Fat kids... Is it child abuse? /rant on

[Kaneman]

My wife and I took our son to the zoo last week and as is the case when I go into public with large groups of people I was amazed at how fat many of the kids walking around were.

I'm not talking about chubby kids who's height has yet to catch up with their weight. I'm talking about really obese kids with no apparent sense of appearance or health. Kids who's very large buttcracks were showing out of their amazingly large jeans, kids with stains on their faces and their shirts. Kids wolfing down ice cream and cotton candy like they just spent a week doing Survivorman. Not just fat, but sloppy, you know what I mean? The way they walked, they way they interacted, the way their clothes hung off of them...ugh.

There were just so many of them, it seems like more and more everytime I go out. I want to know why letting your children get themselves into that state isn't child abuse? I love HoHos and Little Debbie as much as anyone, but come on man, these kids would have to be eating them at breakfast lunch and dinner to get as fat as they are. At about the half way point we sat and watched what looked like a 12 year old girl in excess of 200lbs eat an entire giant cotton candy. She had fat rolls on her ankles. WHAT THE FUCK?!? Is a child to be responsible for their own nutrition and exercise? No, that's what parents are for, and I would be in favor of hers being punished in a way that motivates them to get their daughter outdoors and doing something.

I want to know when someone in charge decided that PE and recess were no longer necessary. My step-son gets 15 minutes a day for recess. 15 minutes....that's it. They don't even have P.E. every day so some days the school system honestly expects them to sit still and learn without any exercise whatsoever. We're talking about rambunctious boys here, come the fuck on...COMMON SENSE GODDAMNIT!!! What is wrong with these lazy fucking administrators that think its ok to not run the shit out of kids before they sit down to learn. Oh wait, we don't need exercise cause we can just get our kids all doped up....that'll shut 'em up.

My problem isn't politically correct. I don't care about their health, their well being, the nation's "swelling" healthcare problem or a myriad of other reasons to do something about this...I just get fucking grossed out watching extremely fat people eat. I'd rather be in the smoking section at a restaurant (which I actually hate) than to have to sit next to a fat family wolfing down all you can eat beef ribs at Riscky's BBQ (that was yesterday BTW).

So we're not supposed to make fun of them because its a condition, its a disease. Well I say fuck that, every other facet of society condones and coddles them providing absolutely no motivation to turn Jon and Kate off and get off the fucking couch. Now, I'm no tin-foil hat kinda guy...but at some point you have to wonder if there is a conspiracy afoot to dumb us down and fatten us up so that we're easy to control. Or maybe the media and so forth are only catering to an already dumbed and fattened society. I guess its a question of which came first. But if you're really, really fat...and your wife is really really fat, and your kids are really really fat and you're next to me in a restaurant, or at the amusement park or wherever you can expect me to have a disgusted look on my face and you may even overhear me say something to my wife about your condition and what a shame it is. Hey, tell you what, if you think you can take me in a fist fight then get your fat ass up and do something about it. Otherwise, consider a lifestyle change.

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[wildchild]

I agree somewhat about the weight issues of kids. seems today it's way too easy for parents to say watch tv or play video games then to go out and do anything with their kids.
before anyone says well mommy has to have a job now days. they can still go hang out with the kid at night after school and work. mom and dad that is.
many times the problem is mom and dad are divorced and both are more worried about finding their next ex spouse rather then worrying about their already born spawn.
as far as the drugged up kids issue, yep why do we need to let them exercise. the school gets more funding if they can prove your kid needs to be turned into a zombie for his own safety and the safety of others around them. I don't think I've ever been so ready to physically punch a school administrator as I was the day they brought that subject up for my son. seems they weren't sure how to "handle him". He would get wound up on days when they thought it was too cold to go outside for recess so they would sit at their desk all day instead. No inside recess just take a break at your desk.
i work on a computer and cannot sit at my desk all day without going out of my mind.
luckily for us my son's teacher was one of the people who had to sign off on the rec and she refused. Gotta love the few old school teachers that are left in the system. she looked at him and looked at me with a very slight wink she asked me "so is it alright if I spank him if he gets out of line?" I said sure no problem. No more problems the rest of the year.

