Does This Camera Make My Butt Look Big?

[Amber Lamps]

I forgot to tighten the mount down! :lol: BTW the sound sucks on these things big time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdkUMCwLnAo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXAHLxtD8lY

[ericr]

Yes Tigger, yes it does!!! Good thing you got the wide angle :lol:

:runaway:

[Amber Lamps]

Yes Tigger, yes it does!!! Good thing you got the wide angle :lol:

:runaway:

I wonder if they're planning to make an "extra wide angle" model anytime soon?:sorry:

[ericr]

Nah, other than the bouncing camera tricks it looked good (the video, no ass love from me ;) ) :lol:

THat's a good way to critique yourself though.

[tached1000rr]

Now that's a HUGE ASS! Just messing with ya Tigger, way to get that front wheel up on the 2nd video:rockwoot:

[Particle Man]

is that a lense cap or strap bouncin' around?

[Smittie61984]

Squids and their gixxers.

If you could throw that camera to the side it'd be freaking sweet!!!

By the way with my GoPro camera I emailed their warranty place and they said to send it in and they'd replace/fix it if it is a warranty problem. It should have arrived to their place yesterday and hopefully I can get it back in the next week or two (Depending on how long it takes them). But thanks for the idea about sending it in!

[TYEster]

Ok so I checked out your YouTube profile and watched all of your vids. Your handling and turn-ins look great! Except........

















Where the hell are the turns? I mean, the TURNS, not the super long sweepers or intersetions and stop signs you run. I tried to see if you actually had some justification behind your behaviour toward me in the tire thread. So far the only thing I see besides you living out in BFE, are those strips on your tires in your signature lol. Please prove me wrong at least once.

*Oh by the way - I'm ONLY referring to Tigger about this, not ALL gixxer owners, not ALL people who live in BFE, not ALL people who ride the tires he has, not ALL people who talk shit online, not ALL the people who film their ass and put it on YouTube, etc... Since Tigger likes to assume all of the above, I'm just keeping the air clear first.

[101lifts2]

Ok so I checked out your YouTube profile and watched all of your vids. Your handling and turn-ins look great! Except........
Where the hell are the turns? I mean, the TURNS, not the super long sweepers or intersetions and stop signs you run. I tried to see if you actually had some justification behind your behaviour toward me in the tire thread. So far the only thing I see besides you living out in BFE, are those strips on your tires in your signature lol. Please prove me wrong at least once.

*Oh by the way - I'm ONLY referring to Tigger about this, not ALL gixxer owners, not ALL people who live in BFE, not ALL people who ride the tires he has, not ALL people who talk shit online, not ALL the people who film their ass and put it on YouTube, etc... Since Tigger likes to assume all of the above, I'm just keeping the air clear first.

LOL..why do you have a camera facing the front that hits ur ass?

I agree..where are the turns? I thought NC had good roads, no?

[Amber Lamps]

What sign running? Oh the rolling stops! Yea, there's not a lot of traffic so... I don't remember giving you a lot of shit about how you ride, what are you talking about? Most of the really good roads are up north where Yammerhaw and those guys live sorry. We plan on filming the trip to the gap so maybe I'll have better vids then. As far as why I had the camera facing my ass, well it's been done before and me and Trip were discussing it in another thread, so I thought I'd try it. Believe me, I'm not impressed either. Oh wait, are we talking about the "don't cross the double yellow" argument? yea, I don't think that a good idea... Or is it the "stunters vs knee draggers" argument? I think both things are the same and knee draggers (on public roads) don't have any right to point fingers at stunters IMHO. Hey, I get in all kinds of arguments, I don't even try to remember them all! :lol:

[tached1000rr]

Let me help your memory Tigger, it's the guys running a 200 or 190 rear is a moron argument:whistle:

[TYEster]

