Rental question

[Tsunami]

When i moved in to my apt over 2 years ago, i have gave a security deposit and also a non refundable pet deposit, plus a monthly pet rent fee of $25.

I have been told that when i move out, Maintenance will pull my carpets and if there are any stains through the carpet backing they will charge me for full carpet. Well i pulled the carpet myself and saw some stains.

Is that legal? What the heck did i pay all this money for?

[derf]

Basically you gave them the money to ensure that they have it if you move out and the apartment is anything less than 100% perfect. Basically you really have no recourse against them if they want to take it, and from the sound of it they are going to take your money

[racedoll]

I think all those deposits should go toward the carpet replacement and anything else they might need to do.

If the place is perfect, then you should get your money back.

[Tsunami]

Actually let me clarify, just read my lease agreement.

I have a refundable deposit of $250 to move in and a $150 refundable pet deposit

A non refundable deposit of $200 for cleaning when i move out and another $300 non refundable pet deposit plus $20 bucks a month

They said they will charge me an additional $800 for carpet replacement which will be taken out of my refundable deposit and i will still owe them $400.

[G-Rex]

I would think deposits are supposed to cover that sort of thing. If they expect to replace the carpet of the units pet owners rent, then it seems to me the pet deposit should be equivalent to the cost of the carpet.

If the lease didn't specifically state that you will be responsible for the cost of carpet replacement when you leave, I'd tell them to stuff it.

[Tsunami]

If the lease didn't specifically state that you will be responsible for the cost of carpet replacement when you leave, I'd tell them to stuff it.

I read the agreement and it doesn't say anything about replacing carpets. I just said to clean.

If they send me to collections, i'm assuming i can fight that in small claims court? and at the BBB?

[2up]

Check and see if there is a tenants rights group in Nevada and if there is, contact them and find out what your rights really are. I can't imagine with all of the money they are making off of you every month for having a dog that they would want more, because of stains that are under the carpet. Hell, you don't even know if the stains were there before you because you didn't pull the carpet when you moved in. That kinda sounds like BS to me. They could charge every tenant for the same stains if they aren't visible on move-in.

[Homeslice]

Actually let me clarify, just read my lease agreement.

I have a refundable deposit of $250 to move in and a $150 refundable pet deposit

A non refundable deposit of $200 for cleaning when i move out and another $300 non refundable pet deposit plus $20 bucks a month

They said they will charge me an additional $800 for carpet replacement which will be taken out of my refundable deposit and i will still owe them $400.

I guess I don't understand.

How can a deposit be "non-refundable"........The word deposit means it's money on hold.

Either they need to use that money to clean your apt, or they don't.

If they don't, they need to return it to you.

So they are saying just the fact of owning a pet is going to result in $300 non-refundable cleaning costs, no matter if there aren't any stains at all?

[101lifts2]

So they get 500 bucks for nothing when you move out and you paid 240/yr for this pet? What did they collect an extra 550 for if they didn't expect anything more to be damaged (carpet) because of the pet? I never get these pet charges because they just charge you again for the shit the pet caused anyways.

['73 H1 Triple]

........ Hell, you don't even know if the stains were there before you because you didn't pull the carpet when you moved in. That kinda sounds like BS to me. They could charge every tenant for the same stains if they aren't visible on move-in.

For all you know they stained the padding before the carpet was put down. Nice way to guarantee extra money when a tenant moves out.

[Tsunami]

So they get 500 bucks for nothing when you move out and you paid 240/yr for this pet? What did they collect an extra 550 for if they didn't expect anything more to be damaged (carpet) because of the pet? I never get these pet charges because they just charge you again for the shit the pet caused anyways.

bingo

its not like Puggy is going around shitting and pissing everywhere but accidents do happen, mostly in one corner.

So i just spent 2 days on my hands and knees scrubbing carpet backing and i'm like WTF am i doing? I should just tell them to F themselves and if they charge me for carpet, take them to small claims court.

[Homeslice]

I have never heard of a non-refundable deposit. If it really is non-refundable, then it's a fee, not a deposit.

The $300 you paid for a "pet deposit" should be used towards the carpet, assuming there were stains. If not, it should be refunded.

[Tsunami]

I have never heard of a non-refundable deposit. If it really is non-refundable, then it's a fee, not a deposit.

The $300 you paid for a "pet deposit" should be used towards the carpet, assuming there were stains. If not, it should be refunded.

Well call it a fee then. My gripe is even if i had the carpet cleaned which they give me a free cleaning everytime i resign my lease (every 6-7 months) they will still pull my carpets and charge me for new carpet if they see stains. It doesn't matter if there are no stains on top.

2up- i couldn't find a tenants rights association but i did find nevada statutes for renters and my security deposit should cover normal wear and tear. I would say normal should cover a few pee stains, what do they expect in an apt with pets?

Seems like if they pull something funny i can fight it.

[LittleTaz]

That's crap, Gina, but they did the same thing to my daughter when she moved... Charged her 3 times the price it would actually cost to replace it. She even told them she would bring in someone and replace it herself, but they wouldn't do it...

[fasternyou929]

Had the same exact thing happen to me when I moved out of an apartment in FL. Fight them and see what you can get them to take off on their own, but they'll own you in court and destroy your credit in the blink of an eye. This isn't their first lease, and they're all written to protect the leasing companies.

Welcome to the world of terminating a lease. :(

[Tsunami]

Had the same exact thing happen to me when I moved out of an apartment in FL. Fight them and see what you can get them to take off on their own, but they'll own you in court and destroy your credit in the blink of an eye. This isn't their first lease, and they're all written to protect the leasing companies.

Welcome to the world of terminating a lease. :(

thats what i am afraid of, i don't want them messing with my credit.

The lease doesn't outline anything about replacing carpets, just cleaning. and other than a few stains, the carpet isn't beyond normal wear and tear. This management company is just trying to screw their tenants.

[101lifts2]

Gina you should look to buy a house in Las Vegas if you can afford it. You can get a nice house for 80K over there. Thinking about buying a 2nd property in Vegas.

[Tsunami]

Gina you should look to buy a house in Las Vegas if you can afford it. You can get a nice house for 80K over there. Thinking about buying a 2nd property in Vegas.

I am but at the moment i am unemployed and looking to go back to school. once benefits run out i'll be going back to work and looking to buy.

Right now Las Vegas govt is giving out grants for first time homebuyers for downpayments and also grants to renovate for certain areas. Not so much the ghetto i suppose, but just older neighborhoods. I have an orientation on June 3rd to check it out.

Buy a house here and rent it to me! i won't destroy your carpets, promise! :lol:

[101lifts2]

I am but at the moment i am unemployed and looking to go back to school. once benefits run out i'll be going back to work and looking to buy.

Right now Las Vegas govt is giving out grants for first time homebuyers for downpayments and also grants to renovate for certain areas. Not so much the ghetto i suppose, but just older neighborhoods. I have an orientation on June 3rd to check it out.

Buy a house here and rent it to me! i won't destroy your carpets, promise! :lol:

How much are u willing to pay?:dribble:

[Tsunami]

How much are u willing to pay?:dribble:

As long as its cheaper than my 1 bedroom which i am getting raped for. Granted its the nicest place i ever lived at, but i can mortgage a house for that. So no more than $970!

[Particle Man]

sounds like it's time for a party at your place - who cares if there are spills? :lol:

If they're gonna screw you , might as well get your moneys worth :lol:

[N2O Junkie]

let puggy crap and piss all over it before you move and get your $400 worth

[Tsunami]

let puggy crap and piss all over it before you move and get your $400 worth

More like $400 and then $800 out of pocket. I spoke to one of the girls at the leasing office and she told me new carpet for 844sq apt is $1200. of course not 844sq is carpeted because there is not carpet in the kitchen, bathroom and entrance. I told her that the laws here say that even if i were responsible for damages that it should be prorated for the life of the carpet. She was like yeah, don't forget to mention that then if they charge you. I'm like WTF? So if i didn't mention that i wouldnt have gotten screwed? Either i am going to fight it.

So

The carpet cleaning people just left. They lifted my carpet and cleaned the back too and everything came out really easy. So i don't know what the hell they are talking about that if there are stains in the back i need new carpet, because it was pretty freaking easy to clean. and they stretched and banged the carpet back in place, the place looks great.

I just went and took a bunch of pictures as proof!

[Homeslice]

Wait, they cleaned the back? How does that work?

[Tsunami]

Wait, they cleaned the back? How does that work?

they lifted the carpet off the tacks, folded it over, went to town on it, put it back, used their stretcher thing and banged it back down!

Its only on one corner of the apt where my dining area is. they folded maybe like a 7' by 7'. now i am loopy from the fumes!

[Homeslice]

So they steam cleaned the backside of the carpet, or the pad under it?

[G-Rex]

Its only on one corner of the apt where my dining area is. they folded maybe like a 7' by 7'. now i am loopy from the fumes!

Gina, you were loopy before the fumes! ;)

[Tsunami]

So they steam cleaned the backside of the carpet, or the pad under it?

backside

[Tsunami]

Gina, you were loopy before the fumes! ;)

hush, most people don't know that here yet! only the ones that have met me in person! :lol:

the fumes are actually making me hungry!

[101lifts2]

Hans quit being a dork..!!!!..The removed the carpet and steamed cleaned the backside. They may have even replaced a piece of the padding, but prolly not.

[zed]

I have never heard of anyone pulling a carpet to check for stains. check that you had the carpet cleaned or you did it yourself, sure but not pulling it up. I worked building maintenance for a while, when people moved out I would go in and check things over, fixed/repaired what I found but never was asked to pull a carpet up. now these apartments didn't cost anywhere near the 900 you were willing to pay for that other one (don't know what your rent is either) but some of the houses were probably in the 700 to 800 range. it was a fairly small town though.

[Tsunami]

turned in the keys tonight at the drop box. I am exhausted. I figured moving a little at a time over the course of a few days would be easier but the multiple trips to storage and the new place killed me. Mostly it was the loading and unloading everyday since Thursday.

I really don't have much and had downsized a lot, especially my wardrobe a couple of years back when i moved here to vegas. The big stuff was easy but all the little things, like the kitchen, clothes and misc things made it super tedious. Half my stuff is going to Goodwill. I am going to downsize some more so next time i move it would be easier. I really don't hoard stuff, but even with my decreasing wardrobe, i wear the same things 10% of my clothes over and over again anyway.


Next time i am going to pack everything and just Uhaul it over in one shot.

I have my walk through tomorrow so i'll update on what they say!

[Sixxxxer]

Good Luck!!!!

[Tsunami]

Walk through successful! The maintenance supervisor said that the carpet looked really good but he can still smell the pee. When i started scrubbing and using the chemicals it seemed to release or activate the smell. Even when they cleaned it, all the liquid seemed to make it smell worse because i didnt smell it before i started messing with it. I thought maybe it was because the carpet was still drying so i left the windows open all night.

He lifted that one area, and checked the back too and said it looked good, he'll just have the carpet people come back and put some granules on it to neutralize the odor which my cleaning fee "should" take care of. So no new carpet for me and looks like i should be getting my deposits all back! :rockwoot: I guess it also helps that i always talk to him when i see him. We bonded one day when he saw me tinkering with the bike outside and talked to me for like an hour :lol: Prior to that he never said a word to me even when i used to wave to him everytime i see him.

He went down the checklist but everything looked good even down to the paint since George the other maintenance guy has been touching up my apt on sundays since he is the only one there on sundays and is bored so he comes and hangs out. He also gave me pointers on what to do so i dont' get dinged. I saw him before i left today and told him that all is good and he was so happy like we had bucked the system together :lol: