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Apoc
03-31-2009, 02:54 PM
Ok, so im getting a new cell, and I have it down to two. My provider doesnt support Iphones yet, and im not sold on touch screens, so im looking at two blackberry's. A bold and the 8830 World edition. Does the bold do enough extra to warrant the extra cost? What are the differences? This is my first smartphone, so im a little lost.

Tmall
03-31-2009, 02:58 PM
The pearl does enough things to warrant any cost. They have tons of apps. And that's the whole idea behind a smartphone. Just get a full keyboard, and make sure your mitts fit it.

Trip
03-31-2009, 03:02 PM
Corey knows all about the older gen blackberrys, send him a pm

Apoc
03-31-2009, 03:06 PM
The pearl does enough things to warrant any cost. They have tons of apps. And that's the whole idea behind a smartphone. Just get a full keyboard, and make sure your mitts fit it.

Thats why I didnt look at the pearl. It feels to small in my big hands.

rogue
03-31-2009, 03:07 PM
I sent Corey the link. Hopefully, he'll pop in and tell you all the good stuff about the Blackberrys. :dthumb:

He should be a salesman for these gadgets. He sold me on it and I'm a hard sell! :lol:

Corey
03-31-2009, 03:13 PM
The Bold is worth the extra cash over the 8830. The 8830 is pretty much a Curve without the camera. The Bold is much more than just an aesthetic upgrade to the 88xx and 83xx series. The Bold has much greater internal memory, a far better and faster processor, has 3G network capability, plus it has a camera. The media capabilities are greater, the unit is faster, and the updated OS is better.

Lucky3623
03-31-2009, 03:37 PM
Plus you get GPS and blackberry maps. I have run the curve for almost 2 years now, and before that I had the 1st gen pearl.

Corey
03-31-2009, 04:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the 8830 has GPS as well, but the bold also has WiFi.

Flexin
03-31-2009, 04:30 PM
The Bold is worth the extra cash over the 8830. The 8830 is pretty much a Curve without the camera. The Bold is much more than just an aesthetic upgrade to the 88xx and 83xx series. The Bold has much greater internal memory, a far better and faster processor, has 3G network capability, plus it has a camera. The media capabilities are greater, the unit is faster, and the updated OS is better.

What if you toss in the 8900 against the Bold? My brother has a 8900 and likes it. I was hoping the 9520 would be released but it hasn't happened yet and I want/need a new phone sometime soon.

What about the Nokia E71 compared to the Bold and 8900?

James

Moni
03-31-2009, 05:22 PM
I have the curve and I love it. The battery last a long time. Has all the features I need. Very affordable

Corey
03-31-2009, 09:18 PM
What if you toss in the 8900 against the Bold? My brother has a 8900 and likes it. I was hoping the 9520 would be released but it hasn't happened yet and I want/need a new phone sometime soon.

What about the Nokia E71 compared to the Bold and 8900?

James

Between the 8900 and the Bold, the Bold still has the better processor and 3G over the 8900. I'm not sure if the 8900 has WiFi or not. If I'm not mistaken, they're both running OS 4.6. The 8900 is a little smaller in form factor, but that's one of those things that would be personal preference more than anything else. For the moment, the Bold is the flagship Blackberry in terms of performance, with a processor and hardware that puts it at the top.

I don't know much about the E71. I hear there are a lot of people who like the OS on it, but I have no experience with it.

Flexin
03-31-2009, 09:25 PM
Between the 8900 and the Bold, the Bold still has the better processor and 3G over the 8900. I'm not sure if the 8900 has WiFi or not. If I'm not mistaken, they're both running OS 4.6. The 8900 is a little smaller in form factor, but that's one of those things that would be personal preference more than anything else. For the moment, the Bold is the flagship Blackberry in terms of performance, with a processor and hardware that puts it at the top.

I don't know much about the E71. I hear there are a lot of people who like the OS on it, but I have no experience with it.

