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Homeslice
02-22-2009, 11:40 AM
This is the 3rd HP laptop that has done this..........After about a year of use, it won't stay on standby or hibernate. Doesn't matter how you put it on standby/hibernate, whether by hitting the power button or closing the lid......It still powers back up a few minutes later while sitting inside your bag or backpack. :rolleyes: Heck, my most recent HP is even worse, it not only powers back up, it actually reboots, and keeps doing so every ~20 seconds and you can't stop it unless you remove the battery and the cord and try again in a few hours.

And no, it's not me who keeps buying these things, they're company laptops.

Cutty72
02-22-2009, 11:56 AM
I'm on an HP lappy now... mine is good.
about 2.5 years old and no issues as of yet.

Avatard
02-22-2009, 12:35 PM
Windows computers have sleep issues. It's not just HP. The sleep function is broken in Windows.

...But now that you mention it; Yes, HP Laptops suck.

Mac if you can afford it; Lenova Thinkpad if you can't.

snaps
02-22-2009, 12:47 PM
I'm on an HP laptop now, I think the build date was somewhere around 2004 and it works perfectly.

PEBKAC?

Avatard
02-22-2009, 12:52 PM
PEBKAC?

I think not. Windows has known sleep issues, unresolved since day one. Perhaps you got lucky, and got a hardware combo that the sleep properly operates with...but for most, this is an old issue.

Google it.

Tmall
02-22-2009, 01:01 PM
Had an Hp that didn't make a year. Loose screen, dead pixels, busted usb ports and the power cord had to be plugged in at the proper angle. Didn't even bother trying to get it repaired under warranty. Lost all fate in them. My first pc was an Hp. It sounded like a lawnmower from day one and went through way too many components..

IMO, Hp = garbage..

Apoc
02-22-2009, 01:15 PM
mine works great.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 03:19 PM
Mine works ok. I did have a sleep problem but ended up with the computer causing all kinds of problems. I checked the hp website and there was a listed problem with the mother board or something. I sent it in. Had the repairs done and everything is good. My brother and sister sister both have HP laptops and they seem to be doing well.

James

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 03:45 PM
It's not just HP. The sleep function is broken in Windows.


It's a problem w/ something w/ the operating system, not HP.



But HP's "ok" I don't like thier customer support.... but everyone is outsourced now so *shrugs* ya take what you can get when you have no other choice.

SteveP
02-22-2009, 03:49 PM
2 years later with my MacBook and it works perfectly.

Apple = winz :sorry:

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 03:52 PM
2 years later with my MacBook and it works perfectly.

Apple = winz :sorry:

https://home.comcast.net/~rahorton/MacSnob.jpg

Flexin
02-22-2009, 04:13 PM
It's a problem w/ something w/ the operating system, not HP.



But HP's "ok" I don't like thier customer support.... but everyone is outsourced now so *shrugs* ya take what you can get when you have no other choice.

I didn't mind the customer support overall. I tried the online support so I didn't have to sit on the phone. Well I had to do something about 10 minutes later for a sec and missed the support help. So I went into it again and also called to see who I would get first. I received help minutes before the online help. He spoke English, went through steps that I have done myself many many times. After a few minutes of that I he said it needs to to be sent in for repairs.

A box arrived the next day to send it out in. I sent it out and had it back in about 4 or 5 days.

James

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 04:19 PM
Much better story than we've been through w/ the home help support (granted, when talking about enterprise support w/ the servers, it's been stellar, much better than the support for Dell enterprise products).


We've had several problems w/ the wife's old laptop, coming from hardware failures and what-not. One of the issues w/ hardware (was a memory issue) they said was attributed to me removing Mcafee (or was it Symantec?) from the system and putting AVG on it..... They were trying to do anything they could not to accept the system because I changed the anti-virus. Fought w/ them for two? three days before they'd finally transfer me to someone I could actually talk to that would handle the situation. We've vowed not to buy another HP product (computer) since. We've had no problems w/ our Multi-Function laser printer.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 04:35 PM
Much better story than we've been through w/ the home help support (granted, when talking about enterprise support w/ the servers, it's been stellar, much better than the support for Dell enterprise products).


We've had several problems w/ the wife's old laptop, coming from hardware failures and what-not. One of the issues w/ hardware (was a memory issue) they said was attributed to me removing Mcafee (or was it Symantec?) from the system and putting AVG on it..... They were trying to do anything they could not to accept the system because I changed the anti-virus. Fought w/ them for two? three days before they'd finally transfer me to someone I could actually talk to that would handle the situation. We've vowed not to buy another HP product (computer) since. We've had no problems w/ our Multi-Function laser printer.

Bad customer support can turn you off a product real fast. Things break. Shit happens but if a company won't back a product its a problem.

When I worked at Costco I worked in electronics for a while. One week a customer came in and said they hated brand x because they were a bad product or bad support. But they liked brand y because they worked for a doctor that had three of these computers. They all had problems but the company was real quick to fix it.

Two days later another woman came in who loved brand X but hated brand Y.

Everybody has a opinion. I never was a fan of Compaq. I own a HP now and they are owned by the same company now. Even knowing that I still don't want a Conpaq. :idk:

Way back in the day I had a IBM. I had a modem go on it. I called in to customer support and they had someone come to my house a day or two later and repair it right in my living room. Now that is service. I had another small problem and called in but I was just passed my warranty period. She asked for my extended warranty number. I said I didn't buy it. She let me go.

James

2 years later with my MacBook and it works perfectly.

Apple = winz :sorry:

I would rather put my dick in a blender then to buy a Macbook. :idk:

James

Homeslice
02-22-2009, 04:47 PM
https://home.comcast.net/~rahorton/MacSnob.jpg

You know the funny thing is, I notice more "we're superior" comments from PC fans, than I do from Mac fans. :idk:

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 04:48 PM
I would rather put my dick in a blender then to buy a Macbook. :idk:

James


:zowned:



But in all seriously I've been thinking of getting a mac for graphical/video work. Beyond that I don't have much use for it and I can get most of what i need done graphical/video wise on a Microsoft based operating system.


So many say "Fuck Microsoft" well ya know what, develop something better that will do everything these Microsoft products will do. I know Microsoft is far from flawless and sometimes their packages are far from perfect, but all in all they're not that bad.

You know the funny thing is, I notice more "we're superior" comments from PC fans, than I do from Mac fans. :idk:

Oh? Opposite on my end, particularly working with the Mac people that I've supported.

Homeslice
02-22-2009, 04:54 PM
:zowned:


Oh? Opposite on my end, particularly working with the Mac people that I've supported.

It's like every time Macs come up in a thread, PC fanboyz start bragging about how skilled they are at building & fixing their own PC, and that Mac owners are either too lazy to build their own, or just bought it because it was trendy.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 04:57 PM
You know the funny thing is, I notice more "we're superior" comments from PC fans, than I do from Mac fans. :idk:

I hear the opposite.