What sign running? Oh the rolling stops! Yea, there's not a lot of traffic so... I don't remember giving you a lot of shit about how you ride, what are you talking about? Most of the really good roads are up north where Yammerhaw and those guys live sorry. We plan on filming the trip to the gap so maybe I'll have better vids then. As far as why I had the camera facing my ass, well it's been done before and me and Trip were discussing it in another thread, so I thought I'd try it. Believe me, I'm not impressed either. Oh wait, are we talking about the "don't cross the double yellow" argument? yea, I don't think that a good idea... Or is it the "stunters vs knee draggers" argument? I think both things are the same and knee draggers (on public roads) don't have any right to point fingers at stunters IMHO. Hey, I get in all kinds of arguments, I don't even try to remember them all! :lol:

No I'm not starting ANYTHING other than trying to figure out where you come off telling me I'm a moron because my bike has the wrong sized tire. You need not make so many "danged" assumptions.

It looks like you do have the perfect size for that riding. I ride different style roads, ones with turns so having a bike that handles good, would be optimal. Since that tire does not make my bike optimal, I wanted to see if you knew what you were talking about. And I don't really care about your traffic situation, I pass people too, RARELY do I cross the line because I worry about slipping on the paint, which is why I take it to track. But knock yourself out and ride how you want, it's a free country.

It'd be nice to see footage from the Gap, everyone who's ever been seems to have a great time and vids to prove it. Just kinda wondering what the point in your tire argument was since in my ignorance, just can't seem to find it.

[Amber Lamps]

Oh "chicken strips", yea I never take the tire all the way to the edge. I have a more point and shoot type of riding style. It's something that I need to work on. I never claimed to be the fastest guy alive or anything. I think I went off on you because you were talking a bunch of wanna be racer bullshit. Anyway, I haven't lived here that long ( plus I hit a deer, which shook me up some! ) so I haven't found any really, really good roads as of yet. I am looking though.:wink:

[TYEster]

Let me help your memory Tigger, it's the guys running a 200 or 190 rear is a moron argument:whistle:

No it's the "MY tire is too flat for my bike and MY STYLE OF RIDING" VS His upright riding argument.

Don't know or care who runs a 200. Although bending the tire down to fit the rim would pretty much produce the same results as just buying the size I'd need however I won't spend the extra $30 to get that 200 rear. I don't want a flat tire on my bike, plain n simple.

[TYEster]

Oh "chicken strips", yea I never take the tire all the way to the edge. I have a more point and shoot type of riding style. It's something that I need to work on. I never claimed to be the fastest guy alive or anything. I think I went off on you because you were talking a bunch of wanna be racer bullshit. Anyway, I haven't lived here that long ( plus I hit a deer, which shook me up some! ) so I haven't found any really, really good roads as of yet. I am looking though.:wink:

But I'm not a wannabe racer??? I just want my bike to handle as best it can since I seem to like riding the track alot.

And I assumed a flat(er) tire would hurt the handling.

[Amber Lamps]

Let me help your memory Tigger, it's the guys running a 200 or 190 rear is a moron argument:whistle:

Oh yea... next post.

[Amber Lamps]

No I'm not starting ANYTHING other than trying to figure out where you come off telling me I'm a moron because my bike has the wrong sized tire. You need not make so many "danged" assumptions.

It looks like you do have the perfect size for that riding. I ride different style roads, ones with turns so having a bike that handles good, would be optimal. Since that tire does not make my bike optimal, I wanted to see if you knew what you were talking about. And I don't really care about your traffic situation, I pass people too, RARELY do I cross the line because I worry about slipping on the paint, which is why I take it to track. But knock yourself out and ride how you want, it's a free country.

It'd be nice to see footage from the Gap, everyone who's ever been seems to have a great time and vids to prove it. Just kinda wondering what the point in your tire argument was since in my ignorance, just can't seem to find it.



Whoa stud! Ok you were the one making the statement that "anyone running a 190 is a moron" not me. Furthermore, you were the guy claiming to have "a special wide rim" that made it necessary for you to use a narrower tire to get the best handling.