Yes the 8900 does have wifi. My brother has it and likes it. He thinks I would like the Bold. The larger phone doesn't bother me to much. I went from a small Nokia to a Treo 650. I like a larger screen. But I do like the 8900 for the little bit I used it when my brother was here one day.

James

Corey
03-31-2009, 09:32 PM
Yes the 8900 does have wifi. My brother has it and likes it. He thinks I would like the Bold. The larger phone doesn't bother me to much. I went from a small Nokia to a Treo 650. I like a larger screen. But I do like the 8900 for the little bit I used it when my brother was here one day.

James

I think the 8900 is an excellent evolution on the Curve. The keyboard is excellent, a little better in feel and spacing than the Bold, IMHO, and the screen is really sharp. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have a tough time picking one over the other. The 3G is the only thing that really pushes the nod towards the Bold, but when I was on ATT, their 3G was useless, so that's kind of a wash. Otherwise, I think I could go either way. Fortunately (or unfortunately I supposed) I'm on Verizon and neither phone are offered, though variations of the two are coming, and now that the OS situation is sorted, my Storm has been rock solid and excellent.

Trip
03-31-2009, 09:41 PM
I think the 8900 is an excellent evolution on the Curve. The keyboard is excellent, a little better in feel and spacing than the Bold, IMHO, and the screen is really sharp. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have a tough time picking one over the other. The 3G is the only thing that really pushes the nod towards the Bold, but when I was on ATT, their 3G was useless, so that's kind of a wash. Otherwise, I think I could go either way. Fortunately (or unfortunately I supposed) I'm on Verizon and neither phone are offered, though variations of the two are coming, and now that the OS situation is sorted, my Storm has been rock solid and excellent.

What OS are you currently using? Me and Ebbs are on .109. Been thinking of trying .113, but I hear the battery issue is back and that's my problem on most of the OS leaks.

Corey
03-31-2009, 09:46 PM
What OS are you currently using? Me and Ebbs are on .109. Been thinking of trying .113, but I hear the battery issue is back and that's my problem on most of the OS leaks.

I'm on .113. The battery has been fine for me, but my signal has been hit or miss. I did a full on wipe with JL_Cmdr and a fresh install and that seems to have fixed, but I'm giving it another week to see if another leak comes out or an official one hits, then I'm going back to .109 if the signal problem comes back.

Flexin
03-31-2009, 09:48 PM
I think the 8900 is an excellent evolution on the Curve. The keyboard is excellent, a little better in feel and spacing than the Bold, IMHO, and the screen is really sharp. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have a tough time picking one over the other. The 3G is the only thing that really pushes the nod towards the Bold, but when I was on ATT, their 3G was useless, so that's kind of a wash. Otherwise, I think I could go either way. Fortunately (or unfortunately I supposed) I'm on Verizon and neither phone are offered, though variations of the two are coming, and now that the OS situation is sorted, my Storm has been rock solid and excellent.

The thing is I have never been interested in a BlackBerry at all. After looking at the Storm many times and hearing that it could be coming to Rogers I kinda picked that as my next phone. My brother doesn't think I will be happy with a all touch screen phone. Now they are saying its not coming, so now I need to look again.

Before that I was set on the Treo Pro.

It has never been this hard for me to pick a damn phone. :panic:

I would like to keep a full keyboard, unless I can get my hands a Storm. Wifi would be nice as well. One thing that is making me ease up on my no BlackBerry thing is the email.

James

Curb
03-31-2009, 09:51 PM
i just got the bold about 2 weeks ago. i absolutley love it. the only thing i'm not a fan of is the battery life...way too short. but other than that. i am so happy with it

Corey
03-31-2009, 09:56 PM
The thing is I have never been interested in a BlackBerry at all. After looking at the Storm many times and hearing that it could be coming to Rogers I kinda picked that as my next phone. My brother doesn't think I will be happy with a all touch screen phone. Now they are saying its not coming, so now I need to look again.

