Preggers and riding...

[cbrchick]

So I'm gonna sprog sometime in July. I've canceled the insurance on the bike but left it on the scooter.

I've driven neither.

I have no intentions of driving the scooter until well after the babe's born. I don't know if I'd want to or have the time, hormones and all....

Just wondering what y'all think about pregger chicks and riding motorcycles/scooters?

What's the cut off date? If you were a momma and riding, when did you start stop? Baby's daddies, what's your opinion.

This "could" be a loaded topic.

Just curious....

Oh, and Dads.... Did you decrease your riding time/style when kids came into the picture? How did it affect you?

My identity is changing. I am cool with some things but struggling with others....

Kirsty

[azoomm]

I stopped riding because it wasn't physically comfortable. There is somewhat of a twinge of muscles in that area that shouldn't twinge until the *bake cycle* is complete :wink:

Everyone will have their own opinion about someone else's mortality. I say, its up to you.

[CrazyKell]

Although I don't plan on having kids this is a question I've pondered. I think my opinion would probably change if I actually were to get pregnant.

I think I'd ride up until I felt comfortable. I've never judged someone for riding preggers and in fact am usually more on the side of "do everything you normally do" than stopping. I know I'd run as long as I could so why not ride as long as you could. :idk:

[RACER X]

i brought this up a bit back ( it hink before april was 1, so maybe 3 yrs ago), when a lady wanted to take the MSF at like 5mos along, in the middle of summer. i wouldn't personnaly teach to her in that condition. the state had no opinion, so the school asked her to bring a dr's note.

many peeps on here were like.......no baby is gonna make me stop riding, but they were mostly single peeps.

[CrazyKell]

i wouldn't personnaly teach to her in that condition.


I am in no way putting you down or flaming but I'm just wondering what your personal reasons (if you can share them) were for why you wouldn't teach her in that condition. I'm just curious.

[Trip]

I'll probably back it down once I have a kid. I probably won't stop riding, but I will ride with a lot more caution.

[RACER X]

I am in no way putting you down or flaming but I'm just wondering what your personal reasons (if you can share them) were for why you wouldn't teach her in that condition. I'm just curious.

my personnal belief. no need to risk it. bikes will always be there. and if she got hurt or hurt the baby, is the risk worth the reward. IMO no.

[Archren]

I had just bought my 1098 when I was in early pregnancy with Caitlyn... rode until the bump made it too uncomfortable (like Moira said, that whole muscles twitching that need not be twitching thing).

I think people should do whatever they are comfortable with within reason, I suppose. But everyone's definition of "reason" varies widely. The people that gave me the most grief were non-motorcyclists.. people who don't know how I ride. But I wasn't a high-risk pregnancy (in fact both of my kids were VERY healthy.. maybe a little too much at 9lbs 4oz with the first and 8lbs 5 oz with the second :lol: ).

In Ed's case, I think the heat would have been more of a concern than the riding itself.

Would I do it again if I were pregnant? Probably. Thankfully I got my tubes tied/snipped/burned with fiiiirrreee!!!... no more kids for me. Factory is closed, bitches. :lol:

[pauldun170]

thought there are some exceptions on this site especially (unbillical cord still attached and scheduling a track day kinda thing)

If this is your first,
You will be so caught up with the baby that you'll forget you have a bike.
However, after that second birthday the first signs "I need me time" start popping up everyone in awhile.
By the time the kid hits mid 3's, if you haven't gone completely crazy with the playdate schedule you will be REALLY needing some me time and thought of consistent riding will pop up again.

As for the safety aspect...aren't you a nurse?
you probably bring home more infectious strains in a day than I pick up in the subway in a year.

Put the motorcycle in storage for now. Drain the fuel, yank the battery....do all the stuff your supposed to do when putting it in long term storage.

[Archren]

thought there are some exceptions on this site especially (unbillical cord still attached and scheduling a track day kinda thing)

If this is your first,
You will be so caught up with the baby that you'll forget you have a bike.
However, after that second birthday the first signs "I need me time" start popping up everyone in awhile.
By the time the kid hits mid 3's, if you haven't gone completely crazy with the playdate schedule you will be REALLY needing some me time and thought of consistent riding will pop up again.

As for the safety aspect...aren't you a nurse?
you probably bring home more infectious strains in a day than I pick up in the subway in a year.

Put the motorcycle in storage for now. Drain the fuel, yank the battery....do all the stuff your supposed to do when putting it in long term storage.

