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RACER X
06-17-2009, 01:52 PM
http://media.techeblog.com/images/portablecoilgun.jpg

In addition to learning about woodworking in woodshop, you can also start on side projects, such as this high-powered coil gun, which is a portable, bolt-action single stage model with a 6-round mag. A coil gun basically works by using electromagnetic coils, in a linear electric motor configuration, to accelerate magnetic projectiles. Continue reading to see it in-action -- video courtesy of Jacksone.

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/student-builds-bolt-action-portable-coil-gun-in-woodshop

lol

Sixxxxer
06-17-2009, 02:06 PM
Well that looks Safe...Lol

askmrjesus
06-17-2009, 02:11 PM
I made a bong.

I wasn't high enough to come up with an electromagnetic linear electric motor configuration coil gun. :lol:

JC

Apoc
06-17-2009, 02:13 PM
Ya, we made pipes. or anything else we werent supposed to.

Tmall and another guy made a 'shift lever' once. But that was actually a pipe too.

pauldun170
06-17-2009, 02:16 PM
We made the tubby chinese kid cry.

z06boy
06-17-2009, 02:17 PM
Made a few things but nothing that cool !! Maybe a potato gun but that's as close as I got. :lol:

Tmall
06-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Ya, we made pipes. or anything else we werent supposed to.

Tmall and another guy made a 'shift lever' once. But that was actually a pipe too.

When I went home, it was still being used 10 years later. It was a beautiful knurled stainless steel 2 piece interference fit pipe.

askmrjesus
06-17-2009, 02:18 PM
We made the tubby chinese kid cry.

:lol:

JC

LeeNetworX
06-17-2009, 02:23 PM
We made mostly D's....with an occasional C.

Tmall
06-17-2009, 02:27 PM
Oh, in junior high I made a ring, bookshelf, race car.

In hs, I made a depth gauge, tore down and rebuilt and old Buick 350, and assorted projects on the lathe.

wildchild
06-17-2009, 02:36 PM
let's see..... remember i was the kid who had no thought of college, all shop classes for me. I made a rocking horse for my cousin that she still has 25 years later. her daughter uses it now. cedar chest, large gun cabinet, rebuilt and painted two cars, camaro and dodge roadrunner. made a complete bandsaw. only thing i didn't make was the blade and the motor.
those were the cool projects anyways. a lot of little projects for less fortunate people. we didn't have to pay for material if we donated our projects so i did a ton of that stuff

Antwanny
06-17-2009, 02:49 PM
bats to beat each other with, a few stamped shitty shurikens as well. Me and a kid made a person out of reebar in hs. about 7 ft tall was pretty detailed, then we cut him up after god knows how many hours of grinding and welding.

Curb
06-17-2009, 03:38 PM
i only got 2 years of shop in middle school...the first year was a waste of time. i think we built a small wooden bi-plane. second year was a little better, we made wind chimes, the race cars and then we had a choice after that...i built this really nice organizer to hang on the wall. but nothing like what most you guys did. then in HS they cut the shop program all together

Bluestreak
06-17-2009, 03:54 PM
I made several peices of furniture that I still use today, some better quality than others, and way too many baseball bats.

We had wood shop, and metal shop. I never took metal shop and now I wish I would have. They learned how to weld and made lots of really cool stuff. Welding is a skill I don't have but wish I did.

Amber Lamps
06-17-2009, 06:24 PM
I made several peices of furniture that I still use today, some better quality than others, and way too many baseball bats.

We had wood shop, and metal shop. I never took metal shop and now I wish I would have. They learned how to weld and made lots of really cool stuff. Welding is a skill I don't have but wish I did.

Hey do what I did, buy a cheap welder and get some scrap somewhere and practice! Apart from figuring out some adjustments and stuff welding is more of an "art" than anything else imho. Most of the best welders I've ever met learned by doing rather than taking classes.:idk:

Apoc
06-17-2009, 06:27 PM
Oh, in junior high I made a ring, bookshelf, race car.

In hs, I made a depth gauge, tore down and rebuilt and old Buick 350, and assorted projects on the lathe.


Were you in the Engine Repair class with me and courtenay and those guys? Or did you take it some other time?

I still have the wooden shelf I built. And the ring. I havent the slightest clue what happened to the racecar, may have broke racing it.