What type of riding either of us do, has no bearing on the fact that you didn't know what width rim your bike came with and that you apparently, didn't know what size tire your bike came with because you accused the previous owner of being a "moron" for running a 190/50 on that bike.

You made it a point that YOU know better because you take your bike to the track. I pointed out that the race teams in WSB including the champion Troy Corser ran 200 series tires. I do know quite a lot about motorcycles, about racing and I even know a bit about stunting.

A few YouTube videos don't prove that your rim is "especially wide" nor that you are even right about a narrower tire being better for handling on EVERY bike, EVERY rider or EVERY road. When you change from a 190 to a 180 or 200, you affect much more than just the tire "width". You potentially change the rear ride height, thus affecting the rake and trail to some degree which will effect handling.

As I pointed out in that thread, a lot has to do with the brand/model of tire and how they are constructed. You can have the same sized rim and two different tires of the same "series" and they will have two different circumferences and "straight line" widths. For example, I have BT-016s on my bike at present. I have just received BT-002 RS tires this week. The rear 002 is obviously a more "race" oriented tire in that it has a much more "v" profile that the 016 does. It is going to look "narrower" on the rim and the bike will be taller in the rear which will of course facilitate initial turn in. Hopefully, it won't adversely affect stability at high speed or I will have to alter my suspension set-up and/or riding style to compensate.

[Amber Lamps]

But I'm not a wannabe racer??? I just want my bike to handle as best it can since I seem to like riding the track alot.

And I assumed a flat(er) tire would hurt the handling.


Yep, ASSumed did you? I don't know what brand of tire you have on there but again, depending on the tire, "stretching" a 180 on to a 6" rim can actually cause the tire to be/look "flat. Think about it. I mean, hey go for broke and order a 160 if you want the absolute best handling bike,right?

[TYEster]

Whoa stud! Ok you were the one making the statement that "anyone running a 190 is a moron" not me.

Nope never said ANYONE. Just the previous owner of my bike. :read:

Furthermore, you were the guy claiming to have "a special wide rim" that made it necessary for you to use a narrower tire to get the best handling.

Review of the 06 ZX10 said the rim was made wider than the previous year. Never said "special".

What type of riding either of us do, has no bearing on the fact that you didn't know what width rim your bike came with and that you apparently, didn't know what size tire your bike came with because you accused the previous owner of being a "moron" for running a 190/50 on that bike.

OMG! I DO know he put the wrong size tire on it.

You made it a point that YOU know better because you take your bike to the track. I pointed out that the race teams in WSB including the champion Troy Corser ran 200 series tires. I do know quite a lot about motorcycles, about racing and I even know a bit about stunting.

Ya I can tell by your awesome wheelies.

A few YouTube videos don't prove that your rim is "especially wide" nor that you are even right about a narrower tire being better for handling on EVERY bike, EVERY rider or EVERY road. When you change from a 190 to a 180 or 200, you affect much more than just the tire "width". You potentially change the rear ride height, thus affecting the rake and trail to some degree which will effect handling.

As I pointed out in that thread, a lot has to do with the brand/model of tire and how they are constructed. You can have the same sized rim and two different tires of the same "series" and they will have two different circumferences and "straight line" widths. For example, I have BT-016s on my bike at present. I have just received BT-002 RS tires this week. The rear 002 is obviously a more "race" oriented tire in that it has a much more "v" profile that the 016 does. It is going to look "narrower" on the rim and the bike will be taller in the rear which will of course facilitate initial turn in. Hopefully, it won't adversely affect stability at high speed or I will have to alter my suspension set-up and/or riding style to compensate.

K. This was uh, exactly my point. Thanks for reaffirming.

[TYEster]

Yep, ASSumed did you? I don't know what brand of tire you have on there but again, depending on the tire, "stretching" a 180 on to a 6" rim can actually cause the tire to be/look "flat. Think about it. I mean, hey go for broke and order a 160 if you want the absolute best handling bike,right?