I needed me time before the kid was even out of me. But I think the ex had more to do with that than the kid did... :whistle:

[azoomm]

Ed brings up a valid point - in a professional situation, I wouldn't allow someone to ride a trackday or even private instruction if ANY medical condition would challenge my liability. I have it in my rules of operation that ANY medical condition be disclosed - and I know I wouldn't allow someone pregnant to come out and participate.

That isn't a personal or moral decision - it's all business and wrapped in liability. If something happens, it isn't about whether I trust YOU - it's do I trust your family should you die. :wink:

[Archren]

Ed brings up a valid point - in a professional situation, I wouldn't allow someone to ride a trackday or even private instruction if ANY medical condition would challenge my liability. I have it in my rules of operation that ANY medical condition be disclosed - and I know I wouldn't allow someone pregnant to come out and participate.

That isn't a personal or moral decision - it's all business and wrapped in liability. If something happens, it isn't about whether I trust YOU - it's do I trust your family should you die. :wink:

Truth. From that standpoint that's a completely reasonable basis for denying someone to come out. :dthumb:

[RACER X]

i wasn;t so much worried about the liability standpoint. esp. since the state had pretty much said it was ok, it was more on my $.02. and how i felt about the condition and the activity.

[azoomm]

i wasn;t so much worried about the liability standpoint. esp. since the state had pretty much said it was ok, it was more on my $.02. and how i felt about the condition and the activity.

OK, then that makes you an arrogant prick. Would almost make me want to take your class looking like I'm pregnant just so I could sue you for discrimination.

Not smart Ed. You don't own the business, it's not your decision to make.

[RACER X]

well duh! kinda takes one to know one, right?

it was my decision to teach or not.

[HurricaneHeather]

OK, then that makes you an arrogant prick.

:rofl:

I am laughing because I said, 'that's just prick-tastic' out loud when I read his post. :lol:

[the chi]

I'd do what I felt was best for me. Not being in that sitch, or thinking about it currently, I cant say 100%, but I would most likely ride until I couldnt anymore.

I wouldnt put myself at unnecessary risk, like at a track day however. :shrug:


OK, then that makes you an arrogant prick. Would almost make me want to take your class looking like I'm pregnant just so I could sue you for discrimination.

Not smart Ed. You don't own the business, it's not your decision to make.

I have to agree. My first thought upon readn your first post was, "who are you to tell me what to do?". If there isnt something stating that it is not allowed, than it is allowed. Refusing someone based on your personal beliefs is discrimination. You dont have the right to make someone elses decision like that. Just saying.

[Apoc]

Women shouldnt be allowed near motorized vehicles, ever. So Ed was right. :panic:





:lala::tl:

[CrazyKell]

Wow...for maybe the first time in history I'm not seeing the prickiness of Ed's post.

I understand what he's saying from a personal standpoint. The bike will always be there.

Although it's not his perogative to discriminate, it is his perogative to say whether he'd teach or not (isn't it? :scratch:).

[cbrchick]

thought there are some exceptions on this site especially (unbillical cord still attached and scheduling a track day kinda thing)

As for the safety aspect...aren't you a nurse?
you probably bring home more infectious strains in a day than I pick up in the subway in a year.

Put the motorcycle in storage for now. Drain the fuel, yank the battery....do all the stuff your supposed to do when putting it in long term storage.

Already in the works. Like I said, I've driven neither. Haven't even registered the bikes. I kept the insurance on the scooter b/c it leaves my claim open and I can add the bike back on in within 2 ears and wont have my insurance go up.

I personally wouldn't ride b/c there's a totally differen't risk of trauma if I were to fall, get hit on a bike verses in a car. I just see too much at work, and I don't want to take any chances in putting my baby in harms way.

Plus, if I were to get into an accident, a pregnant ER nurse on a motorcycle, it would be in the front page for weeks.

Oh, and I don't bring home infectious strains like you'd think :) I have a pretty strong immunity. Rarely sick :)

[Trip]

i wasn;t so much worried about the liability standpoint. esp. since the state had pretty much said it was ok, it was more on my $.02. and how i felt about the condition and the activity.

OK, then that makes you an arrogant prick. Would almost make me want to take your class looking like I'm pregnant just so I could sue you for discrimination.

Not smart Ed. You don't own the business, it's not your decision to make.

