Cleveland tourism video

[derf]

Cleveland, its where I wanna go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

[JoJoYZF]

That video was all over the news here because of how it makes cleveland seem like a bad city to visit.

Hate to break it to them, but it is.

[Trip]

That's hilarious

[JoJoYZF]

And true.

[derf]

I was up in Buffallo today and some dude on the radio was saying how Buffallo is totally worse than Cleveland (From what I've seen I totally tend to agree). The worst part is that it was really part of a tourism promotion and the people got pissed off at the guy for making the video. The winner of the promotion got a 2 night stay in Cleveland and a free dinner. WTF the only people who would enter the contest are from Cleveland, and why in the hell would you want to win a trip to ... wait for it ... just wait for it ... HOME!!!! WTF!?!

[JoJoYZF]

I was up in Buffallo today and some dude on the radio was saying how Buffallo is totally worse than Cleveland (From what I've seen I totally tend to agree). The worst part is that it was really part of a tourism promotion and the people got pissed off at the guy for making the video. The winner of the promotion got a 2 night stay in Cleveland and a free dinner. WTF the only people who would enter the contest are from Cleveland, and why in the hell would you want to win a trip to ... wait for it ... just wait for it ... HOME!!!! WTF!?!

If thats the case Im not going to buffalo. I dont hate cleveland, its just too boring. Theres no jobs, nothing exciting going on downtown, nothing that really makes me want to stay.

[derf]

Yeh fuck cleveland, and anyone that lives there. I bet that if someone lived there they are automatically born with a plastic spork in their mouth. Cleveland is just a shitty place. I tried to plug it in my GPS today, and it created an error message, so then I looked it up on a map and apparently it's really just a big black hole in Ohio. Yeh people from Cleveland suck.

So how you doin' JoJoYZF

[Smittie61984]

My buddy went to Cleveland once and after a night of heavy drinking couldn't find a single place that had Sweat Tea. No need to build a wall to keep me out that was enough for me.

[Homeslice]

My buddy went to Cleveland once and after a night of heavy drinking couldn't find a single place that had Sweat Tea. No need to build a wall to keep me out that was enough for me.

Sweet Tea can EAD as far as I'm concerned. I'll add my own sugar to my tea, thank you.

[canibeyou]

Now you know I have to forward that on to my friend who lives in Cleveland! :lol

[Smittie61984]

Sweet Tea can EAD as far as I'm concerned. I'll add my own sugar to my tea, thank you.

you can't make proper sweet tea by adding your own sugar if ice is already in it. But you Yankee folks wouldn't understand.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

seen this one before, and everything about that video is true. I've been to both of their buildings and all the resturants/clubs in the video... *sigh*

havent been to cleveland in prolly 2 years now, best thing about it is an airport that can take you away from the city.

[JoJoYZF]

seen this one before, and everything about that video is true. I've been to both of their buildings and all the resturants/clubs in the video... *sigh*

havent been to cleveland in prolly 2 years now, best thing about it is an airport that can take you away from the city.

That pretty much covers it.

[Fleck750]

No one mentioned Detroit. Is it too scary to even talk about? :lol

[tommymac]

No one mentioned Detroit. Is it too scary to even talk about? :lol

Some things are better left unsaid :lol:

Tom

[Smittie61984]

havent been to cleveland in prolly 2 years now, best thing about it is an airport that can take you away from the city.

Dave Attell made fun of Ohio once. He basically said "Anyone ever been to Dayton, Ohio? I have, know what's fun to do there? Get the fuck out"

Oh a correction. My buddy was in Cincinatti when he couldn't find any sweet tea.

[Particle Man]

Been there many times, can't say I disagree with the video...

[Smittie61984]

I just remembered exactly where Cleveland is. Seriously, how can your town suck being right on a big ass lake? Infact how can your economy suck being on a big ass lake that has big ass boats that haul big ass loads of goods?

[Homeslice]

I just remembered exactly where Cleveland is. Seriously, how can your town suck being right on a big ass lake? Infact how can your economy suck being on a big ass lake that has big ass boats that haul big ass loads of goods?

Because the weather sucks and the chicks are fat

No really.......the truth is the industries that used to be big in the Great Lakes aren't so big anymore. That's why the economy sucks.

BTW if you think Cleveland sucks, check out Flint

[Homeslice]

you can't make proper sweet tea by adding your own sugar if ice is already in it. But you Yankee folks wouldn't understand.

