age/women

[Dova80]

Seems all of a sudden my age is starting to tarnish my though of it being just a number. Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30, now the pickings of women has be reevaluating where I stand. It seems women are just crazy anymore, or perhaps I am but I am guessing the former. The lack of moral fiber in people in general is atrocious, the lack of general courtesy is appalling, and finding a girl without children and tattoos seems to be getting damn near impossible. This is very detrimental to my idea of having a family.

I am curious does anyone else have this problem? Perhaps my standards are to high for my income?


its time for another rum and pepsi...

[VatorMan]

Damn glad I don't have to date right now. Finding a well adjusted partner seems to be a problem these days. Maybe you are throwing off a bad vibe as well?:idk:

[Dave]

im turning 27 at the end of the month. im so excited to know its not getting any better :lol:

[Dova80]

Damn glad I don't have to date right now. Finding a well adjusted partner seems to be a problem these days. Maybe you are throwing off a bad vibe as well?:idk:

Probably my outlook is not the best in the world.. It is just a downward spiral of death, your not happy, others see it, you project it, and until you find happiness you will continue the cycle. Lesson learned, drink and be merry.

im turning 27 at the end of the month. im so excited to know its not getting any better :lol:


Well I thought it was just in my area, perhaps its a nation wide fad of women being worthless?

[Mr Lefty]

Seems all of a sudden my age is starting to tarnish my though of it being just a number. Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30, now the pickings of women has be reevaluating where I stand. It seems women are just crazy anymore, or perhaps I am but I am guessing the former. The lack of moral fiber in people in general is atrocious, the lack of general courtesy is appalling, and finding a girl without children and tattoos seems to be getting damn near impossible. This is very detrimental to my idea of having a family.

I am curious does anyone else have this problem? Perhaps my standards are to high for my income?


its time for another rum and pepsi...

:lol: I hear ya... at 23 I met the girl I was gonna merry but told myself I didn't wanna get married till I was 25 back when I was like 18... and I held on to that...

Now 5 almost 6 years later... I'm single... the girl is now married with two kids... and with my insanely picky nature... the picking is go'n on nill... :lol:

I did find one not too long ago that was quite an ideal catch... only problem... someone else "caught" her before I could.

your not alone brother...


but honestly... I've put to rest the idea of family... at least in any sort of near future... and look'n to work on the things that intrest me... while I still can... like ROAD TRIPS! :lol:

[Particle Man]

it's not your income that makes your standard too high.... it's the people around you.

people can be bastards.

[Dova80]

:lol: I hear ya... at 23 I met the girl I was gonna merry but told myself I didn't wanna get married till I was 25 back when I was like 18... and I held on to that...

Now 5 almost 6 years later... I'm single... the girl is now married with two kids... and with my insanely picky nature... the picking is go'n on nill... :lol:

I did find one not too long ago that was quite an ideal catch... only problem... someone else "caught" her before I could.

your not alone brother...


but honestly... I've put to rest the idea of family... at least in any sort of near future... and look'n to work on the things that intrest me... while I still can... like ROAD TRIPS! :lol:


I am glad to hear some honesty and not the bullshit about rainbows and sunshine if you just stop looking.

it's not your income that makes your standard too high.... it's the people around you.

people can be bastards.



Um yea, I think we may have pin pointed the problem I dont like most people... and thus dont want to be around them.

[Dave]

I did find one not too long ago that was quite an ideal catch... only problem... someone else "caught" her before I could.



theres a lot of those around. they still make great plutonic friends though, and then you get first crack at their friends :dthumb:

[Mr Lefty]

:lol: yeah shit I haven't been "looking" since I was 18...

[Mr Lefty]

theres a lot of those around. they still make great plutonic friends though, and then you get first crack at their friends :dthumb:

oh yeah... I consider her one of my closest friends... if not the... considering how I've lost touch with all my old friends...

and yeah... she's search'n for me... :lol: they gotta pass HER test she says...

works for me...

[Nails]

can't say's I know any either?? Ur right, not sure if there are any left! we need to grow some new ones and teach em right:rant:

[Dova80]

theres a lot of those around. they still make great plutonic friends though, and then you get first crack at their friends :dthumb:
I have found their friends are no where near what you expect after the meeting of the good one.


:lol: yeah shit I haven't been "looking" since I was 18...

Yea you and me both, not "looking" but i do certainly take notice if I find something I like. :lol:

can't say's I know any either?? Ur right not sure if there are any left! we need to grow some new onew and teach em right:rant:

That would require most of the people to drink more bleach and I have yet to figure out how to convince them its a good idea.

[Dave]

works for me, hell maybe by the time you get back they'll be able to clone rae rae cheap

[Dova80]

works for me, hell maybe by the time you get back they'll be able to clone rae rae cheap

while rae rae is smoking hot, and seems to be quality , she has tattos if I am not mistaken

[Dave]

while rae rae is smoking hot, and seems to be quality , she has tattos if I am not mistaken

*ahem* last time i checked, ink isint genetic passed. a cloned rae would be a clean slate :dthumb:

[Dova80]

*ahem* last time i checked, ink isint genetic passed. a cloned rae would be a clean slate :dthumb:
ahh good point... Lets make this happen. We can be brother in laws...

[Mr Lefty]

I have found their friends are no where near what you expect after the meeting of the good one.

ehh you gotta give them a fair shake... if you build up the one... your just setting your self up to miss something...

in my experience... women usually keep company with like minded women...
and usually we'll dissmiss their friends before really know'n them because they're not "her" ya know what I'm say'n?



Yea you and me both, not "looking" but i do certainly take notice if I find something I like. :lol:

:lol: yeah exactly

works for me, hell maybe by the time you get back they'll be able to clone rae rae cheap

:lol:

while rae rae is smoking hot, and seems to be quality , she has tattos if I am not mistaken

yeah she's got several

ahh good point... Lets make this happen. We can be brother in laws...
:lol: how would that make you brother in laws?

[Dova80]

ehh you gotta give them a fair shake... if you build up the one... your just setting your self up to miss something...

in my experience... women usually keep company with like minded women...
and usually we'll dissmiss their friends before really know'n them because they're not "her" ya know what I'm say'n?


Yup and I will continue to dismiss them :lol: the problem is I set my sights on something I usually get it but with a person its not just a matter of working for it the other person has to be receptive as well. Which is out of my control leaving me to dismiss anything other than the one person...

Yea I have issues..

[Dave]

i have no idear

[Dova80]

:lol: how would that make you brother in laws?


if she is cloned twice, we each get one they would be sisters, hence we would be brother inlaws. Its science you wouldnt understand :lol: Captain Morgan drew a chart and it made sense

[Dave]

if she is cloned twice, we each get one they would be sisters, hence we would be brother inlaws. Its science you wouldnt understand :lol: Captain Morgan drew a chart and it made sense

cap? has this subject been broached before? :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

Yup and I will continue to dismiss them :lol: the problem is I set my sights on something I usually get it but with a person its not just a matter of working for it the other person has to be receptive as well. Which is out of my control leaving me to dismiss anything other than the one person...

Yea I have issues..

yeah... you just have to give into the fact you can't control what others say, think, or do... one I had a hard time with too...

easiest way for me was to say (enough to where I believe it) if she doesn't want to be with me... it's not worth the time... stress... and agrivation. I'll give up on girls now really quick if they aren't intrested...

and honestly... I'm much happier in that aspect... :2cents:

if she is cloned twice, we each get one they would be sisters, hence we would be brother inlaws. Its science you wouldnt understand :lol: Captain Morgan drew a chart and it made sense

:lol: ahh ok... yeah Captain Morgan can be quite the illistrationist...

[Dova80]

cap? has this subject been broached before? :lol:



Yup, he is a great science teacher.

I have decided I would like to receive a clone of several women Famke Janssen, Kate Beckinsale, and Monica Bellucci. Capin worked this out and he said this would be the best clones for me.

[Mr Lefty]

cap? has this subject been broached before? :lol:

I think he means Capt'n as in the Rum he talked about mix'n with Pepsi in the OP... not as in Capt'n the fine upstanding TWFix member :lol:

[Dova80]

yeah... you just have to give into the fact you can't control what others say, think, or do... one I had a hard time with too...

easiest way for me was to say (enough to where I believe it) if she doesn't want to be with me... it's not worth the time... stress... and agrivation. I'll give up on girls now really quick if they aren't intrested...

and honestly... I'm much happier in that aspect... :2cents:



:lol: ahh ok... yeah Captain Morgan can be quite the illistrationist...

I tend to think thats my problem, I walk away with a drop of a hat..:lol:

I think the same way, if she wants to be there she will be, otherwise she can walk away. I wouldnt say I am happier, but it is very much less stressful

I think he means Capt'n as in the Rum he talked about mix'n with Pepsi in the OP... not as in Capt'n the fine upstanding TWFix member :lol:

correct about 1/4 of a handle down... he is dancing on my brain currently.

[Dave]

Yup, he is a great science teacher.

I have decided I would like to receive a clone of several women Famke Janssen, Kate Beckinsale, and Monica Bellucci. Capin worked this out and he said this would be the best clones for me.

hrm i see you like your women lithe, dark, and badass. :dthumb:

[Dova80]

hrm i see you like your women lithe, dark, and badass. :dthumb:

yes, and do you realize how difficult it is to find these kind of woman in Oklahoma? I need to travel over seas to find women like this...

I think I would give up a kidney to spend a week with Famke...

[Mr Lefty]

I tend to think thats my problem, I walk away with a drop of a hat..:lol:
I think the same way, if she wants to be there she will be, otherwise she can walk away. I wouldnt say I am happier, but it is very much less stressful


but you just said you dissmiss anything but that one person... :idk:


but yeah it'll come with time... things don't always smell like roses... but that doesn't mean they have to smell like shit either. keep yourself busy... less time to sit around and be alone... the less time you'll be "lonely"

at least that's kind of the mind set I've adopted... :lol:

[Dave]

yes, and do you realize how difficult it is to find these kind of woman in Oklahoma? I need to travel over seas to find women like this...

I think I would give up a kidney to spend a week with Famke...

testicle, you only need one and its worth a LOT more.





p.s. send kate my way when you get done with her :drool:

[Dova80]

testicle, you only need one and its worth a LOT more.





p.s. send kate my way when you get done with her :drool:


I would give up a testi for week with all 3 of course one week with each, not all at the same time I want to savor each and every one of them.

[itgirl]

with all the sour attitudes towards women it leads me to wonder exactly what exceptional qualities you men (and i use the term loosely :D) bring to the table? the shortage of quality partners runs both ways.

[Dave]

see if i did that id just blow it on a vyrus and be moderately happy with whatever skankiness it attracted

[Dova80]

but you just said you dissmiss anything but that one person... :idk:


but yeah it'll come with time... things don't always smell like roses... but that doesn't mean they have to smell like shit either. keep yourself busy... less time to sit around and be alone... the less time you'll be "lonely"

at least that's kind of the mind set I've adopted... :lol:

which part are you confused about? I have been drinking so your going to have to ask question my deductive reasoning skills are shrinking as the night continues.

yea I have tried to keep myself busy all that happens is you wind up spending a year keeping yourself busy only to wind up alone again durning the god damn holidays. They are the worst time of year to be alone...

[Dova80]

with all the sour attitudes towards women it leads me to wonder exactly what exceptional qualities you men (and i use the term loosely :D) bring to the table? the shortage of quality partners runs both ways.



I have a 2 inch cock, last till about you touch me, and I smile alot.

[Dave]

with all the sour attitudes towards women it leads me to wonder exactly what exceptional qualities you men (and i use the term loosely :D) bring to the table? the shortage of quality partners runs both ways.

im clever, funny, have my finances in order, own a house and thanks to military immunizations and three years of living in the asshole of the planet im immune to jesus. oh yeah, i have amazing stamina as well :whistle:

[Mr Lefty]

with all the sour attitudes towards women it leads me to wonder exactly what exceptional qualities you men (and i use the term loosely :D) bring to the table? the shortage of quality partners runs both ways.

I wouldn't say sour attitudes... at least not in my case... there are just ones that I'm attracted to and ones I'm not... the ones that I'm attracted to are "quality" ones... but that's not saying the others are horrible... just not what i'm looking for. ya know?

which part are you confused about? I have been drinking so your going to have to ask question my deductive reasoning skills are shrinking as the night continues.

yea I have tried to keep myself busy all that happens is you wind up spending a year keeping yourself busy only to wind up alone again durning the god damn holidays. They are the worst time of year to be alone...

don't worry about it bro :lol: it's all good

[Dova80]

I wouldn't say sour attitudes... at least not in my case... there are just ones that I'm attracted to and ones I'm not... the ones that I'm attracted to are "quality" ones... but that's not saying the others are horrible... just not what i'm looking for. ya know?

they are whores admit it... :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

well yes... some of them... :lol:

[Dave]

at times thats a good thing though

[Dova80]

well yes... some of them... :lol:

Exactly the birds of a feather flock together is a bullshit story told by the good one to sell off the whore birds of the flock.

[Mr Lefty]

:lol: uh... usually they don't need to "sell off" the whore birds... they give it away

[Dova80]

:lol: uh... usually they don't need to "sell off" the whore birds... they give it away

Ok, I was close more like an auction.....