James

Flexin
02-22-2009, 05:02 PM
It's like every time Macs come up in a thread, PC fanboyz start bragging about how skilled they are at building & fixing their own PC, and that Mac owners are either too lazy to build their own, or just bought it because it was trendy.

And when someone has a problem with a pc someone comes in with how great Macs are.

James

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 05:07 PM
It's like every time Macs come up in a thread, PC fanboyz start bragging about how skilled they are at building & fixing their own PC, and that Mac owners are either too lazy to build their own, or just bought it because it was trendy.

Oh? then what about the Apple=Winz comment? Double standard, clearly.

I think a lot of it is due to trends..... I don't know about ya'll but when I was going thru school all I used were Mac's until high school... Mac's have really gotten a lot of support in home computers w/ the emergence of the iPod and then later the iPhone, it increased their market share and public visibility.


I wouldn't say people buy Mac's because they're too lazy to build their own. I build my own because I know what *I* want to put in it and it's cheaper than buying a prebundled higher-end package from say Dell or HP. I also personally enjoy it.

Sides, most people now-a-days just use their PC's to connect to the net and browse the web. If you find a graphics or video person, they will tend to have a Mac (they process the information faster, simply put). Gamers and more "power users" you'll find on PC's because they are just more well known, there's more software applications available in general.

So what would you say I am? a "PC Fan Boy" because I posted the Penny Arcade strip? Nah, I'd say I'm more of a realist, everything has it's own application.

And when someone has a problem with a pc someone comes in with how great Macs are.

James

Precisely.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 05:20 PM
Oh? then what about the Apple=Winz comment? Double standard, clearly.

I think a lot of it is due to trends..... I don't know about ya'll but when I was going thru school all I used were Mac's until high school... Mac's have really gotten a lot of support in home computers w/ the emergence of the iPod and then later the iPhone, it increased their market share and public visibility.


I wouldn't say people buy Mac's because they're too lazy to build their own. I build my own because I know what *I* want to put in it and it's cheaper than buying a prebundled higher-end package from say Dell or HP. I also personally enjoy it.

Sides, most people now-a-days just use their PC's to connect to the net and browse the web. If you find a graphics or video person, they will tend to have a Mac (they process the information faster, simply put). Gamers and more "power users" you'll find on PC's because they are just more well known, there's more software applications available in general.

So what would you say I am? a "PC Fan Boy" because I posted the Penny Arcade strip? Nah, I'd say I'm more of a realist, everything has it's own application.



Precisely.

I have a friend that is a photographer and he uses a mac. From anything I have read is if you want high end photo or video work you want a Mac over a pic. From there you go to $$$$$ rigs.

I have always heard that Macs have better color for photo editing as well.

A buddy of mine bought a Mac at least 5 years ago I think because he was getting tired of problems with his pc and he knew a guy that was telling him to get a mac. I'm pretty sure he ran in problems a year or so later. I can't remember right now.

My cousin has a Mac laptop and he uses it with his DJ rig. But for some reason I think he won it.

When I worked at Costco we got in one of those blue and clear I macs or what ever they were. I set up the system when they came in and I played around with it. I just couldn't get into it. Those systems had that single button mouse that drove me crazy.

When I went to get this laptop last year the price stopped me from even glancing at the Imac.

I'm not saying they are bad computers but they are not for everyone.

James
James

Homeslice
02-22-2009, 05:21 PM
Oh? then what about the Apple=Winz comment? Double standard, clearly.


I didn't post that. But it's no different than every time someone posts about an iPod or iPhone, someone has to chime in saying Apple is the devil, and that they should have bought a non-Apple device.

I honestly think some people have a hidden inferiority complex about Apple. Either that, or maybe they're just the type of people who always look down on anything popular. It's like they always want to pat themselves on the back for not falling for the hype.

Anyway, this is off-topic so I'll stop.

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 05:25 PM
I have a friend that is a photographer and he uses a mac. From anything I have read is if you want high end photo or video work you want a Mac over a pic. From there you go to $$$$$ rigs.

I have always heard that Macs have better color for photo editing as well.

A buddy of mine bought a Mac at least 5 years ago I think because he was getting tired of problems with his pc and he knew a guy that was telling him to get a mac. I'm pretty sure he ran in problems a year or so later. I can't remember right now.

My cousin has a Mac laptop and he uses it with his DJ rig. But for some reason I think he won it.

When I worked at Costco we got in one of those blue and clear I macs or what ever they were. I set up the system when they came in and I played around with it. I just couldn't get into it. Those systems had that single button mouse that drove me crazy.

When I went to get this laptop last year the price stopped me from even glancing at the Imac.

I'm not saying they are bad computers but they are not for everyone.

James
James

When it comes to "color" there's a lot of things to take in to understand the context, Your best "color" will actually come from a CRT, not a LCD or what-not. But then you need to calibrate it, which is when you tend to use calibration programs like Spyder and what-not.


I agree w/ your statement, they're not for everyone, like a PC isn't for everyone.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 05:34 PM
I didn't post that. But it's no different than every time someone posts about an iPod or iPhone, someone has to chime in saying Apple is the devil, and that they should have bought a non-Apple device.

I honestly think some people have a hidden inferiority complex about Apple. Either that, or maybe they're just the type of people who always look down on anything popular. It's like they always want to pat themselves on the back for not falling for the hype.

I'm one of the people that are not a fan of Ipods. I don't tell people that they shouldn't buy one. I just done run to Ipod when I'm told about how great they are.

Its just like Honda. I get a kick out of how people think they are great no matter what because of the label on it.

Hondas are good cars but they are not perfect.

Ipods are good. I have tried some. I don't think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think the price is high on them. If they were priced better I would think about them. The only time I have ever wanted an I pod was a couple of months ago when i realized my stereo works with Ipods.

While we are talking about I pods. Will one with a bad battery still play when hooked up to another player? If the can I wouldn't mind having one with a shot battery so I could load it up, hook it to my stereo in the machine and then hide the I pod. Then I would just need to press a button and I would have a pile of music there. That set up might be easier for my step father to use as well. I just plug my Zen into the front of it and I'm good to go.

I also tried my sisters I phone. Its not bad but its not for me.

I don't see the I mac laptops are a pain in the ass for me. Once again the price is a problem. But I also haven't liked any of the operating systems on them so even if the price was equal I wouldn't want one.

James

Dave
02-22-2009, 06:21 PM
#1 penny arcade rocks.

#2 for the op, does your work lappy have a little tit/switch to tell the computer that the screen is closed? if so a lot of times from the computer moving around in your bag those switches will fire the laptop back up. filing the nipple off should fix the problem completely

Homeslice
02-22-2009, 06:47 PM
#1 penny arcade rocks.