Before that I was set on the Treo Pro.

It has never been this hard for me to pick a damn phone. :panic:

I would like to keep a full keyboard, unless I can get my hands a Storm. Wifi would be nice as well. One thing that is making me ease up on my no BlackBerry thing is the email.

James

Before I got a Pearl, I had no use for Blackberry. It seemed like a bunch of shit just kinda thrown on the phone for the sake of throwing a bunch of shit on a phone. The Pearl was something I happened into because my mother hated it because it was too confusing to her, so I swapped out my LG Shine (not a bad phone really) so I wouldn't get the endless calls asking how to do this and that. After getting over the learning curve, I've found the Blackberry OS to be incredibly robust and effective in all terms, and the phones themselves are well made.

If you're not in a rush, there's a model coming out near the end of the year that will be the combination of a touch screen and a physical keyboard, blending the best aspects of the Storm and the Bold. It's hitting Verizon here in the states, and should make it to one of the major Canadian carriers shortly after. It seems like it may be a viable solution for you. Otherwise, if Rogers is getting the 8900, I'd recommend that one if 3G isn't an issue.

Flexin
03-31-2009, 10:25 PM
i just got the bold about 2 weeks ago. i absolutley love it. the only thing i'm not a fan of is the battery life...way too short. but other than that. i am so happy with it

How long will it last you? With my Treo I was going all day texting like crazy (no surfing after I received my cell bill after my daughter was born. :panic:), plus a lot of phone calls and have power at the end of the day. I think I could go a day and half if I used it a lot but I charged it every night so I was good to go all day.

James

Flexin
03-31-2009, 10:38 PM
Before I got a Pearl, I had no use for Blackberry. It seemed like a bunch of shit just kinda thrown on the phone for the sake of throwing a bunch of shit on a phone. The Pearl was something I happened into because my mother hated it because it was too confusing to her, so I swapped out my LG Shine (not a bad phone really) so I wouldn't get the endless calls asking how to do this and that. After getting over the learning curve, I've found the Blackberry OS to be incredibly robust and effective in all terms, and the phones themselves are well made.

If you're not in a rush, there's a model coming out near the end of the year that will be the combination of a touch screen and a physical keyboard, blending the best aspects of the Storm and the Bold. It's hitting Verizon here in the states, and should make it to one of the major Canadian carriers shortly after. It seems like it may be a viable solution for you. Otherwise, if Rogers is getting the 8900, I'd recommend that one if 3G isn't an issue.

We have the 8900 now. My brother bought his a few weeks ago. They go for $225/3 year. Bold is $300/3 year. For some reason I thought that the Bold was $50 cheaper. They might have to kiss my ass on that one. Still not sure. The big problem is when I try the phones out I feel lost. And I want to touch the screen. I'm starting to get over that part but I'm not sure yet.

As far as waiting till the end of the year, my Treo started acting up a couple of months ago so I can't use (well I can but its a pain in the ass now) it anymore. This means I'm stuck with my wifes Nokia 5300. I hate her phone. I didn't mind it when it was her phone but I hate using it myself. So waiting to the end of the year might not be possible.

If I get one I might get one for her as well. I was thinking the Pearl for her but she likes the Pearl flip. I don't know what it is with people and those damn flip phones. I haven't liked flip phones since day one. But if she wants it thats up to her.

James

Corey
03-31-2009, 10:49 PM
We have the 8900 now. My brother bought his a few weeks ago. They go for $225/3 year. Bold is $300/3 year. For some reason I thought that the Bold was $50 cheaper. They might have to kiss my ass on that one. Still not sure. The big problem is when I try the phones out I feel lost. And I want to touch the screen. I'm starting to get over that part but I'm not sure yet.