I have to agree. My first thought upon readn your first post was, "who are you to tell me what to do?". If there isnt something stating that it is not allowed, than it is allowed. Refusing someone based on your personal beliefs is discrimination. You dont have the right to make someone elses decision like that. Just saying.

Here where I work, we are taught that if you aren't comfortable with the work that is about to be performed, that job needs to be stopped immediately to either you are comfortable or you find a replacement that is comfortable with the work to be performed. This is a quality and safety issue. If he wasn't comfortable with the lady in his class, she shouldn't be in his class. His over attention to her safety would impact the overall class in his reduced attention in the rest of them by monitoring her. That would be unacceptable.

As for his decision to make, yes it is his decision to make. If he thinks it is a safety risk on the customer, you can make that call. It's like Walt Disney World refusing a customer to ride rides because they are a safety risk. This is not discrimination. If the employer thinks it's not a safety risk, they can bring in another employee who is willing to take that safety risk.

Safety is not discrimination and you are allowed as an employee to say to your company that you do not want to perform a task because you think it is a safety hazard. It's every employees responsibility to question the tasks they are asked to perform.

[Dave]

Already in the works. Like I said, I've driven neither. Haven't even registered the bikes. I kept the insurance on the scooter b/c it leaves my claim open and I can add the bike back on in within 2 ears and wont have my insurance go up.

I personally wouldn't ride b/c there's a totally differen't risk of trauma if I were to fall, get hit on a bike verses in a car. I just see too much at work, and I don't want to take any chances in putting my baby in harms way.

Plus, if I were to get into an accident, a pregnant ER nurse on a motorcycle, it would be in the front page for weeks.

Oh, and I don't bring home infectious strains like you'd think :) I have a pretty strong immunity. Rarely sick :)

strong immunity is good but you still carry. Luckily you should pass a lot of those on

[Apoc]

yup, in canada, we have the Unsafe Work Act, which gives anyone the right to refuse any kind of work they think will be harmful to anyone involved. Ed had every right to do what he did.

[HurricaneHeather]

Here where I work, we are taught that if you aren't comfortable with the work that is about to be performed, that job needs to be stopped immediately to either you are comfortable or you find a replacement that is comfortable with the work to be performed. This is a quality and safety issue. If he wasn't comfortable with the lady in his class, she shouldn't be in his class. His over attention to her safety would impact the overall class in his reduced attention in the rest of them by monitoring her. That would be unacceptable.

As for his decision to make, yes it is his decision to make. If he thinks it is a safety risk on the customer, you can make that call. It's like Walt Disney World refusing a customer to ride rides because they are a safety risk. This is not discrimination. If the employer thinks it's not a safety risk, they can bring in another employee who is willing to take that safety risk.

Safety is not discrimination and you are allowed as an employee to say to your company that you do not want to perform a task because you think it is a safety hazard. It's every employees responsibility to question the tasks they are asked to perform.

You are putting too much faith in Ed.

[Trip]

yup, in canada, we have the Unsafe Work Act, which gives anyone the right to refuse any kind of work they think will be harmful to anyone involved. Ed had every right to do what he did.

yeah, we got the same thing in our OSHA laws.

[Trip]

You are putting too much faith in Ed.

yeah, that could be true, just the way he worded first made it seem he was in it for safety. He could be just against preggers though. :lol:

[shmike]

yup, in canada, we have the Unsafe Work Act, which gives anyone the right to refuse any kind of work they think will be harmful to anyone involved. Ed had every right to do what he did.

Maybe so but it doesn't make him less of a prick.

If someone at the DMV refused to allow a pregger chick to take her driving test, would you say the same?

[Apoc]

Im not saying eds not a prick, check his firefighters came to open my door threads, you'll see what I think of him there.

But in this situation, I cant say I wouldnt have done the same.

[RACER X]

so at a driving test, are they learning how to drive or already know? how many people crash on driving test, my guess far fewer then MSF class. but thats only a guess. :idk:

[shmike]

Im not saying eds not a prick, check his firefighters came to open my door threads, you'll see what I think of him there.

But in this situation, I cant say I wouldnt have done the same.

I know your thoughts on Ed. :lol:

[Ninjakel]

I cotinued riding up until the 4th month. I wasn't showing at all, and wasn't uncomfortable. I didn't ride all that much, but i still rode a bit.

[Flexin]

So I'm gonna sprog sometime in July. I've canceled the insurance on the bike but left it on the scooter.

