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Triple
03-03-2009, 01:18 PM
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Tmall
03-03-2009, 01:25 PM
From what I gather... This new crop of trucks are the cheapest made they've ever been.

The only one I'd consider owning right now is an F-150 and I'm a Chevy guy.
wildchild
03-03-2009, 01:28 PM
yeah the 1/2 tons are cheap. 3/4 and 1 tons are still getting a pretty good price. You can save some coin on them though. I'm pricing out 3/4 tons right now so we'll see which company wants business the most.
Corey
03-03-2009, 02:17 PM
... how cheap full-size trucks are right now?

I'm finding new / leftover V-8 Dodge Rams in the $11-13K range.

And seeing as 2008 was the last year for the V-8 / manual transmission combo, I'm very tempted.

The company's inevitable collapse won't affect immediate parts availability, right? Not having a warranty on a late model Dodge, though, that could be bad...

You could always get a warranty through a third party. Allstate actually sells warranties that have pretty good coverage at a decent price.
wildchild
03-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Something I didn't know: the 2008 4.7L makes 310 hp, up from the 2007's 235 hp. Significant increase...

Well. Might have to have a "discussion" with the wife tonight...

Listen, woman...


Is that your way of telling us you will no longer be around.

In breaking news man was killed by flying rolling pin after famous last statement...........listen woman. :whistle:
Corey
03-03-2009, 05:00 PM
Is that your way of telling us you will no longer be around.

In breaking news man was killed by flying rolling pin after famous last statement...........listen woman. :whistle:

Naw, it means his wife will have a brand new truck and he'll be sporting a 92 Geo Metro XFI.
wildchild
03-03-2009, 05:23 PM
Naw, it means his wife will have a brand new truck and he'll be sporting a 92 Geo Metro XFI.


:zowned: damn that's harsh.
Corey
03-04-2009, 10:05 AM
Come on now, we all know females can't drive.

Fixed that for ya. :lol:
Lamnidae
03-04-2009, 08:27 PM
Don't get me going there.


Price of mine has TANKED w/ the way Dodge, Ford, and Chevy are practically GIVING the fucking things away.....


Sucks cause it's a nice truck w/ the HD 2500 chassis.... but it's a 1500 Mega Cab.
101lifts2
03-04-2009, 09:08 PM
Something I didn't know: the 2008 4.7L makes 310 hp, up from the 2007's 235 hp. Significant increase...

Well. Might have to have a "discussion" with the wife tonight...

Listen, woman...


LOL...ur wife could prolly kick ur ass.

Don't get your hopes up on the manuals. If your going to get a Manual, make sure to test ride it for a good amount of time. The GMs and Dodges have alot of slop in the transmission / rear end and its annoying as fuck. I have a 6cyl. 4.2L 2006 F-150 with a stick and there is no slop at all.
Cutty72
03-04-2009, 09:10 PM
Haven't looked at GM and Dodge, but Ford is NOT giving away the new F150's... 36K for the FX4 I like...
unknownroad
03-04-2009, 11:05 PM
Have you actually found a V8/manual in dealer inventory somewhere? I searched dealer inventory in SC, NC, GA, and FL when I was shopping, and I think I turned up one :idk:
Homeslice
03-05-2009, 08:51 AM
Manuals suck for towing anyway.
Cutty72
03-05-2009, 10:03 AM
Manuals suck for towing anyway.

How do you figure?
azoomm
03-05-2009, 10:15 AM
Come on now, we all know females can't drive stick shifts.

Yeah, I know... it's just that men get all that practice when they are sleeping on the couch.
Mr Lefty
03-05-2009, 10:18 AM
Yeah, I know... it's just that men get all that practice when they are sleeping on the couch.

well if ya want... I can sleep next to ya... give ya some practice :lol:
azoomm
03-05-2009, 10:41 AM
well if ya want... I can sleep next to ya... give ya some practice :lol:

:rofl:

I could tell you how to get the wife to like the purchase of a truck....
Mr Lefty
03-05-2009, 10:42 AM
i don't have that problem... yet
Homeslice
03-05-2009, 10:45 AM
How do you figure?

Because usually the weight rating is higher with an automatic

But of course if all you're hauling is bikes, it doesn't matter
Cutty72
03-05-2009, 12:43 PM
Because usually the weight rating is higher with an automatic

But of course if all you're hauling is bikes, it doesn't matter

:idk: my fam has had nothing but manual trans pickups for as long as I can remember, no issues, and we regularly overloaded them :panic:

I hate autos, especially in diesels, cause you can't make it hold a gear. Tranny usually shifts right as the motor starts to actually pull. pisses me off.

And Manuals are tougher. at least in older vehicles.
neighbor replaced 4 auto trans in his pickup otherwise identical to ours with the manual, pulling a smaller trailer. :no:
wildchild
03-05-2009, 01:12 PM
if you're dealing with a heavy duty truck, (3/4 or 1 ton) you can still pull nearly as much as an auto if not the same. It's just the 1/2 tons that they put the stupid little mini clutches in.
Of course it is a moot point now with everyone doing away with manual trannies. Can't blame them though they make a ton of money on tranny rebuilds on trucks. Think about it, I bet you know at least two people who have had to rebuild or replace a tranny in a newer less then 75000 mi truck. At the tune of 3-6 grand that's not bad returning money.
Cutty72
03-05-2009, 04:02 PM
if you're dealing with a heavy duty truck, (3/4 or 1 ton) you can still pull nearly as much as an auto if not the same. It's just the 1/2 tons that they put the stupid little mini clutches in.
Of course it is a moot point now with everyone doing away with manual trannies. Can't blame them though they make a ton of money on tranny rebuilds on trucks. Think about it, I bet you know at least two people who have had to rebuild or replace a tranny in a newer less then 75000 mi truck. At the tune of 3-6 grand that's not bad returning money.

Ford is the only one that doesn't offer at least 100K warranty on powertrain now. So they must be decent now :idk:
101lifts2
03-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Triple does that Dodge have PW, PL and Cruise? Or is it a base?
wildchild
03-06-2009, 08:12 AM
Ford is the only one that doesn't offer at least 100K warranty on powertrain now. So they must be decent now :idk:


Ford trucks are great, but 100k warranty doesn't mean it will pull more. The clutch in the 1/2 ton fords will get you a 3500 lb tow capacity. If they are still using the same clutch as they were a couple years ago it is actually out of a Mazda pickup. It works, I had one with a V6 for awhile, but it won't tow a whole lot. I know guys who are towing a lot more then rated but if you blow something out and they decide you overloaded your warranty is junk.

BTW I love the new style of F150, or well almost new now they they brought out the '09. BUT a lot of people seem to be having a lot of issues with them. Fuel issues seem to be prevalent especially up north. Buddy here just took it up the shorts on his '06 just to get rid of the thing. Glad I didn't upgrade my '02 now.
Cutty72
03-06-2009, 09:54 AM
Ford trucks are great, but 100k warranty doesn't mean it will pull more. The clutch in the 1/2 ton fords will get you a 3500 lb tow capacity. If they are still using the same clutch as they were a couple years ago it is actually out of a Mazda pickup. It works, I had one with a V6 for awhile, but it won't tow a whole lot. I know guys who are towing a lot more then rated but if you blow something out and they decide you overloaded your warranty is junk.

BTW I love the new style of F150, or well almost new now they they brought out the '09. BUT a lot of people seem to be having a lot of issues with them. Fuel issues seem to be prevalent especially up north. Buddy here just took it up the shorts on his '06 just to get rid of the thing. Glad I didn't upgrade my '02 now.

no, just means that the trannys are built better than they were in the past. And I love the 09 F150s :drool:

I have the one I want all priced out and printed ready to order... in like 3 years when I can afford it. $39,335 before rebates.
wildchild
03-06-2009, 10:01 AM
no, just means that the trannys are built better than they were in the past. And I love the 09 F150s :drool:

I have the one I want all priced out and printed ready to order... in like 3 years when I can afford it. $39,335 before rebates.

Well we're hoping they're built better anyways. :) I haven't any trouble with mine. I do all my own maint though. Including pulling the pan every 25K and cleaning the goop out and putting in a new filter and fluids. I do quite a bit of pulling with her so the tranny is my main worry.
I absolutely love the '09 F150. Checked it out at the auto show last weekend. Not bad and it'll pull 11,300 lbs. (properly equipped of course)
Supposed to drive an '09 F250 tomorrow and see what it's like. May just get another half ton. Wanting to go bigger in the RV dept but I could probably keep it under the 150's limit.
Cutty72
03-06-2009, 10:05 AM
I'd love an F250, but if I went that route I'd want the diesel, and the 6.4L is a POS.
wildchild
03-06-2009, 12:46 PM
I agree but hard to swallow an extra 7K for a diesel. I'm looking at the V10
wildchild
03-09-2009, 04:46 PM
My loan application was shot down.

Son of a bitch.

that sucks. sorry to hear it.
PhiSig1071
03-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Yeah, they're cheap right now. I know where I can get a georeous 1-ton dodge quad cab, duallie, 4x4 with the cummins diesel with 24k miles for $19k. KBB trade-in value on the truck is $27k. And it's set up exactly how I would want it. Crank windows and locks, cloth interior, quadcab, long bed. Just not in the market right this second and I really don't have anything that I would need a truck that size to pull.