[Papa_Complex]

I wouldn't call it abuse, so much as neglect. Prepared foods that are chocked full of wonderful stuff like sugars and trans-fats are just so much easier for today's narcissist on the go to toss in the microwave, then throw in the general direction of the kid.

The kid wants something? Give it to him. Otherwise he might start whining about it and make it impossible to hear what Jack Bauer is saying to THIS terrorist he's threatening with a broken bottle. Can't have that. Then you wouldn't know why he was electrocuting the next guy's balls and you'd lose the entire storyline.

Schools can't let your kid do anything physical anymore. They've been sued so many times that they think they're the subject of a Johnny Cash song. Now they preemptively let them turn to goo so that they won't be named in a suit that would make them go to court, thereby missing out on Jack Bauer taking a candle to some government mole's junk. And you can bet the rug rat would be screaming for some Ho Hos by the time they got home too.

[Fleck750]

My son was pretty overweight till a few months ago. Peer pressure got to him, and the promise of female companionship. :bonk:

So we watches what he eats, is working out after school and has lost 40lbs. I'm proud of him.

It's hard when they get in school and you can't watch everything they put in their face. But putting your foot down at home and setting a good example is more important.

[Kaneman]

Wildchild,
I had an issue like that at my son's daycare when he got in trouble for not following directions and being "disruptive." He's a very well behaved and well mannered kid, but I listed respectfully to what they had to say.

After they were done with their piece and were expecting me to agree with them and let them know I'd take care of it I gently asked how many wind-sprints they made him run at recess that day. They told me it was too hot to go outside (I thought that's what water was for?) so I told them if he gets in trouble on days that they actually provide an adequate amount of exercise to let me know.

Now, are you saying the school actually tried to force you to put your kids on drugs? Man that shit is crazy. I saw a kid the other day (an acquantance of mine) who's pupils were more blown than any pothead I've ever met. I asked him why his kid was so high (the poor lad couldn't even respond to questions), he told me "he has ADD)

Wow.
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[the chi]

Its just sad, but I too think alot has to do with the crap they put in food these days, and the tendency to let the children stay inside and "dormant" instead of having to play outside and make up games and entertainment involving activity versus sitting in front of the tv stuffing their faces with chips and soda.

[Kaneman]

It's hard when they get in school and you can't watch everything they put in their face. But putting your foot down at home and setting a good example is more important.

I don't totally disagree with that, but from my point of view I know I grew up eating pizza and burgers and drinking Dr. Pepper and all that. But at the same time I was always out doing something. When I lived on the ranch I was out riding my dirt bike, chasing cows or hunting stuff...when I moved to the city me and my friends would play street hockey or ride bikes for hours a day (even in the heat of the Texas summer). We would chug Koolaid and eat ice cream and hit the pizza buffet and probably eat 2,000 calorie meals...but it didn't matter because we didn't sit inside all day.

Did we play video games? Fuck yea we played video games, but we spent most of our time doing active things.

You know, I almost NEVER see kids playing outside anymore and I live in a very kid filled neighborhood.
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[Kaneman]

Its just sad, but I too think alot has to do with the crap they put in food these days, and the tendency to let the children stay inside and "dormant" instead of having to play outside and make up games and entertainment involving activity versus sitting in front of the tv stuffing their faces with chips and soda.

I really do think it has little to do with diet and more to do with a severe lack of physical stimulation. I know me and all my friends ate all kinds of shit food, but none of us were fat. There's no way that we ALL just happened to have high metabolisms that could handle that kind of food...we just stayed active.

Even now we eat burgers, tacos, fast food, pizza, pie, ice cream, snow cones and such and are all in good shape. Case in point, we just ate waffles, bacon and greasy eggs for breakfast but will be taking the dogs on a 5 mile walk in a bit.
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[Rider]

You got it right. It's the lack of physical activity. People need to "unplug" their kids and get their ass outside. The amount of sugar that are in foods today doesn't help either. I read an article a while back that said Americans eat 5 times as much sugar(carbohydrate of any kind) as they did in the early 1900's.
That's a lot of damn sugar.

[the chi]

I really do think it has little to do with diet and more to do with a severe lack of physical stimulation. I know me and all my friends ate all kinds of shit food, but none of us were fat. There's no way that we ALL just happened to have high metabolisms that could handle that kind of food...we just stayed active.