Hey you were doing it right? Since I was refering to ALL 190 rear tire owners....


Or not. Ignorant? Pot kettle black.

[101lifts2]

Can one of you two link me to the tire thread? I would like to own both of you. LOL

Tye, if your talking about the ZX10r, it came stock with a 190/50, but I put a 190/55 on it and had suspension work done. If the rim can allow (smaller rims will actually make a 190 have less contact patch then a 180) a larger tire, it usually best to put a larger size if your concern is about contact patch. Usually you can get a bike to turn quick with chassis/suspension setup, but powering out of the corners requires grip. This is why GP racers run 200s...bike turns very well, but there is so much power they need the little extra contact patch. Would I run a 200? No, but a 190 on a liter is better than a 180, but a 180 on a 600 is usually better than a 190 unless the rim is wider.

[Amber Lamps]

Nope never said ANYONE. Just the previous owner of my bike. :read:

Hey brainiac, the stock tire size for a 2005 ZX-10 is a 190/50/17. There is NOTHING wrong with replacing the rear tire with the size the bike came with and the size that it was engineered to use. Besides, 2CTs are awesome street tires, no one ever said they were good for track days. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight and complaining about the knife's lack of performance.



Review of the 06 ZX10 said the rim was made wider than the previous year. Never said "special".

Another direct quote from you, you are right in a way. You said you rim is "extra wide" and "different" from mine.

*I was refering to my tires btw, not yours. If you could see mine, they almost literally looked squared off when I picked my bike up. Plus I like em coming to a "sharp" point, for a quick drop in/drop down, whatever you call it. My rim is apparently made extra wide to fit the bigger tire, and thus putting a lower profile on it leaves it handling less than optimal.(or at least says the physics in my head)



OMG! I DO know he put the wrong size tire on it.

This is a DIRECT quote from you stating that the previous owner was a moron for putting a 190/50 on the bike!!

"However I have 2CTs Pilots on there now which are fairly new. They're actually starting to wear to a point now Whereas before the moron before me who traded the bike in on a harley, decided flat and wide was a better tire choice. (190/50 )"



Ya I can tell by your awesome wheelies.

Ummm, I wasn't making a stunt video.....:lol: or even a "look how fast I am video". Quit frankly, the whole thing was a joke that only a fucktard like you would take seriously. I never claimed to be dragging knee or doing tricks. Look at the title to this thread, you couldn't tell it was just for fun?:lol:



K. This was uh, exactly my point. Thanks for reaffirming.

Ummm...what's your point? Both of these Bridgestone tires are 190/50/17s but their profiles are different. The tire's "size" isn't the deciding factor, it's the tire's construction that is the deciding factor... You know what? Go ahead and put a 180 on that bike. Let me know how you like that high side, Sparky!

[Amber Lamps]

Can one of you two link me to the tire thread? I would like to own both of you. LOL

Tye, if your talking about the ZX10r, it came stock with a 190/50, but I put a 190/55 on it and had suspension work done. If the rim can allow (smaller rims will actually make a 190 have less contact patch then a 180) a larger tire, it usually best to put a larger size if your concern is about contact patch. Usually you can get a bike to turn quick with chassis/suspension setup, but powering out of the corners requires grip. This is why GP racers run 200s...bike turns very well, but there is so much power they need the little extra contact patch. Would I run a 200? No, but a 190 on a liter is better than a 180, but a 180 on a 600 is usually better than a 190 unless the rim is wider.


You ain't owning nothing buddy! I pointed out that his bike has a 6" rim just like all liter class sport bikes. 600s have a 5.5" rim and that's why they take a 180 series tire. BTW I mentioned chassis setup, he's not interested. He thinks he's gonna solve all his problems with a 180 series or a 190/55 tire. Whatever, who cares?

For the record, my suspension has been upgraded by Racetech (springs,fluid and emulator-forks and spring,fluid,valve kit-shock), my forks are 8mm down in the triples and my shock is 6mm up at the mount. I considered the swing arm pivot inserts but I'm not that serious. Hell, the only reason I did all this shit was because I had a lowside just before winter in Mi (day after Thanksgiving) when I first got the bike so I had insurance money and a BUNCH of time!:lol:

[Homeslice]

Besides, 2CTs are awesome street tires, no one ever said they were good for track days.

Actually they ARE good for track days, unless you have more than just 4-5 trackdays under your belt and have gotten good enough to ride in the advanced groups, in which case you might start pressing the limits of that tire, especially on a hot day. Otherwise, buying a better tire is a waste of money for 99% of riders out there. It cracks me up how people pay up the ass for the latest tires even though they've only been to the track a couple of times, if at all. I'm not talking about you since I don't know anything about you, just riders in general. A pro or even just a club racer could blow away any of you guys on STOCK tires against any of you guys riding on your high-priced tires.

I always hear people around my neck of the woods saying "Oh I need more grip, I'm gettin loose out there" :rolleyes: .....And they are just riding the street. :lmao: How about these guys practice some throttle control, good lines, and body position first.

But hey, if people want to buy $350 sets of soft tires that only last 3-4K miles on the street, more power to them........It helps the oil industry I guess.

Flame suit ON :lmao:

[TYEster]

Hey brainiac, the stock tire size for a 2006 ZX-10 is a 190/50/17. There is NOTHING wrong with replacing the rear tire with the size the bike came with and the size that it was engineered to use. Besides, 2CTs are awesome street tires, no one ever said they were good for track days. You're bringing a knife to a gunfight and complaining about the knife's lack of performance.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/riding/reviews/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

Tell me where it says it comes with that size tire.

[TYEster]

Can one of you two link me to the tire thread? I would like to own both of you. LOL

Tye, if your talking about the ZX10r, it came stock with a 190/50, but I put a 190/55 on it and had suspension work done. If the rim can allow (smaller rims will actually make a 190 have less contact patch then a 180) a larger tire, it usually best to put a larger size if your concern is about contact patch. Usually you can get a bike to turn quick with chassis/suspension setup, but powering out of the corners requires grip. This is why GP racers run 200s...bike turns very well, but there is so much power they need the little extra contact patch. Would I run a 200? No, but a 190 on a liter is better than a 180, but a 180 on a 600 is usually better than a 190 unless the rim is wider.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/riding/reviews/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

Check again!

And I know need a little more grip coming out the turns. I seem to be a leaving a few black marks on some exits(and mid-turns). Smooth consistent throttle control has earned me a little less grip.

For Homeslice -

I ride the track, and after the 2 sessions I've run this year, the tires are breakin lose. Mostly on exit, BUT slightly in the turns. But I will and can agree good lines and body position are key and still something I, and almost everyone who rides the track, can always learn on.

[Amber Lamps]

Actually they ARE good for track days, unless you have more than just 4-5 trackdays under your belt and have gotten good enough to ride in the advanced groups, in which case you might start pressing the limits of that tire, especially on a hot day. Otherwise, buying a better tire is a waste of money for 99% of riders out there. It cracks me up how people pay up the ass for the latest tires even though they've only been to the track a couple of times, if at all. I'm not talking about you since I don't know anything about you, just riders in general. A pro or even just a club racer could blow away any of you guys on STOCK tires against any of you guys riding on your high-priced tires.

I always hear people around my neck of the woods saying "Oh I need more grip, I'm gettin loose out there" :rolleyes: .....And they are just riding the street. :lmao: How about these guys practice some throttle control, good lines, and body position first.

But hey, if people want to buy $350 sets of soft tires that only last 3-4K miles on the street, more power to them........It helps the oil industry I guess.