I don't care, I like having un-disolved sugar sitting at the bottom. If you use a straw you get it anyway.

The funny thing is that most restaurants down there don't even make their own sweet tea, they act like they do, but they just buy it in bulk from a restaurant supply distributor.

[Smittie61984]

Most restaurants down there don't even make their own sweet tea, they act like they do, but they just buy it in bulk from a restaurant supply distributor.

Not when you go to a restaurant that has "De", "Best" and "Chicken/bbq" somewhere in the name.

But I guess you're right about the industry. I just find it odd that a land locked city like Atlanta that has a few rail lines and an interstate system that is clogged half the time has so many businesses coming here that if you can't find a job here (even now) you fail at life and probably couldn't figure out how to operate a revolver to shoot yourself with for sucking so bad.

[Homeslice]

But I guess you're right about the industry. I just find it odd that a land locked city like Atlanta that has a few rail lines and an interstate system that is clogged half the time has so many businesses coming here that if you can't find a job here (even now) you fail at life and probably couldn't figure out how to operate a revolver to shoot yourself with for sucking so bad.
It's your low cost of living, compared to the Northeast

And your women aren't bad either.

[Smittie61984]

It's your low cost of living, compared to the Northeast

And your women aren't bad either.

Sunny weather seems to bring out the babes (which you should have seen the fine asses at the 10k I ran this morning!!!)

Also Georgia (or the South in general) is not a union friendly state at all. Workers down here will about tar and feather a union rep who wants to unionize a plant. And with both the Ford and GM plants closing down the only union stronghold down here is Teamsters from UPS.

Which I know corporations just love that and is why Kia built a $1.2billion plant in Georgia and the BMW X3 production is getting moved to SC.

[zed]

Also Georgia (or the South in general) is not a union friendly state at all. Workers down here will about tar and feather a union rep who wants to unionize a plant. And with both the Ford and GM plants closing down the only union stronghold down here is Teamsters from UPS.


know how they feel. I'm not union friendly either. I hope this GM thing takes some of the wind out of their sails.

[Mr Lefty]

That's hilarious

fuck the Grand Canyon... I wanna go to Cleveland

[101lifts2]

Went to Cleaveland once and it was kinda desolate. I didn't notice the city being dirty nor did I see any crime or anything so I'll just say its boring.

Socal is getting shitty too with the economy. I can't wait until the welfare gets canned in CA. All the Mexicans are gonna riiot. LOL

[derf]

Went to Cleaveland once and it was kinda desolate. I didn't notice the city being dirty nor did I see any crime or anything so I'll just say its boring.

Socal is getting shitty too with the economy. I can't wait until the welfare gets canned in CA. All the Mexicans are gonna riiot. LOL


So a week from tuesday sounds good?

[Homeslice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr3ftmvO7Oc&NR=1 :lmao: :lmao:

[CrazyKell]

I had a connection through Cleveland earlier this year. :idk:

[Homeslice]

Part 2 :lmao: :lmao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

[Particle Man]

"At least we're not Detroit" :lol:

[derf]

"At least we're not Detroit" :lol:

Well yeh thats one positive. It's still just about equal to winning a gold medal at teh special olympics, yeh you got gold, but you still need help tying your shoes

[canibeyou]

"At least we're not Detroit" :lol:

LOL... classic!

My husband was born in Toledo and got the hell outta there the first chance he got. But growin' up, they'd go into Michigan 'cuz the drinking age was lower than Ohio's. He's told me what a dive Detroit is. Flew thru there once but never "did" the city. However, a couple years ago we went on vacation that took us into New Orleans. As a kid, we went there every year 'cuz there were races in nearby Gulfport we went to. Hubby had never been to NO before and as we're walkin' down in the French Quarter, he looks at me, points at all the trash and says, "Who ever said this place is THE place to come to? It's looks like a glorified Detroit." :skep:

I think we'll be going back to Toledo this summer to visit his elderly Mom and flights into Flint are way cheaper than both Detroit or Toledo. I've never been to Flint.... doesn't sound promising from what you all say. :(

[Homeslice]

Flint is a joke...and you'll spend more in gas driving from Flint to Toledo than you would save by flying there.

[JoJoYZF]

Part 2 :lmao: :lmao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

Thats hilarious and sadly true. I was just downtown twice in the last 4 days and its just shitty. But it really is a little less shitty than detroit.

LOL... classic!