#2 for the op, does your work lappy have a little tit/switch to tell the computer that the screen is closed? if so a lot of times from the computer moving around in your bag those switches will fire the laptop back up. filing the nipple off should fix the problem completely

I don't see any nipples or buttons, so I don't know how it detects that the screen is closed. Maybe there's a sensor built into the hinges.

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 07:23 PM
I don't see any nipples or buttons, so I don't know how it detects that the screen is closed. Maybe there's a sensor built into the hinges.

go into control pannel and power ooptions


you should be able to set the hibernate/sleep options to soomething else.

I for instance, sometimes have my laptop hooked up to my 24" monitor, so closing the lid and sending it tos leep/hibernate isn't an option. I actually have the hibernate button set to my power button (quick hit of the power button means hibernate, if i hold it down it'll turn off, for shutdown, i just use the start menu).

That should tell you if the issue is w/ a mechanical switch (ie, nipple/trigger on your screen closing) or something w/ your operating system (ie an update may have flawed the .dll's associated w/ the hibernate/shutdown process).

Give that test a try to see what you come up with.




And yes, penny arcade is the shit.

Lamnidae
02-22-2009, 07:24 PM
I'm one of the people that are not a fan of Ipods. I don't tell people that they shouldn't buy one. I just done run to Ipod when I'm told about how great they are.

Its just like Honda. I get a kick out of how people think they are great no matter what because of the label on it.

Hondas are good cars but they are not perfect.

Ipods are good. I have tried some. I don't think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think the price is high on them. If they were priced better I would think about them. The only time I have ever wanted an I pod was a couple of months ago when i realized my stereo works with Ipods.

While we are talking about I pods. Will one with a bad battery still play when hooked up to another player? If the can I wouldn't mind having one with a shot battery so I could load it up, hook it to my stereo in the machine and then hide the I pod. Then I would just need to press a button and I would have a pile of music there. That set up might be easier for my step father to use as well. I just plug my Zen into the front of it and I'm good to go.

I also tried my sisters I phone. Its not bad but its not for me.

I don't see the I mac laptops are a pain in the ass for me. Once again the price is a problem. But I also haven't liked any of the operating systems on them so even if the price was equal I wouldn't want one.

James

not sure if i'm reading your post right or not....

You need a power source to the ipod for it tow ork if it has a bum battery, the mini-plug (where your headphones plug into) isn't going to power an ipod if it's plugged into another device. I think that's where you were going w/ that

Flexin
02-22-2009, 07:42 PM
not sure if i'm reading your post right or not....

You need a power source to the ipod for it tow ork if it has a bum battery, the mini-plug (where your headphones plug into) isn't going to power an ipod if it's plugged into another device. I think that's where you were going w/ that

Nope. I have an excavator. In that excavator is a stereo just like a car. Only they call it heavy duty and charge more for it. It has IPod control in the deck so if you hook up on you can use the stereo controls to change tracks and so on. It will also do this for Sat radio. It has a aux in port as well which I plug my mp3 player into. But when I do that I have to use the mp3 player controls. Thats fine for me but my stepfather wouldn't use.

What I'm wondering is if I use an ipod cable to connect to the stereo will this provide power to the Ipod as well. I think it should. I'm just wondering if Ipod with a bad battery could still be loaded while hooked to a computer then used once its hooked to something with its own power?

James

Smittie61984
02-22-2009, 07:57 PM
I'll buy anything shiny and made by apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s

I'm waiting for IBM to come back.

I know little about computers. I just listen to my fellow nerd friends. Most said for someone like me who uses the computer for IM, forums, porn, research, and porn that an HP is okay but recommended to me to spend the extra cash on a Toshiba. That's what I got and I couldn't be happier. They also said that if I was into gaming it would be the suck.

They also said they'd like to see how well a Toshiba would stand up to me. I'm extremely abusive with electronics. I couldn't tell you how many times my Gateway fell to the floor, plus I've destroyed 4 Mp3 players in the 1 year I owned one. Sadly the only thing to go wrong with the Gateway besides me finding some super crazy virus (That I got fixed after weeks of PITA procedures) was the lalptop jack went to hell. It lasted right at 2years for me.

In the two months I have owned this Toshiba it has hit the floor roughly 3-4 times.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
I'll buy anything shiny and made by apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s

I'm waiting for IBM to come back.

I know little about computers. I just listen to my fellow nerd friends. Most said for someone like me who uses the computer for IM, forums, porn, research, and porn that an HP is okay but recommended to me to spend the extra cash on a Toshiba. That's what I got and I couldn't be happier. They also said that if I was into gaming it would be the suck.

They also said they'd like to see how well a Toshiba would stand up to me. I'm extremely abusive with electronics. I couldn't tell you how many times my Gateway fell to the floor, plus I've destroyed 4 Mp3 players in the 1 year I owned one. Sadly the only thing to go wrong with the Gateway besides me finding some super crazy virus (That I got fixed after weeks of PITA procedures) was the lalptop jack went to hell. It lasted right at 2years for me.

In the two months I have owned this Toshiba it has hit the floor roughly 3-4 times.

You need to leave the laptop on the floor and use it there butter fingers.

If that Toshiba doesn't work out for you then you might need to look at the Panasonic Toughbook.

Damn your hard on the gear. How did you destroy 4 mp3 players?

James

Smittie61984
02-22-2009, 08:27 PM
You need to leave the laptop on the floor and use it there butter fingers.

If that Toshiba doesn't work out for you then you might need to look at the Panasonic Toughbook.

Damn your hard on the gear. How did you destroy 4 mp3 players?

James

I've also gone through 12 cell phones.

I'm just rough on anything.

I destroyed my 1st MP3 player from dropping it a few times out of my pockets. It was a Creative. Then a final drop at my gym did it in (bitch fell on a foam mat too. Ain't that some shit???). Other MP3 player was a RCA that was designed for "The active lifestyle". Left it in my pocket while mountain biking and something caused it to fuck up. Then I got another RCA just like the old one. Put the wrist band on my jacket while riding my motorcycle. About 70mph I reached to put my visor down and it popped off to be ran over by a car. 3rd one drowned in a creek when I crashed my mountain bike. 4th one is still useable and an RCA like the one before. For it to play music in both ears the earplug thingy needs to be pulled out some.

My 12cell phones died a lot from being in my pocket while moving pool tables. It'd end up with me having slate sitting on it and just general abuse. And a few of them drowned in a pool. One met a brick wall with extreme force.