'73 H1 Triple
06-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Hey do what I did, buy a cheap welder and get some scrap somewhere and practice! Apart from figuring out some adjustments and stuff welding is more of an "art" than anything else imho. Most of the best welders I've ever met learned by doing rather than taking classes.:idk:

Take a night course at your local vo-tech school to learn how to weld. I was a certified arc welder and took a vo-tech course to learn how to proprly set up and use a mig welder.

Not only were my start up setting incorrect, but 3/4 of the class that said they could "weld" were only melting metal together. Any type of stress on their welds would cause them to fail. Two of those melters were building street rods too :wtfru:

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I had shop class in 8th & 9th grades and took machine trades in vo tech school during high school. Mornings at the high school and afternoons at vo-tech. I graduated vo-tech top of my class and have been a machinist for the past 32 years.

Adeptus_Minor
06-17-2009, 08:17 PM
We made fun of the shop teacher's way of speaking.
It was somewhere between an Australian accent and some combination of speech impediments.


Ok ok... fine... Mom still has the pear spoon holder that I cast out of polyester resin. (but the shop teacher called it pawlee-asster raaazin :lol: )

Amber Lamps
06-17-2009, 08:21 PM
Take a night course at your local vo-tech school to learn how to weld. I was a certified arc welder and took a vo-tech course to learn how to proprly set up and use a mig welder.

Not only were my start up setting incorrect, but 3/4 of the class that said they could "weld" were only melting metal together. Any type of stress on their welds would cause them to fail. Two of those melters were building street rods too :wtfru:

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I had shop class in 8th & 9th grades and took machine trades in vo tech school during high school. Mornings at the high school and afternoons at vo-tech. I graduated vo-tech top of my class and have been a machinist for the past 32 years.

That's so funny because I always felt that you had to take a class to weld. When I first started, I used to beg my boss to finance such a class. His reply to me was simple, "Overhead Door and Building Specialties (his co's) have been installing doors, dock levelers, ect since the 1920s and not a single one of our employees has ever been certified to weld". I installed guillotine doors at the Devos Place that are 16' high and almost 60' wide and they weigh about 15,000 lbs. As far as I know they are still standing there today even though neither myself nor my partner has ever taken a welding class. I'm not saying that you are wrong, in fact for the most part, I agree with you. I just don't think that someone doing small projects around the house needs to take classes and whatnot. I don't have the expertise that you do but I spent 10+ years installing equipment that weighs hundreds/thousands of lbs, using a welder without ever taking one class. To this day, I can honestly say that I've never had a weld fail. :idk:

'73 H1 Triple
06-17-2009, 10:02 PM
That's so funny because I always felt that you had to take a class to weld. When I first started, I used to beg my boss to finance such a class. His reply to me was simple, "Overhead Door and Building Specialties (his co's) have been installing doors, dock levelers, ect since the 1920s and not a single one of our employees has ever been certified to weld". I installed guillotine doors at the Devos Place that are 16' high and almost 60' wide and they weigh about 15,000 lbs. As far as I know they are still standing there today even though neither myself nor my partner has ever taken a welding class. I'm not saying that you are wrong, in fact for the most part, I agree with you. I just don't think that someone doing small projects around the house needs to take classes and whatnot. I don't have the expertise that you do but I spent 10+ years installing equipment that weighs hundreds/thousands of lbs, using a welder without ever taking one class. To this day, I can honestly say that I've never had a weld fail. :idk:

I'm "pushing" the schooling so you learn the correct way to weld before you learn bad habits/practices.

It is easier to learn on the newer mig welders than stick (arc) welding but proper techique and heat is important. More than a few of the people in the class thought it was better to "burn in" the weld for better penetration. Although it does go deeper, it overheats the metal to the point of crystalizing it. That makes it brittle and it will crack easier.

Adeptus_Minor
06-17-2009, 10:52 PM
I'm "pushing" the schooling so you learn the correct way to weld before you learn bad habits/practices.

It is easier to learn on the newer mig welders than stick (arc) welding but proper techique and heat is important. More than a few of the people in the class thought it was better to "burn in" the weld for better penetration. Although it does go deeper, it overheats the metal to the point of crystalizing it. That makes it brittle and it will crack easier.