I've driven neither.

I have no intentions of driving the scooter until well after the babe's born. I don't know if I'd want to or have the time, hormones and all....

Just wondering what y'all think about pregger chicks and riding motorcycles/scooters?

What's the cut off date? If you were a momma and riding, when did you start stop? Baby's daddies, what's your opinion.

This "could" be a loaded topic.

Just curious....

Oh, and Dads.... Did you decrease your riding time/style when kids came into the picture? How did it affect you?

My identity is changing. I am cool with some things but struggling with others....

Kirsty


When Lisa was pregnant I didn't take her on the bike at all. I didn't want to risk it. Plus at some point her stomach was going to get in the way. Riding yourself you won't have that problem.

If you were riding a bike that you had problems touching the ground I would worry about the high risk of falling. Other than that I would use your own judgment.

As far as my riding, I didn't change my style but I didn't go crazy for the most part. I rode to the shop every day. The only thing that really changed is I didn't go on as many rides so I could be home with the kids.

I still want another bike and when I get it I will just set a time where I can go off and ride. I'll spend the rest of the time having fun with the kids. They grow up so fast I don't want to miss anything.

BTW when Lisa was in the hospital (with Jayden) he still wasn't out and we had a while to wait so I went home and took a shower, then pulled the bike out of the garage and went for a ride to relax me before going back to the hospital.

James
James

[cbrchick]

strong immunity is good but you still carry. Luckily you should pass a lot of those on


Actually...

I don't. I practice universal precautions at work and wash my hand until they bleed.

I wear gloves, masks, gowns routinely and use hand cleaner in between everything.

What are you suggesting I've brought home to my hubby?

To be a carrier, I'd have to transmit the "stuff" home. Which doesn't happen as evidenced by the lack of sickness of transmittable diseases/colds in my home. My clothes come off when I hit the door :) And he doesn't touch me in them. They get washed on their own. And, I've received more immunizations than most average people b/c of the environment I work in.

So... normal people are more likely to bring the plague into my house - as is my husband, because they are not as religious as I am about not spreading infection/contamination. :)

[cbrchick]

so at a driving test, are they learning how to drive or already know? how many people crash on driving test, my guess far fewer then MSF class. but thats only a guess. :idk:

Ya, gotta agree with Ed on this one. Someone always goes down in an MSF course. I think the likelihood is greater for a fall/crash with a bike vs a car. And considering the mechanism of injury and lack of "cage" around a first time biker, they would have a greater chance of trauma to their abd vs someone in a car. A handle bar to the abd in a low speed dump could lead to a miscarriage/bleeding during pregnancy. The risk is even greater for those "not showing" until 12 weeks. If you're gonna loose the baby, it's more likely to happen in the 1st trimester.

A car is still safer than a bike no matter how you wanna try and spin it. Stats aren't really applicable in this area if people want to start comparing car crashes vs motorcycle crashes with preggers b/c there are a greater amount of preggers in cars vs. on bike.

It's a risk some people are willing to take and I imagine other's aren't.

I've just seen too many miscarriages due to less... I too wouldn't feel comfortable teaching a 5 month preg women to ride a bike.

[azoomm]

I only refer to Ed as arrogant because it wasn't her safety he was worried about. It was his own ideals he was upholding, not those of the class or company he works for.

[CrazyKell]

I only refer to Ed as arrogant because it wasn't her safety he was worried about. It was his own ideals he was upholding, not those of the class or company he works for.


I think that's just a given with that cat. :whistle: ;)

[RACER X]

I only refer to Ed as arrogant because it wasn't her safety he was worried about. It was his own ideals he was upholding, not those of the class or company he works for.

hmm if i wasn't worried for her safety, wouldn't i have taught her?

[the chi]

Wow, ya'll must have some ROUGH msf classes. In the time I've been riding and out of the many riders I know, not a soul has ever crashed in an MSF course. Down here, you crash you fail, so no one crashes! :dthumb:

[Trip]

Wow, ya'll must have some ROUGH msf classes. In the time I've been riding and out of the many riders I know, not a soul has ever crashed in an MSF course. Down here, you crash you fail, so no one crashes! :dthumb:

That surprises me. I saw two people go down in mine. One girl went down multiple times and failed. From talking to the instructors, they usually average one drop per weekend. These are mostly just drops from doing something stupid like not putting down your feet when you come to a stop. Not crashing in motion.