My dog knocked my laptop off my bed while I was doing some homework on my desk. Or I'd be grabbing it from my chair that is next to my bed and since it was morning and I'm about as concious as a zombie I dropped it there. Another time I had my bookbag knocked off my desk and it hit the floor. That's with the Toshiba

I'm also on my 4th digital camera. 1st one's flash bulb went out and replaced by the exact same one to have the flash bulb go out again. 2nd one drowned in a river while kayaking. 3rd one was a Sony Cybershot (SUper skinny one) that had the slider part break making the camera think the lense was always on. I fixed it with a blob of solder and now the back screen is all tore up. I have a waterproof shockproof Olympus that is still going strong (I recommend highly).

Honestly if you can make something than can last me. You built some good quality shit.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 08:36 PM
I've also gone through 12 cell phones.

I'm just rough on anything.

I destroyed my 1st MP3 player from dropping it a few times out of my pockets. It was a Creative. Then a final drop at my gym did it in (bitch fell on a foam mat too. Ain't that some shit???). Other MP3 player was a RCA that was designed for "The active lifestyle". Left it in my pocket while mountain biking and something caused it to fuck up. Then I got another RCA just like the old one. Put the wrist band on my jacket while riding my motorcycle. About 70mph I reached to put my visor down and it popped off to be ran over by a car. 3rd one drowned in a creek when I crashed my mountain bike. 4th one is still useable and an RCA like the one before. For it to play music in both ears the earplug thingy needs to be pulled out some.

My 12cell phones died a lot from being in my pocket while moving pool tables. It'd end up with me having slate sitting on it and just general abuse. And a few of them drowned in a pool. One met a brick wall with extreme force.

My dog knocked my laptop off my bed while I was doing some homework on my desk. Or I'd be grabbing it from my chair that is next to my bed and since it was morning and I'm about as concious as a zombie I dropped it there. Another time I had my bookbag knocked off my desk and it hit the floor. That's with the Toshiba

I'm also on my 4th digital camera. 1st one's flash bulb went out and replaced by the exact same one to have the flash bulb go out again. 2nd one drowned in a river while kayaking. 3rd one was a Sony Cybershot (SUper skinny one) that had the slider part break making the camera think the lense was always on. I fixed it with a blob of solder and now the back screen is all tore up. I have a waterproof shockproof Olympus that is still going strong (I recommend highly).

Honestly if you can make something than can last me. You built some good quality shit.

Damn I hope you have Bill Gates bank roll.

You sound a lot like my brother. He can break or lose anything.

Me I am easy on most of my gear. I did have a bit of a bad run with a couple of cell phones. I would get pissed off at the person I was talking to and then punch my phone. :panic: I also threw that same phone against the wall for the same reason. That Nokia was a tough phone.

I'm glad I got that out of my system years ago before getting into more expensive phones. :lol:

James

askmrjesus
02-22-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm not saying they are bad computers but they are not for everyone.

James
James

True, if you want the auto-double name function, PC is the way to go.

JC
JC

rogue
02-22-2009, 08:50 PM
True, if you want the auto-double name function, PC is the way to go.

JC
JC

:lmao:

:lmao:

Flexin
02-22-2009, 08:57 PM
True, if you want the auto-double name function, PC is the way to go.

JC
JC

Fucker. :lol:

A name so nice you say it twice.

James

Flexin
02-22-2009, 09:04 PM
BTW I used to get a kick out of the mac users talking about how they "CAN'T" get a virus. I always said it was only because no one used them so they didn't care enough to fuck them up.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/117188

Macs hit with BitTorrent-embedded malware attack

For years, Mac users have long been rightfully smug about their platform's relative immunity to virus and malware attacks, but it's inevitable that those days will eventually come to an end. (As the Mac gains in popularity, it also earns more attention from malware developers, and it's this lack of malware being actively developed, not some special, inherent security, that have really kept the Mac a "safe" platform for the time being.)

Now we're seeing one of the first moderately-sized exploits to take advantage of Mac users. The iServices.A Trojan horse is an attack being distributed via BitTorrent, where it's disguised as a bootleg copy of the new iWork 09. Once installed, the malware takes administrator access and connects to remote servers over the Internet, where it can be given additional instructions as the author commands, from installing additional malware to stealing information off the Mac in question. The malware creator can also take complete remote control of any compromised machine.

Security firm Intego said that just 20,000 machines had been infected as of January 21 but that the risk of ongoing infection was "serious, and users may face extremely serious consequences" if they are stricken with the malware.

Mac users are suggested to use common sense -- that is, don't try to download and installed pirated software -- and to update any antivirus definitions immediately. If you're a Mac user and aren't using security software, well, this might be a good time to start.

As well, if you've been hit by this piece of malware, a removal tool is available here. (Please note: I have not tested it.)

James

pauldun170
02-22-2009, 09:17 PM
Almost 2 years with a HP DV9207us and Vista.

Works fine. Installed\uninstalled a bajillion things apps and games. Used it as a media center, game machine, Linux check er out er,hotspot finder development box etc etc.

Still going. Only problem I had was when I used normal Nvidia drivers vs Nvidia drivers from HP

Smittie61984
02-22-2009, 09:17 PM
Damn I hope you have Bill Gates bank roll.

You sound a lot like my brother. He can break or lose anything.

Me I am easy on most of my gear. I did have a bit of a bad run with a couple of cell phones. I would get pissed off at the person I was talking to and then punch my phone. :panic: I also threw that same phone against the wall for the same reason. That Nokia was a tough phone.

I'm glad I got that out of my system years ago before getting into more expensive phones. :lol:

James

I think Bill Gates has his bank roll because of me.

Somehow I manage to keep shirts for years on end. I still wear shirts from the 8th grade. I destroy jeans quick though.

Flexin
02-22-2009, 09:34 PM
I think Bill Gates has his bank roll because of me.

Somehow I manage to keep shirts for years on end. I still wear shirts from the 8th grade. I destroy jeans quick though.

:lol: I still have a Micheal Jordan tank top that I bought myself in grade 7 I believe. I was so proud of myself. Walked into the mall, pointed to the Air Jordans on the top shelf (I couldn't reach the display) and paid $200 cash for them. Then went upstairs and bought a $40 tank top and a bunch of other items. I was so proud of the fact that I bought all my own school clothes that year.

So if you can get a water proof mp3 player and attach it to your t shirt it might just have a chance.

James

SteveP
02-23-2009, 03:57 AM
Oh? then what about the Apple=Winz comment? Double standard, clearly.



Take a deep breath and reread the title of this thread. Maybe the comment will make more sense to you then.

And BTW, my MacBook DOES still work perfectly. Just sayin.

Lamnidae
02-23-2009, 07:28 AM
Take a deep breath and reread the title of this thread. Maybe the comment will make more sense to you then.

And BTW, my MacBook DOES still work perfectly. Just sayin.

The title of this thread is HP laptops.


