Seriously... another one in NY?

[Lucky3623]

At least this one didn't crash...

Plane makes emergency landing after takeoff in NYC

NEW YORK – An American Airlines plane made an emergency landing in New York minutes after takeoff. The pilot had reported engine problems.

Port Authority spokesman Pasquale DiFulco (Pas-KWAHL-ay Dee-FUHL'-koh) says some debris was found in a neighborhood. Officials could not immediately confirm reports that the debris included parts of the plane's engine.

American Flight 309 left LaGuardia Airport at 8:15 a.m. Wednesday. The pilot reported engine problems and the plane was diverted to nearby Kennedy Airport. It landed safely and no injuries were reported.

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_re_us/emergency_landing

[Rider]

More birds my guess. :idk: Of course I work for a company that has a division that makes aircraft engines sooo.... I can't say anything negative about engine quality or reliability. :whistle:

[Particle Man]

... further re-affirming my refusal to fly into (or out of) any of the airports in the tri-state area...

[Tsunami]

Are people getting lazy at the job?

[Homeslice]

Are people getting lazy at the job?

Most likely, inspection standards are going down, due both to the economy as well as 8 years of the Bush administation poo-pooing the need for federal oversight of business, safety and health. The same happened in the food industry as well.

[Rider]

Most likely, inspection standards are going down, due both to the economy as well as 8 years of the Bush administation poo-pooing the need for federal oversight of business, safety and health. The same happened in the food industry as well.

Do you work in the aviation field? If you do then you's know that that statement is about as far from the truth as you can get.

[Particle Man]

Most likely, inspection standards are going down, due both to the economy as well as 8 years of the Bush administation poo-pooing the need for federal oversight of business, safety and health. The same happened in the food industry as well.

I dunno dude, I've had plenty of flights delayed and/or canceled because the found something wrong with the aircraft... I'd prefer they find it BEFORE takeoff rather than the alternative... better to be late than Late

[Homeslice]

Do you work in the aviation field? If you do then you's know that that statement is about as far from the truth as you can get.

You mean kinda like these bits of news?

http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/203391/faa_probes_airtraffic_controversy/

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/040808dnbusfaa.404aa961.html

etc....

[Rider]

I dunno dude, I've had plenty of flights delayed and/or canceled because the found something wrong with the aircraft... I'd prefer they find it BEFORE takeoff rather than the alternative... better to be late than Late

I work closely with the FAA and their regulations are getting tighter and tighter everyday. Their job is to make flying safer... NOT more convenient.

[Particle Man]

I work closely with the FAA and their regulations are getting tighter and tighter everyday. Their job is to make flying safer... NOT more convenient.

I wasn't complaining. :idk:

As a matter of fact, that is the one situation where I don't complain about being delayed (at least, not to the airline :lol:)

[Curb]

i just flew into and out of white plains airport a couple weeks ago...very smooth getting in and out. the only problem i encountered was on my connection to NY out of Charlotte. a flap on the nose of the plane wouldn't close and after about 20 minutes they just swapped planes and as we were boarding the second plane the they got the flap locked down...no biggie in my book...eventhough the whole transfer took about 40 minutes we wound up less than 10 minutes late from the scheduled arrival time.

[Rider]

You mean kinda like these bits of news?

http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/203391/faa_probes_airtraffic_controversy/

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/040808dnbusfaa.404aa961.html

etc....

The problem was was solved by the FAA in the first article

"Every indication since DFW was put under a microscope is that it is running a clean operation," said Martin, the FAA spokesman"

and

"Most controllers involved in the errors were sent for retraining. In addition, some managers are on probation and a quality-assurance manager was reassigned."

The managers at DFW were not supervising their people, bottom line. Your first post in this thread cited lower inspection standards, the economy and president Bush as the possible reason's. All which are untrue and not mentioned in either of the articles you posted.

In the second article, it was one manager that was not following through with required inspections. As soon and the FAA got wind of it they rectified the problem. There are always going to be somebody someplace that doesn't do their job. Inspections can be pencil whipped unfortunately. Lazyness is a human quality that should not be tolerated especially when it comes to safety, but you can't force people to do the right thing every minute of the day. When you catch them skipping routine inspections, you fire their ass. The only way to really solve the problem is to have 2 people perform all inspections. But again there is no guarantee that it actually gets done. At some point you have to have trust in people. When they break that trust you put them out on their ass.

My point is, there is an effort to make flying safer, but just like any job there will be those that don't perform the job as they were hired to do. Do all the people you work with put 100% effort into every work day? I doubt it.

[Particle Man]

<--- sensing a nerve has been touched considering the reaction to my comment alluding to the fact that inspectors ARE doing their jobs... hmmm....

[Rider]

<--- sensing a nerve has been touched considering the reaction to my comment alluding to the fact that inspectors ARE doing their jobs... hmmm....

Nope not at all. It was nothing you said. :dthumb: I just don't subscribe the the "conspiracy theory" that Homeslice was alluding to in his first post. I think flying is just as safe as ever and I would not hesitate to fly ANY airline in the US. Now over in China or Russia is a different story. They don't have the safety regulation we have here and those airlines/manufacturers are not allowed to operate in the US.