:dthumb:
It's like people who learn to ride on their own vs. through the MSF course.
Sure, you may go 20 years with no accidents or major mishaps, but at that point you're more the exception than the rule.
You'll learn more as you gain experience working on your own, but I don't see any reasonable arguments against getting the training first. :idk:

Amber Lamps
06-17-2009, 11:51 PM
:dthumb:
It's like people who learn to ride on their own vs. through the MSF course.
Sure, you may go 20 years with no accidents or major mishaps, but at that point you're more the exception than the rule.
You'll learn more as you gain experience working on your own, but I don't see any reasonable arguments against getting the training first. :idk:

Okay, I made the first post about "learning on your own" and the rebuttal came second. Sorry, I'm just a little tired of being accused of starting these arguments. I have an opinion backed up by a 70+ year old company with 30 trucks on the road. I have 10 years of personal experience in this area that tells me that it can be done. I'm not against taking classes if you can afford it (kinda like MSF, I guess) but for light , Bob Villa, around the house welding I honestly believe that you could learn well enough from books, the internet and practice. I'm sorry that I don't agree with you completely. Can't we just agree to disagree before I have to be told how stupid I am? Please?:idk:

Homeslice
06-18-2009, 12:36 AM
Didn't do shit in shop class.......Couldn't decide what to make. My attitude was, you're the teacher, so you tell me what to make.

Gas Man
06-18-2009, 12:37 AM
I made several peices of furniture that I still use today, some better quality than others, and way too many baseball bats.

We had wood shop, and metal shop. I never took metal shop and now I wish I would have. They learned how to weld and made lots of really cool stuff. Welding is a skill I don't have but wish I did.

Me too. I am actually looking forward to getting back a frame I made for an old girlfriend back in the day. Her mom has it and wants to give it back to me. I'm pumped about this.

I too wish I took welding class. of coarse one of my buds is a certified pipeline welder so I'm sure he could teach me.

Which brings up a point. I highly doubt many welders most of us know are all that good in comparison to a pipeline welder who's welds must pass xray certs. Every one of them! The old school pipeline welders that I have met could weld better behind their head then most average welders.

Hey do what I did, buy a cheap welder and get some scrap somewhere and practice! Apart from figuring out some adjustments and stuff welding is more of an "art" than anything else imho. Most of the best welders I've ever met learned by doing rather than taking classes.:idk:

The guy that made the sissy bar and pipes for the chop was self taught and he had some amazing welds.

Adeptus_Minor
06-18-2009, 12:43 AM
Okay, I made the first post about "learning on your own" and the rebuttal came second. Sorry, I'm just a little tired of being accused of starting these arguments. I have an opinion backed up by a 70+ year old company with 30 trucks on the road. I have 10 years of personal experience in this area that tells me that it can be done. I'm not against taking classes if you can afford it (kinda like MSF, I guess) but for light , Bob Villa, around the house welding I honestly believe that you could learn well enough from books, the internet and practice. I'm sorry that I don't agree with you completely. Can't we just agree to disagree before I have to be told how stupid I am? Please?:idk:

Nobody's calling you stupid, bud. :idk:
Sounds like you did a good job teaching yourself a skill... just saying not everyone wants to spend the time trying to learn by trial and error.
Not to mention, have you ever known someone who has shocked the piss out of themselves with welding equipment?
Funny... but not recommended. :lol:

Amber Lamps
06-18-2009, 01:23 AM
Nobody's calling you stupid, bud. :idk:
Sounds like you did a good job teaching yourself a skill... just saying not everyone wants to spend the time trying to learn by trial and error.
Not to mention, have you ever known someone who has shocked the piss out of themselves with welding equipment?
Funny... but not recommended. :lol:


Yea I said "before" :lol:. The thing is I had "basic" skills and I was an apprentice for 3 years in my trade. A guy who had been doing it for 15+ years taught me everything I needed to know. Anyway, I'm sorry it's just that you all are far smarter than I am and it's why I actually avoid some threads (believe it or not). You are all much more educated than I am and most of you have jobs that apparently allow you to surf the web for vast amounts of information on science, politics, psychology, news, etc.