I read it clearly. The person coming up w/ the Apple=Winz was you. The previous discussion was mostly HP hardware/support based. I just posted a cartoon and then someone tried to flame me. :dthumb: Good job.


Don't hate cause the Mac lovers got called out on a double standard.


I'm happy you love your Mac. :dthumb: Good job there, killer.

Lamnidae
02-23-2009, 07:30 AM
Nope. I have an excavator....

What I'm wondering is if I use an ipod cable to connect to the stereo will this provide power to the Ipod as well. I think it should. I'm just wondering if Ipod with a bad battery could still be loaded while hooked to a computer then used once its hooked to something with its own power?

James

Ummm, if it's suppling control inputs to the system and says that it'll charge it, yeah that should work w/o issue.


It's not RAM, your'e writing to something that will retain memory. Your songs don't go away when the iPod's juice is drained. So I'd say you'd be good, as long as what you've got it plugged into will support power to the device.

Papa_Complex
02-23-2009, 08:44 AM
BTW I used to get a kick out of the mac users talking about how they "CAN'T" get a virus. I always said it was only because no one used them so they didn't care enough to fuck them up.

And you were right in saying so. It never was that they couldn't get a virus. It was that only a small handful of people were bothering to write them. Without a user base, there can't be propagation of a virus. Perhaps now people are actually realizing that Apple is no less an evil empire than Microsoft? They just can't use the designation, for reasons of copyright.

Avatard
02-23-2009, 10:54 AM
Loving all this Mac vs. PC shit. They both suck....lulz.

I have a Macbook, and it boots XP by default. The fucking "geniuses" at the Genius bar just fucking LOVE that.

The new Macs happen to be the best (opinion) and fastest (as tested, by PC Magazine) Intel compatible Windows laptops on the market. Yes, you read that right.

The fact that they can also run a native OS that's ostensibly better, more stable, and and easier to use is just a perk.

Me?...I still run Windows because, like an old Chevy, you can get under the hood and fuck with it...and sadly, being an old fart, that's what I'm used to...but I'm not oblivious to the fact that the Mac is better, I'm just not as used to it.

The fact remains that if you want a relatively trouble-free computer, and you just use it for mainstream shit, almost everything you'll need is available for the Mac...and perhaps much more like a fucking appliance, it just WORKS (most of the time)...but really; it's all relative, and when I say "It works" it works well...for a computer. The truth is; they all suck. Debating which computer is better is like arguing what type of spoon I wanna dig my eyes out with. My network has about the same number of Macs and PCs on it.

There USED to be less viral shit for Mac, but people write for the masses, and since Apple sells more Laptops than anyone nowadays, and since most new computers bought are laptops, their market share is going up, and so is the virus load.

Artists, musicians, scientists, researchers, and CEOs have always had Macs. The pleebs in the stenopool have always had PCs, and the corner office has always had a Mac. This oughtta tell you SOMETHING. The disparity in price is almost all but erased now that they're Intel-based, and are made from standard PC components. Arguing that Macs are inferior is pretty fucking stupid.

You can argue stupid shit like which system is better...but obviously the COMPUTER that runs BOTH (and Linux), is the one to choose, since it makes that argument moot.

Finally...regarding my personal computer hell; I've been using Protools on Mac in the Studio since it was called SOUND TOOLS, but I just purchased a 24-track IZ RADAR system, and look forward to turning the motherfucking computer OFF, and just making music again.

YMMV

EDIT: Oh, and since the OT is HP Laptops, let me say THIS about THAT...

I have an HP Lappy I got about a year ago:

This machine is patently unable to record digital audio without snaps, crackles, and pops regardless of interface type used.

It is, to me, completely and utterly worthless, HP has zero clues, and I'm out almost a grand...

Papa_Complex
02-23-2009, 11:12 AM
'Tard, you're right that the fastest Windows NBs out there are Macs. At least it was true, when various mags ran benchmarks on earlier Vista based notebooks when it forst came out. Bit of a pain with the single button mouse though, and I don't know any Mac users on campus who aren't using an external mouse at this point.

As to the corner office, it always has a status symbol. At one point that would have been a Mac but these days it tends more to be a media PC in a nice black case, a sub-notebook that is virtually useless (doesn't matter when your secretary is even answering your email), or a tablet PC (same-same). Oh, then there are the Sony Viao TV-type desktops. Crap.

Homeslice
02-23-2009, 11:27 AM
Artists, musicians, scientists, researchers, and CEOs have always had Macs.

But, but......it must be because they're elitists who fell for the hype. :rolleyes:

Avatard
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
Bit of a pain with the single button mouse though, and I don't know any Mac users on campus who aren't using an external mouse at this point.

You must not be aware of the new touchpad. It's gesture sensitive.

One finger moves pointer, two fingers dragged scrolls page.

One finger and click is selection, two fingers and click is right-click (context-sensitive menu).

It's totally intuitive, and becomes second nature in under 3 minutes.

They nailed it.

Other gestures are coming over from the iPod touch, like pinch and stretch on the newest models.

As much as I am a devout rodent pilot, the touchpad is fucking smoking.

BTW; they were nice enough to even write Win drivers for it in Bootcamp.

the chi
02-23-2009, 11:57 AM
:lol: For the first time ever, 'Tard and I are in agreement! When my PC laptop takes a crap, which its trying to do currently, I am getting MAC. But I'll also be using windows, simply because I KNOW how to do everything on it and until I get comfy with all the MAC stuff, I need to function.

But, alot of my time will be spent with pictures and editing images for my different hobbies and I know the MAC hands down is better for what I need than my PC is. Im getting one because it meets my needs, and for what I want is superior, not simply because its a MAC tho...:idk:

Dave
02-23-2009, 12:15 PM
And you were right in saying so. It never was that they couldn't get a virus. It was that only a small handful of people were bothering to write them. Without a user base, there can't be propagation of a virus. Perhaps now people are actually realizing that Apple is no less an evil empire than Microsoft? They just can't use the designation, for reasons of copyright.

if anything they are worse, i LIKE third party

Papa_Complex
02-23-2009, 12:36 PM
You must not be aware of the new touchpad. It's gesture sensitive.

One finger moves pointer, two fingers dragged scrolls page.

One finger and click is selection, two fingers and click is right-click (context-sensitive menu).

It's totally intuitive, and becomes second nature in under 3 minutes.

They nailed it.

Other gestures are coming over from the iPod touch, like pinch and stretch on the newest models.

As much as I am a devout rodent pilot, the touchpad is fucking smoking.

BTW; they were nice enough to even write Win drivers for it in Bootcamp.

Nope, I wasn't aware of that. My level of support for Macs generally stops at basic network connectivity. That sounds far more like a technology that would be useful on tablets than a tiny touchpad though.

