vs giant land barge im gonna go sports sedan


Actually the Caddy STS is identical in dimensions to the CTS, but its 5 inches longer and 1 inch taller. The Lexus is 70.6 width vs. 72.6.

And reliablity...

http://autos.nytimes.com/2008/Lexus/IS_350/258/10010/293611/researchRatings.aspx

http://autos.nytimes.com/2008/Cadillac/STS/237/3405/289762/researchRatings.aspx

[101lifts2]

that's cause you're a smart mother fucker

Thats because he's a follow the bandwagon mutherfucker. Prolly never even owned a Toyota product.

[101lifts2]

that and i use to do valet parking i had a few favorite cars to drive and when they showed up i would make sure i got to drive them most of the lexus's, mini's, lotus elise, audi A4 those were my favs of the regulars we got to drive

cadi might b a bit roomier on the inside then the lexus but the lexus is still a very nice car also

So you make a determination for all that 20 seconds you move the car from the front to the back? I see. LOL

[PhiSig1071]

Me too. For Caddy, I'd go w/ the CTS-V, for Lexus I'd have to step up to the IS-F. The baby Lexus has a really tight back seat, though.

Just out of curiosity why are you selling the Superduke and what do you want for it?

[Mr Lefty]

Thats because he's a follow the bandwagon mutherfucker. Prolly never even owned a Toyota product.

well as he's follow'n me... and I'm a smart mother fucker... who's owned several toyota products... and know their quality...

I'm ok with that:dthumb:

[JARVIS518]

u asked for an opion not for a reasoning for the opinion

sry next time i wont give my input whether i know from facts or just from what i have heard


oh and when cars are valeted they dont always go straight to the back if you catch my drift

[fasternyou929]

So you make a determination for all that 20 seconds you move the car from the front to the back? I see. LOL
It takes way less than 20 seconds to compare a GM to a Lexus/Toyota/Nissan and see that GM is a rolling pile of shit by comparison. :P

My biggest gripe about GM is their interiors. Ditch the cheap looking plastic (even in the Corvettes :panic:) and spend some time and money making the interiors look better. It's where any buyer is going to spend the majority of their time.

[Mr Lefty]

So you make a determination for all that 20 seconds you move the car from the front to the back? I see. LOL

you just asked... I'm not sure how many of us have driven both cars... i haven't... but you asked which one I'd take... given what I know... I'd choose the Lexus...

I'm sure there's more to this story I'm miss'n... (passed issues :idk:) but you ask for an opinion... dude offered his... :idk:

[Alicia]

CTS-V FTW. That LS2 engine is SICK.

[Corey]

So you make a determination for all that 20 seconds you move the car from the front to the back? I see. LOL

Yes, because when I step in shit, I don't feel the need to leave my foot in it while I decide whether the consistancy of the turds would be comparable or favorable to a cashmere sock, or how the smell would linger over the next few days. :lol:


Just bustin your balls man.

[Alicia]

It takes way less than 20 seconds to compare a GM to a Lexus/Toyota/Nissan and see that GM is a rolling pile of shit by comparison. :P

My biggest gripe about GM is their interiors. Ditch the cheap looking plastic (even in the Corvettes :panic:) and spend some time and money making the interiors look better. It's where any buyer is going to spend the majority of their time.

To each their own. :)

[101lifts2]

u asked for an opion not for a reasoning for the opinion

sry next time i wont give my input whether i know from facts or just from what i have heard


oh and when cars are valeted they dont always go straight to the back if you catch my drift


Sorry my bad...I'm assuming u are the mofo that got caught fuckin around with some dudes car? On video? LOL

[Chris S]

Actually the Caddy STS is identical in dimensions to the CTS, but its 5 inches longer and 1 inch taller.

Way to contradict yourself within the same sentence! :)

[Chris S]

Just out of curiosity why are you selling the Superduke and what do you want for it?

Since I had my first child in mid-Oct., I'd like to mitigate my risk by restricting my riding to dirt bikes and sticking w/ sports cars for fun in the twisties.

I'm asking $10,495, and that's w/ Akra Evo exhaust and many other goodies. Only around 2,700 miles, too. It's the best street bike I've ever ridden, bar none!