Even now we eat burgers, tacos, fast food, pizza, pie, ice cream, snow cones and such and are all in good shape. Case in point, we just ate waffles, bacon and greasy eggs for breakfast but will be taking the dogs on a 5 mile walk in a bit.

:scratch: Thats what I said.

The lack of activity combined with the crap food is a bad combo.

[MILK]

Actually it's a combination of both. It's very simple. Take in more calories than you expend and you will gain weight, period.

Being active is great but you can still gain weight if you eat like a pig. The other thing is that what most people consider 'active' nowdays is not really active...

[CrazyKell]

I want to cry when I see my nieces. At 8 and 5 they both have big bellies. I mean.....kids that age should NOT have bellies....at all! :(

[Kaneman]

:scratch: Thats what I said.

The lack of activity combined with the crap food is a bad combo.

My point is that I think waaaaay too much emphasis is being put on diet and waaaay too little is being put on activity level for children.

I see a lot of news stories about how schools are taking out vending machines with snacks and soft drinks and so forth to improve health...but I never see any articles about how school systems are actually devoting a serious amount of time to rigorous physical activity.

I'm not arguing that the food they eat is crap and they could do much better. But when I was a kid my Pops used to make us Koolaid and Tea with insane amounts of sugar in it, we ate junk all day. I could easily eat an entire large pizza, a whole rack of ribs, 5 BBQ chicken breasts and so forth...but we were so active it didn't matter.
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[Trip]

It's video games and television!

[Rider]

I see a lot of news stories about how schools are taking out vending machines with snacks and soft drinks and so forth to improve health...but I never see any articles about how school systems are actually devoting a serious amount of time to rigorous physical activity.



Some schools are phasing out PE classes. It's sad because kids need physical activity. Plenty of kids sure as fuck aren't getting it at home.

[Avatard]

My wife and I took our son to the zoo last week and as is the case when I go into public with large groups of people I was amazed at how fat many of the kids walking around were.

I'm not talking about chubby kids who's height has yet to catch up with their weight. I'm talking about really obese kids with no apparent sense of appearance or health. Kids who's very large buttcracks were showing out of their amazingly large jeans, kids with stains on their faces and their shirts. Kids wolfing down ice cream and cotton candy like they just spent a week doing Survivorman. Not just fat, but sloppy, you know what I mean? The way they walked, they way they interacted, the way their clothes hung off of them...ugh.

There were just so many of them, it seems like more and more everytime I go out. I want to know why letting your children get themselves into that state isn't child abuse? I love HoHos and Little Debbie as much as anyone, but come on man, these kids would have to be eating them at breakfast lunch and dinner to get as fat as they are. At about the half way point we sat and watched what looked like a 12 year old girl in excess of 200lbs eat an entire giant cotton candy. She had fat rolls on her ankles. WHAT THE FUCK?!? Is a child to be responsible for their own nutrition and exercise? No, that's what parents are for, and I would be in favor of hers being punished in a way that motivates them to get their daughter outdoors and doing something.

I want to know when someone in charge decided that PE and recess were no longer necessary. My step-son gets 15 minutes a day for recess. 15 minutes....that's it. They don't even have P.E. every day so some days the school system honestly expects them to sit still and learn without any exercise whatsoever. We're talking about rambunctious boys here, come the fuck on...COMMON SENSE GODDAMNIT!!! What is wrong with these lazy fucking administrators that think its ok to not run the shit out of kids before they sit down to learn. Oh wait, we don't need exercise cause we can just get our kids all doped up....that'll shut 'em up.

My problem isn't politically correct. I don't care about their health, their well being, the nation's "swelling" healthcare problem or a myriad of other reasons to do something about this...I just get fucking grossed out watching extremely fat people eat. I'd rather be in the smoking section at a restaurant (which I actually hate) than to have to sit next to a fat family wolfing down all you can eat beef ribs at Riscky's BBQ (that was yesterday BTW).