[MILK]

OK, then that makes you an arrogant prick. Would almost make me want to take your class looking like I'm pregnant just so I could sue you for discrimination.

Not smart Ed. You don't own the business, it's not your decision to make.

Yup. It was cleared by the state.

I was pregnant when I took the MSF course IN THE SUMMER.

Guess what? I am a grown up and allowed to make decisions about my safety! The instructor did ask me if it I wanted to skip the bike pushing part but I declined. Pregnant does not equal weak or cripple. I took that with the same grain of salt as all the men that told me not to pick stuff up. :rolleyes: :td:


To answer the question though. I did not ride much at all when I was pregnant. I took the MSF before I had a bike and I didn't get one until later. I didn't see the point buying one while I was pregnant and then not riding it. I also stopped riding with my husband b/c I wasn't in control and didn't feel safe - not that he is a poor rider - I just didn't like it.

[HurricaneHeather]

That surprises me. I saw two people go down in mine. One girl went down multiple times and failed. From talking to the instructors, they usually average one drop per weekend. These are mostly just drops from doing something stupid like not putting down your feet when you come to a stop. Not crashing in motion.

Yeah only one girl dropped in my class and I still blame the instructor for that. :lol: He was doing the I'll tell you at this time to either swerve left, swreve right or stop....well he waiting too long and she committed to swerving left when he stuck out his arms for her to stop. High side FTL.

It stopped class for a while, but she was allowed to stay. :idk:

[MILK]

Only if you drop it during the test do you fail. We had someone drop his bike several times but not during the test. Another guy just decided he didn't like it and stopped coming!

[the chi]

Wow, Im surprised everyone else has had such experiences. Even people I know that have no business being on bikes have made it through without dropping their bikes. Maybe our teachers are more laid back or the style has something to do with it. Was anyones MSF fast paced or seemed rather intense?

[RACER X]

Only if you drop it during the test do you fail. We had someone drop his bike several times but not during the test. Another guy just decided he didn't like it and stopped coming!

WRONG, if your a danger to yourself or your classmates you can be failed, if you fail to "grasp" the exercise any exercise, you can be failed. all these are subjective of course. and yes falling in the eval, you fail.

i had a lady crash in the 1st actual riding part where we rocked back and forth before going across the range. she quit.

[MILK]

WRONG, if your a danger to yourself or your classmates you can be failed, if you fail to "grasp" the exercise any exercise, you can be failed. all these are subjective of course. and yes falling in the eval, you fail.

i had a lady crash in the 1st actual riding part where we rocked back and forth before going across the range. she quit.

I guess your MSF is different than the one I took then. I clearly remember that - and the person that kept dropping his - PASSED.

I also didn't say anything about anyone being a danger or grasping any exercises. I only mentioned dropping the bike. So FAIL for assuming. :lol:

[101lifts2]

CBRChick do you know who the daddy is?

[Trip]

Wow, Im surprised everyone else has had such experiences. Even people I know that have no business being on bikes have made it through without dropping their bikes. Maybe our teachers are more laid back or the style has something to do with it. Was anyones MSF fast paced or seemed rather intense?

No, the person who dropped it once just forgot to put their feet down. It was pretty normal paced and just a minor mistake except the one girl who kept dropping the bike. She just had no balance whatsoever. You could tell her husband, who was also in the class, was pushing it on her though. She didn't seem real interested in riding. He thought he was a lot better than he was too. Was trying to up show everyone. He apparently had been riding for "years" and I outperformed him in every exercise and never had even been on a bike in motion before the class. Took him forever to get the figure 8 exercise.

[Flexin]

Wow, Im surprised everyone else has had such experiences. Even people I know that have no business being on bikes have made it through without dropping their bikes. Maybe our teachers are more laid back or the style has something to do with it. Was anyones MSF fast paced or seemed rather intense?

Mine wasn't fast paced but at least two dropped the bike at least once. It was during slow speed turns. During the test one guy put a foot down a few times but I don't think anyone dropped a bike during the test.

James

[MissHell]

Wow, ya'll must have some ROUGH msf classes. In the time I've been riding and out of the many riders I know, not a soul has ever crashed in an MSF course. Down here, you crash you fail, so no one crashes! :dthumb:
My co-worker recently took MSF, he said THREE people dropped their bikes. I think a full class is 12. :idk:

For the record, no one in my class dropped their bikes. :)