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/968188018.html

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2144691009_6e2482f53b_o.jpg

[Dave]

Actually the Caddy STS is identical in dimensions to the CTS, but its 5 inches longer and 1 inch taller. The Lexus is 70.6 width vs. 72.6.

And reliablity...

http://autos.nytimes.com/2008/Lexus/IS_350/258/10010/293611/researchRatings.aspx

http://autos.nytimes.com/2008/Cadillac/STS/237/3405/289762/researchRatings.aspx

when i said land barge i was refferring to its purpose not its size. i stand by my statement. the is can do things that caddy never could

CTS-V FTW. That LS2 engine is SICK.

sorry this test was multiple choice and you cant make any write ins. fail

[Flexin]

Lexus... hands down... made by toyota... can't go wrong... caddy may be nicer... but if I was investing my money... the lexus will hold it's value longer and be more reliable. :2cents:

A was talking to a girl I went to high school with. She a Toyota and she was complaining about it breaking down. She had to send it to the shop. I talked to her later in that week and asked if her car was fixed. She said that she spent over $1000 to get it fixed. I think it was closer to $1500. Then the next day the transmission went on it.

There is not a car on the road that will not break down at some point.

Without driving them both first I would pick the Caddy.

James

[Mr Lefty]

Very true... there's lemons of every brand... no doubt. but Toyota has it's rep for a reason. I wonder what the issue was with her car... just from general curiosity...

I've owned several Toyotas, Three GM's, and a Mitsubishi... two of the GMS were complete shit... the third was fine for me... but gave the people I sold it to nothing but problems... which sucks cause they're my parents. The Mitsubishi was great up until the transmission went out... then it crumbled. The Toyotas... worst I've had was a blown head gasket... and that was on a motor with 370,000 original miles.

[Flexin]

Very true... there's lemons of every brand... no doubt. but Toyota has it's rep for a reason. I wonder what the issue was with her car... just from general curiosity...

I've owned several Toyotas, Three GM's, and a Mitsubishi... two of the GMS were complete shit... the third was fine for me... but gave the people I sold it to nothing but problems... which sucks cause they're my parents. The Mitsubishi was great up until the transmission went out... then it crumbled. The Toyotas... worst I've had was a blown head gasket... and that was on a motor with 370,000 original miles.

I can't remember the problems that were there before the transmission when. But it was more then one problem.

I just find it funny when someone says "You can't go wrong with XXXXXX". I don't care what brand it its, they all break. If a company can come out with a car that doesn't break and is within reach price wise with the avg person then the other companies are screwed.

I had a customer at my detail shop. He said he was buying a car for his daughter. I knew he owned an old Dodge muscle car so I thought he would be going domestic. He said he was looking for a Honda and said you can't go wrong with a Honda. I tried not to laugh. He gave the car to me when he bought it and I detailed it before he gave it to his daughter. Over the next year he paid a few hundred dollars more in repairs then what he paid for the car and was still having a few problems. He said he wanted to sell it. I was thinking that he had almost everything replaced now so he should just keep the thing. It was all because of the belief that Hondas are reliable and don't cost much to run. It was an old Honda.

My in laws bought a 98 Nissan Maxima in I think 2002. I liked the Maxima myself but I just couldn't bring myself to pay what they wanted for them. I bought a 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue that was fully loaded. For what I paid for it I would have had to buy a 96 Maxima and it still would have had more kms. During the time we owned these cars we both has problems. Like I said they all break. But I think I was happier with my car. My father in law thought my car had nicer leather then his. And mine had some features his didn't have. In the end I think mine cost less then his and I did have a transmission problem with mine.

A friend bought a Prelude and had so many problems with that car it wasn't funny.

James

[Homeslice]

The Lexus period, just because of looks. Both the IS and LS are so fricking hot looking.

The Caddy looks OK, but too square IMO.

[Mikey]

Without driving either, I'd say Caddy.

And for the record, I've owned three Toyotas, three Fords, and five GMs. Of them all, the GMs have been the most reliable, and only the Toyotas have ever left me stranded. ;)

[Flexin]

The Lexus period, just because of looks. Both the IS and LS are so fricking hot looking.

The Caddy looks OK, but too square IMO.