So we're not supposed to make fun of them because its a condition, its a disease. Well I say fuck that, every other facet of society condones and coddles them providing absolutely no motivation to turn Jon and Kate off and get off the fucking couch. Now, I'm no tin-foil hat kinda guy...but at some point you have to wonder if there is a conspiracy afoot to dumb us down and fatten us up so that we're easy to control. Or maybe the media and so forth are only catering to an already dumbed and fattened society. I guess its a question of which came first. But if you're really, really fat...and your wife is really really fat, and your kids are really really fat and you're next to me in a restaurant, or at the amusement park or wherever you can expect me to have a disgusted look on my face and you may even overhear me say something to my wife about your condition and what a shame it is. Hey, tell you what, if you think you can take me in a fist fight then get your fat ass up and do something about it. Otherwise, consider a lifestyle change.

/rant off

Outstanding.

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[Kaneman]

It's video games and television!

Nah, video games and television are awesome...but if that's all you do then yea, that's a problem.

Some schools are phasing out PE classes. It's sad because kids need physical activity. Plenty of kids sure as fuck aren't getting it at home.

Fucking sickening. That's what makes something in the back of my mind go, "There's got to be a goddamned conspiracy going on." How could administrators be so fucking stupid without actually trying? This is common sense at the most basic level you know...

Have you guys seen Wall E? Maybe Disney is trying to tell us something...
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[CrazyKell]

Some schools are phasing out PE classes. It's sad because kids need physical activity. Plenty of kids sure as fuck aren't getting it at home.

It's sad because a lot of teachers love PE and still want to teach it, but it's being phased out. Plus, even if it's a requirement kids and parents can still find a way to get out of it. You can't fight that. :idk:

I used to do something called 5 minute aerobics with my class every morning. It was a 5 minute fun video that we could do in the classroom and it actually got them moving.

Or on those days when things were getting hairy and we all needed a break....we'd go out to the playground and literally just run around like chickens with our heads cut off (me included) for 5 minutes. Kids tried to stretch it out to longer and they always thought they were pulling the wool over my eyes.....little did they know I was having the time of my life and trying to stay out there as long as possible! :lmao:

[Rider]

It's sad because a lot of teachers love PE and still want to teach it, but it's being phased out. Plus, even if it's a requirement kids and parents can still find a way to get out of it. You can't fight that. :idk:

I used to do something called 5 minute aerobics with my class every morning. It was a 5 minute fun video that we could do in the classroom and it actually got them moving.

Or on those days when things were getting hairy and we all needed a break....we'd go out to the playground and literally just run around like chickens with our heads cut off (me included) for 5 minutes. Kids tried to stretch it out to longer and they always thought they were pulling the wool over my eyes.....little did they know I was having the time of my life and trying to stay out there as long as possible! :lmao:

Cutting back on the time allowed for physical activity is bad enough but doing away with it all together? That's just insane. That's what schools are doing. They say that education is more important than being in shape and the kids need more time to devote to learning. Well, it is but you have to have a balance.

[the chi]

Remember the days when it was considered awesome to hold the record for most pull ups, or push ups, or be the fastest runner on the playground?

THATS what kids are missing!

[Kaneman]

They say that education is more important than being in shape and the kids need more time to devote to learning. Well, it is but you have to have a balance.

That's what I don't get, how is "education" more important than being in good physical shape? Being in good physical shape dictates how we do everything else, including learning.

Besides, if you've seen the drivel that they've been "teaching" in public school over the past few years then you kinda start thinking maybe the education isn't that important anyway. Personally, I'd rather you make my kid run laps, skate, hit a baseball or catch a pass for two hours than sitting him there prepping him for yet another standardized test.

Remember the days when it was considered awesome to hold the record for most pull ups, or push ups, or be the fastest runner on the playground?

THATS what kids are missing!

Completely agree with that.
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[Rider]

Remember the days when it was considered awesome to hold the record for most pull ups, or push ups, or be the fastest runner on the playground?

THATS what kids are missing!

That's right, competitiveness is going out the window. We are teaching our kids that mediocrity is ok.

Don't even get me started on "participation" trophies and not keeping score.... That's an entirely different rant.

[skiergirl]

man I remember Track & Field day at the end of the school year. We loved that, trying to beat the records every year and being outside all day doing all sorts of stuff, high jump, long jump, relay's....etc..

We'd get like 40 minutes for recess after lunch in elementary and I swear we RAN the entire time.....

Hell I remember being entertained jumping rope for an hour as a kid.

[the chi]

That's right, competitiveness is going out the window. We are teaching our kids that mediocrity is ok.

Don't even get me started on "participation" trophies and not keeping score.... That's an entirely different rant.

:lol: I admit, I am not competitive, but as a child I was very proud of my physical acheivements and I totally agree with you. Go ahead, recognize everyone, give them all a trophy, but reward those who excelled as well!

[tommymac]

That's right, competitiveness is going out the window. We are teaching our kids that mediocrity is ok.

Don't even get me started on "participation" trophies and not keeping score.... That's an entirely different rant.

We can make a whole other thread out of that. been on some good and bad teams as a kid and was on both ends of some lopsided scores. Fortunatley I had good coaches so we would get ready fo rthe next game and do better than the last time. I caqnt stand this everyone wins stuff.

I can dig up tons of journal articles about this growing problem and the impact it will have on healthcare in the next few years. Now I would like to see what kind of rhetoric obama will spew about that problem and how he wont adress it.

Tom

[tommymac]

Remember the days when it was considered awesome to hold the record for most pull ups, or push ups, or be the fastest runner on the playground?

THATS what kids are missing!

Now theyre worried about the kids who arent good at it then start listening to emo then grow up and shoot up the school because no one liked them.

maybe it was just me but I always worked harder to try to get to be one of those guys or be beter at baseball and football.

Tom

[BobTheBiker]

I think this shit they're teaching, bluntly put, is stupid SHIT. in FL, pretty much EVERYTHING is centered around the fucking FCAT test, which means nobody is learning, they're just preparing for a worthless test yearly.

then nobody is really getting any PE time doing exercise, they opt out and dont dress out or spend most of the time sittng on their asses on the side of the basketball court socializing rather than actually being active. face it, kids NEED activity and motivation. you parents know this. I really respect those of you who actually get your kid to exercise and not just play video games all day.

hell, as a kid, from 8 years old til the time I hit 19, I wouldnt sit still. I was ALWAYS out mowing the lawn, working on some project, running around, something. I cant stand the inactivity schools give you, its fucking worthless. I looked forward to the classes where I was gonna spend the second half of my day on my feet helping the janitors clean. it was constant activity and exercise, and I loved it.

[Papa_Complex]

It could be worse. They haven't started using that "Free to be You and Me" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_to_Be%E2%80%A6_You_and_Me) crap again, have they?

[Dave]

ok allow me to jump in with the devil's advocate outlook. if other peoples kids are fat and yours arent, your kids have that much better opportunitys for popularity, success, future mates, etc. fat little shits might even have heart attacks before they hit social security age ;)

[Kaneman]

ok allow me to jump in with the devil's advocate outlook. if other peoples kids are fat and yours arent, your kids have that much better opportunitys for popularity, success, future mates, etc. fat little shits might even have heart attacks before they hit social security age ;)

That'd be ok if they weren't so fat and disgusting I found myself losing my appetite when I'm about to pay $40 for a meal with my family.
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[Homeslice]

Today's kids mostly just sit around IM'ing and txt'ing each other...........

When they aren't surfing the net or playing video games, that is.

[wildchild]

Wildchild,

Now, are you saying the school actually tried to force you to put your kids on drugs? Man that shit is crazy. I saw a kid the other day (an acquantance of mine) who's pupils were more blown than any pothead I've ever met. I asked him why his kid was so high (the poor lad couldn't even respond to questions), he told me "he has ADD)

Wow.

yep the way it works here if they recommend it through the state you're screwed. You either put him on the drugs or they get you with neglect etc. kid is not allowed back in school until he is properly zombied. It is mind boggling to see how many kids they have on that crap here. all so the school can get more funds and the teacher has a more pleasant day. what could be easier then standing in front of a bunch of strung out zombies who have very little coherent thought of their own. (yes that's an over dramatization)

[wildchild]

Remember the days when it was considered awesome to hold the record for most pull ups, or push ups, or be the fastest runner on the playground?

THATS what kids are missing!

my son holds the record still in his old junior high for push ups and the 1 mile run.
his name is on the wall in his elem school as well.
unfortunately he didn't make his goal in high school but he tried.

[tommymac]

Today's kids mostly just sit around IM'ing and txt'ing each other...........

When they aren't surfing the net or playing video games, that is.

