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DLIT
05-18-2009, 08:44 PM
It involves computers from a '08 and '09 R6, and swapping them. The one to benefit is the '09 R6 by having the '08 computer in it. This guy I know who owns a shop has a buddy that works for Graves and he leaked the swap news to him. So the shop owner had a guy with a '09 R6, ran it on the dyno, came in at 99rwhp. Simply put the '08 computer in and it came in at 105rwhp. A gain of 6.6 hp at the wheel!

So...long story short, I know another guy who runs a dealership and has this '08 R6 that they're pretty much never gonna sell (long story). it has 850 miles on it. So me, being persistent when it comes to hp gains (especially when they're free), popped the question about him letting me swap the '08 for my '09. He says yes! Sweet. Just got home from doing the swap, started the bike up and runs fine. I'll be riding it to work tomorrow to see if I notice anything. I should notice a little bit with a 6 hp increase, I'm not expecting anything significant, but it should be something.

Turns out Yamaha detuned the '09s because of people dying on motorcycles. I'll let you guys know if there's a difference tomorrow.
Quick281
05-18-2009, 08:53 PM
Turns out Yamaha detuned the '09s because of people dying on motorcycles. I'll let you guys know if there's a difference tomorrow.


I am in no way doubting that a PCM swap won't increase power, but this being the reasoning seems absurd. Who at Yamaha thought that such a small detune would save lives? Sportbikes and saving lives can't be on the same side.
DLIT
05-18-2009, 08:56 PM
I am in no way doubting that a PCM swap won't increase power, but this being the reasoning seems absurd. Who at Yamaha thought that such a small detune would save lives? Sportbikes and saving lives can't be on the same side.

I hear ya.
racedoll
05-18-2009, 09:19 PM
So the shop owner had a guy with a '09 R6, ran it on the dyno, came in at 99rwhp. Simply put the '08 computer in and it came in at 105rwhp. A gain of 6.6 hp at the wheel!

Really? They are that low on horsepower? My 04 ZX6RR has 104. I thought mine was low compared to the new ones. I guess not.

As far as detuning them for safety. OK, it's similar to the govorner on a car but still. It is the responsibility of the person twisting the throttle.
DLIT
05-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Really? They are that low on horsepower? My 04 ZX6RR has 104. I thought mine was low compared to the new ones. I guess not.

As far as detuning them for safety. OK, it's similar to the govorner on a car but still. It is the responsibility of the person twisting the throttle.

Dynos are different everywhere. it may be higher on the dyno that you took the Kawi to.
racedoll
05-18-2009, 10:03 PM
Ah yes. I forgot about the calibration of them factoring into the numbers. Even still that seems low.
DLIT
05-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Ah yes. I forgot about the calibration of them factoring into the numbers. Even still that seems low.

That's what I'm chocking it up to, dynos being different. The powerband still pulls like mad!
marko138
05-19-2009, 09:12 AM
Makes sense. Everything I've read says the 09's are down on power from last year.
Rider
05-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Make sure you check the a/f ratio. You might have more top end but you could have a flat spot somewhere in the power band. Watch your torque curve as well. It may be a little more peaky than the stock setup.
Mr Lefty
05-19-2009, 10:28 AM
Interesting good score bro.

Retarded reasoning on yami's part if that's true.
Mikey
05-19-2009, 01:16 PM
Ah yes. I forgot about the calibration of them factoring into the numbers. Even still that seems low.

Yeah, it does. My '04 636 made 112 at the wheel on a Dynojet. That's a pretty serious fluxuation.
DLIT
05-19-2009, 07:20 PM
After riding to and from work today, I did feel something. The fact I got up to 165 indicated going into a strong head wind tells me something. Never felt a flat spot down low either. If anything, it felt better. I'm hoping to sell my helmet to get a power commander and get it custom mapped, so we'll see. Definitely not upset I made the swap.
racedoll
05-20-2009, 08:40 PM
After riding to and from work today, I did feel something. The fact I got up to 165 indicated going into a strong head wind tells me something. Never felt a flat spot down low either. If anything, it felt better. I'm hoping to sell my helmet to get a power commander and get it custom mapped, so we'll see. Definitely not upset I made the swap.