Flame suit ON :lmao:


Oh I agree with this statement but shit, if you ever have read any of my posts you know that I don't pay top dollar for ANYTHING! After a whole bunch of wrangling, I ended up paying $180 shipped for the set of BT-002s sitting in my living room. If you know anybody stupid enough to pay $350 for a set of tires, send them my way. I'll make a hundred a set off of them! The only "exception" I take to what you've said is that regardless of how you ride, I don't see anything wrong with wanting to have the best equipment available. Whether it be tires, or gear or frankly, anything.:idk:

Besides, didn't you watch this video? You know EVERYTHING about me! How I ride or have ever ridden. How long of wheelies I am capable of. How fast I am capable of going. What kind of curves I am able to negotiate. Yep, I'm an open book. This is all there is wrapped up in two 4 minute videos.....

[Amber Lamps]

http://www.amadirectlink.com/riding/reviews/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

Tell me where it says it comes with that size tire.


You know what? You are absolutely right! I'm a dumbass! I could have sworn you had a 2005 ZX-10 but you have a 2006! Oh well, the joke is on me! I'm sure that you'll be much happier once you fit the 190/55/17 to your bike. The guy that owned your bike was a moron! He probably didn't want to fork out the extra cash for the 190/55 tire. Geez, that's what I get for not checking the year of the bike better. Sorry about that. Good luck with your racing career!

[Amber Lamps]

Can one of you two link me to the tire thread? I would like to own both of you. LOL

Tye, if your talking about the ZX10r, it came stock with a 190/50, but I put a 190/55 on it and had suspension work done. If the rim can allow (smaller rims will actually make a 190 have less contact patch then a 180) a larger tire, it usually best to put a larger size if your concern is about contact patch. Usually you can get a bike to turn quick with chassis/suspension setup, but powering out of the corners requires grip. This is why GP racers run 200s...bike turns very well, but there is so much power they need the little extra contact patch. Would I run a 200? No, but a 190 on a liter is better than a 180, but a 180 on a 600 is usually better than a 190 unless the rim is wider.


Psst... the 2006 did come with a 190/55/17 tire.... I thought that he had a 2005 ZX-10... and because what size tire he wanted to install was never mentioned, I thought he wanted to put a 180/55/17 on his bike... Oh well, at least I'm not a moron all by myself!:lol:

[TYEster]

You know what? You are absolutely right! I'm a dumbass! I could have sworn you had a 2005 ZX-10 but you have a 2006! Oh well, the joke is on me! I'm sure that you'll be much happier once you fit the 190/55/17 to your bike. The guy that owned your bike was a moron! He probably didn't want to fork out the extra cash for the 190/55 tire. Geez, that's what I get for not checking the year of the bike better. Sorry about that. Good luck with your racing career!

*underneath my avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kyle
Moto: 06 ZX10R, 05 GSXR750(hers)
Posts: 62



Again where you get the idea I'm a racer is beyond me. But since you always want to jump ahead, that's fine. However I don't quite see myself as a future racer.

[TYEster]

Psst... the 2006 did come with a 190/55/17 tire.... I thought that he had a 2005 ZX-10... and because what size tire he wanted to install was never mentioned, I thought he wanted to put a 180/55/17 on his bike... Oh well, at least I'm not a moron all by myself!:lol:
LOL there you go again ASSuming.

BTW here's a quick recon/recap for ya:

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=7299
Post#10(including the OPpost)
(for me 190/55)

[Amber Lamps]

*underneath my avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kyle
Moto: 06 ZX10R, 05 GSXR750(hers)
Posts: 62



Again where you get the idea I'm a racer is beyond me. But since you always want to jump ahead, that's fine. However I don't quite see myself as a future racer.


Because you are constantly emphasizing that you ride on the track. On the track this, and on the track that. Anyway, I didn't start this thread to discuss tire handling characteristics or whatever... I'm trying to get my camera set-up for Deal's Gap and I really only was looking for comments on the CAMERA'S performance. I could have shot video cruising the strip, looking at chicks for that matter.

[Amber Lamps]

LOL there you go again ASSuming.