God forbid they actualy do anything in person they will all sit at home texting each other, how bout leaving the damn house and doing something.

Tom

[wildchild]

ok allow me to jump in with the devil's advocate outlook. if other peoples kids are fat and yours arent, your kids have that much better opportunitys for popularity, success, future mates, etc. fat little shits might even have heart attacks before they hit social security age ;)

dave don't take this personal, ( i know it sounds that way) that sounds like the voice of someone with no kids.

actually what happens is your child has to walk slower for the others
your child has to eat with them for as long as they want to eat lunch. everyone goes out at the same time
your child gets picked last for a team because it's not polite to pick the fat kid last
your child later gets passed over for a job because the fat kid will sue if he's "discriminated" against for his appearance. (wish I was kidding)
your child has to play games in PE (if they have it) that accomodate those who are "slower and less agile" (otherwise known as fat).
why correct the problem when it's much easier to appease the chubbies

[lauralynne]

You got it right. It's the lack of physical activity. People need to "unplug" their kids and get their ass outside. The amount of sugar that are in foods today doesn't help either. I read an article a while back that said Americans eat 5 times as much sugar(carbohydrate of any kind) as they did in the early 1900's.
That's a lot of damn sugar.

And then there's my kids.
My 15 year old daughter: Plays soccer 4 days a week (2+ hours each time), runs 3-5 miles 7 days a week, eats healthy with occasional (once/twice a week) treats.
My 13 year old son: Plays baseball 6 days a week, rides his bike sometimes with friends, goofs on his skateboard, eats healthy with occasional (once/twice a week) treats.

I don't allow snacks in my house - I fix 90% of my meals at home - no gravies, lean meat, very few carbs, lots of salads and veggies. Fast food once a month max.

They're allowed to watch a movie with us ONCE in awhile - like maybe 2 movies a month. Other than that - no TV. They use the computer for homework, no internet access. They don't own or play video games.
Yes - I'm a mean mom. I'm fine with that.

One child is 'short' compared to peers and probably 50 pounds overweight. One is "average" compared to peers and probably 20 pounds UNDERweight.
The overweight child just ran a 5K in February and finished in under 24 minutes. The underweight child ran about 1 minute slower. They're both very physically fit. But with diametrically opposed bodies.

Given that all of the above is absolutely true - can you determine which child is overweight and which is under?

Genetics DO play a part.

[Kaneman]

Laura,
The thread isn't about kids who are simply overweight, its about obese kids that couldn't play 10 minutes of soccer out in the sun if their life depended on it.

NFL lineman are "overweight" too but those guys can easily outrun my skinny ass. People have different body types, I've got no problem with that. I'm referring to the growing portion of really obese kids that you can take one look at and realize they haven't run more than 10 feet in the last year.
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[tommymac]

Laura,
The thread isn't about kids who are simply overweight, its about obese kids that couldn't play 10 minutes of soccer out in the sun if their life depended on it.

NFL lineman are "overweight" too but those guys can easily outrun my skinny ass. People have different body types, I've got no problem with that. I'm referring to the growing portion of really obese kids that you can take one look at and realize they haven't run more than 10 feet in the last year.

And run over, I tried being one of those guys but it didnt pan out :lol: you have ot be nice to us big luvable animals otherwise me and curb will make ya into snake food :lol:

Sadly alot of those guys do develop health problems after they retire unless they take the weight off.

Tom

[Dave]

dave don't take this personal, ( i know it sounds that way) that sounds like the voice of someone with no kids.

actually what happens is your child has to walk slower for the others
your child has to eat with them for as long as they want to eat lunch. everyone goes out at the same time
your child gets picked last for a team because it's not polite to pick the fat kid last
your child later gets passed over for a job because the fat kid will sue if he's "discriminated" against for his appearance. (wish I was kidding)
your child has to play games in PE (if they have it) that accomodate those who are "slower and less agile" (otherwise known as fat).
why correct the problem when it's much easier to appease the chubbies

no worries. I think both our views went to the extreme side of the scale and im sure yours is based on true life experiences as mine were (i was actually trying to bring some levity to the thread but ill stand behind parts of it and i expect kids to self regulate at least up to highschool)