Avatard
02-23-2009, 12:40 PM
Nope, I wasn't aware of that. My level of support for Macs generally stops at basic network connectivity. That sounds far more like a technology that would be useful on tablets than a tiny touchpad though.

You'd be surprised. The gestures have already begun to be copied by some PC manufacturers. The Asus Netbook (running XP) that I got for my GF does two finger scroll.

Papa_Complex
02-23-2009, 12:43 PM
You'd be surprised. The gestures have already begun to be copied by some PC manufacturers. The Asus Netbook (running XP) that I got for my GF does two finger scroll.

Not really all that surprised, as the first place that I saw the gestures widely used outside of a touch-phone was by the Evil Empire ©. I thought that it would be pretty handy for photo editing, once I got the hang of it.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q2.07/BE8D0C58-313E-453E-9E8B-D443BE6E1DDE.html

Flexin
02-23-2009, 12:51 PM
My brother and soon to be brother in law were talking about computers when we all got together last weekend. They we talking about not buying another laptop. They said that they would get a netbook next time. They don't see the need for a full computer to drag around if they are not playing games on them. And we all have more then one computer.

James

Lamnidae
02-23-2009, 07:17 PM
But, alot of my time will be spent with pictures and editing images for my different hobbies and I know the MAC hands down is better for what I need than my PC is. Im getting one because it meets my needs, and for what I want is superior, not simply because its a MAC tho...:idk:

Rae, once again you're just flat out awesome.

You'd be surprised. The gestures have already begun to be copied by some PC manufacturers. The Asus Netbook (running XP) that I got for my GF does two finger scroll.

That's quite interesting....

the chi
02-23-2009, 10:01 PM
Rae, once again you're just flat out awesome.



That's quite interesting....

Why thank ya hun, tho why escapes me currently...:lol:

snaps
02-24-2009, 02:24 AM
without snaps, crackles, and pops regardless of interface type used


Don't worry, I'm around. And that's 1/3 at least :)

lol

Lamnidae
02-24-2009, 06:20 AM
Why thank ya hun, tho why escapes me currently...:lol:

"i'm getting one because it meets my needs."


Not because it's flashy or whatever, or a fad (let's face it, you w/ fads, i can't see that).....


So how's your photography coming along?

the chi
02-24-2009, 10:35 AM
"i'm getting one because it meets my needs."


Not because it's flashy or whatever, or a fad (let's face it, you w/ fads, i can't see that).....


So how's your photography coming along?


:lol: Okay, gotcha. Sadly I did fall prey to a fad, the Iphone, but does it count in my favor that I got it like 2 years after it came out?? :wink:

Its, um, going. *sigh* Ive been so busy that I havent had much time to devote to it, but this past weekend I went out and shot about 500 pics of diesel trucks drag racing, about 1/2 were awesome! Got some killer sequenced shots that are look like they are moving when you go through them as well as some great still shots, including an alcohol rail, got it sequenced almost the entire 3 seconds it was flying by! My technique is improving at least.

Im exploring different types of shooting, mainly focusing on action so I can get better at track shots, but I constantly carry at least one camera around and I'll take a pic of anything that catches my attention (which if you remember isnt hard) :lol:. I find myself overwhelmed at all the different technical crap to keep up with tho the creative part I have no issue with.

But now my darn laptop can't do what I want, and the pics are never the same when printed as they are onscreen so my editing is sucking mostly due to crappy laptop stuff. Thus my interest in MAC for that...

Papa_Complex
02-24-2009, 10:42 AM
What are you using, camera-wise?

(Screw the damned Mac stuff)

Rider
02-24-2009, 10:44 AM
My work computer is a HP lappy. Just over 2 years old and I've never had any issues with it. Its plenty fast and reliable. The only complaint I have is occasionally the secondary monitor that I have connected to it(19" widescreen LCD) will flicker from time to time while the display on the laptop doesn't do this. It's nice to use 2 monitors though so you can have have 100 applications open at once.

the chi
02-24-2009, 11:10 AM
What are you using, camera-wise?

(Screw the damned Mac stuff)

Cannon Rebel XT, with the standard 18-55mm and a 70-300mm lens, no fancy stuff yet...

Papa_Complex
02-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Cannon Rebel XT, with the standard 18-55mm and a 70-300mm lens, no fancy stuff yet...

You don't need fancy stuff, if what you have does the job and if you've got the skill. I started out in track photography with a 10X zoom, 4MPix point & shoot. I'm just having fun now with a 10 MPix DSLR and high-zoot lenses.

the chi
02-24-2009, 11:31 AM
You don't need fancy stuff, if what you have does the job and if you've got the skill. I started out in track photography with a 10X zoom, 4MPix point & shoot. I'm just having fun now with a 10 MPix DSLR and high-zoot lenses.

Yeah Ive found that right now its still more camera than I need, but I get excited about improving my skills. I try to catch up with the photogs at track days and pick their brains, now I just need to keep practicing! I dont see myself getting anything bigger and better tho, kinda like my bike, it can do way more than I can make it do!

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 06:29 AM
You don't need fancy stuff, if what you have does the job and if you've got the skill. I started out in track photography with a 10X zoom, 4MPix point & shoot. I'm just having fun now with a 10 MPix DSLR and high-zoot lenses.

Yeah Ive found that right now its still more camera than I need, but I get excited about improving my skills. I try to catch up with the photogs at track days and pick their brains, now I just need to keep practicing! I dont see myself getting anything bigger and better tho, kinda like my bike, it can do way more than I can make it do!

Some fantastic advice......


Kinda like a conversation went w/ a photographer friend of mine while I was living in the Marshall Islands....


Photographer is there, and this other person came up, showing off their brand new Canon 20D, telling her how much better her pictures are going to be.

Politely after the second person left, she made the comment "Just because you buy yourself a fancy guitar, it doesn't make you Jimmi Fucking Hendrix."



Very true words, right there.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 06:32 AM
But now my darn laptop can't do what I want, and the pics are never the same when printed as they are onscreen so my editing is sucking mostly due to crappy laptop stuff. Thus my interest in MAC for that...

Common misconception, what you see isn't always what you get.

You need to calibrate, dear....

http://spyder.datacolor.com/


One of the bests, and they've been around a while.....Worth the $$$ if your'e looking at keeping up w/ this.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 06:36 AM
I'm personally looking to upgrade to the Canon 5D MkII.


Course that's probably gonna be about a year or so from now, maybe I can find a nice used one then...


$2700 is some change to put down on just a hobby. I've been giving more and more thought however, to going semi-pro and doing some pay work on the side/weekends, I think I'm finally at that step... but I don't think I could ever see it being a full-time profession for me, the work just isn't stable enough IMHO, and I've got a solid F/T career as it is.

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 06:45 AM
Common misconception, what you see isn't always what you get.

You need to calibrate, dear....

http://spyder.datacolor.com/


One of the bests, and they've been around a while.....Worth the $$$ if your'e looking at keeping up w/ this.

In my circles the experience tends to involve people being complimented on their pictures, then being told that they must have a great camera. Funny that cooks are never complimented, then told that they must have a great stove.

I need to toss my Spyder2Express and pick up a pro, so that I can calibrate BOTH my monitors.

This season I'll be working with an Olympus E-3 and an E-30, both with grips.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 06:51 AM
In my circles the experience tends to involve people being complimented on their pictures, then being told that they must have a great camera. Funny that cooks are never complimented, then told that they must have a great stove.

I need to toss my Spyder2Express and pick up a pro, so that I can calibrate BOTH my monitors.

lmao.

That's an amazing analogy.


It just comes down to people don't understand photography, so they must think bigger/better/faster/more expensive. Not always true.


Gah. reminds me, I need to pick up my AE-1 from the house in Calvert next time I'm going back thru Texas.

Sauron
02-25-2009, 04:10 PM
BTW I used to get a kick out of the mac users talking about how they "CAN'T" get a virus. I always said it was only because no one used them so they didn't care enough to fuck them up.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/117188

Macs hit with BitTorrent-embedded malware attack


That's not technically a virus, that's a Trojan. Which is just like a lot of Windows Trojans. You had to specifically Grant it permission to install.

All of the OSX Malware to date have been trojans. The mac "viruses" that are in most Av programs are/were actually for the older OS (IE, System 6-9).

Simple Free OSX antivirus software: http://www.iantivirus.com/

And for the record, I'm not really a Windows, or Mac or Linux specific person. I use all three as well as Solaris everyday for different purposes. But then I'm also one of those people that has 3 Desktop PC's and 2 laptops at my house...

Mark

the chi
02-25-2009, 04:13 PM
Common misconception, what you see isn't always what you get.

You need to calibrate, dear....

http://spyder.datacolor.com/


One of the bests, and they've been around a while.....Worth the $$$ if your'e looking at keeping up w/ this.


Sweet, thank you. I know there are things I can do myself to the current laptop, Im just not savvy enough to have a clue!

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 06:36 PM
That's not technically a virus, that's a Trojan. Which is just like a lot of Windows Trojans. You had to specifically Grant it permission to install.

All of the OSX Malware to date have been trojans. The mac "viruses" that are in most Av programs are/were actually for the older OS (IE, System 6-9).

Simple Free OSX antivirus software: http://www.iantivirus.com/

And for the record, I'm not really a Windows, or Mac or Linux specific person. I use all three as well as Solaris everyday for different purposes. But then I'm also one of those people that has 3 Desktop PC's and 2 laptops at my house...

Mark

I've got you beat by one desktop and you've got me by one laptop. So do we start counting NAS boxes to break the tie? :lol:

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 06:46 PM
I've got you beat by one desktop and you've got me by one laptop. So do we start counting NAS boxes to break the tie? :lol:

Does functioning POC's count? bwahahah


I'm putting my new Intel i7 core beast together tonight.... it'll be running in a couple hours, might even suprise myself by installing the OS tonight.

oh. 3 laptops.
2 PC's, (1 which currently does not turn on, blown Power supply and mobo, poor shuttle, it lived a long, lan party filled life) but going to be up by one tonight w/ the i7 being finished.

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 06:50 PM
Only if you want me to start counting the systems that aren't in current use too :lol:

rogue
02-25-2009, 06:54 PM
Hah! I'm just happy & thankful I have 2 working computers! :lol:

Not meaning to hijack the thread but do any of you know how to run Vista Home Edition as Administrator? I've been told it can't be done & that's why Vista Home sucks.... :scratch:

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 07:03 PM
The account that you create during installation is effectively the administrator. If you're talking about getting rid of that bllody painful constant prompt whenever you do any admin function, then you get rid of it by turning off "User Account Control" in the Users section of Control Panel. It might just save you from doing something stupid if it's running though, because it gives you a second shot at figuring out if you REALLY want to do something.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 08:11 PM
The account that you create during installation is effectively the administrator. If you're talking about getting rid of that bllody painful constant prompt whenever you do any admin function, then you get rid of it by turning off "User Account Control" in the Users section of Control Panel. It might just save you from doing something stupid if it's running though, because it gives you a second shot at figuring out if you REALLY want to do something.

*shrugs* I know what the hell I'm doing, but i still leave it on.....

Saved me from overinstalling on top of something once. *shrugs* Even us pro's f'k up sometimes.

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 08:24 PM
*shrugs* I know what the hell I'm doing, but i still leave it on.....

Saved me from overinstalling on top of something once. *shrugs* Even us pro's f'k up sometimes.

It blocks script execution prior to login completion, which sucks monkey balls if you're trying to force-feed drive mappings and network printers in AD.

rogue
02-25-2009, 08:27 PM
The account that you create during installation is effectively the administrator. If you're talking about getting rid of that bllody painful constant prompt whenever you do any admin function, then you get rid of it by turning off "User Account Control" in the Users section of Control Panel. It might just save you from doing something stupid if it's running though, because it gives you a second shot at figuring out if you REALLY want to do something.

I've had a prompt or two say I had to be in administrator mode to make changes. I can't remember what they were at the moment.

I was under the impression that the main user account WAS the administrative account.. :idk:

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 08:29 PM
I've had a prompt or two say I had to be in administrator mode to make changes. I can't remember what they were at the moment.

I was under the impression that the main user account WAS the administrative account.. :idk:

It is. As usual, Microsoft's wording conventions aren't the best. You know, like having to go into the "START" menu in order to "SHUTDOWN".

rogue
02-25-2009, 08:34 PM
It is. As usual, Microsoft's wording conventions aren't the best. You know, like having to go into the "START" menu in order to "SHUTDOWN".

:rofl:

I didn't think about that. My favorite is still Windows 95 when the keyboard isn't connected. "keyboard not found. Hit any key to continue". The computer we kept all the up/download software on for the security panels was on a Win 95 computer. One of my favorite things to do to one of the techs that got on my nerves was to unplug the keyboard before he got there. :lol: Almost everytime he'd automatically hit a key then realize I had unplugged it again...or someone did. :whistle: Of course, I took the time to twist the keyboard wire around other wires to make a jumbled mess. :devil:

Don't piss me off :whistle:

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 08:49 PM
It blocks script execution prior to login completion, which sucks monkey balls if you're trying to force-feed drive mappings and network printers in AD.

wtf? even through a GPO based script?

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 08:58 PM
:rofl:

I didn't think about that. My favorite is still Windows 95 when the keyboard isn't connected. "keyboard not found. Hit any key to continue".