As far as waiting till the end of the year, my Treo started acting up a couple of months ago so I can't use (well I can but its a pain in the ass now) it anymore. This means I'm stuck with my wifes Nokia 5300. I hate her phone. I didn't mind it when it was her phone but I hate using it myself. So waiting to the end of the year might not be possible.

If I get one I might get one for her as well. I was thinking the Pearl for her but she likes the Pearl flip. I don't know what it is with people and those damn flip phones. I haven't liked flip phones since day one. But if she wants it thats up to her.

James

It is something you get used to. I briefly went back from the Storm to the Curve for a week just to play with it before completely dropping ATT and had a bitch of a time not trying to tap the screen to make a selection, but after two days, that was done. The little trackball is a very intuitive way to make selections and is quick to learn.

And as much as I dislike flip phones like you do, the Pearl Flip is a better, more up to date phone than the regular Pearl. It just looks half retarded.

Flexin
03-31-2009, 10:57 PM
It is something you get used to. I briefly went back from the Storm to the Curve for a week just to play with it before completely dropping ATT and had a bitch of a time not trying to tap the screen to make a selection, but after two days, that was done. The little trackball is a very intuitive way to make selections and is quick to learn.

And as much as I dislike flip phones like you do, the Pearl Flip is a better, more up to date phone than the regular Pearl. It just looks half retarded.

The track ball is quick but maybe its the icons or something. Maybe its just I don't want to leave my Palm but it just looks off. I'm sure I could figure it out quick. I had to feel my way around the Treo when I bought that too. I think I'm mad because I can't find something with 100% of what I want.

What did they change with the flip? The phone itself doesn't seem to be built as well as the old Pearl.

James

Corey
03-31-2009, 11:33 PM
The track ball is quick but maybe its the icons or something. Maybe its just I don't want to leave my Palm but it just looks off. I'm sure I could figure it out quick. I had to feel my way around the Treo when I bought that too. I think I'm mad because I can't find something with 100% of what I want.

What did they change with the flip? The phone itself doesn't seem to be built as well as the old Pearl.

James

There's more internal memory on the Flip (128 megs vs. 64 megs), the Flip sports the newer 4.6 OS that is slightly more media friendly and has a better browser, and the keys feel bigger and slightly more responsive.

Homeslice
03-31-2009, 11:34 PM
I like flips because you can just throw them in a pocket without the buttons snagging on anything or collecting dust. Plus if you're too lazy to dig out your headset, a flipphone is nicer to talk on than a brick phone, because it fully extends from your ear to your mouth.

Corey
04-01-2009, 12:33 AM
And slightly related, the App Store finally launched about 15 minutes ago for all you Blackberry folks. It's downloadable at mobile.blackberry.com through the App World link, even though it says coming soon.

Flexin
04-01-2009, 12:57 AM
I like flips because you can just throw them in a pocket without the buttons snagging on anything or collecting dust. Plus if you're too lazy to dig out your headset, a flipphone is nicer to talk on than a brick phone, because it fully extends from your ear to your mouth.

Yeah thats what everyone said that had the Motorola flip back in the day and I had my Nokia 100. You don't need the mic to touch your mouth for someone to hear you. I have always owned "brick" phones and I never had a problem.

Jamess

There's more internal memory on the Flip (128 megs vs. 64 megs), the Flip sports the newer 4.6 OS that is slightly more media friendly and has a better browser, and the keys feel bigger and slightly more responsive.

Thanks.

James

Mr Lefty
04-01-2009, 06:57 AM
And slightly related, the App Store finally launched about 15 minutes ago for all you Blackberry folks. It's downloadable at mobile.blackberry.com through the App World link, even though it says coming soon.

just saw that this morning... so much for sign'n up for updates... did that two weeks ago... no update... just a launch... but hell guess that's better than nothing at all :lol:

Angee
04-01-2009, 07:02 AM
Rob has the Bold and it does EVERYTHING...well, not dishes, but you get my jist... He loves it. He has it synchronized with exchange/outlook and it updates like every 15 minutes. It's got a trackball and is easy to maneuver around the web on. There's quite a few websites that sell accessories at a reasonable cost, and I swear, he has them all. :lol:

Curb
04-01-2009, 07:04 AM
How long will it last you? With my Treo I was going all day texting like crazy (no surfing after I received my cell bill after my daughter was born. :panic:), plus a lot of phone calls and have power at the end of the day. I think I could go a day and half if I used it a lot but I charged it every night so I was good to go all day.

Jamesthe specs say it has 4.5 hours of talk time not sure what the standby time is. but i'm usually good on it for a solid day then i need to hit the charger up. i usually stick on the mobile charger on my way home from work if its really low.

Apoc
04-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I got a blackberry curve. I couldnt justify 250$ for the bold when the curve was free. And I am totally satisfied. The phone does more than I had ever hoped it could.

Ive downloaded all the standard apps, like google maps, browsers, weather, that kind of stuff. What other apps are out there, 3rd party stuff you guys find useful? And where do you find them?

Corey
04-06-2009, 12:58 AM
I got a blackberry curve. I couldnt justify 250$ for the bold when the curve was free. And I am totally satisfied. The phone does more than I had ever hoped it could.

Ive downloaded all the standard apps, like google maps, browsers, weather, that kind of stuff. What other apps are out there, 3rd party stuff you guys find useful? And where do you find them?

I'd start with App World, downloaded through your phone's browser at the mobile.blackberry.com website. It's the Blackberry version of the Apple store. They've been adding a good amount of content over the past few days, even though it just launched on April 1st.

As far as apps, I'm running Viigo for RSS feeds, the Myspace and Facebook apps, Slacker and Flycast for music streaming, and google maps for Latitude. If you haven't already, check out crackberry.com. In general, it's an excellent source for Blackberry info. They have a good App store of their own and a fuckton of members to help with info. I've gotten most of my themes through their forums.

Mr Lefty
04-06-2009, 06:04 AM
anyone else having issues with appworld? I go to purchase... and can log into paypal just fine... select a primary and alternate payment method just fine... but it always errors out...

maybe i just need to load my money into pay pal... be nicer if I could just use the link to my debit card :isk:

Corey
04-06-2009, 06:16 AM
anyone else having issues with appworld? I go to purchase... and can log into paypal just fine... select a primary and alternate payment method just fine... but it always errors out...

maybe i just need to load my money into pay pal... be nicer if I could just use the link to my debit card :isk:

I haven't tried to purchase anything yet, but they released two updates already. Try downloading App World again to see if you're using the latest version. I believe they addressed this issue with the first update.

Mr Lefty
04-06-2009, 06:37 AM
ahh ok... thanks!

DLIT
04-07-2009, 06:55 AM
I just got a Curve 8310, brand new off Craigslist for $180. the deals are out there. Mine was still sealed up in the ATT box with all accessories too.

I'm just wondering why nobody has posted up the best place to go for free apps. I want more!

Mr Lefty
04-07-2009, 06:56 AM
Crackberry.com has alot...

appworld has ALOT of free apps as well

DLIT
04-07-2009, 07:08 AM
Crackberry.com has alot...

appworld has ALOT of free apps as well

Copy, checking...

DLIT
04-07-2009, 07:49 AM
Hell yeah. Got the Bold theme, LightBerry and BB locator apps just now. I highly recommend the locator app. If your BB has GPS, it'll e-mail you the coordinates too. Very nice feature.

bmblebee
04-07-2009, 07:54 AM
I would be careful downloading any free apps. You never know what could be hiding behind the back door in the program

DLIT
04-07-2009, 07:54 AM
I paid for the ones I just downloaded.

rogue
04-07-2009, 08:35 AM
I'm using this one on my 8310 right now and really like it alot because I don't have all the cluttered icons on the home screen. :D

http://forums.crackberry.com/f126/free-83xx-hidden-buuf-crossbar-174113/