I think the new Lexus looks to long and narrow in the front end.

James

[Homeslice]

Actually the Caddy STS is identical in dimensions to the CTS, but its 5 inches longer and 1 inch taller. The Lexus is 70.6 width vs. 72.6.


You call 5 inches longer identical? Totally different class of car dude........That's like comparing a 7-series BMW to a 5-series.

Nobody in the world would cross-shop between an STS and an IS. You should have said CTS and IS.

If anything, the STS would compete with the LS, not the IS.

[Dave]

You call 5 inches longer identical? Totally different class of car dude........That's like comparing a 7-series BMW to a 5-series.

Nobody in the world would cross-shop between an STS and an IS. You should have said CTS and IS.

If anything, the STS would compete with the LS, not the IS.


more like 5 series to a 3 series

[pauldun170]

If I were forced to choose between the 2 I'd go with the Caddy.

Toyota's are boring and lifeless to drive and the IS350 is designed for people who either have ovaries or think that Asian anything is better by default.

If it were the older IS300, I'd choose that.

[PhiSig1071]

Since I had my first child in mid-Oct., I'd like to mitigate my risk by restricting my riding to dirt bikes and sticking w/ sports cars for fun in the twisties.

I'm asking $10,495, and that's w/ Akra Evo exhaust and many other goodies. Only around 2,700 miles, too. It's the best street bike I've ever ridden, bar none!

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/968188018.html



As soon as I start my new job I am planning on picking up a Superduke, but it probably wont be until August, so it's not the right timeframe. Wish it was, I'd pick that thing up from you in a heartbeat.

[Rider]

For about the same money I'd rather get a Nissan 370Z or an Infinity G37.

[marko138]

Caddy. I absolutely LOVE the STS.

[Katana-750_lady]

Can I say neither?

<---------------------my dream car.

But, If I absolutely had no choice, the caddy.

[Dave]

For about the same money I'd rather get a Nissan 370Z or an Infinity G37.

bingo! saw it in person yesterday. sessy bish but huuuge wheel arches

[z06boy]

There are other cars for the $$$ that I would rather have but between these two I'd probably take the Lexus.

[Adeptus_Minor]

I rode in one of the IS 350's when the roomie was shopping for a 'nice' car.
I liked the comfort and the refinement of the interior, but I think the Caddy is a little more my style.

[101lifts2]

Way to contradict yourself within the same sentence! :)

Almost identical. Same width and a five longer (length of finger). He was acting like it was 2 feet wider and 4 feet longer with this barge comment.

[Dave]

well one does thirteens and the other signifigantly more. also, 3/4 of my cars are small 2 seaters and the one that isint glorifys in its "boat" status

[101lifts2]

You call 5 inches longer identical? Totally different class of car dude........That's like comparing a 7-series BMW to a 5-series.

Nobody in the world would cross-shop between an STS and an IS. You should have said CTS and IS.

If anything, the STS would compete with the LS, not the IS.


The CTS is the same width...length of one finger is nothing.

OK CTS vs IS...I'd take the CTS.

[Dave]

cts-v vs is350 id go with the v

[Mr Lefty]

IS

[Dave]

IS

if toyota came to their senses and put a proper tranny in it id change my mind. could never stand up to the nsx though :dthumb:

[Mr Lefty]

if toyota came to their senses and put a proper tranny in it id change my mind. could never stand up to the nsx though :dthumb:

yeah I do hate the vagina manual...

give me a damn 6 speed


but still...


IS

[Dave]

toyota really needs to do a back to basics sports coupe in the image of the 2000gt (one of the most beautiful cars ever to come from that region IMO) im of course talkin' inline six, independant throttles with minimal silencing and a six speed

[Mr Lefty]

toyota really needs to do a back to basics sports coupe in the image of the 2000gt (one of the most beautiful cars ever to come from that region IMO) im of course talkin' inline six, independant throttles with minimal silencing and a six speed

yeah... shit I'd be happy if they'd just "over build" their trucks like they did with my 87...

they built them to last forever... now they've cut it back a bit... they're still better built than most others IMO... but not with the same effort or vision they used to...

[Homeslice]

cts-v vs is350 id go with the v

isn't that at least a few thou more expensive than the IS?