Don't piss me off :whistle:

still see that a lot actually w/ the BIOs'es.

Dave
02-25-2009, 09:00 PM
:rofl:

I didn't think about that. My favorite is still Windows 95 when the keyboard isn't connected. "keyboard not found. Hit any key to continue". The computer we kept all the up/download software on for the security panels was on a Win 95 computer. One of my favorite things to do to one of the techs that got on my nerves was to unplug the keyboard before he got there. :lol: Almost everytime he'd automatically hit a key then realize I had unplugged it again...or someone did. :whistle: Of course, I took the time to twist the keyboard wire around other wires to make a jumbled mess. :devil:

Don't piss me off :whistle:

hit print screen and get an image of the desktop. then save that image as the wallpaper and right click to turn off the desktop icons. then open up task manager and kill explorer. drives em banannas :whistle:

rogue
02-25-2009, 09:01 PM
hit print screen and get an image of the desktop. then save that image as the wallpaper and right click to turn off the desktop icons. then open up task manager and kill explorer. drives em banannas :whistle:

OMFG!!!! :lmao: :lmao:

You know I'll eventually find someone to do this to, right? :lol:

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 09:07 PM
hit print screen and get an image of the desktop. then save that image as the wallpaper and right click to turn off the desktop icons. then open up task manager and kill explorer. drives em banannas :whistle:

prob is typically explorer will restart itself.

OMFG!!!! :lmao: :lmao:

You know I'll eventually find someone to do this to, right? :lol:

just need to find someone who leaves their computer unlocked and walks away from it.



i'm paranoid, i even lock my computer when i walk away from it at home (if anyone is in the house that is).

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 09:09 PM
wtf? even through a GPO based script?

I don't know if it's GPO, basic batching, or what. It was put together by the staff we have overseeing our server farm in conjunction with outside contractors and if there is a way to bump it up to automatic authentication of administrator rights, they haven't implemented it yet.

Our Vista install base is tiny compared to XP Pro, so it hasn't been a big issue up to this point.

Dave
02-25-2009, 09:11 PM
OMFG!!!! :lmao: :lmao:

You know I'll eventually find someone to do this to, right? :lol:

yup

prob is typically explorer will restart itself.

well ive never had someone piss me off enough to try renaming it lol. ive also toyed with the idea of trying to pull it from the startup cue. be a lot easier if i could figure out a way to just shut off the start bar though

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 09:16 PM
I don't know if it's GPO, basic batching, or what. It was put together by the staff we have overseeing our server farm in conjunction with outside contractors and if there is a way to bump it up to automatic authentication of administrator rights, they haven't implemented it yet.

Our Vista install base is tiny compared to XP Pro, so it hasn't been a big issue up to this point.

i'm guessing it's not.


GPO startup/shutdown scripts shound run basically as a system process (think about it, does the system prompt you for administrative access when the GPO applies in the first place, the scripts should run be running in the same context).

What it sounds like is just a basic startup script that's ran when the account authenticates against the domain... ?


Wish i could be more help but the position i was at last was fighting vista implimentation, and the job i'm in now we support it, but it's not out there right now *too* support (it's a very dynamic environment I support).

Papa_Complex
02-25-2009, 09:30 PM
i'm guessing it's not.


GPO startup/shutdown scripts shound run basically as a system process (think about it, does the system prompt you for administrative access when the GPO applies in the first place, the scripts should run be running in the same context).

What it sounds like is just a basic startup script that's ran when the account authenticates against the domain... ?


Wish i could be more help but the position i was at last was fighting vista implimentation, and the job i'm in now we support it, but it's not out there right now *too* support (it's a very dynamic environment I support).

You're likely right about that. I had very little to do with the server side implementation. I was hands on, out on site. It was pretty messy, so I had my hands full enough as it was.

At this point though, I'm not putting anything past the screw-ups that Vista can cause. Have you ever added a Vista system to AD and then logged in for the first time, only to have Vista sit there saying that it was logging in for as long as you're willing to wait? Lost count, myself.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 09:33 PM
You're likely right about that. I had very little to do with the server side implementation. I was hands on, out on site. It was pretty messy, so I had my hands full enough as it was.

At this point though, I'm not putting anything past the screw-ups that Vista can cause. Have you ever added a Vista system to AD and then logged in for the first time, only to have Vista sit there saying that it was logging in for as long as you're willing to wait? Lost count, myself.

haven't used vista in a domain environment yet.


will be doing so soon, one of my systems is about to get overhauled and i'm gonna load up a VM to be a DC, so I'll be doing that soon enough.

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 11:12 PM
welp i guess i was motivated enough.


got the OS loading on the new PC.


man, she's quick.

rogue
02-25-2009, 11:16 PM
welp i guess i was motivated enough.


got the OS loading on the new PC.


man, she's quick.

Hey...what are you still doing up? Isn't it past your bedtime? :p

:lol: :lol:

Lamnidae
02-25-2009, 11:18 PM
Hey...what are you still doing up? Isn't it past your bedtime? :p

:lol: :lol:

yes ma'am it is, by damn near two hours....


Geeks play hard sometimes. ;)

Sauron
02-26-2009, 09:22 AM
I've got you beat by one desktop and you've got me by one laptop. So do we start counting NAS boxes to break the tie? :lol:

I've got 2 Lacie 7.5 TB ones... I sold the drobos cause they were just to f-ing slow ;)
And I didn't count the 2 MacMini's that are used solely as MediaCenter Devices. The old Xboxes running XBMC were great, but couldn't handle HD content...

Mark

Papa_Complex
02-26-2009, 09:27 AM
Ug! Ya got me!!

I've got a D-Link and a Synology NAS, for 2GB each.

*EDIT* That's 2TB.

Lamnidae
02-26-2009, 08:11 PM
Damn, that's a fairly good amount of storage there.....




BTW


the new i7's fucking kick ass. loaded XP, drivers, patched up to date (including SP3) in well under an hour.... things a friggin machine!

Smittie61984
02-26-2009, 09:47 PM
Okay a little off topic but you computer folks going back and forth got me thinking and now I can't figure it out. There was a TV show from the 90s that I watched as a kid. It featured a Compaq computer that people would use to travel literally (Yes I said literally) INTO the internet and fight crime and stuff. Made me think Compaq was the best puters out there because of the show. Anyone know???

Lamnidae
02-27-2009, 07:02 AM
Ummm lost me there on that one Smittie.

Papa_Complex
02-27-2009, 07:33 AM
The only show that comes to mind was "Whiz Kids" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085110/), but that was back in the early/mid '80s and I don't remember a lot about it. Definitely not the type of computer they used, which at best could have been an early PC compatible.

Do you have any more on it?

Smittie61984
03-05-2009, 06:08 AM
that's about all the info I got. I tried googling the hell out of it with no luck.