My husband was born in Toledo and got the hell outta there the first chance he got. But growin' up, they'd go into Michigan 'cuz the drinking age was lower than Ohio's. He's told me what a dive Detroit is. Flew thru there once but never "did" the city. However, a couple years ago we went on vacation that took us into New Orleans. As a kid, we went there every year 'cuz there were races in nearby Gulfport we went to. Hubby had never been to NO before and as we're walkin' down in the French Quarter, he looks at me, points at all the trash and says, "Who ever said this place is THE place to come to? It's looks like a glorified Detroit." :skep:

I think we'll be going back to Toledo this summer to visit his elderly Mom and flights into Flint are way cheaper than both Detroit or Toledo. I've never been to Flint.... doesn't sound promising from what you all say. :(

Flint isnt terrible but its nothing great at all. Detroit is a complete dump. Im usually there once a year for the auto show and that once a year is still more than enough.

[Homeslice]

I grew up in Ann Arbor, and the only reason anyone would ever go down into Toledo was to pass through on the way to Cedar Point.

[Homeslice]

Another vid.........This one is long and boring, but somehow addictive because of the utterly depressing scenery.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCuwE0CYHSE&feature=related

[Fleck750]

I grew up in Ann Arbor, and the only reason anyone would ever go down into Toledo was to pass through on the way to Cedar Point.

:lmao:

I'm from Saline.

And the only reason anyone went to Ohio was for cheap cigarettes.

[Homeslice]

:lmao:

I'm from Saline.

And the only reason anyone went to Ohio was for cheap cigarettes.
Fireworks too.

No shit, you were a Hornet huh? Seems like Saline is just an extension of A2 now.

[Fleck750]

Fireworks too.

No shit, you were a Hornet huh? Seems like Saline is just an extension of A2 now.

Great town to grow up in 30 years ago. Mainly snobs, now. Family still lives there. So did you go to Huron, Pioneer, or Gabriel?

I really miss hanging out at Gallup Park.

[Homeslice]

Went to Pioneer. Or I guess they call it "Ann Arbor High" or something now :rolleyes:

Sister still lives on W Liberty which I guess is on the borderline.

[Amber Lamps]

My buddy went to Cleveland once and after a night of heavy drinking couldn't find a single place that had Sweat Tea. No need to build a wall to keep me out that was enough for me.

Um what type of sweat do you use in your tea, Smittie? Personally, I enjoy the sweat straight off the nipples of 13 year old virgins as they run laps around my yard singing the many wonderful hits of Miss Brittany Spears...

[Particle Man]

Um what type of sweat do you use in your tea, Smittie? Personally, I enjoy the sweat straight off the nipples of 13 year old virgins as they run laps around my yard singing the many wonderful hits of Miss Brittany Spears...

hahahaha

[z06boy]

I've only been in Buffalo once and Cleveland once and didn't see much to make me want to go back. They are probably alright if you are from there and know people but for me...no need to return.

I've been to Detroit once...pretty much the same feeling...it would probably be even worse now with the current economy.

As far as sweet tea...I don't even ask for it up north...just give me a Coke. :lol:

[Homeslice]

As far as sweet tea...I don't even ask for it up north...just give me a Coke. :lol:

At least Northeners know what Coke is.........It's a BRAND, it's not a word that can be used for the entire category of soft drinks :lol:

[Trip]

At least Northeners know what Coke is.........It's a BRAND, it's not a word that can be used for the entire category of soft drinks :lol:

Coca-Cola is a brand, New Coke or Diet Coke was/is products for that brand. Otherwise it's just a nickname for a bunch of colas that company offers if you want to get all technical about it.

[Fleck750]

At least Northeners know what Coke is.........It's a BRAND, it's not a word that can be used for the entire category of soft drinks :lol:


:bonk:

And it's POP, not SODA!!!!!!!

Soda is stuff you bake with, not drink. :poke:

[Homeslice]

:bonk:

And it's POP, not SODA!!!!!!!

Soda is stuff you bake with, not drink. :poke:
True...........It's mostly New Englanders who insist on using the word soda

[Homeslice]

Coca-Cola is a brand, New Coke or Diet Coke was/is products for that brand. Otherwise it's just a nickname for a bunch of colas that company offers if you want to get all technical about it.

But many Southerners use the word Coke to mean any soft drink. You say give me a Coke and they say what kind? I'm like regular Coke dumbass.... if I wanted Diet I would have said so. And they go yeah but we also have Sprite, Mountain Dew, and root beer, so what do you want? I'm like I said Coke, dumbass.