Ok Captin has said it would be an acceptable loss of one testi for one week with Famke...

Ok I just read she went to OU (Oklahoma University) DAMNIT! see another missed opportunity...

[itgirl]

I have a 2 inch cock, last till about you touch me, and I smile alot.

im clever, funny, have my finances in order, own a house and thanks to military immunizations and three years of living in the asshole of the planet im immune to jesus. oh yeah, i have amazing stamina as well :whistle:

well, that's encouraging. :lol: seriously though, this thread makes me glad to be married, if not only for the fact that i am grateful to be out of the dating game. i understand the frustrations. :luck: finding ink-free childless women under age 30. they are an endangered species.

[Dova80]

well, that's encouraging. :lol: seriously though, this thread makes me glad to be married, if not only for the fact that i am grateful to be out of the dating game. i understand the frustrations. :luck: finding ink-free childless women under age 30. they are an endangered species.

I believe they are extinct or have mad cow disease

[Dave]

maybe if you sell both you can convince catherine zeta jones to break that insane prenup she has on michael douglas. still can figure out if shes really smart or if hes just a fuckin moron

[Dova80]

maybe if you sell both you can convince catherine zeta jones to break that insane prenup she has on michael douglas. still can figure out if shes really smart or if hes just a fuckin moron

I am not that big of a fan of her, she is very attractive but not my kind of girl. The three I listed are in my eyes some of the most attractive female figures I can find.

[Dave]

well, that's encouraging. :lol: seriously though, this thread makes me glad to be married, if not only for the fact that i am grateful to be out of the dating game. i understand the frustrations. :luck: finding ink-free childless women under age 30. they are an endangered species.

i actually like ink in controlled doses. makes no sense for myself though since the good lord moulded me in the image of esau

[Dova80]

i actually like ink in controlled doses. makes no sense for myself though since the good lord moulded me in the image of esau

For me, I can appreciate the ink, but I do not want any nor do I want any on my hopeful wife someday.

[Dave]

I am not that big of a fan of her, she is very attractive but not my kind of girl. The three I listed are in my eyes some of the most attractive female figures I can find.

eh shot in the dark guess, i figured she was somewhat analgous to monica

[Dova80]

eh shot in the dark guess, i figured she was somewhat analgous to monica

Monica has something about her I can place my figure on, I think its the lips, but I dont know for sure...

[JoshuaTree]

with all the sour attitudes towards women it leads me to wonder exactly what exceptional qualities you men (and i use the term loosely :D) bring to the table? the shortage of quality partners runs both ways.

Quality partners are rarely the issue. Negotiating mutually agreeable and beneficial terms for 'mutual, long-term cohabitation, pleasure, procreation, and mutual remuneration' are the issues. :idk:

[Dave]

shes over 40, italian and not in any way hairy. thats probably it :lol:

[Dova80]

shes over 40, italian and not in any way hairy. thats probably it :lol:

oh and still looks drop dead gorgeous

[Dave]

that too!

[Dova80]

Ok, so where do you other guy seem to meet decent woman? I have had decent luck at grocery stores, but far to often they say they have boyfriends... I am sure 3/4 of them just say that...

[Dave]

my current one came to a party at my house.

[Mr Lefty]

mine are all random... very random...

[Dova80]

mine are all random... very random...

like sex party random? Key word OOOOORRRRRGGGGGYYYY

whats bad even my friends tell me I am doomed as pickey as I am..lol

[Dave]

heh the one before was actually a forum hookup. id talked to her a bit while i was in iraq then lost touch, saw her on after i got back said hi and things went from there. distance killed that one though. distance and careers

[Dave]

like sex party random? Key word OOOOORRRRRGGGGGYYYY

whats bad even my friends tell me I am doomed as pickey as I am..lol

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4/gregwies/sexyparty.gif

[Dova80]

heh the one before was actually a forum hookup. id talked to her a bit while i was in iraq then lost touch, saw her on after i got back said hi and things went from there. distance killed that one though. distance and careers

distance can certainly kill a relationship thats for sure, I have learned the hard way..

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4/gregwies/sexyparty.gif

my kind of party! half naked women and a baby!

[Porkchop]

:I did find one not too long ago that was quite an ideal catch... only problem... someone else "caught" her before I could.


Story of my life.....

[OneSickPsycho]

I feel ya.

You think it's hard for you? Hell, try being just as picky, if not more... then be me... an arrogant, egotistical, genius, angry, crass, vulgar, blunt, disgusting, curt fat guy who hates everyone and anything because of his superior intellect and amazing sense of humor.

Finding a girl that's physically attractive is easy enough... then she fucks it up by opening her mouth... either with being retarded, a cunt, or acknowledging a fuckton of baggage (kids, psycho ex, irrational love for liberals, etc).

If you get past that, something ruins it for me. A specific habit or something that gets under my skin damn quickly and makes me want to kill her (not in a good way). Like this girl who started as a good friend, blossomed into an amazing sexual relationship, then the first time in a year of knowing her that we eat together... she chews with her mouth open. Instant no-go.

Now if by some stroke of amazing a girl makes it a month... I start looking for things. It's about that point in time I can determine if it has long term potential or not, then I cut out... but first I need to build enough of an position against her. I am just naturally a hyper-critical person so it's pretty easy. My biggest fear is that I'll fool myself into sticking around, wasting time with someone who I know I cannot love... Why? Cause I've done it.

Like Ebbs... I had 'the one' once. Well twice. The first time doesn't count because I didn't realize until AFTERWARDS and it was way too late. Chalk that up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded. The 2nd almost made it. Granted, I don't miss her anymore and I can certainly see why things fell apart... however, had I met her a few years later... blah, blah, blah... Chalk that shit up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded.

Long story short. Welcome to the party pal.

[Dova80]

I feel ya.

You think it's hard for you? Hell, try being just as picky, if not more... then be me... an arrogant, egotistical, genius, angry, crass, vulgar, blunt, disgusting, curt fat guy who hates everyone and anything because of his superior intellect and amazing sense of humor.

Finding a girl that's physically attractive is easy enough... then she fucks it up by opening her mouth... either with being retarded, a cunt, or acknowledging a fuckton of baggage (kids, psycho ex, irrational love for liberals, etc).

If you get past that, something ruins it for me. A specific habit or something that gets under my skin damn quickly and makes me want to kill her (not in a good way). Like this girl who started as a good friend, blossomed into an amazing sexual relationship, then the first time in a year of knowing her that we eat together... she chews with her mouth open. Instant no-go.

Now if by some stroke of amazing a girl makes it a month... I start looking for things. It's about that point in time I can determine if it has long term potential or not, then I cut out... but first I need to build enough of an position against her. I am just naturally a hyper-critical person so it's pretty easy. My biggest fear is that I'll fool myself into sticking around, wasting time with someone who I know I cannot love... Why? Cause I've done it.

Like Ebbs... I had 'the one' once. Well twice. The first time doesn't count because I didn't realize until AFTERWARDS and it was way too late. Chalk that up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded. The 2nd almost made it. Granted, I don't miss her anymore and I can certainly see why things fell apart... however, had I met her a few years later... blah, blah, blah... Chalk that shit up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded.

Long story short. Welcome to the party pal.


we must be leading dual lives...

[Mr Lefty]

Like Ebbs... I had 'the one' once. Well twice. The first time doesn't count because I didn't realize until AFTERWARDS and it was way too late. Chalk that up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded. The 2nd almost made it. Granted, I don't miss her anymore and I can certainly see why things fell apart... however, had I met her a few years later... blah, blah, blah... Chalk that shit up to being young, immature, and fucking retarded.

Long story short. Welcome to the party pal.


well that's not really what happened with me... she left me... she got pregnant... came back... left again... got pregnant again... and married the guy... but is still in love with me... just married the guy because he's the dad of her children... and he's a good guy...

or at least that's the story she gave me...

I don't consider her "the one" but that's of course because I don't belive in there being One person for each of us... :bs:

[OneSickPsycho]

well that's not really what happened with me... she left me... she got pregnant... came back... left again... got pregnant again... and married the guy... but is still in love with me... just married the guy because he's the dad of her children... and he's a good guy...

or at least that's the story she gave me...

I don't consider her "the one" but that's of course because I don't belive in there being One person for each of us... :bs:

My comparison between our situations ended with 'once.'

I don't buy that 'only one' crap either... I just refer to them as 'the one' as in... the one I'm going to spend the rest of my life with... you know, impregnate, shotgun marry, beat all the time, and end up getting shot by in a fit of rage.

[Mr Lefty]

My comparison between our situations ended with 'once.'

I don't buy that 'only one' crap either... I just refer to them as 'the one' as in... the one I'm going to spend the rest of my life with... you know, impregnate, shotgun marry, beat all the time, and end up getting shot by in a fit of rage.

ahh :lol:

and yeah then she was one of "the one"s :lol:

[OneSickPsycho]

I am pretty convinced that I am going to end up with one of two things.

1) Someone like me, who just hasn't found that person.

Hopefully...

2) A hot 20 year old chick who is very mature and a lesbian. A girl who falls in love with me, for me... but still needs to like a box sometimes... and encourages my full-support of her sexuality... and playthings.

[the chi]

Interesting thread...thanks my lovely gents for the very sweet compliments, Ebbs I love you too hunny! :wink:

1) What may I ask is wrong with tattoos?

While it may not be your preference of art, today it is mainstream and is a true form of self expression. And yes, I have 3 to be exact, and hope to have more. I try to keep mine tasteful, but they are to MY taste, and honestly, anyone who has a problem with them, its just that. THEIR problem. If you met me on the street, youd never know I have my ink.

If your looking for a good woman, try looking further than skin deep. :idk: True beauty, quality and goodness isnt on the cheap pretty wrapper.

2) This whole thing about not looking, whether you believe in it or not, well, its usually the best way to go about it. Honestly. When you are LOOKING, you arent SEEING and people have a tendency to assign the attirbutes or lack thereof to the current flames. Intentional or not, it happens. And once you realize that person isnt what you have made them out to be in your head, the "love is gone" so to speak. Literally.

3) Try adjusting your outlook a bit. Tho I dont know you, and it may just be the alcohol talking, well, your attitudes towards women seems to be a tad on the "poor" side. Just reading a few lines into your post I was slightly offended, being a woman, by your overall post was slightly demeaning, almost as if you see us as inferior beings who offend you with our ink, our difference in views from yours and our sometimes already having reproduced.

4) Your BIGGEST problem??

YOUR IN OKLAHOMA!!! :lol: Ok, sorry had to. I was born there, I know what Im not missing, and honestly, choosing from candidates that are most likely all from the same gene pool I can see as unappetizing!! I am related to half the state, so I know. Trust me! :wink:

And OH YEAH, boys you can clone me, but never forget, there can be only ONE of the genuine RaeRae! :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

wtf makes you think I was talk'n about YOU rae? :lol:

[the chi]

Seems all of a sudden my age is starting to tarnish my though of it being just a number. Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30, now the pickings of women has be reevaluating where I stand. It seems women are just crazy anymore, or perhaps I am but I am guessing the former. The lack of moral fiber in people in general is atrocious, the lack of general courtesy is appalling, and finding a girl without children and tattoos seems to be getting damn near impossible. This is very detrimental to my idea of having a family.

I am curious does anyone else have this problem? Perhaps my standards are to high for my income?

Had to go back and look at your post again, knew I missed a few things!

Where are you looking? You wont find alot of moral fiber, courtesy and sanity in a local dive bar or night club! Try different venues if you insist on looking...and income has nothing to do with it. The poorest man in the world may also be the richest, money ISNT everything.

...try looking for a woman that thinks more like a man. Go ahead, laugh. Ask Ebbs about it. :lol: Think code of honor, pride, that kind of thing. I know it sounds odd, but well, it kinda works. Like the other boys mentioned, find a good woman, even if she's attached, and honestly most of her friends will be the same. If she's got any female friends.

[Adeptus_Minor]

...try looking for a woman that thinks more like a man. Go ahead, laugh.


Just try to avoid the ones that look more like a man. :whistle:
They generally aren't buying what you're selling.

[t-homo]

I think I love Rae...

[Adeptus_Minor]

I think I love Rae...

Rightly so.

[Mr Lefty]

Had to go back and look at your post again, knew I missed a few things!

Where are you looking? You wont find alot of moral fiber, courtesy and sanity in a local dive bar or night club! Try different venues if you insist on looking...and income has nothing to do with it. The poorest man in the world may also be the richest, money ISNT everything.

...try looking for a woman that thinks more like a man. Go ahead, laugh. Ask Ebbs about it. :lol: Think code of honor, pride, that kind of thing. I know it sounds odd, but well, it kinda works. Like the other boys mentioned, find a good woman, even if she's attached, and honestly most of her friends will be the same. If she's got any female friends


yeah... ask me

[Dave]

And OH YEAH, boys you can clone me, but never forget, there can be only ONE of the genuine RaeRae! :lol:

we'll be expecting that dna sample any day then :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

we'll be expecting that dna sample any day then :lol:

:lol:

[the chi]

wtf makes you think I was talk'n about YOU rae? :lol:

:lol: Nice try, need I quote you?