Nope, I didn't ASSume anything, I glanced at you avvy too fast and saw the 2005 of your girl's bike and superimposed the date. Simple. What I really don't understand is why you came on my thread, which was supposed to be a joke about my big ass and a discussion of how good/bad the GoPro camera works, to talk about tire sizes and what not...:idk: I've already said that you were right, what else do you want?

[TYEster]

Nope, I didn't ASSume anything, I glanced at you avvy too fast and saw the 2005 of your girl's bike and superimposed the date. Simple. What I really don't understand is why you came on my thread, which was supposed to be a joke about my big ass and a discussion of how good/bad the GoPro camera works, to talk about tire sizes and what not...:idk: I've already said that you were right, what else do you want?


LOL How do you like your camera? Well aside from the strap thing... Kinda interested in one.

[Amber Lamps]

LOL there you go again ASSuming.

BTW here's a quick recon/recap for ya:

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=7299
Post#10(including the OPpost)
(for me 190/55)



Yay! You're right! Okay, I get it. You have a 190/50/17 on your bike currently and you want to replace it with a 190/55/17 to bask in the glory of the better handling that size tire provides. Hurray! Yeesh, again what do you want from me ?

YOU were right, I was wrong!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bowtome: :bowtome: :bowtome: :bowtome: :bowtome: :bowtome: :bowtome:

[TYEster]

LOL there must be some severe lag going on here... I said that 5min before your post acknowledging me.

*oops had to edit spelling error before 101 came on here thrashing me for not passing the 5th grade lol

[Amber Lamps]

LOL there must be some severe lag going on here... I said that 5min before your post acknowledging me.

*oops had to edit spelling error before 101 came on here thrashing me for not passing the 5th grade lol

Nope I posted that you were right at 12:03 pm.... I'm at the dyno reprogramming my power commander so I'm not anxiously waiting for your next post. Anyway, I hope that you enjoy your new tires. Good luck.

Oh if you ever want to find video of me doing wheelies, try to find an original copy of 626 Michigan Mayhem. I'm on there doing a 2+ mile long stand-up, wearing a Tigger costume, while riding my 2000 Hayabusa. Otherwise, I'm also in the original 1096 video doing an almost 160 mph wheelie on my 2001 GSXR1000. I had four friends die that year on bikes, gave up "stunting" and almost quit riding period.

[101lifts2]

http://www.amadirectlink.com/riding/reviews/2006/ZX10R/ZX10R.asp

Tell me where it says it comes with that size tire.

Oh yeah...it comes with a 190/55..now I remember. A 190/50 is going to make the already very very lazy chassis more lazy. The 2006 ZX10R has a shitty chassis that I've heard from nearly all of the suspension guys here in CA.It cost me 1700 to upgrade (Penske triple clicker plus GP revalving in the front...(Racetech is crap IMO..lol)) and it was totally night and day. The thing then turned about the same as my 600rr stock.

[101lifts2]

Actually they ARE good for track days, unless you have more than just 4-5 trackdays under your belt and have gotten good enough to ride in the advanced groups, in which case you might start pressing the limits of that tire, especially on a hot day. Otherwise, buying a better tire is a waste of money for 99% of riders out there. It cracks me up how people pay up the ass for the latest tires even though they've only been to the track a couple of times, if at all. I'm not talking about you since I don't know anything about you, just riders in general. A pro or even just a club racer could blow away any of you guys on STOCK tires against any of you guys riding on your high-priced tires.

I always hear people around my neck of the woods saying "Oh I need more grip, I'm gettin loose out there" :rolleyes: .....And they are just riding the street. :lmao: How about these guys practice some throttle control, good lines, and body position first.

But hey, if people want to buy $350 sets of soft tires that only last 3-4K miles on the street, more power to them........It helps the oil industry I guess.

Flame suit ON :lmao:

I would never recommend street tires on the track. They don't offer the grip out of the corners nor can they take the heat like race tires. They get greasy in the afternoon sessions. I've known several people to crash running 2cts that got they claim got "greasy".

LOL there must be some severe lag going on here... I said that 5min before your post acknowledging me.

*oops had to edit spelling error before 101 came on here thrashing me for not passing the 5th grade lol


I called him out over spacing..not spelling / grammar.

[Homeslice]

I would never recommend street tires on the track. They don't offer the grip out of the corners nor can they take the heat like race tires. They get greasy in the afternoon sessions. I've known several people to crash running 2cts that got they claim got "greasy".
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If you're in the middle of a SoCal summer maybe, but in the late fall or spring I don't see the issue unless they are an experienced track rider. But someone who's only on his 3rd or 4th trackday isn't really going to be tearing it up.

[101lifts2]

If you're in the middle of a SoCal summer maybe, but in the late fall or spring I don't see the issue unless they are an experienced track rider. But someone who's only on his 3rd or 4th trackday isn't really going to be tearing it up.

Yeah sure...if the day is cool no problem.

[Amber Lamps]

If you're in the middle of a SoCal summer maybe, but in the late fall or spring I don't see the issue unless they are an experienced track rider. But someone who's only on his 3rd or 4th trackday isn't really going to be tearing it up.

You're probably right but I posted a deal for Michelin Power Race tires with 1) Front and 3) rears for about $400 shipped. Your problem was guys spending too much money right? If you can get the "best" for the same cash, why not? :idk:

[101lifts2]

You're probably right but I posted a deal for Michelin Power Race tires with 1) Front and 3) rears for about $400 shipped. Your problem was guys spending too much money right? If you can get the "best" for the same cash, why not? :idk:

Those aren't the PRC front and the triple compound rear..that deal was for the old Power Races, which weren't all that great as compared to the PRC/003/D209/D211.

[Amber Lamps]

Those aren't the PRC front and the triple compound rear..that deal was for the old Power Races, which weren't all that great as compared to the PRC/003/D209/D211.

It was a PRC front but I'm not sure about the rear, you're probably right but WTF now the tires aren't GOOD enough for the trackday guys? Yeesh dude, they have to be as good or better on the track as the 2CTs... Ok I give up you win. The latest and greatest rubber is TOO good and last year's rubber isn't good enough.:idk:

[101lifts2]

It was a PRC front but I'm not sure about the rear, you're probably right but WTF now the tires aren't GOOD enough for the trackday guys? Yeesh dude, they have to be as good or better on the track as the 2CTs... Ok I give up you win. The latest and greatest rubber is TOO good and last year's rubber isn't good enough.:idk:

The rear doesn't matter..but I'm telling you the PRC is a HELLA front tire. Feel and stickiness on the front brakes is hard to match...prolly the BEST DOT front race tire out there, but it doesn't last all too long (2 days maybe).

Dude its really not too much a matter of grip nowadays, moreso a matter of longevity. The BT003 will last me 2 trackdays at a mid B pack group pace whereas the old Michielins would last me 1 day and the new D211s last about 3-4 days.

[shmike]

It was a PRC front but I'm not sure about the rear, you're probably right but WTF now the tires aren't GOOD enough for the trackday guys? Yeesh dude, they have to be as good or better on the track as the 2CTs... Ok I give up you win. The latest and greatest rubber is TOO good and last year's rubber isn't good enough.:idk:

It was a GREAT deal.

It was a PRC front and you could get the PR3 rears.

That is the exact combo that a number of guys (including myself for a while) use as RACE tires. Don't be fooled by 101's ignorance, those are top notch buns. :dthumb:

[Amber Lamps]

It was a GREAT deal.

It was a PRC front and you could get the PR3 rears.

That is the exact combo that a number of guys (including myself for a while) use as RACE tires. Don't be fooled by 101's ignorance, those are top notch buns. :dthumb:

Thankyou! Yeesh, I'm not a Michelin guy myself but that was a SMOKIN' FUCKING DEAL! I mean you can't buy 4 Tomahawk tires for that money. Anyone, that does primarily track days should be all over that deal IMHO!