Selling the helmet to get a PC and more power doesn't seem quite right. I hope you have another helmet to wear once you have all this extra HP.
JoJoYZF
05-20-2009, 11:58 PM
Hes got a thread somewhere about his new helmet already.
DLIT
05-21-2009, 06:03 PM
Yeah, sold my recently made old helmet and the PCV should be installed here in a few hours. Putting in a map to hold me off until I have the money for a custom map. Can't wait!
Trip
05-21-2009, 06:13 PM
First time I seen this thread, this isn't exactly insider info. They published this in the 09 shootout in sport rider. They detuned the ECU for EPA.

Nice going finding one for free.
DLIT
05-21-2009, 06:49 PM
Didn't realize that, but glad I got told anyways. And from a Dynojet guy, the PCV will "unofficially" work on the '08 R6 ECU.
t-homo
05-21-2009, 08:37 PM
A friend of mine has an 08 R6 with a PC5 on it. He did that, -1+2, and full yosh system one day and turned the bike into a whole new beast.
DLIT
05-21-2009, 09:55 PM
Just put in my PC5 and gave it a map until I can get it custom mapped. I got stock gearing, t-tuner midpipe and a Akra slip-on. We'll see what happens tomorrow!

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u58/DLITALIEN/NewPipe002.jpg
racedoll
05-21-2009, 10:00 PM
Nice looking bike.
Mr Lefty
05-21-2009, 10:01 PM
D is that still the yellow rim stripes? or did you get them done in Gold? they still looke yellow to me... but couldn't tell for sure.

bike looks good otherwise
DLIT
05-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Gold. You're blind.
Mr Lefty
05-22-2009, 07:26 AM
Gold. You're blind.

:lol: probably right...
marko138
05-22-2009, 07:44 AM
:lol: probably right...
I can't have a blind MF'er in the Air Force. I hereby dismiss you of your duties.
Mr Lefty
05-22-2009, 07:55 AM
I can't have a blind MF'er in the Air Force. I hereby dismiss you of your duties.

I'm getting eye surgery in about a month... so hold off
marko138
05-22-2009, 07:59 AM
I'm getting eye surgery in about a month... so hold off
After further review, the board and myself are not prepared to grant this request.
Mr Lefty
05-22-2009, 08:08 AM
After further review, the board and myself are not prepared to grant this request.

God damn Buell Board.
marko138
05-22-2009, 08:10 AM
God damn Buell Board.
:lol:
Cutty72
05-22-2009, 01:25 PM
I'm getting eye surgery in about a month... so hold off

Yeah, but that does nothing for your color vision.
marko138
05-22-2009, 01:34 PM
Yeah, but that does nothing for your color vision.
ebbs is racist?
Trip
05-22-2009, 02:14 PM
ebbs is racist?

He also hates jews.
Mr Lefty
05-22-2009, 07:54 PM
He also hates jews.

i told you... not Jews... it's people with nose's bigger than mine
DLIT
05-22-2009, 10:40 PM
i told you... not Jews... it's people with nose's bigger than mine

So you hate nobody then?
Mr Lefty
05-23-2009, 09:44 AM
So you hate nobody then?

pretty much...


so I may have to throw another feature in there... like say eyebrows :lol:
DLIT
05-23-2009, 04:57 PM
Your face charges your nose rent.
marko138
05-24-2009, 04:29 PM
Your face charges your nose rent.
:bigrofl:
DLIT
05-30-2009, 07:31 PM
Went to a free dyno day. With the '08 computer, T-Tuner midpipe, PCV and an Akra slip-on I got 110.6 at the wheel. There was another, all stock '09 R6 there and it came in at 100 even at the wheel. I swapped my '08 computer for his '09 so he could run his bike again and it came in at 101. So not much of a gain at all. But I'm happy with my 110.