[Dave]

:lol: Nice try, need I quote you?

oh you do you do :whistle:

[the chi]

Just try to avoid the ones that look more like a man. :whistle:
They generally aren't buying what you're selling.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that, good catch!!! :lol:

Your awfully sweet Trock, no worries angel, I know the score! :wink:

we'll be expecting that dna sample any day then :lol:

What, you mean Ebbs didnt send it your way already? After all that scavenging in my underwear drawer? :rofl:

[Mr Lefty]

:lol: Nice try, need I quote you?

oh please cause you mods don't ever edit posts...

and really hard to chage quotes too... :whistle:

I am a midget

[the chi]

I like midgets, porn star midgets, that double as strippers

Your such an ass. But thats why I like you huh?

In any case, new note for woman search, remember Ebbs likes midgets...perferably porn star/stripper ones with heavy makeup...

[Dave]

What, you mean Ebbs didnt send it your way already? After all that scavenging in my underwear drawer? :rofl:

no dear, i havent recieved anything from your underwear drawer. :pa: i do still owe you that drink though so i wont rule anything out :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

Your such an ass. But thats why I like you huh?

In any case, new note for woman search, remember Ebbs likes midgets...perferably porn star/stripper ones with heavy makeup...

That I do... especially ones that look like Tom Cruise

[Quick281]

Interesting thread. I have to say that in many ways I concur with the thoughts on both sides of the table.

I fall under the category of dated high school sweetheart into college years and then as things got blurry she decided to go off and try other things which I figured was fair since I was her only boyfriend to date. Then she started sleeping with all of my friends and random guys, so I just stopped talking to her and all of those "friends".

2 years later I am a much happier and independent person with few friends but very good ones. Haven't dated anyone else and in fact I don't even seem to want to go out and meet people. That is what bothers me the most. Doesn't help that I am shy as shit too.

[Quick281]

Your such an ass. But thats why I like you huh?

In any case, new note for woman search, remember Ebbs likes midgets...perferably porn star/stripper ones with heavy makeup...


First trip I ever took to a strip club, I got to see midget sisters, Pixxy and trixxy. They were touring the east coast if I remember correctly. Angry looking little things too.

[Mr Lefty]

What, you mean Ebbs didnt send it your way already? After all that scavenging in my underwear drawer? :rofl:

nope... those were for me to wear

[Homeslice]

im turning 27 at the end of the month. im so excited to know its not getting any better :lol:

Bitch please. Someone your age can hit anything. High school girls, college girls, right on up to MILF's who just want some young stud to bang. It isn't until you pass 35 that your options start decreasing.

[Dave]

Bitch please. Someone your age can hit anything. High school girls, college girls, right on up to MILF's who just want some young stud to bang. It isn't until you pass 35 that your options start decreasing.

lmao i was trying to help him feel better.

[Papa_Complex]

Geez people, get over the ticking clock. I'm 45 and never married. Got close 20 years ago but fortunately she realized that she was insane, before I did, and walked out on me. Every now and then I run into some girl who was a hottie back in high school or college, who tells me that she had "the biggest crush" on me but for some reason wouldn't give me the time of day back then, and I realize how goddamn lucky I was she didn't.

Too many people these days jump on the "starter marriage" and then split, screwing themselves up for the rest of their lives, both emotionally and financially. Give it a little time, find the right person, and WORK ON IT. Don't walk away when you hit the first snag and don't find out the hard way that the other person snores like a chainsaw, and eats with their toes if you can't take that.

At this point all that I'm seeing available around me are women with tats and pierced navels, who say that they are looking for a cross between Brad Pitt and John the Baptist, but who seem to constantly end up with a cross between Ben Affleck and Attila the Hun with commitment issues. The single guys I know are all looking for a stripper who went to Le Cordon Bleu, and likes to cook all day while wearing nothing but ankle socks. You can only live in a beer commercial, in a beer commercial.

Forget TV and live in the world we have.

[Dova80]

Interesting thread...thanks my lovely gents for the very sweet compliments, Ebbs I love you too hunny! :wink:

1) What may I ask is wrong with tattoos?

While it may not be your preference of art, today it is mainstream and is a true form of self expression. And yes, I have 3 to be exact, and hope to have more. I try to keep mine tasteful, but they are to MY taste, and honestly, anyone who has a problem with them, its just that. THEIR problem. If you met me on the street, youd never know I have my ink.

If your looking for a good woman, try looking further than skin deep. :idk: True beauty, quality and goodness isnt on the cheap pretty wrapper.

I agree, but I just have a personal preference of women without tattoos. Like I have said I can appreciate the art they are, but long term its not something I want to see. To me having tattos its similar to having a Ferrari, or lamborghini, or whatever exotic car that is appealing to the eyes and then throwing some loud gaudy paint on it which ruins the subtle beauty of the car. Women are beautiful (for the most part) and to me ink takes away from the original beauty. Then there is 30 years down the road whats it going to look like..






2) This whole thing about not looking, whether you believe in it or not, well, its usually the best way to go about it. Honestly. When you are LOOKING, you arent SEEING and people have a tendency to assign the attirbutes or lack thereof to the current flames. Intentional or not, it happens. And once you realize that person isnt what you have made them out to be in your head, the "love is gone" so to speak. Literally.


I seem to have trouble with finding women that meet my initial requirements of no ink, or babies... much less further inspection :lol: I dont really look, but if something passes by I do take notice.


3) Try adjusting your outlook a bit. Tho I dont know you, and it may just be the alcohol talking, well, your attitudes towards women seems to be a tad on the "poor" side. Just reading a few lines into your post I was slightly offended, being a woman, by your overall post was slightly demeaning, almost as if you see us as inferior beings who offend you with our ink, our difference in views from yours and our sometimes already having reproduced.

Ink is just a personal thing, I appreciate it for what it is, but I do not want it on my wife. As far as ready made families, I just do not want to have a step father and a step family involved in raising a child.



4) Your BIGGEST problem??

YOUR IN OKLAHOMA!!! :lol: Ok, sorry had to. I was born there, I know what Im not missing, and honestly, choosing from candidates that are most likely all from the same gene pool I can see as unappetizing!! I am related to half the state, so I know. Trust me! :wink:

And OH YEAH, boys you can clone me, but never forget, there can be only ONE of the genuine RaeRae! :lol:

yes I agree living in Oklahoma does not help..

Had to go back and look at your post again, knew I missed a few things!

Where are you looking? You wont find alot of moral fiber, courtesy and sanity in a local dive bar or night club! Try different venues if you insist on looking...and income has nothing to do with it. The poorest man in the world may also be the richest, money ISNT everything.

...try looking for a woman that thinks more like a man. Go ahead, laugh. Ask Ebbs about it. :lol: Think code of honor, pride, that kind of thing. I know it sounds odd, but well, it kinda works. Like the other boys mentioned, find a good woman, even if she's attached, and honestly most of her friends will be the same. If she's got any female friends.

I am not really looking but if a woman strikes me as attractive I will go talk to her no matter where we are at. But I also know I will not pick up any decent long term at a bar...

Lately I have been keeping my eyes peeled when I go shopping for food. I do agree with you about thinking like a man, it does help.. but its difficult to find them.

[Mr Lefty]

But you've gotta look at your no ink "policy" and seriously make a decision... you meet someone perfect for you but has a tattoo... is it worth passing that up? and as it's one of your first checks... you wouldn't even know what your missing...


My ex Lei, had several tattoo's when we met... one on her foot, one on her lower pelvis, and the tramp stamp every girl who turned 18 in the 90's has... it was ok with me but I didn't want her to get anymore as, like you, I thought it'd ruin her gorgeous body. she got 3 more basicly covering up her back and one down her arm. horrible in my opinion... but that doesn't change who she was or the fact that I loved her.

the Ink thing is skin deep and I understand you have a preconcieved idea of what your family foto would look like... and your wife doesn't have tats...

but like I said before... you can't control what others do, say or want...

[Mr Lefty]

Geez people, get over the ticking clock. I'm 45 and never married. Got close 20 years ago but fortunately she realized that she was insane, before I did, and walked out on me. Every now and then I run into some girl who was a hottie back in high school or college, who tells me that she had "the biggest crush" on me but for some reason wouldn't give me the time of day back then, and I realize how goddamn lucky I was she didn't.

Too many people these days jump on the "starter marriage" and then split, screwing themselves up for the rest of their lives, both emotionally and financially. Give it a little time, find the right person, and WORK ON IT. Don't walk away when you hit the first snag and don't find out the hard way that the other person snores like a chainsaw, and eats with their toes if you can't take that.

At this point all that I'm seeing available around me are women with tats and pierced navels, who say that they are looking for a cross between Brad Pitt and John the Baptist, but who seem to constantly end up with a cross between Ben Affleck and Attila the Hun with commitment issues. The single guys I know are all looking for a stripper who went to Le Cordon Bleu, and likes to cook all day while wearing nothing but ankle socks. You can only live in a beer commercial, in a beer commercial.

Forget TV and live in the world we have.

honestly... THAT is my problem. I don't date to just date. there has to be some sort of possibility of a long term relationship.

I will get married once. PERIOD. I hate divorces... I think they happen WAY to often for a variety of reasons... but usually because people jump in to them to early... or quit. mostly the latter IMO... not everyone who married in the 30's or 40's was right for each other... nor did they go with out think'n they got into something they weren't ready for... but they made a commitment and stuck to it. now... they quit. and on one hand I can understand, if you realize 5 years down the road, damn this person has changed or really isn't who I thought they were after try'n to make it work. but that's all the more reason to take your time before make'n that jump.

now I'm not condemning anyone who's had a divorce... I could care less what you or anyone has done in their personal lives... that's just how I choose to live my life... :idk:

[Rider]

I'm 38, and I see women all the time that I'd like to get with. The only problem I'm married and usually they are too so that kills it right there. The older I get, the more I know exactly what I want in a woman and can usually spot it pretty quick.

[G-Rex]

Dova, I've been exactly where you are, so maybe I can impart some wisdom your way.

Having critera for someone you consider dating material is fine. You need that. We're all picky in our own right. For a long time, I didn't go out with someone because she a) smoked, b) had kids, c) whatever else was on my list. I was pretty particular about these things for a long time. My best friend pointed out to me exactly what Ebbs did to you in this thread. You don't know what you might be missing because you're not even giving them a chance. Basically, what he told me was "You're not necessarily going to marry them. Go out with them." My argument was the same as Ebbs. I didn't want to date unless I could see a possibility for a long term relationship.

Every year, I asked myself "What's the problem?", "Why am I the only one who can't find a girl to love that loves me back?", "Am I really that bad a person?"

Thanks to a few reasons, I realized that some of my criteria was a bit silly for *me*. What did the trick? I'm not sure. I think there were a few factors involved, not the least of which was age. I was definitely where you are when I was in my late 20s/early 30s.

Yet, at 36, almost 37, here I stand engaged to a wonderful woman. If you had asked me at this time last year if I would have guessed I'd be here, I would have laughed and said no. At even 30, I wasn't really ready for kids, and I darned sure didn't want to date a woman that had kids. Again, here I am with Carolina. She has two adorable girls. I love those girls as if they were my own. Besides, they give you those moments that you just can't do anything but get all sappy about and say *awwww*. Last week when I was in Austin, we were sound asleep. I woke up in the middle of night and Alee, the almost 3 yr old, had a bad dream or something, woke up, and came into the bedroom. I woke up with her curled up beside me about half asleep. I can't begin to explain what an amazing moment that was. I've been around the girls for 7+ months now. As Carolina says sarcastically, *It's a good thing they don't like you.* :lol:

Now, for the most important part of what I'm going to say. Take every relationship, every friendship, very importantly. Get what you can out of those, as they will play a huge role in the person you become, and the person you let into your life in the future.

[Mr Lefty]

Dova, I've been exactly where you are, so maybe I can impart some wisdom your way.

Having critera for someone you consider dating material is fine. You need that. We're all picky in our own right. For a long time, I didn't go out with someone because she a) smoked, b) had kids, c) whatever else was on my list. I was pretty particular about these things for a long time. My best friend pointed out to me exactly what Ebbs did to you in this thread. You don't know what you might be missing because you're not even giving them a chance. Basically, what he told me was "You're not necessarily going to marry them. Go out with them." My argument was the same as Ebbs. I didn't want to date unless I could see a possibility for a long term relationship.

Every year, I asked myself "What's the problem?", "Why am I the only one who can't find a girl to love that loves me back?", "Am I really that bad a person?"

Thanks to a few reasons, I realized that some of my criteria was a bit silly for *me*. What did the trick? I'm not sure. I think there were a few factors involved, not the least of which was age. I was definitely where you are when I was in my late 20s/early 30s.

Yet, at 36, almost 37, here I stand engaged to a wonderful woman. If you had asked me at this time last year if I would have guessed I'd be here, I would have laughed and said no. At even 30, I wasn't really ready for kids, and I darned sure didn't want to date a woman that had kids. Again, here I am with Carolina. She has two adorable girls. I love those girls as if they were my own. Besides, they give you those moments that you just can't do anything but get all sappy about and say *awwww*. Last week when I was in Austin, we were sound asleep. I woke up in the middle of night and Alee, the almost 3 yr old, had a bad dream or something, woke up, and came into the bedroom. I woke up with her curled up beside me about half asleep. I can't begin to explain what an amazing moment that was. I've been around the girls for 7+ months now. As Carolina says sarcastically, *It's a good thing they don't like you.* :lol:

Now, for the most important part of what I'm going to say. Take every relationship, every friendship, very importantly. Get what you can out of those, as they will play a huge role in the person you become, and the person you let into your life in the future.


I thought someone said it was just cause you wanted to ride the 1098 :idk:


:lol:

[G-Rex]

I thought someone said it was just cause you wanted to ride the 1098 :idk:


:lol:

I call that a perk. :drool: :rockwoot:

[Mr Lefty]

:lol: fair enough

[CrazyKell]

Wow! Very rarely do I read an entire thread (at least one that's 10 pages :whistle:) but I read this one.

Being single isn't easy. I'm not in your same boat but it's similar.

I think that I'm solid and I think that I deserve someone who's solid as well. Being single in my early 30's isn't easy. I too would prefer someone who didn't have kids or someone who hadn't been divorced already. :shrug:

I've got other picky little things that I don't like but I'm more flexible about (smoking, etc.).

I think I'm the female version of a lot of you males out there.

Unfortunately for me a lot of guys get intimidated. But the thing is....I don't want a guy who's intimidated by a strong woman. :scared:

I want someone who loves me for who I am and not only wants but appreciates a strong woman. I'm smart and not afraid to admit it (but not egotistical about it either. ;)). I can hold my own, have my own bike, like to drive my car, etc. A lot of guys don't like that. But I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life than have to change fundamentally who I am just to fit someone else's mode of the perfect woman.

Someone will be lucky to have me. And I deserve someone who will appreciate that. I'll know it if/when he comes along. :shrug:

[Papa_Complex]

I thought someone said it was just cause you wanted to ride the 1098 :idk:


:lol:

Guy had to cover 49 States and 3 or four Provinces to find her, so it better be for more than the bike :lol:

[G-Rex]

Guy had to cover 49 States and 3 or four Provinces to find her, so it better be for more than the bike :lol:

:lol:

46 states and 6 provinces thank you very much. I'll finish the rest of that list next year. :rockwoot:

[the chi]

So, Kell, have you met Dova??!!

:lol: Seriously boys, who wouldnt want a girl like her?? Methinks she's one of those rare breeds, a woman who thinks like a man!! Kell, this is a good thing btw...compliments to you. Theres nothing wrong with being strong and well, you just need a guy whos strong enough, and mature enough to handle your nature and love it!! They are hard to find, and sometimes a pain in the rear, but worth it!

G-seriously, that is the sweetest, awesomest post ever. Archren is lucky to have a guy like you! Congrats!

[CrazyKell]

So, Kell, have you met Dova??!!

I don't fit his requirements. :whistle:

:lol: Seriously boys, who wouldnt want a girl like her?? Methinks she's one of those rare breeds, a woman who thinks like a man!! Kell, this is a good thing btw...compliments to you. Theres nothing wrong with being strong and well, you just need a guy whos strong enough, and mature enough to handle your nature and love it!!

Thank you! :wink: :beers:

[smileyman]

Never judge a heart by the ink...That is all I have after 10 pages.

[Papa_Complex]

:lol:

46 states and 6 provinces thank you very much. I'll finish the rest of that list next year. :rockwoot:

At least you gave Canadian girls a fair shake. I knew a Canadian girl who only dated American guys. Not that you guys are any better than us. It just took her 5 times as long to realize it when she only saw them once a month :lol:

[G-Rex]

So, Kell, have you met Dova??!!

......

G-seriously, that is the sweetest, awesomest post ever. Archren is lucky to have a guy like you! Congrats!

I met Kel a couple of years ago, along with Papa_Complex. Hell, she let me crash at her house for the night on my trip. Thanks again Kell! :)

She's definitely going to make somebody a lucky boy one of these days!

And Chi, thanks for the congrats! I know I'm pretty lucky too!

[CrazyKell]

I met Kel a couple of years ago, along with Papa_Complex. Hell, she let me crash at her house for the night on my trip. Thanks again Kell! :)

She's definitely going to make somebody a lucky boy one of these days!

Awww shucks! :ladysman: :cheers:

Maybe a 636 just isn't enough of a draw for the boys. :idk: Or maybe it's the fact that I won't let them ride it. :whistle:

[pauldun170]

Hey...what's going on in this thread? I didn't read much of it but I heard some 28 year old is going through that annoying "stage" when the person is stilll single and everyone else is married so they get all whiney and bitchy.

Geez, wait till they find out at 30-32, the divorce crowd pops up and and the market picks up big time.

[CrazyKell]

Hey...what's going on in this thread? I didn't read much of it but I heard some 28 year old is going through that annoying "stage" when the person is stilll single and everyone else is married so they get all whiney and bitchy.

Geez, wait till they find out at 30-32, the divorce crowd pops up and and the market picks up big time.

Well I'd take you (divorce, kids and all) if you keep the car. :wink:

[Adeptus_Minor]

Awww shucks! :ladysman: :cheers:

Maybe a 636 just isn't enough of a draw for the boys. :idk: Or maybe it's the fact that I won't let them ride it. :whistle:

It's not the 636 they should be wanting to ride. :whistle:

[pauldun170]

Well I'd take you (divorce, kids and all) if you keep the car. :wink:


Holy crap you made me blush.

[Adeptus_Minor]

Guy had to cover 49 States and 3 or four Provinces to find her, so it better be for more than the bike :lol:

Tracy's correction of the number of states and provinces aside, you have to laugh at the fact that he found her in the very place we've been trying to get his dumb Okie ass to move to for years. :zowned:

[Tmall]

I didn't read it all. but, it boils down to...

The good women are with the good men. And vice versa, if you can't find what you're looking for it's not because it's not out there. It's just not wanting to be found. :idk:

[Porkchop]

Awww shucks! :ladysman: :cheers:

Maybe a 636 just isn't enough of a draw for the boys. :idk: Or maybe it's the fact that I won't let them ride it. :whistle:

Ahhhh... gotta love some 636.... :drool:

[Avatard]

Seems all of a sudden my age is starting to tarnish my though of it being just a number. Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30, now the pickings of women has be reevaluating where I stand. It seems women are just crazy anymore, or perhaps I am but I am guessing the former. The lack of moral fiber in people in general is atrocious, the lack of general courtesy is appalling, and finding a girl without children and tattoos seems to be getting damn near impossible. This is very detrimental to my idea of having a family.

I am curious does anyone else have this problem? Perhaps my standards are to high for my income?


its time for another rum and pepsi...

1) Women ARE crazy. Men are crazy too, just more rational most of the time.

2) People get more crazy and set in their ways as they age.

3) Find someone who's brand of crazy fits with yours, it's the best you can hope for.

4) Do it soon, the quest gets no easier as they get crazier with time.

[Archren]

So, Kell, have you met Dova??!!

:lol: Seriously boys, who wouldnt want a girl like her?? Methinks she's one of those rare breeds, a woman who thinks like a man!! Kell, this is a good thing btw...compliments to you. Theres nothing wrong with being strong and well, you just need a guy whos strong enough, and mature enough to handle your nature and love it!! They are hard to find, and sometimes a pain in the rear, but worth it!

G-seriously, that is the sweetest, awesomest post ever. Archren is lucky to have a guy like you! Congrats!

I am pretty stinking lucky. :D

[Papa_Complex]

When I hear men complain that they can't find the right woman, that they are too picky, etc, what I find it safe to assume is that those "right women" are in fact just not attracted to them. Good girls are becoming increasingly rare finds, but they are out there. I'm as demanding of my mates as I can imagine possible, and I'm now married to a woman who generally meets all of the criteria I originally thought I wanted.

All women are attracted to these simple attributes of men. Thus, if you possess some or all of them, you're more likely to have your pick when the higher quality ladies present themselves.

- Be good looking. Women aren't as visual as we are, but they will still often overlook flaws in your character if you're handsome and/or in shape.

- Have money. Women will often overlook flaws in your character, and your lack of looks and muscles, if you have extra income you can spend on them.

- Be confident. A woman will walk away from a hot, shy guy with no game for an average looking guy with good game any day of the week. Women are ten times as competitive as we are and will scratch each others eyes out to win over someone who appears not to like them (or isn't intimidated by them).

- Be a badass. Chicks like tough guys. Men who act like fucking men. It's a security thing. Women, even the very independent ones who don't want to admit it, like feeling safe and taken care of. Every girl I've ever been with has told me that I made her feel safe, even though none of them ever saw me fight. You either have that air of taking care of business or you don't. There is such a thing as over-assertiveness, however, at which point you cease to be a tough guy and instead become a douchebag.

- Be as asshole. An occasional act of kindness or sensitivity usually don't cause any harm, but watch yourself. A woman's devotion to you is relative to how hard she has to work to keep you. Smother her with lovey-dovey bullshit and she'll be riding your best friend as fast as you can stick an "I love you" Post-It note to her steering wheel. Keep her guessing and other men, even those better suited to her than you are, will be all but invisible to her. Just don't overdo it, some chicks are smarter than others.

The suggestions above are most effective, of course, when they come naturally to you. If you fake it, the higher quality women you seek might see through your game.

I spent a lot of time trying to be nicer than I am, thinking that's what the fairer sex was after, and for my efforts I got stepped on and beat down. When I instead started acting the way I felt, and generally just doing as I pleased... what I wanted came to me.

The Triple has spoken.

So remind me, just how old are you again?

[R6Chick]

Dova, I've been exactly where you are, so maybe I can impart some wisdom your way.

Having critera for someone you consider dating material is fine. You need that. We're all picky in our own right. For a long time, I didn't go out with someone because she a) smoked, b) had kids, c) whatever else was on my list. I was pretty particular about these things for a long time. My best friend pointed out to me exactly what Ebbs did to you in this thread. You don't know what you might be missing because you're not even giving them a chance. Basically, what he told me was "You're not necessarily going to marry them. Go out with them." My argument was the same as Ebbs. I didn't want to date unless I could see a possibility for a long term relationship.

Every year, I asked myself "What's the problem?", "Why am I the only one who can't find a girl to love that loves me back?", "Am I really that bad a person?"

Thanks to a few reasons, I realized that some of my criteria was a bit silly for *me*. What did the trick? I'm not sure. I think there were a few factors involved, not the least of which was age. I was definitely where you are when I was in my late 20s/early 30s.

Yet, at 36, almost 37, here I stand engaged to a wonderful woman. If you had asked me at this time last year if I would have guessed I'd be here, I would have laughed and said no. At even 30, I wasn't really ready for kids, and I darned sure didn't want to date a woman that had kids. Again, here I am with Carolina. She has two adorable girls. I love those girls as if they were my own. Besides, they give you those moments that you just can't do anything but get all sappy about and say *awwww*. Last week when I was in Austin, we were sound asleep. I woke up in the middle of night and Alee, the almost 3 yr old, had a bad dream or something, woke up, and came into the bedroom. I woke up with her curled up beside me about half asleep. I can't begin to explain what an amazing moment that was. I've been around the girls for 7+ months now. As Carolina says sarcastically, *It's a good thing they don't like you.* :lol:

Now, for the most important part of what I'm going to say. Take every relationship, every friendship, very importantly. Get what you can out of those, as they will play a huge role in the person you become, and the person you let into your life in the future.

Even I know how hard you looked for her! I remember a long time ago, our weekend venting of the poor quality of men/women we were meeting in the single world from our respective locations.

You definately got lucky! I'm very happy for you and wish you both all the best.

For me, I gave a few guys the opportunity that I typically wouldn't have given them based on first impressions, but after one or two dates they just were too below my standards.

I gave one guy a chance who was younger than me. I looked at things as though you only live once and should enjoy it as much as possible. Things developed in a surprising, but wonderful way, and we're still happy and together today.

It's just ironic that best relationship of my life started out as something I assumed would never go anywhere. We currently live together a year and a half later.

[CrazyKell]

The Triple has spoken.

Twice. :whistle:

[Homeslice]

The "be an asshole" works until, say, age 28. After then, most quality women have decided they don't need to put up with that anymore.

[Papa_Complex]

Twice. :whistle:

Likes the sound of his voice. I STILL want to have him remind me how old he is. His 'advice' sounds remarkably like my game plan when I was 18-20. It works too (on girls who are 18-20).

[CrazyKell]

The "be an asshole" works until, say, age 28. After then, most quality women don't bother putting up with that anymore.

Likes the sound of his voice. I STILL want to have him remind me how old he is. His 'advice' sounds remarkably like my game plan when I was 18-20. It works too (on girls who are 18-20).

Exactly! I don't know when exactly I stopped putting up with that shit but I don't. :shrug: I don't want to date an asshole. If he's an asshole we don't date. I don't lose sleep over it....I just walk away. :idk:

[Homeslice]

I know what you meant. I still contend that after a certain age, most women don't have the time or mental energy to waste on someone who blows them off or treats them like ass. It's also because in most cases their self-esteem has increased compared to their younger years.

[CrazyKell]

The keys here are subtlety and timing.



An illusion, don't buy it.

:twf: You killed it bruv!

[the chi]

I know what you meant. I still contend that after a certain age, most women don't have the time or mental energy to waste on someone who blows them off or treats them like ass. It's also because in most cases their self-esteem has increased compared to their younger years.