There was a thread about traffic light loops a while back. I have installed dozens and had literally installed several that week on a job. Someone asked if a magnet would trigger a loop. I said yes and an engineer on the forum said no. I tried to explain that we use one all the time to trigger them when we set the sensitivity or to test the operation rather than drive our truck back and forth. He basically called me a liar and a fool and a number of other learned gentlemen dog piled their degrees onto the stack. It just seems to happen a lot. Sorry if I were a little too "preemptive".

Adeptus_Minor
06-18-2009, 01:31 AM
Yes... well... right then.
Carry on. :lol:

Particle Man
06-19-2009, 02:21 PM
shit, we made pen holders and bird feeders out of freakin' wood :lol:

pauldun170
06-19-2009, 02:30 PM
Didn't do shit in shop class.......Couldn't decide what to make. My attitude was, you're the teacher, so you tell me what to make.

Wow...so that attitude of your has been around since you were a wee one?

You and your fashion magazines and social trend literature.

'73 H1 Triple
06-19-2009, 03:24 PM
Okay, I made the first post about "learning on your own" and the rebuttal came second. Sorry, I'm just a little tired of being accused of starting these arguments. I have an opinion backed up by a 70+ year old company with 30 trucks on the road. I have 10 years of personal experience in this area that tells me that it can be done. I'm not against taking classes if you can afford it (kinda like MSF, I guess) but for light , Bob Villa, around the house welding I honestly believe that you could learn well enough from books, the internet and practice. I'm sorry that I don't agree with you completely. Can't we just agree to disagree before I have to be told how stupid I am? Please?:idk:

I did not call or infer you were "stupid". My entire point was learning the correct way before you pick up bad habits.

I see you learned from an experienced craftsman. That equates to "school" :cheers:

Also, the magnet thread may have been mine. It works good on most lights but there is still one that it does NOT work with. I even added two big cow magnets to the one I purchased off ebay. I still sit and wait for traffic or after a long wait, "run" the red light ( safely).

Jeff

Rsv1000R
06-19-2009, 03:40 PM
Also, the magnet thread may have been mine. It works good on most lights but there is still one that it does NOT work with. I even added two big cow magnets to the one I purchased off ebay. I still sit and wait for traffic or after a long wait, "run" the red light ( safely).

Jeff

Try passing the magnet over where the wire runs(like rolling the bike over the spot in the road). Oh, make sure n/s is pointed up/down(actually I'm not sure if this or n/s pointing front/back would be better).

That should change the inductance as much as a magnet can.

Tig, did you guys wave the magnet over the wire bundle?

Amber Lamps
06-19-2009, 04:11 PM
I did not call or infer you were "stupid". My entire point was learning the correct way before you pick up bad habits.

I see you learned from an experienced craftsman. That equates to "school" :cheers:

Also, the magnet thread may have been mine. It works good on most lights but there is still one that it does NOT work with. I even added two big cow magnets to the one I purchased off ebay. I still sit and wait for traffic or after a long wait, "run" the red light ( safely).

Jeff

Well, I read and taught myself to weld good enough for around the house type welding. When I hired in, I told the boss that I needed classes to be able to weld in heavy equipment and he was like "Nah you'll learn". The guy that taught me had never even seen a welder before working for this company.

Oh no it was before all of you guys joined. In the past I had a speaker magnet mounted in the belly pan of my bike and it always worked. I won't argue for the effectiveness of the small, so-called super magnets because they don't work. I tried it and yep, still running lights!:lol: In fact, I had to run two last night! I have some old speakers from a truck, so when I install my new body kit, I'm going to put a couple of those in the belly pan. I'm hoping for positive results.:rockwoot:

Amber Lamps
06-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Try passing the magnet over where the wire runs(like rolling the bike over the spot in the road). Oh, make sure n/s is pointed up/down(actually I'm not sure if this or n/s pointing front/back would be better).

That should change the inductance as much as a magnet can.

Tig, did you guys wave the magnet over the wire bundle?

Oh yea, you have to place it where the wires run for sure! Although one of our crews used a magnet off a 15" sub woofer that they could place anywhere within a foot of the loop and get it to trigger!:lol: It all depends on how the loop was installed (cut in or poured in with the cement), where you set the sensitivity, and what type of controller you used. With the right circumstances, I gotten a loop to trigger off a kid's bicycle. :lol: