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derf
03-10-2009, 03:16 AM
I'm adding a few electronic accessories, but not wanting to mess with the bikes electrical system, I am making a seperate electrical system, with its own fuse box and relay.

The only connection to the bikes stock system will probably be near the key and that will be a wire to the relay on the new part of the electrical system. Although I am looking for a switched on connection that is bolted on with a nut, that way I can just bolt it on rather than either splice into it.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/905/newelectricalsystem.png (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newelectricalsystem.png)

I think I'm going to go with this

http://www.amazon.com/VDC-Automotive-Relay-SPDT-40A/dp/B0002KR9GG/ref=pd_sbs_sg_6

and this

http://www.amazon.com/5029-Blade-Fuse-Block-Cover/dp/B000MMH1GC/ref=pd_sbs_auto_5

or this

http://www.amazon.com/BUSS-ATC-FUSE-BLOCK-BUSSMAN/dp/B000UKH0RQ/ref=pd_sbs_sg_5

although this one is really calling my name, just dont care for the $100 price tag

http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/largeview.php?SearchField=70207

tommymac
03-10-2009, 03:31 AM
What are you looking to add/run that can help determine what you may need.

Tom

derf
03-10-2009, 03:57 AM
I'm actually looking at having my GPS run out of the front, and the rear be used for charging my gadgets. I am also contemplating adding more electrical stuff in the future (reason for looking at the larger fuse boxes), like heated hand grips and a plug for a heated vest, possibly a 2nd outlet up front for a radar detector.

in total I'm looking at 4 outlets, plus the voltometer/clock, plus the heated hand grips. That should be more than enough. I had 2 outlets on my last bike and it worked good, but I didn't have the GPS or a radar detector on it either. The bike also came with all that stuff already on it, and I definately feel the pain when I'm riding because I don't have the ability to charge or run any gadgets.

Phenix_Rider
03-10-2009, 06:30 AM
Use the horn wire to switch your relay. It's only on with the key, and it's non-critical, and it has a separate fuse.

derf
03-10-2009, 06:02 PM
Use the horn wire to switch your relay. It's only on with the key, and it's non-critical, and it has a separate fuse.

See thats fucking great info right there, thank you

JoshuaTree
03-10-2009, 07:14 PM
To make the hot-tap for any 'ignition-on' power source, you can utilize the piggyback style blade push-on connnectors (usually OK for the horn). Your diagram is slightly off - in that you'll want to just connect the ignition-on power just to the relay coil. You'll then have a "master accessory fuse" that feeds the common terminal on the relay, rated at the combined total amperage of the devices you're going to run. Your accessories will power off of the "NO" (normally open) terminal. Make sure that you have supply wiring from the battery to the relay, and from the relay to the fuse block of sufficient gauge to handle the amperage draw. Same with the return wiring. Blue Sea stuff is pretty nice. There are some solutions also available at www.cyclegadgets.com - take a look at these: http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=CEN

I've done a bit of wiring on my bike...:whistle:

Phenix_Rider
03-10-2009, 07:31 PM
See thats fucking great info right there, thank you

:dthumb: That's how I did my grip heaters.

Do you know the output of your stator and the requirements for your gear? You might need to be careful of overloading the bike's system.

JoshuaTree
03-10-2009, 07:35 PM
... Do you know the output of your stator and the requirements for your gear? You might need to be careful of overloading the bike's system.

What? Doesn't everyone have the ability to upgrade their alternator to 50-60A? Hmmmm? redflip




:sorry:

Phenix_Rider
03-10-2009, 07:48 PM
What? Doesn't everyone have the ability to upgrade their alternator to 50-60A? Hmmmm? redflip




:sorry:

Why in hell would you want to? Running a TV and satellite receiver off your beemer for the in flight movie?

:lol

derf
03-10-2009, 11:46 PM
I wound up buying this, its supposed to be marine quality so I'm guessing it should be water proof.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K2MBPA

JoshuaTree
03-11-2009, 06:46 AM
Why in hell would you want to? Running a TV and satellite receiver off your beemer for the in flight movie?

:lol

That and the inverter for the small microwave to make fresh popcorn... :whistle:





:p

Archren
03-11-2009, 11:29 AM
That and the inverter for the small microwave to make fresh popcorn... :whistle:





:p

And here I thought it was for the espresso machine..

G-Rex
03-11-2009, 11:36 AM
Ah I'm coming to the party a bit late. Looks like Josh has you squared away though on what you should be doing.

I used a Blue Sea marine grade fusebox on the Busa. Powered that with a relay from Radio Shack that I tied into the turn signal circuit.

Right now I'm just running the GPS off of it. I need to wire up a charger for my iPhone, and ultimately the *sear your retina* driving lights I still need to hook up, and a full complement of heated gear. The Busa charging system will run all of that. Barely. :lol:

I still need to wire up a voltage gauge so I can keep a real-time check on charging status.

JoshuaTree
03-11-2009, 09:54 PM
And here I thought it was for the espresso machine..

I drink tea, dear. :p I can't stand coffee.

Besides, I'd also have to power the coffee bean grinder, and then there would be some dilettante that would whine about not having fresh milk (i.e. necessitating a refrigerator) to make cappuccinos or lattes or whatever foofy coffee/milk beverage is in fashion nowadays...

If I do upgrade to the 60A alternator, I can run a 500 Watt microwave while riding, although I'd have to shut down the ECM pod...

:bigrofl:

Archren
03-11-2009, 10:05 PM
I drink tea, dear. :p I can't stand coffee.

Besides, I'd also have to power the coffee bean grinder, and then there would be some dilettante that would whine about not having fresh milk (i.e. necessitating a refrigerator) to make cappuccinos or lattes or whatever foofy coffee/milk beverage is in fashion nowadays...

If I do upgrade to the 60A alternator, I can run a 500 Watt microwave while riding, although I'd have to shut down the ECM pod...

Ok, so if no coffee, then you at least need a water heater. :nee:

derf
03-12-2009, 07:07 PM
Hey I'm gonna leave the microwave and fridge at home. Ive learned over the years that I can keep food cold in the cooler with some ice, and if I need to cook the steaks I can do it on the exaust.

I am slowly compiling parts to finish the upgrades. I will do a full write up when I am done.

In the mean time I'm gonna start a parts list here so I don't forget.

Fuse block
in line glass fuse
relay
electrical connectors
wire loom


and this is slightly worse but similar to what I want it to look like. I'm using the same components.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1778/wirejob.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wirejob.jpg)

Amorok
03-13-2009, 03:16 PM
I wonder if I can upgrade my stator without building something. It would be nice.