[Dave]

not my money

[Homeslice]

Ah I see...........in that case I'll take a Maserati Quattroporte. Fuckin pimp.

[Dave]

damn skippy! i work in philly and see at least two a week. def missed my chance to bag one. guy left it running, unlocked, and unattended on the street! how careless is that?

[z06boy]

cts-v vs is350 id go with the v

Ok this is different. In this case I'd take the Caddy. :dthumb:

[deals gap dragon slayer]

toyota will still be around in 10 years.. So i'd take the lexus...

[101lifts2]

Ah I see...........in that case I'll take a Maserati Quattroporte. Fuckin pimp.

Shits ugly for the 85 grand price....overpriced junk IMO.

[fasternyou929]

Shits ugly for the 85 grand price....overpriced junk IMO.

What do you think of the Cobalt? :nee:

[pauldun170]

Shits ugly for the 85 grand price....overpriced junk IMO.

Agreed..

As for Toyota...doesn't matter how long that IS will last because I highly doubt that any owner will keep it past the life of the loan. (and somehow I don't see the IS as something the retirement "I'm gonna keep this car till they take my license away" is going to pick up)

[Dave]

Shits ugly for the 85 grand price....overpriced junk IMO.

can i buy pot from you?

[Cutty72]

Um which one is worth more? Cause when you give it to me I'm going right to the dealership to trade it off on a new pickup.

[101lifts2]

What do you think of the Cobalt? :nee:


I'd take the Cobalt across country before the Maserati for reliablity...but the Cobalt isn't a model either.

[101lifts2]

can i buy pot from you?

LOL..no

If I'm going to buy some Hyundai looking car I'd get the new Jag..


http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xf/gallery/photography.htm

[Adeptus_Minor]

Hey, I like the XF

[Homeslice]

Shits ugly for the 85 grand price....overpriced junk IMO.

And what does the Caddy look like? A brick, IMO. Took almost no effort to design :lmao:

[fasternyou929]

And what does the Caddy look like? A brick, IMO. Took almost no effort to design :lmao:

:lol: Now you have me picturing a group of designers gathered around a table staring at their version of a blank page... the block of clay. "Looks good, let's just put some lights on the corners and go home."

[101lifts2]

And what does the Caddy look like? A brick, IMO. Took almost no effort to design :lmao:

Depends on which type of vehicle you prefer. I like squared off vehicles vs. round ones...hence why I almost always buy trucks.

[Racerboy]

The following is with every single option offered (except AWD since its not available on the Lexus)

Cadillac CTS, $43,580 Fully Loaded, 304 HP V6
Cadillac CTS-V, $64,300 fully loaded with pavement blistering 556 HP Supercharged V8
Cadillac STS, $68,725 Fully Loaded, 320 HP Northstar V8
Cadillac STS-V, $82,735 469 HP Supercharged Northstar V8

Lexus IS350-F, $61,945, 416 hp from a 5.0L V8

I am a complete Toyota product fan (I'm on my 8th Toyota product currently) so I thought the choice would be made easily...however, I am also a die hard Cadillac fan who was raised on their old "The World's Standard" slogan which was true back in the day and have had about 8 Caddies as well, some much older (pre-1977 and a few newer (post 1990 models)

Cadillac and GM in general have put out some complete crap from the mid 70's to the mid 90's but have made great strides to not only bring back their previous owner loyalties but attract new younger clients as well.

In today's economy, I would be more inclined to support the US manufacturer over the foreign any day of the week as opposed to the Japanese.

So, my choice would be for the Cadillac.

[Mr Lefty]

Depends on which type of vehicle you prefer. I like squared off vehicles vs. round ones...hence why I almost always buy trucks.

see I like my TRUCKS squared off... but cars IMO... should be sleak.... but different strokes... diffrent folks

[Homeslice]

Again, I don't see why you guys are comparing the STS to the IS...........The IS is the SMALLEST of Lexus' four sedans. :idk:

And you can get an IS for as low as $32K, or $37K with the 3.5 engine.

[Sixxxxer]

I'd rather have an 08 ZX6R

[Antwanny]

the caddy because i know how much they slide in snow : )
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