[tommymac]

dave don't take this personal, ( i know it sounds that way) that sounds like the voice of someone with no kids.

actually what happens is your child has to walk slower for the others
your child has to eat with them for as long as they want to eat lunch. everyone goes out at the same time
your child gets picked last for a team because it's not polite to pick the fat kid last
your child later gets passed over for a job because the fat kid will sue if he's "discriminated" against for his appearance. (wish I was kidding)
your child has to play games in PE (if they have it) that accomodate those who are "slower and less agile" (otherwise known as fat).
why correct the problem when it's much easier to appease the chubbies


But at least later in life they wont be at the doctors all the time getting all their health problems treated due to their obeesity ;)

Tom

[Kaneman]

And run over, I tried being one of those guys but it didnt pan out :lol: you have ot be nice to us big luvable animals otherwise me and curb will make ya into snake food :lol:

Sadly alot of those guys do develop health problems after they retire unless they take the weight off.

Tom

haha, please, Curb is NOT that big.
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[Homeslice]

And then there's my kids.
My 15 year old daughter: Plays soccer 4 days a week (2+ hours each time), runs 3-5 miles 7 days a week, eats healthy with occasional (once/twice a week) treats.
My 13 year old son: Plays baseball 6 days a week, rides his bike sometimes with friends, goofs on his skateboard, eats healthy with occasional (once/twice a week) treats.

I don't allow snacks in my house - I fix 90% of my meals at home - no gravies, lean meat, very few carbs, lots of salads and veggies. Fast food once a month max.

They're allowed to watch a movie with us ONCE in awhile - like maybe 2 movies a month. Other than that - no TV. They use the computer for homework, no internet access. They don't own or play video games.
Yes - I'm a mean mom. I'm fine with that.

One child is 'short' compared to peers and probably 50 pounds overweight. One is "average" compared to peers and probably 20 pounds UNDERweight.
The overweight child just ran a 5K in February and finished in under 24 minutes. The underweight child ran about 1 minute slower. They're both very physically fit. But with diametrically opposed bodies.

Given that all of the above is absolutely true - can you determine which child is overweight and which is under?

Genetics DO play a part.

15 y/o and no internet access? You can bet they're getting it thru their friends anyway :shrug:

[unknownroad]

On behalf of us fat guys, i respectfully submit:
:gofurslf:

...dave

[cuttle]

It is "neglect" in South Carolina:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/21/211912/search-555-pound-south-carolina-teen-mom/

[Kaneman]

On behalf of us fat guys, i respectfully submit:
:gofurslf:

...dave

Calm down and have another Hoho sparky! hahaha
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[the chi]

It is "neglect" in South Carolina:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/21/211912/search-555-pound-south-carolina-teen-mom/

OMG, that poor kid!

[wildchild]

no worries. I think both our views went to the extreme side of the scale and im sure yours is based on true life experiences as mine were (i was actually trying to bring some levity to the thread but ill stand behind parts of it and i expect kids to self regulate at least up to highschool)


very true, i look at things from the other extreme. my son was always very into sports and what not.

[wildchild]

Calm down and have another Hoho sparky! hahaha

somebody say ho ho?

how come only the big guys get the ho ho's? little guys like them to you know. have you had the ones with caramel? OMG I think they had to quit making them they were totally addictive. :dribble:

On behalf of us fat guys, i respectfully submit:
:gofurslf:

...dave


:lol

[Dave]

On behalf of us fat guys, i respectfully submit:
:gofurslf:

...dave

ever seen pictures of me? im not exactly captain skinny ;) matter of fact im quite a bit heavier than i look (thanks bone structure!)

[lauralynne]

15 y/o and no internet access? You can bet they're getting it thru their friends anyway :shrug:

Nope - she's school, soccer, trainer, home. She has a facebook, myspace, and email - I have access to all of it. She's seldom on. We live 30 miles from her school, her commute is 1.5 hours each way. I guarantee she has ver little internet access and I monitor 99% of it.

[Rider]

It is "neglect" in South Carolina:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/21/211912/search-555-pound-south-carolina-teen-mom/

Funny, I saw my first chickenhead in SC last week. SC has some fucked up people living there. Well some cool people live there too. I had had to show my wife what a "chickenhead" was. We laughed for about 30 minutes after we saw here.