[Trip]

But many Southerners use the word Coke to mean any soft drink. You say give me a Coke and they say what kind? I'm like regular Coke dumbass.... if I wanted Diet I would have said so. And they go yeah but we also have Sprite, Mountain Dew, and root beer, so what do you want? I'm like I said Coke, dumbass.

I know, I am just teasing you about it. It's slang, theres a lot worse than that, that have become common usage.

[Fleck750]

But many Southerners use the word Coke to mean any soft drink. You say give me a Coke and they say what kind? I'm like regular Coke dumbass.... if I wanted Diet I would have said so. And they go yeah but we also have Sprite, Mountain Dew, and root beer, so what do you want? I'm like I said Coke, dumbass.

Exactly. Maybe it's a MI thing where we take things too literally. :hitfan:

Now I want a Vernors. :D

[Rsv1000R]

There are some interesting things in the area, The Rock Hall is definately worth seeing. Okay, maybe one thing really worth visiting for :lol:

[zed]

True...........It's mostly New Englanders who insist on using the word soda

we called it soda in MO where I grew up. my son grew up in Akron, he called it pop.

[Amber Lamps]

I know, I am just teasing you about it. It's slang, theres a lot worse than that, that have become common usage.

Down here everyone says "drink" to mean ANYTHING served in a glass/cup.

[zed]

There are some interesting things in the area, The Rock Hall is definately worth seeing. Okay, maybe one thing really worth visiting for :lol:

I know that the AMA motorcycle museum wasn't really worth the trip.

[Rsv1000R]

I know that the AMA motorcycle museum wasn't really worth the trip.

That's in Worthington???, like 150 miles away....

[zed]

That's in Worthington???, like 150 miles away....

13515 Yarmouth Dr
Pickerington, OH 43147

[Homeslice]

And there's the space museum in......wtf is it, Lima?

[Rsv1000R]

13515 Yarmouth Dr
Pickerington, OH 43147

That's right pickerington, it's still about 150 miles from cleveland.

HS, there a museum for Neil Armstrong near Lima.

Lima is probably like 200 miles from Cleveland.

Wright Pat AFB has a nice museum, they have an SR 71, and the only XB 70 left. But that's in Dayton.

[Homeslice]

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ZqYDjKvj0

[derf]

Ok, so this is gonna be a dumb question, but is that a real show?

[Homeslice]

^ couldn't tell you

[Particle Man]

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ZqYDjKvj0

wtf :lol:

[racedoll]

I thought that was pretty funny. The real show has gotten so stupid and fake that I can't stand to watch it anymore.

[Homeslice]

Smell permeated Cleveland neighborhood where 11 bodies found, residents say
From Susan Candiotti, CNN
November 4, 2009 8:21 p.m. EST

Cleveland, Ohio (CNN) -- The smell permeated the neighborhood, turning the stomachs of residents and curtailing their outdoor activities.

"We used to think that it was coming from out of Ray's Sausage," said one resident. "But you smell these smells, and I live right there and ... we used to come out here and oh, these smells would just be horrible."

Ray's Sausage Co. replaced a sewer line and grease traps, trying to rid the area of the stench. But Ray's wasn't to blame after all. Instead, police said, the foul odor had a much more sinister source.

Eleven bodies have been found inside and outside a home adjacent to Ray's -- six inside and five outside. A skull, wrapped in a paper bag and stuffed into a bucket in the basement, apparently is all that remains of the 11th victim, authorities said Wednesday.

The home's inhabitant, Anthony Sowell, 50, is a registered sex offender. Now, Sowell is facing five counts of aggravated murder, rape, felonious assault and kidnapping, police said. A judge on Wednesday denied bond for him, saying the latest allegations against him are "gruesome" and the "most serious" he has heard in his years on the bench.

The first victim was identified Wednesday as Tonia Carmichael, who was 52 when she was last seen on November 10, 2008, police said. Carmichael was identified using DNA. She disappeared from Warrensville Heights, a Cleveland suburb near Sowell's home.

Seven of the victims died from strangulation by a ligature, said Frank Miller, Cuyahoga County coroner. A ligature can include a string, cord or wire. All seven still had something tied around their necks, Miller told reporters.

An eighth victim died from manual strangulation -- strangulation by hands. Two other bodies were too decomposed to determine the cause of death, although Miller said he believes they were victims of "homicidal violence." Autopsy results on the 11th victim are pending.

"It's most likely strangulation in all cases," Miller said.

Some of the victims could have been missing for up to five years, Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath told reporters, and he doesn't believe authorities were able to discern any pattern relating to the disappearance of African-American women.

Police will execute a warrant later Wednesday for Sowell's DNA, to enter it into the known national DNA database, said the statement from Cleveland police Lt. Thomas Stacho.

McGrath earlier said authorities had no information about the smell in the area before the bodies were found.

"You could smell it," said another neighborhood woman. "I came around the corner and I smell it. You could smell the dead bodies. How are you going to tell me people in the neighborhood couldn't smell that?"

Sowell showed no emotion during his hearing Wednesday before Municipal Judge Ronald Adrine. Asked whether he could afford a lawyer, Sowell responded quietly, "No sir."

In asking the judge to deny Sowell bond, Cuyahoga County Assistant Prosecutor Brian Murphy said, "The state believes he's an incredibly dangerous threat."

Adrine, in turn, told the suspect, "This is without question the most serious set of allegations I have faced. Given the gruesomeness of what's facing you ... you are being remanded without bond."

Kathleen Demetz, the public defender representing Sowell, asked that he undergo a psychiatric evaluation. She also said that Sowell, an ex-Marine, has a heart condition and wears a pacemaker.

Sowell has told authorities he had been collecting unemployment payments since being laid off from his job two years ago. It wasn't immediately known what that job was.

Stacho has said Sowell had been making his living as a "scrapper."

"He walks around and picks up scrap metal and takes it to junkyards to make a few pennies," he said.

Police said authorities in Coronado, California, also were checking to see if Sowell might be tied to a rape case there.

Investigators finished digging for more possible remains and evidence Wednesday outside Sowell's home. Detectives were not returning to the home Wednesday, Stacho said, but "will evaluate intelligence gathered from Dr. Miller's examination of the victims to determine what additional steps will be taken at the home before returning."

"I like to believe there is nothing else more there, but we will not know until we finish the search," said McGrath earlier. "It appears that this man had an insatiable appetite that he had to fill."

Police initially went to Sowell's home on October 29 to follow up on a rape accusation. A week earlier, neighbors reported seeing a naked woman fall from the second floor, but no charges were filed.

Neighbors called 911 after the October 20 incident, and emergency personnel -- but not police, initially -- were sent to the home, McGrath told reporters Tuesday. Firefighters later notified police, who responded to the hospital where the woman was taken, he said.

McGrath said the woman told officers she was at the home and "partying," he said. "They were doing coke, drugs, getting high." The woman said she was on an upper balcony and fell off the roof while trying to pick up her keys. A man described as her boyfriend -- Sowell -- told police the same story.

Sowell was arrested Saturday, two days after police discovered the first bodies inside and outside the home.

Authorities say that despite a police news release that described Sowell as a convicted rapist, he actually pleaded guilty to attempted rape in a 1989 case and was imprisoned from 1990 to 2005.

Since his release from prison he was listed as living at the Cleveland home where the bodies were found, McGrath said.

Authorities from the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Office checked on Sowell regularly, with the most recent check coming on September 22 to confirm his address, McGrath said. They found no problems, he said.

[racedoll]

Pretty freaky (being close to home) and f'd up.

[Homeslice]

Cleveland, Ohio (CNN) -- A Cleveland City Council member is calling for an independent investigation into whether police and health authorities in recent months and years should have spotted signs of foul play at a house where 11 bodies were found.

This development reflects the concerns of residents who wonder how authorities in the blue-collar Ohio city could have missed a stench that wafted across the neighborhood and how they could have neglected to pursue signs of problems at the house of Anthony Sowell.

The council member, Zach Reed, said on Wednesday he received a call about the stench in 2007.

"We received a phone call from a resident that said a foul odor came across the street and it smells like a dead person, not dead meat, not a dead animal. A dead person," Reed said.

The entire council also issued a statement saying the "top priorities at this time must be to discover the full extent of the tragedies and to bring forth justice."

"We acknowledge the issues being raised by the community and the media and will examine the case at the appropriate time but we will do nothing to impede the ongoing investigation," it said.

Authorities have identified three of the 11 bodies pulled from the house. On Thursday, the Cuyahoga County coroner's office identified remains as those of Telacia Fortson, 31, whose family said they last saw her around June 1, and Tishana Culver, 31, who had not been reported as a missing person.

Authorities on Wednesday identified the remains of Tonia Carmichael. She was identified using DNA.

Arrested Saturday, two days after police discovered the first bodies inside and outside the home, Sowell, a registered sex offender, faces five counts of aggravated murder, rape, felonious assault and kidnapping, police said. He was denied bond at a hearing Wednesday.

Authorities arrived Thursday at Sowell's home to continue their search using a cadaver dog. They were expected to search the home's walls for additional evidence.

Frank Miller, Cuyahoga County coroner, told reporters that seven of the victims died from strangulation by a ligature, which can include a string, cord or wire. He said all seven still had something tied around their necks.

An eighth victim died from manual strangulation, strangulation by hands. Two other bodies were too decomposed to determine the cause of death, although Miller said he believes they were victims of "homicidal violence." Autopsy results on the 11th victim are pending.

"It's most likely strangulation in all cases," Miller said.

Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath said some of the victims could have been missing for up to five years.

"We've heard a lot of feedback on what the character may or may not have been of some of these victims," Phyllis Cleveland, City Council majority leader, told reporters. "And that really doesn't matter. No one deserves what happened to these women. No one deserves that. These were women who were mothers and grandmothers, aunts, nieces ... sisters of someone. They were loved and valued by someone, and their lives should be valued by all of us."

Many in Sowell's neighborhood wonder how authorities could have missed the signs of problems at the house, particularly the smell. Nearby Ray's Sausage Co. replaced a sewer line and grease traps, trying to rid the area of the stench, but it stayed until police found the bodies.

Six of the victims were found inside the home and five outside, including a skull, wrapped in a paper bag and stuffed into a bucket in the basement, police said. Authorities said they had no information about the smell before the bodies were found.

But some in the neighborhood disagreed. "You could smell it," said another neighborhood woman. "I came around the corner and I smell it. You could smell the dead bodies. How are you going to tell me people in the neighborhood couldn't smell that?"

Police initially went to Sowell's home last week to follow up on a rape accusation. A week earlier, neighbors reported seeing a naked woman fall from the second floor, but no charges were filed.

Neighbors called 911 after the October 20 incident. Firefighters and paramedics responded, and later notified police. The woman told officers that she was at the home and "partying," when she fell off the roof. "They were doing coke, drugs, getting high," McGrath said. A man described as her boyfriend, Sowell, told police the same story.

Carmichael was last seen on November 10, 2008. She was 52 when she disappeared from Warrensville Heights, a Cleveland suburb near Sowell's home, and her vehicle was found in Cleveland.

In the missing persons report, Carmichael's mother, Barbara, told police her daughter was addicted to crack and had previously disappeared for several days at a time. But she said she believed something had happened to her because she had not picked up two paychecks.

The news of the death was especially tragic for the victim's mother.

"As you can imagine, it's heartbreaking for the whole family, but this was her child," said Donnita Carmichael, the victim's daughter. "This was her daughter, her angel, her princess, and now we will never see her again. She's gone."

Fortson was born on March 21, 1978, and lived in the city of East Cleveland, authorities said.

Although her family said they'd last seen her several months ago, authorities said she was only reported missing on Saturday.

Sowell had been charged with a 1989 rape and pleaded guilty to two counts of attempted rape under a plea agreement, court records show. Police said he was imprisoned from 1990 to 2005. Since his release from prison he was listed as living at the Cleveland home where the bodies were found, McGrath said.

Authorities from the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Office checked on Sowell regularly, with the most recent check on September 22 to confirm his address, McGrath said. They found no problems, he said.

Police began to get suspicious of Sowell about a month ago, after a woman accused him of rape and assault, said Cleveland Police Lt. Thomas Stacho. Investigators obtained the warrants that set off the search after getting the victim's cooperation, he said.

During his hearing Wednesday, Sowell showed no emotion. His public defender, Kathleen Demetz, requested that he undergo a psychiatric evaluation and said that Sowell, an ex-Marine, has a heart condition and wears a pacemaker.

Sowell has told authorities he had been collecting unemployment payments since being laid off from his job two years ago. It wasn't immediately known what that job was.

Stacho has said Sowell had been making his living as a "scrapper." "He walks around and picks up scrap metal and takes it to junk yards to make a few pennies," he said.

Police said authorities in Coronado, California, also were checking to see if Sowell might be tied to a rape case there.

[Homeslice]

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLppPfNTf5U&feature=related

[Homeslice]

Case against Ohio bodies suspect expands overseas

By THOMAS J. SHEERAN, Associated Press Writer Thomas J. Sheeran, Associated Press Writer 52 mins ago

CLEVELAND – Authorities are investigating whether a man whose home and yard harbored the remains of at least 11 people is connected to any killings in places he lived while in the military, including Japan, California and the Carolinas.

The FBI told Cleveland police that the agency will investigate any leads in the case against Anthony Sowell, 50, who served in the Marines from 1978 to 1985, said Scott Wilson, an FBI spokesman in Cleveland.

FBI behavioral specialists visited the Sowell property during the weekend and will try to develop a profile of the killings that could help determine whether investigations need to be opened or reopened elsewhere, Wilson said.

Sowell was stationed at various times at Parris Island, S.C.; Cherry Point, N.C.; Okinawa, Japan; and Camp Pendleton, Calif.

The city of East Cleveland is also reviewing three unsolved slayings in 1988 and 1989, after Sowell returned there from service in the Marines and before he went to prison for attempted rape, said Sgt. Ken Bolton, a detective for the police department in the Cleveland suburb.

Sowell has been charged in Cleveland with five counts of aggravated murder in connection with the bodies found at the home.

The FBI will review its national database of unsolved crimes for any clues to possible connections to Sowell, particularly at his military service locations, Wilson said. The first step is to get a detailed timeline of his service, Wilson said.

Police in Coronado, Calif., near Camp Pendleton, said a woman told them that she saw Sowell's mug shot on TV and was sure he had raped her in 1979.

Officers talked with the woman but were unable to confirm her story because rape investigation records from 30 years ago have been thrown out, said Jesus Ochoa, Coronado police commander.

"She seemed credible," he said.

Near Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown and his deputies are sifting through paper records to check for any unsolved killings or disappearances during the time Sowell was at the Marine base from May 20, 1978, to July 12, 1978.

Brown said he has already run Sowell's name through computerized court files and hasn't found that Sowell got so much as a traffic ticket while in the area. But the paper search is slow going.

"The computer technology then is not what it is now," Brown said.

The unsolved East Cleveland slayings of Rosalind Garner on May 27, 1988, Carmella Prater on Feb. 27, 1989, and Mary Thomas on March 28, 1989, will be checked against the autopsies of the bodies found at Sowell's home to check for similarities, Bolton said.

"It's for the family's closure," he said. "They are unsolved and they happened around the time that he was not in jail."

No connections had been made by Monday, he said.

Seven of the victims found at the Sowell home, all black women, have been identified. The Cuyahoga County coroner's office said Monday that it was working to identify the other four.

Police discovered the first two bodies and a freshly dug grave Oct. 29 at the house on the city's east side. The number grew to 11 by Tuesday.

Investigators returned Monday to the house, which has been cordoned off as a crime scene under 24-hour guard, but there was no immediate word on their activities inside.

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Associated Press writers John Seewer in Cleveland and Meg Kinnard in Columbia, S.C., contributed to this report.

[unknownroad]

we called it soda in MO where I grew up. my son grew up in Akron, he called it pop.

I think "pop" is strictly a Rust Belt term. Anyone I've ever heard use it was from MI, OH, western NY, western PA.

The fact that somebody could have a house full of rotting corpses go un-investigated for years says all I need to know about Cleveland :willy:

[Rangerscott]

Hastily Made Cleveland Tourist Video: 2nd Attempt


http://cavs.fandome.com/video/111888/Hastily-Made-Cleveland-Tourism-Video-2nd-Attempt/

[racedoll]

There are some interesting things in the area, The Rock Hall is definately worth seeing. Okay, maybe one thing really worth visiting for :lol:
I'm not far from Cleveland, an hour maybe...

I know that the AMA motorcycle museum wasn't really worth the trip.
I wasn't very impressed when I went down there.

Wright Pat AFB has a nice museum, they have an SR 71, and the only XB 70 left. But that's in Dayton.

They have the aliens and UFO down there, though you can't see it. I want to go down again, it has been many, many years since I toured.

[Homeslice]

I actually did my ROTC field training at Wright Pat. I thought it was rather lame, and definitely hot in the summer.

[z06boy]

I've only been to Cleveland...Detroit and Buffalo once each and that was pretty much enough. :idk:

[Homeslice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdNKeSgTGg&feature=related