DING DING!! We have a winner. Most women, by the time they reach a certain age have ascertained WHO they are, WHAT they want, and have established their own brand of crazy that meets their needs and eventually will meet a man (if they so choose) who will love that about her. They dont have time for silly games or the energy and patience!


An illusion, don't buy it.

While this holds true for some women, they tend to be the immature and unseasoned, naive, and/or game players themselves.

[the chi]

Further, while I hate to agree, since I am one of those independent women that can take care of herself, there is NOTHING more attractive than a man who has his act together. He knows who he is, what he wants, is already settled and comfortable with himself and his life. And is able to/has room/ready to care for another person. While we may not like it, a womans natural instinct is to look for a male that can take care of her. :idk:

[R6Chick]

Further, while I hate to agree, since I am one of those independent women that can take care of herself, there is NOTHING more attractive than a man who has his act together. He knows who he is, what he wants, is already settled and comfortable with himself and his life. And is able to/has room/ready to care for another person. While we may not like it, a womans natural instinct is to look for a male that can take care of her. :idk:

That's true, we don't want to be another mommy for a grown man.

[the chi]

I use the term "game" very loosely. I do not consider myself a player by any means. My suggestions come naturally to people who are selfish, and in most respects, I am a selfish person.

:lol: Honesty is another refreshing quality!

[Papa_Complex]

That's true, we don't want to be another mommy for a grown man.

Well there's your mistake, right there. We men only grow PHYSICALLY.

[Amorok]

Wow, there's a lot of knowledge in this thread. Some of it's even true.

Give up on finding a girl who isn't nuts. Just find one you can stand. That or get a dog who likes peanut butter.

[Amorok]

Nuts and foods made with nuts are unsafe for dogs to eat.

Use warm beef gravy.

Thanks for the tip. My hypotheticly possibly future divorced penis thanks you.

[the chi]

*sigh*

Another one under my spell.

:rofl: You just wish sweet cheeks! :wink:

[MILK]

I do not consider myself a player by any means. .

Well I hope not! :lol:

I agree about women changing as they age and not putting up with stupidness from men. Self esteem does increase for many women too.

[Dova80]

I don't fit his requirements. :whistle:



Thank you! :wink: :beers:


That and you never sent me the PIE MAN! BOOOO! :)


So, Kell, have you met Dova??!!

:lol: Seriously boys, who wouldnt want a girl like her?? Methinks she's one of those rare breeds, a woman who thinks like a man!! Kell, this is a good thing btw...compliments to you. Theres nothing wrong with being strong and well, you just need a guy whos strong enough, and mature enough to handle your nature and love it!! They are hard to find, and sometimes a pain in the rear, but worth it!

G-seriously, that is the sweetest, awesomest post ever. Archren is lucky to have a guy like you! Congrats!

Nope never met her, have exchanged a few messages, but she has ink. Kell is a magnificent person, I will admit but unfortunately she has two strikes, 1) ink, 2) she is not even on the same effin continent :lol:

[Dova80]

Oh and I will not be an asshole, I am not an asshole nor do I want to be. If I have the problem of being alone forever for being myself so be it. But my basic person will not change just to find a woman... Long term that would never work.

Honesty I have... unfortuantly my timing of honesty never seems to be good..:lol:

[Phenix_Rider]

I can definitely sympathize with the original post. Seems like the selection in my area is extremely slim to nil. I have a couple female friends from work, but even their friends and sisters are married. So that sucks. One chick at work would be fun, but she's divorced and her new boy toy has a kid :panic: Not going there.

Not like my criteria are very difficult- female, generally healthy, non-smoker. Oh yeah, and doesn't get scared and wimp out! Girl's got to be able to handle some risk and adversity.

My brother and his long-term girlfriend were up over the holidays. Girl was terrified the entire time she was on the slope (snowboarding). She'd get scared, drop her edge and fall because she froze up. Dicked up getting off the lift, and bashed her tailbone once and quit- walked all the way down. No way I could deal with that.

There are things I don't want to deal with, but could work on- I hate it when people drink till they get sick when they should know better. I usually DD, so I'd love to have somebody I can TRUST to drive my ass if I drink for a change.

Wow! Very rarely do I read an entire thread (at least one that's 10 pages :whistle:) but I read this one.

Being single isn't easy. I'm not in your same boat but it's similar.

I think that I'm solid and I think that I deserve someone who's solid as well. Being single in my early 30's isn't easy. I too would prefer someone who didn't have kids or someone who hadn't been divorced already. :shrug:

I've got other picky little things that I don't like but I'm more flexible about (smoking, etc.).

I think I'm the female version of a lot of you males out there.

Unfortunately for me a lot of guys get intimidated. But the thing is....I don't want a guy who's intimidated by a strong woman. :scared:

I want someone who loves me for who I am and not only wants but appreciates a strong woman. I'm smart and not afraid to admit it (but not egotistical about it either. ;)). I can hold my own, have my own bike, like to drive my car, etc. A lot of guys don't like that. But I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life than have to change fundamentally who I am just to fit someone else's mode of the perfect woman.

Someone will be lucky to have me. And I deserve someone who will appreciate that. I'll know it if/when he comes along. :shrug:
I need to make a road trip to Canada! Our bikes would look good in the garage together :wink:



Um yea, I think we may have pin pointed the problem I dont like most people... and thus dont want to be around them.
:lol: Sounds familiar... like me :whistle:
So remind me, just how old are you again?
Twice. :whistle:

:idk: How do you quote a post before it's posted?

[Dova80]

I can definitely sympathize with the original post. Seems like the selection in my area is extremely slim to nil. I have a couple female friends from work, but even their friends and sisters are married. So that sucks. One chick at work would be fun, but she's divorced and her new boy toy has a kid :panic: Not going there.

Not like my criteria are very difficult- female, generally healthy, non-smoker. Oh yeah, and doesn't get scared and wimp out! Girl's got to be able to handle some risk and adversity.

My brother and his long-term girlfriend were up over the holidays. Girl was terrified the entire time she was on the slope (snowboarding). She'd get scared, drop her edge and fall because she froze up. Dicked up getting off the lift, and bashed her tailbone once and quit- walked all the way down. No way I could deal with that.

There are things I don't want to deal with, but could work on- I hate it when people drink till they get sick when they should know better. I usually DD, so I'd love to have somebody I can TRUST to drive my ass if I drink for a change.


I need to make a road trip to Canada! Our bikes would look good in the garage together :wink:



:lol: Sounds familiar... like me :whistle:



:idk: How do you quote a post before it's posted?



I wondered about the posting thing as well?

[Cutty72]

I use the term "game" very loosely. I do not consider myself a player by any means. My suggestions come naturally to people who are selfish, and in most respects, I am a selfish person.

I agree.

I know what I want (more or less) in life, and have figured out some of what I have to do to get there.
I don't need a playboy model (tho it would be nice)
I don't need a milionare (again, helpful but not necessary)
I need someone that will let me do what I want to do, and understand (somewhat) where I am coming from.
I understand that women have ideas/plans/etc too, and I am all for helping achieve those goals, provided they are on a similar path as my own.

If a woman comes along and fits into those plans and can help me achieve them, good. If she will be a hinderance to those plans, she's gone.

So far, comonboys seems to be a very good addition to helping me achieve my plans. :D

[Papa_Complex]

I wondered about the posting thing as well?

Talent. It's a Canadian thing.

[CrazyKell]

That and you never sent me the PIE MAN! BOOOO! :)

Nope never met her, have exchanged a few messages, but she has ink. Kell is a magnificent person, I will admit but unfortunately she has two strikes, 1) ink, 2) she is not even on the same effin continent :lol:

The Pie Man is in international hiding. I don't know where he's gone but he sure as hell hasn't shown his face to me in a long time! :td:

Oh and FYI....I'm back on the same continent (back in Canada now)....but alas I do have ink. Sigh!

[Dova80]

The Pie Man is in international hiding. I don't know where he's gone but he sure as hell hasn't shown his face to me in a long time! :td

Oh and FYI....I'm back on the same continent (back in Canada now)....but alas I do have ink. Sigh!

You need to find him damnit...


If I remember correctly its on your backside?

[Phenix_Rider]

You need to find him damnit...


If I remember correctly its on your backside?

:lickout:

[Mr Lefty]

again... IMO... get over the ink thing. it has nothing to do with who the person is.

What is you reason for it? I mean it's yours and you don't have to justify it to anyone... but really... when it comes down to it... would you really pass up someone PERFECT for you but has ink?

if yes then... you're make'n yourself lonely.

if no then... you need to give those girls a chance... or you may do just that.

[CrazyKell]

I need to make a road trip to Canada! Our bikes would look good in the garage together :wink:

Haha! I'm flattered. :wink:

I'd love to find someone that rides. It would just make life a lot easier and even though you'd think that it'd be easier for me to find a guy that rides than for a guy to find a girl that rides.....well that hasn't quite been the case.

But at least my bike is always there for me. :pod: :moto:

[CrazyKell]

You need to find him damnit...


If I remember correctly its on your backside?

Haha! Yeah but I can't post a tushy pic in this area. :whistle:

[Dova80]

again... IMO... get over the ink thing. it has nothing to do with who the person is.

What is you reason for it? I mean it's yours and you don't have to justify it to anyone... but really... when it comes down to it... would you really pass up someone PERFECT for you but has ink?

if yes then... you're make'n yourself lonely.

if no then... you need to give those girls a chance... or you may do just that.

I personally do not have any, and want my wife not to have them either. Main stream or not, call me old fashioned... I know how I am and it would continually degrade on me thus causing problems. Its kinda like that tick you hear that drives you insane?

Passing up someone PERFECT for me would mean she did not have tattoos :) and I would not pass her up.


Haha! Yeah but I can't post a tushy pic in this area. :whistle:

Yes yes Ya know I think PM's will accept attachments. :lol:

[CrazyKell]

I personally do not have any, and want my wife not to have them either. Main stream or not, call me old fashioned... I know how I am and it would continually degrade on me thus causing problems. Its kinda like that tick you hear that drives you insane?

Passing up someone PERFECT for me would mean she did not have tattoos :) and I would not pass her up.

That's fair enough. :shrug:

With some things, the older I get the pickier I am.

But with other things I'm willing to relax a bit and just give people more of a chance. You never really know what things you could get over are until you see if they really are that big of a deal. :whistle:

I think ink would wear on you simply because you say it would. :shrug: You've put that thought in your mind and you just keep on thinking it....you make it come true. (not judging....just saying).

[Dova80]

That's fair enough. :shrug:

With some things, the older I get the pickier I am.

But with other things I'm willing to relax a bit and just give people more of a chance. You never really know what things you could get over are until you see if they really are that big of a deal. :whistle:

I think ink would wear on you simply because you say it would. :shrug: You've put that thought in your mind and you just keep on thinking it....you make it come true. (not judging....just saying).

Its a bad deal as I have passed up some good women, but the tattoos drive me crazy (in a bad way) even just the thought of taking up a relationship. Still friends with most of them, but nothing more will ever be.

[CrazyKell]

I don't want to make you feel badly but....I have it on good authority that the Pie Man doesn't mind tattoos.

I'm just saying. :whistle: :lmao:

[Dova80]

I don't want to make you feel badly but....I have it on good authority that the Pie Man doesn't mind tattoos.

I'm just saying. :whistle: :lmao:

Well I have never met the Pie man so his opinion doesnt matter... :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of "aftermarket accessories" (tats and piercings) myself. Not a deal breaker; just puts me on edge a bit. Then again one girl I dated had a full lower back and partial sleeves, and piercings. The sort of thing that could be hidden under typical office wear. That went reasonably well for a while.

[CrazyKell]

I've never really considered that my tattoos (no piercings other than ears) would put guys off. :?:

I guess if someone doesn't like them (or can't even tolerate them) we don't have a future anyways. I want someone who can't live without me...tattoos and all. :D

[Phenix_Rider]

Haha! I'm flattered. :wink:

I'd love to find someone that rides. It would just make life a lot easier and even though you'd think that it'd be easier for me to find a guy that rides than for a guy to find a girl that rides.....well that hasn't quite been the case.

But at least my bike is always there for me. :pod: :moto:
I've seen two women that ride since I started two seasons ago. One's married, the other was going the other direction- and I didn't feel like chasing her down :lol:


Haha! Yeah but I can't post a tushy pic in this area. :whistle:

:angel: That's what the dark alley is for if you care to make it public.

[Dova80]

Like I have said through the thread, I apprecaite them for what they are... but I just know how picky I am and how when something is wrong (in my mind) then I am pushed to fix it. While there is nothing wrong with tattoos most of my friends have them actually, I personally do not share the same infatuation of them. I do piercings much better than tats.

[rogue]

I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of "aftermarket accessories" (tats and piercings) myself. Not a deal breaker; just puts me on edge a bit. Then again one girl I dated had a full lower back and partial sleeves, and piercings. The sort of thing that could be hidden under typical office wear. That went reasonably well for a while.

Hence the reason all my tats are where they can be concealed, even in the summer (except for swimming). I can choose if I want them to be seen or not at that point. :dthumb:



I've never really considered that my tattoos (no piercings other than ears) would put guys off. :?:

I guess if someone doesn't like them (or can't even tolerate them) we don't have a future anyways. I want someone who can't live without me...tattoos and all. :D

I didn't either and I agree. But I'm not looking either. :lol:

[Phenix_Rider]

I've never really considered that my tattoos (no piercings other than ears) would put guys off. :?:

I guess if someone doesn't like them (or can't even tolerate them) we don't have a future anyways. I want someone who can't live without me...tattoos and all. :D

Not seeing it. The typical stuff doesn't phase me. But I've seen pics of a few that would turn me off- freaky satan around the goods, big ass skulls, no normal skin visible, forked tongue, the Indian neck rings. :td:

[Papa_Complex]

I've never really considered that my tattoos (no piercings other than ears) would put guys off. :?:

I guess if someone doesn't like them (or can't even tolerate them) we don't have a future anyways. I want someone who can't live without me...tattoos and all. :D

It's just a prejudice, like any other, and as such takes just a little more to get past. I also have a thing against blondes, but the last girl I went out with more than just a couple of times was a blonde.

[Dova80]

It's just a prejudice, like any other, and as such takes just a little more to get past. I also have a thing against blondes, but the last girl I went out with more than just a couple of times was a blonde.

Perhaps it is a prejudice, I just do not want them on my wife(someday) and will wait till I find a woman that does not have them. Skin color does not bother me, piercings don't bother me, hair color well I prefer the dark haired women along with auburn/reds...

But the tattoos would cause a problem

[Phenix_Rider]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=5010
Yeah-fourth pic down (full sleeves and leg) is too far.

[Dova80]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=5010
Yeah-fourth pic down (full sleeves and leg) is too far.

The tat is awesome and would love to actually see them

[racedoll]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=5010
Yeah-fourth pic down (full sleeves and leg) is too far.

I can't see this link. :(

When I met my husband, I was 25 going on 26 and he said the same about me - not ever been married and no kids. I do have a tattoo and he doesn't really approve but nothing he can do about it now. I had it before we were married.

There is someone out there, just a matter of time and don't worry about the age thing. You shouldn't rush something just because you are going to be 30.

[Phenix_Rider]

I can't see this link. :(

When I met my husband, I was 25 going on 26 and he said the same about me - not ever been married and no kids. I do have a tattoo and he doesn't really approve but nothing he can do about it now. I had it before we were married.

There is someone out there, just a matter of time and don't worry about the age thing. You shouldn't rush something just because you are going to be 30.

darkalley

[Homeslice]

People say "get over the ink", well why don't women get over the height thing? I'd say maybe only 10% of guys would object to girls with tatoos, but probably 70-80% of women would object to a man who isn't taller than them.

[Mr Lefty]

People say "get over the ink", well why don't women get over the height thing? I'd say maybe only 10% of guys would object to girls with tatoos, but probably 70-80% of women would object to a man who isn't taller than them.

but they're not the ones complaining about being single or the problem with finding a quality guy... or they'd get the same response... at least from me.

I look back at when I was 20 or so and look at the "no go's" for me... and it makes me laugh as to why that would ever fuck'n matter...

I'm still picky ass hell... but there really isn't anything that doesn't have to do with their personality that's a no-go. :idk:

but truthfully he has every right to say hell no to Ink... I just think he's missing out on a lot of "prospects" over something trivial. :2cents:

[Gnome]

I don't see what the problem with 'ink' is. I kinda class it as racist, both my wife and I have many tattoo's and have argued the point with many people over the years, what does the 'colour of my skin' (tats) have to do with who I am or what I am capable of doing?

.DAVID.

Excuse me - do you mind if I ask why you DON'T have any Tattoo's

[Mr Lefty]

I don't see what the problem with 'ink' is. I kinda class it as racist, both my wife and I have many tattoo's and have argued the point with many people over the years, what does the 'colour of my skin' (tats) have to do with who I am or what I am capable of doing?

.DAVID.

Excuse me - do you mind if I ask why you DON'T have any Tattoo's

I wouldn't say it's kinda racist... he's not saying they're not quality people... it's just a feature he doesn't find attractive...

like say cankles, a valley girl sense of humor, or a prostitutes view on sex... it's not an attractive quality. it's not make'n a judgment call about the PERSON... where being Racist is stereotyping people based on their race...

[Adeptus_Minor]

When and where I grew up, tattoos weren't as prevalent among "respectable folks" and I can understand why some people might still view them that way.
I, however, have adapted my views on such things because of my own experiences as well as the way tattoos and piercings have transcended the traditional class lines.
I happen to like tastefully done ink on ladies and I certainly hope they won't mind mine either. ;)

[Papa_Complex]

People say "get over the ink", well why don't women get over the height thing? I'd say maybe only 10% of guys would object to girls with tatoos, but probably 70-80% of women would object to a man who isn't taller than them.

You have a point there and I would even take it a step further. I've spoken to a fair number of women who not only say that they want a guy who is taller than they are, they actually say that they want a guy who is at least 6 feet tall. That just strikes me as bizarre, especially when the girl is five-nothing.

[rogue]

Wow, Dova. Your thread's theme has now become about tattoos. :lmao: :lmao:

Even though I have tats and may or may not *think* his preference(s) may be a little picky, I think we all have our own hidden preferences for any relationship, even friendships. Leave him be about the ink he doesn't care for, or the premade family he doesn't want. He'll either eventually find his perfect mate or 20 years later he'll wonder why he was being so picky. Or maybe not. :idk:

For the record, I think preferences about a relationship should be less about what a person has (ink, kids, job, a 1098, etc) and be more about how a person is a human: honest, communicates well, has desires in life that are compatible with yours, etc. Ink, piercings, and anything that's on the outside should be the least of preferences.

And PC, for some reason I thought you were married. :scratch:

[Papa_Complex]

Oh HELL no. I guess I'm too picky :lol:

[Adeptus_Minor]

For the record, I think preferences about a relationship should be less about what a person has (ink, kids, job, a 1098, etc) and be more about how a person is a human: honest, communicates well, has desires in life that are compatible with yours, etc. Ink, piercings, and anything that's on the outside should be the least of preferences.
:


Yeah, what she said. :dthumb:

[rogue]

You have a point there and I would even take it a step further. I've spoken to a fair number of women who not only say that they want a guy who is taller than they are, they actually say that they want a guy who is at least 6 feet tall. That just strikes me as bizarre, especially when the girl is five-nothing.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Someone being taller than me is pretty much a easy find at my five-nothing (5' 1") height. :lol: I find I'm more attracted to tall (6ft. plus) men, especially with dark hair that's at least long enough to brush...bonus if they can put it in a ponytail!....however, my first hubby (the sperm donor) was only 5'7" with long dark hair and the second hubby was 6'2" with light brown, almost blond hair.

We can't help what we're more attracted to, whether they be tall, short, light, dark, big, skinny....but that doesn't mean that's what we may eventually have as a spouse. ;)

[Dova80]

Wow, Dova. Your thread's theme has now become about tattoos. :lmao: :lmao:

Even though I have tats and may or may not *think* his preference(s) may be a little picky, I think we all have our own hidden preferences for any relationship, even friendships. Leave him be about the ink he doesn't care for, or the premade family he doesn't want. He'll either eventually find his perfect mate or 20 years later he'll wonder why he was being so picky. Or maybe not. :idk:

For the record, I think preferences about a relationship should be less about what a person has (ink, kids, job, a 1098, etc) and be more about how a person is a human: honest, communicates well, has desires in life that are compatible with yours, etc. Ink, piercings, and anything that's on the outside should be the least of preferences.

And PC, for some reason I thought you were married. :scratch:
Seems the ink deal is about as contraversial as race anymore..who knew?

It is about the person, I generally gravitate toward women who have ink because of the attitude and out look on life. But Its just something I do not want, maybe it is because most people have them anymore and well I like exotic different items. I know I have missed out on some great women, but I just do not want it in a future wife. I will be friends with them but thats it.

[Dova80]

I don't see what the problem with 'ink' is. I kinda class it as racist, both my wife and I have many tattoo's and have argued the point with many people over the years, what does the 'colour of my skin' (tats) have to do with who I am or what I am capable of doing?

.DAVID.

Excuse me - do you mind if I ask why you DON'T have any Tattoo's

It has nothing to do with a racist, like I have said I enjoy tattoos its an art form that has progressed to levels that is just insane. But I have made a choice on my wife I do not want her to have them. That does not mean I have a problem with ink, I find them very intresting and enjoy looking at them. But on my wife I do not want her to have any..

I dont have any tattoos because I just dont want them. Why dont you have a bone through your nose? Its just a choice thats all...

[Papa_Complex]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Someone being taller than me is pretty much a easy find at my five-nothing (5' 1") height. :lol: I find I'm more attracted to tall (6ft. plus) men, especially with dark hair that's at least long enough to brush...bonus if they can put it in a ponytail!....however, my first hubby (the sperm donor) was only 5'7" with long dark hair and the second hubby was 6'2" with light brown, almost blond hair.

We can't help what we're more attracted to, whether they be tall, short, light, dark, big, skinny....but that doesn't mean that's what we may eventually have as a spouse. ;)

You... you... you... HEIGHTIST!

I agree that you can't control what you're attracted to, but I see a bit of a difference in the various criteria that people have. You can't choose your height, eye colour, skin colour.... but you CAN choose whether you have piercings and tattoos. For that reason they can be revealing of the person who has them, where real physical characteristics don't reveal anything about what the person is like, inside.

I thought of another thing that puts me off; coloured contacts. A ladyfriend of mine always wished that she'd been born with blue eyes rather than brown. She got herself a set of blue contacts and when she wears them, I just can't look her in the eyes. It's like looking into the eyes of a shark; emotionless.

I've got a friend who is 6'7" tall and I'd introduce you, but he's already been taken by two consecutive southern American girls. Wonder why that is....

[rogue]

You... you... you... HEIGHTIST!

I agree that you can't control what you're attracted to, but I see a bit of a difference in the various criteria that people have. You can't choose your height, eye colour, skin colour.... but you CAN choose whether you have piercings and tattoos. For that reason they can be revealing of the person who has them, where real physical characteristics don't reveal anything about what the person is like, inside.

I thought of another thing that puts me off; coloured contacts. A ladyfriend of mine always wished that she'd been born with blue eyes rather than brown. She got herself a set of blue contacts and when she wears them, I just can't look her in the eyes. It's like looking into the eyes of a shark; emotionless.

I've got a friend who is 6'7" tall and I'd introduce you, but he's already been taken by two consecutive southern American girls. Wonder why that is....

For the record, I want you to know I crawled out of my warm cozy bed to get on my PC to reply instead of typing this all out via phone. Feel priviledged redflip

I've attempted to be pretty neutral in this thread because I do think each person has a right to their preference in what they'd like in a mate, from the inside to the out. What one person doesn't like, another will appeciate. I just kind of threw my own throughts into the mesh. ;)

Delving a bit further, how would you feel about meeting someone you are insanely attracted to, both inside and out, only to find out 6 months down the road her eye color is due to contacts, or she has a small tat that's out of sight?

Then you have to ask yourself, just how much of your preferences are you willing to bend the rules on? What are YOU willing to let go of in your own ideals of a perfect mate to have a realistic one?

And thanks, but no thanks on the offer of introducing me to your tall friend, whether he's taken or not. He'd be awesome to have around to reach the things I can't (a damn good reason to have a taller mate :lol: ) but I'm not looking. I prefer being single, free in my own right, and out of the bullshit and rat race of looking. :lol:

[CrazyKell]

Getting back to the original point of this thread (btw I don't think your preferences, you inkist you, are racist at all!)

Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30

I think by thinking this way, that you'd do such and such by this age, is setting yourself up for disaster. Among my friends, especially female, I have seen more and more heartbreak because of this thinking.

They say things like "I thought I'd be married by this age." or "I want kids by the time I'm X years old."

Stop living your life by that number and just let it happen.

Truth be told, when I was a kid we used to talk about what would be happening in our lives in the year 2000. I was 24 that year and I always thought I would have finished my undergrad and be just finishing up my graduate degree in Speech Language Pathology. I thought I'd more than likely be married too.

I'm nowhere near those things! Does it mean I don't love the life I have or the choices I've made? Hell no! It just means I took a different road than the one I thought I'd take. We can't predict the future. :wink:

[Papa_Complex]

For the record, I want you to know I crawled out of my warm cozy bed to get on my PC to reply instead of typing this all out via phone. Feel priviledged redflip

I've been at work since 6:15am. Suck it up :lol:

I've attempted to be pretty neutral in this thread because I do think each person has a right to their preference in what they'd like in a mate, from the inside to the out. What one person doesn't like, another will appeciate. I just kind of threw my own throughts into the mesh. ;)

Delving a bit further, how would you feel about meeting someone you are insanely attracted to, both inside and out, only to find out 6 months down the road her eye color is due to contacts, or she has a small tat that's out of sight?

Then you have to ask yourself, just how much of your preferences are you willing to bend the rules on? What are YOU willing to let go of in your own ideals of a perfect mate to have a realistic one?

I've already said that I've gotten around my preferences on many occasions, so finding out down the line wouldn't be an issue.

Oh, and I haven't been fooled by those stupid coloured contacts yet ;)

And thanks, but no thanks on the offer of introducing me to your tall friend, whether he's taken or not. He'd be awesome to have around to reach the things I can't (a damn good reason to have a taller mate :lol: ) but I'm not looking. I prefer being single, free in my own right, and out of the bullshit and rat race of looking. :lol:

Funny, I feel pretty much the same way ;)

[rogue]

I've been at work since 6:15am. Suck it up :lol:


Funny, I feel pretty much the same way ;)

I got off work at 5 and it's after 7 now. I've already worked my shift. :nee:


I find it amusing that I haven't found alot of people who feel that way. Even the single people I know online are always looking for "the one". Puleeze. Stop looking so hard....they always seem to come around when you don't want them. Then, if you're like me, run in the opposite direction screaming like a little bitch as fast as you can! :lmao: :lmao:

[Adeptus_Minor]

Even the single people I know online are always looking for "the one". Puleeze. Stop looking so hard....

Well, ok... but it always sounds so greedy when I say I'm looking for three or four.

[Papa_Complex]

It decreases for as many, if not more. No surprise, of course, that being surrounded by younger, more desirable competition would shake their confidence. Which is one reason many older women are easier scores for younger guys than the girls their own age.

That's not necessarily so. Traditionally older men have had it easy finding younger women, who tend to appreciate the maturity, income, possessions, and stability of older men. These days older women are finding it easier to latch onto a younger man, because they now possess those same attributes previously attributed to older men.

There are always people with low self esteem but to make blanket attributions, is to be incorrect.

[fnfalman]

I used to be picky too: no tattoo, no dyed hair, no this, no that. Then I got tired of fucking my fist and now it's two tits and a heartbeat, eight to eighty, blind, crippled and crazy!!!

[Homeslice]

I've attempted to be pretty neutral in this thread because I do think each person has a right to their preference in what they'd like in a mate, from the inside to the out. What one person doesn't like, another will appeciate. I just kind of threw my own throughts into the mesh.

People DO have the right to have preferences, I just get tired of women saying that men are the most superficial sex, like as if men only care about physical features, and they all want blondes with big T&A. When in reality women are just as superficial.......they just don't talk about it as much in public.

For example your preference for dark-haired guys is definitely shared by the majority of women. Men in contrast do not care as much about hair color.

I will say however that men SEEM to be pickier about body shape than women are (but again, all we know about people's preferences is based on what they're willing to admit publically)

[fnfalman]

Men in contrast do not care as much about hair color.

Yep. We like it hairless down there.:whistle:

[Papa_Complex]

When in reality women are just as superficial.......they just don't talk about it as much in public.

Let me correct you there; they don't talk about it WITH MEN. Get yourself a table in a restaurant near a hen circle and listen to the conversation. It might as well be a high school boys locker room.

[azoomm]

At the end of the day, you can try and blame other people for not being perfect all you want - every failed relationship you have had does have one clear thing in common with the others. You.

Know yourself.

Like yourself.

If you don't like who YOU are, how can you expect anyone else to like you [let alone love you]. Understanding what you have to offer another person is a fantastic thing to bring to a relationship.

[Homeslice]

You have a point there and I would even take it a step further. I've spoken to a fair number of women who not only say that they want a guy who is taller than they are, they actually say that they want a guy who is at least 6 feet tall. That just strikes me as bizarre, especially when the girl is five-nothing.

Exactly, if the girl is 5'2", why would she want a guy who is 6'5"? That's 15 inches taller, which means that her eyes would be at his nipples. Never understood why that would be attractive to a woman. Neck cramps, anyone?

[xx CURVE xx]

Try being 36 and looking 26

[CrazyKell]

Try being 36 and looking 26

Well I've seen pictures of you and I have NO idea why you'd have a hard time at all. :whistle: Just sayin'. :shrug:

[MILK]

It decreases for as many, if not more. No surprise, of course, that being surrounded by younger, more desirable competition would shake their confidence.

That's completely wrong although very humorous!! :lol:

[MILK]

At the end of the day, you can try and blame other people for not being perfect all you want - every failed relationship you have had does have one clear thing in common with the others. You.

Know yourself.

Like yourself.

If you don't like who YOU are, how can you expect anyone else to like you [let alone love you]. Understanding what you have to offer another person is a fantastic thing to bring to a relationship.


That is exactly what I've thought reading this thread but couldn't think of a way to word it!! :dthumb:

[xx CURVE xx]

Well I've seen pictures of you and I have NO idea why you'd have a hard time at all. :whistle: Just sayin'. :shrug:

cause i don't want to date anyone that can't buy a beer :lol:
and thats the only ones that seem to want...most ladies "my age" either look like shit, have 5 kids, been married 3 times, etc etc... thanks by the way :)

[Papa_Complex]

Exactly, if the girl is 5'2", why would she want a guy who is 6'5"? That's 15 inches taller, which means that her eyes would be at his nipples. Never understood why that would be attractive to a woman. Neck cramps, anyone?

Oh, I know why, but no 'educated, modern woman' would want to admit to it :lol:

[R6Chick]

People DO have the right to have preferences, I just get tired of women saying that men are the most superficial sex, like as if men only care about physical features, and they all want blondes with big T&A. When in reality women are just as superficial.......they just don't talk about it as much in public.

For example your preference for dark-haired guys is definitely shared by the majority of women. Men in contrast do not care as much about hair color.

I will say however that men SEEM to be pickier about body shape than women are (but again, all we know about people's preferences is based on what they're willing to admit publically)

That's not completely true either. I'm the type of girl that will date the guy who people think are ugly because they treat me well and have other great qualities. I'm just lucky that I found those qualities in a really great looking guy currently.

I'd rather date the ugly, funny guy than the asshole jock anyday.

[fnfalman]

I'd rather date the ugly, funny guy than the asshole jock anyday.

That's me!!!

[Papa_Complex]

That's me!!!

The ugly, funny, asshole jock?

[comonboys]

I agree.

I know what I want (more or less) in life, and have figured out some of what I have to do to get there.
I don't need a playboy model (tho it would be nice)
I don't need a milionare (again, helpful but not necessary)
I need someone that will let me do what I want to do, and understand (somewhat) where I am coming from.
I understand that women have ideas/plans/etc too, and I am all for helping achieve those goals, provided they are on a similar path as my own.

If a woman comes along and fits into those plans and can help me achieve them, good. If she will be a hinderance to those plans, she's gone.

So far, comonboys seems to be a very good addition to helping me achieve my plans. :D



Ahhhh, thanks honey...... I am working on the millionare thing. :rockwoot:

[CrazyKell]

cause i don't want to date anyone that can't buy a beer :lol:
and thats the only ones that seem to want...most ladies "my age" either look like shit, have 5 kids, been married 3 times, etc etc... thanks by the way :)

Isn't your area supposed to be one of the best for single people? :scratch: :cf: :whistle:

[fnfalman]

The ugly, funny, asshole jock?

I'm your regular renaissance man.

[Papa_Complex]

I'm your regular renaissance man.

You related to this guy?

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery/galleries/080522-25_cmp/Candid/_thumbs/700x500-P5249866.jpg

[Archren]

At the end of the day, you can try and blame other people for not being perfect all you want - every failed relationship you have had does have one clear thing in common with the others. You.

Know yourself.

Like yourself.

If you don't like who YOU are, how can you expect anyone else to like you [let alone love you]. Understanding what you have to offer another person is a fantastic thing to bring to a relationship.

Plus eleventy-fucking-billion.

[CrazyKell]

You related to this guy?

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multimedia/gallery/galleries/080522-25_cmp/Candid/_thumbs/700x500-P5249866.jpg

He gives me the creeps! :panic:

[fnfalman]

You related to this guy?


More like this guy...except without his money.
http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1010/230644.1010.A.jpg

[Papa_Complex]

He gives me the creeps! :panic:

More than once I've wanted to turn around and clock him one, when he's been yelling and laughing his ass off in the stands right behind me.

[xx CURVE xx]

Isn't your area supposed to be one of the best for single people? :scratch: :cf: :whistle:

if you have a Benz maybe lol

[CrazyKell]

No love for the tard I guess. :luck:

[xx CURVE xx]

No love for the tard I guess. :luck:

No..this retard gets no love :lol:


Whos that dude giving the creeps up there?

[CrazyKell]

Crevier. Racer from Quebec.

[Papa_Complex]

Crevier. Racer from Quebec.

They should know him too. He raced down there for several years, in AMA, at the top levels.

[CrazyKell]

They should know him too. He raced down there for several years, in AMA, at the top levels.

Yeah but you can't blame them for not wanting to remember his name. :scared:

[Papa_Complex]

I suppose not :lol:

[rogue]

People DO have the right to have preferences, I just get tired of women saying that men are the most superficial sex, like as if men only care about physical features, and they all want blondes with big T&A. When in reality women are just as superficial.......they just don't talk about it as much in public.

For example your preference for dark-haired guys is definitely shared by the majority of women. Men in contrast do not care as much about hair color.

I will say however that men SEEM to be pickier about body shape than women are (but again, all we know about people's preferences is based on what they're willing to admit publically)

I guess I'm mature enough to know realistically, my outside preferences doesn't matter much when it comes to relationships because it's the how the person is inside that can either make or break the relationship.

Let me correct you there; they don't talk about it WITH MEN. Get yourself a table in a restaurant near a hen circle and listen to the conversation. It might as well be a high school boys locker room.

Been there: done that. Yet men are NO better. Listen to the men and their thoughts, however joking, about women, their likes and dislikes. Most men's ideal mate seems to be an anorexic trophy wife with big boobs and looks innocent yet a freak in bed. And young. Let's not forget young... :lol:

Exactly, if the girl is 5'2", why would she want a guy who is 6'5"? That's 15 inches taller, which means that her eyes would be at his nipples. Never understood why that would be attractive to a woman. Neck cramps, anyone?


Us short people learn how to tilt our heads without getting neck cramps too bad, thankyouverymuch! :lol:

Being short I come to accept that almost everyone is taller than I & there will be very few people I will ever be able to look in the eye without looking up first. It's a fact I long accepted and so have most other short people. Looking at nips and getting neck cramps from looking up doesn't phase us.

Do YOU look at your eye level when speaking to a short person that makes you look at the top of their head or even the space above it? No. You still look at their eyes when speaking to them. I've yet to encounter anyone who tries to hold a conversation with me like that. Although I know they do look! My tall friends tell me when it's time to dye my hair. :lmao:

Oh, I know why, but no 'educated, modern woman' would want to admit to it :lol:

Not many women would admit why they like tall men whether they're educated, modern, or not because, for the most part, they seem rather silly and *gasp* girly and quite sappy. Plus taller people can reach all the things shorter people can't! :lmao: The last one's not a real reason why I prefer taller people, but it's a bonus. :D

Just like older vs younger, it's all in what others feel they're more attracted to on the surface.

[cbrchick]

Seems all of a sudden my age is starting to tarnish my though of it being just a number. Yes it is just a number, but I am starting to see the fuse burning so to speak, turning 28 only two more years till I am 30. I had always thought I would get married by 30, now the pickings of women has be reevaluating where I stand. It seems women are just crazy anymore, or perhaps I am but I am guessing the former. The lack of moral fiber in people in general is atrocious, the lack of general courtesy is appalling, and finding a girl without children and tattoos seems to be getting damn near impossible. This is very detrimental to my idea of having a family.

I am curious does anyone else have this problem? Perhaps my standards are to high for my income?


its time for another rum and pepsi...

Heya D.....

I think you're a good catch :)

Single at 28 isn't a bad thing. Don't let your age get you down. It's so freak'n young.

My 28th year was my best year. I had had a few long term relationships, learned a lot and finally decided not to settle for what was really important in a partner. I also learned over time to drop some of my "ideal" wants in a mate.

I know you have this thing with tattoos, kids etc.... But good people come with history. Try to have an open mind and date people you wouldn't normally date.

I always thought I wanted someone with a university education, no tattoos, a 9-5 job....

I married a military boy with 9 tattoos, a huge black beast of a dog (I've never ever owned a dog), no university education, and physically he is shorter and thinner than my conquests.

He is my best friend. He treats me beyond special in ways people who love one another should. He makes me laugh. He's kind, outgoing, and loves his family. He's smart, creative and has a wicked work ethic.

Hell, he rode a GasGas when we met.

I always thought I didn't want to marry someone that was away a lot with work, b/c my father was a lot when we were growing up. My husband was gone close to 7 months over all in our first year of marriage.

He was was not the person I "thought" I would marry, but I can't imagine spending my life with anyone else.

Open yourself up to other possibilities. Take advantage of every opportunity to meet new people. And take a chance on someone you might not normally.

My 28th year was my best year.

We all get old, we old get wrinkled and our bodies fall apart. Find someone with a good heart, a curious mind, and desire for life.

[the chi]

I wouldn't say it's kinda racist... he's not saying they're not quality people... it's just a feature he doesn't find attractive...

like say cankles, a valley girl sense of humor, or a prostitutes view on sex... it's not an attractive quality. it's not make'n a judgment call about the PERSON... where being Racist is stereotyping people based on their race...

BUt he did admit that I appear quality, and Kell too...so you cant have it both ways. Ink doesnt affect WHO a person is or their quality. Dova is only limiting himself to like 2% of the young single female pop. these days. :lol: His choice.

Something to think about if tats offend you...unless you saw many of us naked, you'd never know we had tats.

If you met me in my office, in professional attire, you'd never know I have tats, can sport a mohawk (in green no less), can do my own mechanic work, and can ride the wheels off my bike on the street and track. According to some people, :lol: I look like a tiny lil pixie who might break if you look at me too hard. Oh yeah, I also look like a nice person! :lol: Appearances are so very deceiving no? :wink:

I used to be picky too: no tattoo, no dyed hair, no this, no that. Then I got tired of fucking my fist and now it's two tits and a heartbeat, eight to eighty, blind, crippled and crazy!!!

This is why i adore you. So straightforward. When I come to cali can we go to the opera?

Exactly, if the girl is 5'2", why would she want a guy who is 6'5"? That's 15 inches taller, which means that her eyes would be at his nipples. Never understood why that would be attractive to a woman. Neck cramps, anyone?

Umm, whats wrong with that? My guy and I meet those dimensions exactly and while it is sometimes a pain, we fit quite nicely! And like Rogue said, they come in handy for those tall cabinets!!!

Try being 36 and looking 26

Tell me about it, Ive looked 12 since I WAS 12, and now people think I color my hair silver!! Being a woman, Im ok with it now, as looking 10 years younger is a plus, but it can be odd sometimes!!

Oh, I know why, but no 'educated, modern woman' would want to admit to it :lol:

I give up, what am I missing here? Why else would a short woman want a tall man, other than reaching things and just falling in love with someone regardless of size?

CBR Chick and Azzoom win the award of the day for wisdom!!

[xx CURVE xx]

Crevier. Racer from Quebec.

don't know who he is...must mean he's not all that good :p

[fnfalman]

Hell, he rode a GasGas when we met.

Chicks dig scooters.



We all get old, we old get wrinkled and our bodies fall apart. Find someone with a good heart, a curious mind, and desire for life.

Not me. I'll keep trading them in for younger models!!!

[xx CURVE xx]

Chicks dig scooters.



Not me. I'll keep trading them in for younger models!!!


I like this dude :lol:

[fnfalman]

This is why i adore you. So straightforward. When I come to cali can we go to the opera?

But of course, ma cher.

Just think of how sweet it is to roll up to the Los Angeles Opera House in full leathers and the motos. We'll be the toasts of the town!!!

[cbrchick]

Chicks dig scooters.



!

Gas Gas EC 300

Not a scooter :P

But we have 2 of those as well.

[the chi]

where the heck did that pic come from??

That road rash looks familiar...*sigh* Jennings T8 I miss you...

[Mr Lefty]

BUt he did admit that I appear quality, and Kell too...so you cant have it both ways. Ink doesnt affect WHO a person is or their quality. Dova is only limiting himself to like 2% of the young single female pop. these days. :lol: His choice.

Something to think about if tats offend you...unless you saw many of us naked, you'd never know we had tats.

If you met me in my office, in professional attire, you'd never know I have tats, can sport a mohawk (in green no less), can do my own mechanic work, and can ride the wheels off my bike on the street and track. According to some people, :lol: I look like a tiny lil pixie who might break if you look at me too hard. Oh yeah, I also look like a nice person! :lol: Appearances are so very deceiving no? :wink:



blah... kell may be quality... you're... well not a good value... 200% attitude... in half the package

Sweet cheeks?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh63/TwoWheelFix/2008%20Indy%20Trip%20Fri/CIMG2042.jpg


:rofl:

where the heck did that pic come from??

That road rash looks familiar...*sigh* Jennings T8 I miss you...

that rash? that HAND looks familiar! :zowned:

[the chi]

Nothing wrong with attitude...

Thats not a hand, thats a PAW...animal.


:lol:

[Mr Lefty]

Nothing wrong with attitude...

Thats not a hand, thats a PAW...animal.


:lol:

well it definitely was the size of your ass

[Papa_Complex]

don't know who he is...must mean he's not all that good :p

Former AMA 600 Supersport champion.

[xx CURVE xx]

Former AMA 600 Supersport champion.

meh..fast trackday guy :lol:

[Homeslice]

Umm, whats wrong with that? My guy and I meet those dimensions exactly and while it is sometimes a pain, we fit quite nicely! And like Rogue said, they come in handy for those tall cabinets!!!
There is nothing WRONG with it, but my question was about girls who view it as one of their goals to get. Being tall enough to reach pots on the shelf doesn't seem like it would be a powerful enough reason for a girl to have it on their checklist.

I give up, what am I missing here? Why else would a short woman want a tall man, other than reaching things and just falling in love with someone regardless of size?
I can't speak for PC, but it seems to me that the most often cited explanation for why women prefer taller men is because of the whole "man as protector" thing. Plus there's the several years of conditioning kids get watching Hollywood movies and TV shows where the man is always taller than the woman.

[the chi]

There is nothing WRONG with that, but my question was about girls who view it as one of their goals to get.


I can't speak for PC, but it seems to me that the most often cited explanation for why women prefer taller men is because of the whole "man as protector" thing.


Thanks for clarifying...yeah, while I do like tall guys, its not a goal of mine. I just happened to fall in love with a REALLY tall person. Maybe Im not aware of it and its instinct, but yeah, not so much a need for a protector. I think I only dated him to steal his truck. And guns. And maybe to kidnap his cats.

The only bad thing I know of is we have issues with taking pics of us, like the hold it yourself thing. He's too tall and cuts me out, and im too short and cant get me in it either! :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

meh..fast trackday guy :lol:

IIRC also had a 4th place overall in AMA Superbike.

[Adeptus_Minor]

I think I only dated him to steal his truck. And guns. And maybe to kidnap his cats.

Further proof that too many of the good ones are taken.
No need to steal, btw... I'd share.:dthumb:

[Mr Lefty]

Thanks for clarifying...yeah, while I do like tall guys, its not a goal of mine. I just happened to fall in love with a REALLY tall person. Maybe Im not aware of it and its instinct, but yeah, not so much a need for a protector. I think I only dated him to steal his truck. And guns. And maybe to kidnap his cats.

The only bad thing I know of is we have issues with taking pics of us, like the hold it yourself thing. He's too tall and cuts me out, and im too short and cant get me in it either! :lol:

to have normal sized, ie 6'+, children. that's why... we have to make up for your lack of height

[Avatard]

Yep. We like it hairless down there.:whistle:

What's this "we" shit??

[azoomm]

cause i don't want to date anyone that can't buy a beer :lol:
and thats the only ones that seem to want...most ladies "my age" either look like shit, have 5 kids, been married 3 times, etc etc... thanks by the way :)

Wrong.

Alex, baby... you're just still a bit *young* for most women your physical age. I don't know another way to say it - I'm trying to be nice and in unfamiliar territory :lol:

[Mr Lefty]

What's this "we" shit??

ehh as long as they trim I'm good...

[Adeptus_Minor]

ehh as long as they trim I'm good...

Yeah, what he said.
If I wanted to visit the jungle, I'd travel more.

[azoomm]

Not saying it doesn't help, but lots of people love (and stay with) people who don't love themselves. It's everywhere.

OH, I know that. But, if you look at those couples - neither of them love themselves nearly as much as they love everything else around them. So, it works for some :idk:

I just believe that people shouldn't settle, and should be out there for the other they deserve. Dova, sweety... you might have already found it in the past. I think you know that though. :(

Just remember, for those that think otherwise - a bad relationship is much like taking bad milk out of the trash to take a big drink JUST to make sure :wink: If you know it isn't going to work, be honest with them and yourself... that makes you available to find the person you aren't going to settle for.

[Papa_Complex]

I can't speak for PC, but it seems to me that the most often cited explanation for why women prefer taller men is because of the whole "man as protector" thing. Plus there's the several years of conditioning kids get watching Hollywood movies and TV shows where the man is always taller than the woman.

In this instance at least, it appears that you can speak for me ;)

[rogue]

I've had tall and short. When it comes to being assholes, height knows no difference. :lol:

[Particle Man]

I've had tall and short. When it comes to being assholes, height knows no difference. :lol:

that goes for women too :)

[rogue]

that goes for women too :)

Oh I know! I gave up on females a loooooooong time ago. :lol:

[fatbuckRTO]

eHarmony

[Phenix_Rider]

This thread keeps going and going (insert energizer bunny)Well, ok... but it always sounds so greedy when I say I'm looking for three or four.
:lol:
Try being 36 and looking 26
Heh- I'm in the same boat. If I ever bought cigarettes, I'd get carded. At least I don't get it going to an R movie anymore
cause i don't want to date anyone that can't buy a beer :lol:
and thats the only ones that seem to want...most ladies "my age" either look like shit, have 5 kids, been married 3 times, etc etc... thanks by the way :)
:panic: Where are you? That sounds like my area!

Most men's ideal mate seems to be an anorexic trophy wife with big boobs and looks innocent yet a freak in bed. And young. Let's not forget young... :lol:
You got part of that right. :) As for the anorexic, trophy, and so on- no thanks. Why anyone would want a barbie (or ken) doll is beyond me. Brains, and (for lack of a better word) balls are more important than anything.

[Dova80]

At the end of the day, you can try and blame other people for not being perfect all you want - every failed relationship you have had does have one clear thing in common with the others. You.

Know yourself.

Like yourself.

If you don't like who YOU are, how can you expect anyone else to like you [let alone love you]. Understanding what you have to offer another person is a fantastic thing to bring to a relationship.

I knew of all the failed relationships something would come from it, be it learning what I want or dont want etc...

I do love who I am which is exactly why i am not willing to change for anyone to accommodate what they want in a person. Thanks for chiming in though, I do enjoy your input. :)

[Dova80]

Heya D.....

I think you're a good catch :)

Single at 28 isn't a bad thing. Don't let your age get you down. It's so freak'n young.

My 28th year was my best year. I had had a few long term relationships, learned a lot and finally decided not to settle for what was really important in a partner. I also learned over time to drop some of my "ideal" wants in a mate.

I know you have this thing with tattoos, kids etc.... But good people come with history. Try to have an open mind and date people you wouldn't normally date.

I always thought I wanted someone with a university education, no tattoos, a 9-5 job....

I married a military boy with 9 tattoos, a huge black beast of a dog (I've never ever owned a dog), no university education, and physically he is shorter and thinner than my conquests.

He is my best friend. He treats me beyond special in ways people who love one another should. He makes me laugh. He's kind, outgoing, and loves his family. He's smart, creative and has a wicked work ethic.

Hell, he rode a GasGas when we met.

I always thought I didn't want to marry someone that was away a lot with work, b/c my father was a lot when we were growing up. My husband was gone close to 7 months over all in our first year of marriage.

He was was not the person I "thought" I would marry, but I can't imagine spending my life with anyone else.

Open yourself up to other possibilities. Take advantage of every opportunity to meet new people. And take a chance on someone you might not normally.

My 28th year was my best year.

We all get old, we old get wrinkled and our bodies fall apart. Find someone with a good heart, a curious mind, and desire for life.

Thanks you darlin. again congrats to you and the soon to be little one.

I generally do not have a problem dating any person, I just have a few requirements that they have to meet. Like I have said before I am attracted to women that have tattoos because of the attitude and how they carry themselves, but I just can not see myself with a wife that has tattoos. :idk:

[Dova80]

BUt he did admit that I appear quality, and Kell too...so you cant have it both ways. Ink doesnt affect WHO a person is or their quality. Dova is only limiting himself to like 2% of the young single female pop. these days. :lol: His choice.

Something to think about if tats offend you...unless you saw many of us naked, you'd never know we had tats.

If you met me in my office, in professional attire, you'd never know I have tats, can sport a mohawk (in green no less), can do my own mechanic work, and can ride the wheels off my bike on the street and track. According to some people, :lol: I look like a tiny lil pixie who might break if you look at me too hard. Oh yeah, I also look like a nice person! :lol: Appearances are so very deceiving no? :wink:



Tell me about the 2% its quite difficult to find a girl that does not have them.

Tattoos do not offend me, I enjoy looking at them some truly are pieces of art. I just do not want a wife with one... I cant explain it :idk:

[fnfalman]

Tattoos do not offend me, I enjoy looking at them some truly are pieces of art. I just do not want a wife with one... I cant explain it :idk:

Usually they don't marry you unless they date you first. Of coure there's always the foreign bride order route.

[Dova80]

Usually they don't marry you unless they date you first. Of coure there's always the foreign bride order route.

Thought about that too, there are some smoking hot eastern european women that want to come to america lol

[Homeslice]

I don't see where you're meeting women where "most" of them have ink. I'm gonna guess less than 20% of women have ink, and even among that 20%, most of them just have the tramp stamp right at the beltline, and no other ink. Nothing to write home about.

[Adeptus_Minor]

While you might be correct about the tramp stamp or other small flash, I would say that 20% around here would be women who have no ink at all.
And most of them are either much older, or too young to have anything yet.

[Tmall]

As for the height issue, I prefer a woman much smaller than myself. There are many reasons. The main one being that I'm a pervert, and that's the only reasons I need.

[azoomm]

I knew of all the failed relationships something would come from it, be it learning what I want or dont want etc...

I do love who I am which is exactly why i am not willing to change for anyone to accommodate what they want in a person. Thanks for chiming in though, I do enjoy your input. :)

It's more a personal mantra that I went through when struggling with being single. :wink: Maybe a move is in order... I would suggest Austin as the dating mecca that it is - but a lot of tats down here.

You're a great catch, man... I say, be aware of the little things that you have on that check list - but stop looking for them FIRST.