Well My Girlfriend Is Taking MSF!

[Amber Lamps]

Yep my girlfriend just left to sign up for MSF and I don't know how to handle the situation...:panic: I have a hard time riding in a car with her driving, much less with her behind me on a bike! She's got it in her head that she wants a bike and her family put almost $4,000 in her pockets from her birthday so she certainly can afford one. She wanted a 600 but I told her that if she wants a real girl's bike, she'll get a SV650 or Ninja 650R...:lol: Just kidding! Actually, I showed her the Ninja 250 in the blue which she really likes so she put a deposit on it and it should be in next month. While we're waiting I'm also looking at those UM bikes...:idk: I've seen about 5 of them in the past couple weeks and there's a dealer not too far away.

[CrazyKell]

That's great she's learning to ride and taking the MSF.

I wish I'd taken it! Good choice on the 250 too!

[Amber Lamps]

Just in case you're not familiar with those bikes...

http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/motorcycles/sp/features/features2.html#usa_motosp2

[RACER X]

good for her!

[wildchild]

that's great she's learning to ride. I like it much better that way. My girl started riding quite a while ago.

I do have one thought though. I always see people as you mentioned with their new riders in the back. I usually make my newbies ride in front of me. This does a few things for me. number one it makes them make decisions about riding on their own. They can't just blindly follow me which is what most newbies will do.
number two it keeps cars off of their butt. I can handle the pressure of a car right on our ass as we ride at newbie speed better then someone who is just trying to figure out which gear they should be in.
three: I can watch how they ride. body position,shifting/braking/accelerating smoothness and offer advice as needed.
fourth and probably most important. we ride at their pace. they never feel pressured to keep up with me.

i have taught a number of people to ride successfully and this has always worked. they are a little timid at first about being in front but they get used to it quick.

the ninja 250 is an awesome first bike.

[CrazyKell]

If I'm out with a new rider I put them at the front too but make sure they know not to keep looking in their mirrors excessively.

I almost crashed as a newbie because I was too focused on what was going on behind me.

[Amber Lamps]

that's great she's learning to ride. I like it much better that way. My girl started riding quite a while ago.

I do have one thought though. I always see people as you mentioned with their new riders in the back. I usually make my newbies ride in front of me. This does a few things for me. number one it makes them make decisions about riding on their own. They can't just blindly follow me which is what most newbies will do.
number two it keeps cars off of their butt. I can handle the pressure of a car right on our ass as we ride at newbie speed better then someone who is just trying to figure out which gear they should be in.
three: I can watch how they ride. body position,shifting/braking/accelerating smoothness and offer advice as needed.
fourth and probably most important. we ride at their pace. they never feel pressured to keep up with me.

i have taught a number of people to ride successfully and this has always worked. they are a little timid at first about being in front but they get used to it quick.

the ninja 250 is an awesome first bike.

Oh I've taught several people to ride as well, and am actually a huge proponent of putting the "slower" riders in front to set the pace. I was just "turning a phrase', I will be sure to ride with her in front for weeks after she gets her bike. Besides, this chick has an AWESOME ASS, so riding behind her will not be a problem!!!:drool:

UPDATE! I just got a call from the dealer saying that they have a black 250 that the deal fell through on they'll sell for $4k OTD, hmmm....:whistle:
When she gets back from signing up, I'll see what she thinks.

[HurricaneHeather]

Oh I've taught several people to ride as well, and am actually a huge proponent of putting the "slower" riders in front to set the pace. I was just "turning a phrase', I will be sure to ride with her in front for weeks after she gets her bike. Besides, this chick has an AWESOME ASS, so riding behind her will not be a problem!!!:drool:

UPDATE! I just got a call from the dealer saying that they have a black 250 that the deal fell through on they'll sell for $4k OTD, hmmm....:whistle:
When she gets back from signing up, I'll see what she thinks.

After 25,000 miles and 4 years, I can attest that the Ninja 250 is a great first bike. :D

[wildchild]

Oh I've taught several people to ride as well, and am actually a huge proponent of putting the "slower" riders in front to set the pace. I was just "turning a phrase', I will be sure to ride with her in front for weeks after she gets her bike. Besides, this chick has an AWESOME ASS, so riding behind her will not be a problem!!!:drool:

UPDATE! I just got a call from the dealer saying that they have a black 250 that the deal fell through on they'll sell for $4k OTD, hmmm....:whistle:
When she gets back from signing up, I'll see what she thinks.

very nice!!

No interest in a used 250? I see them around here for 2K to 2500 quite a bit.

[azoomm]

How about, take the MSF - pass the MSF, THEN buy a bike?

[goof2]

Just in case you're not familiar with those bikes...

http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/motorcycles/sp/features/features2.html#usa_motosp2

I don't know what kind of deals they are willing to swing on those but MSRP on their 250 is more than the baby Ninja and I would think the Ninja would be worth more when it is time to sell due to the Kawasaki name. Some of the lesser known Chinese and Korean brands also have weak parts support.

[Amber Lamps]

very nice!!

No interest in a used 250? I see them around here for 2K to 2500 quite a bit.


Nah, she says they're "ugly"...:idk: At least the new baby Ninja looks cool!

This,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/2002-Kawasaki-Ninja250Ra.jpg


VS this,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/bluekawasakininja250rsportbike.jpg


Hmmm....

[Amber Lamps]

I don't know what kind of deals they are willing to swing on those but MSRP on their 250 is more than the baby Ninja and I would think the Ninja would be worth more when it is time to sell due to the Kawasaki name. Some of the lesser known Chinese and Korean brands also have weak parts support.

Supposedly, parts support is good and the warranty is 2-3 times as long. Not to mention their bike is a v-twin, has adjustable rearsets, sport bike clip ons, perimeter frame, etc. :idk:

Oh and they'll let a 2009 go for $4,000 OTD.

[HurricaneHeather]

Nah, she says they're "ugly"...:idk: At least the new baby Ninja looks cool!

This,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/2002-Kawasaki-Ninja250Ra.jpg


VS this,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/bluekawasakininja250rsportbike.jpg


Hmmm....


She might change her mind after the first, second, third time she drops the pretty little thing. :wink:

[Amber Lamps]

She might change her mind after the first, second, third time she drops the pretty little thing. :wink:


Aw she don't plan on dropping it!:lol: Besides, that's what insurance is for, isn't it?:wink:

[Rider]

She might change her mind after the first, second, third time she drops the pretty little thing. :wink:

Are you talking about dropping it in the driveway or wrecking it on the street? I've had bikes most of my life, mostly dirt bikes and I NEVER dropped any of them in the driveway. Why do people automatically assume you are going to let your bike fall over in the driveway?

[Amber Lamps]

Are you talking about dropping it in the driveway or wrecking it on the street? I've had bikes most of my life, mostly dirt bikes and I NEVER dropped any of them in the driveway. Why do people automatically assume you are going to let your bike fall over in the driveway?

Because THEY were stupid enough to do it!!! I couldn't resist!!! I've never dropped one in a driveway either. I've come close a couple of times though! FWIW, my gf isn't some wee little thing, she's 5'11 and has played sports all through school. Before she was injured she had planned to play for the WNBA. She is plenty tall and strong enough to hold up a baby ninja!

[z06boy]

Just in case you're not familiar with those bikes...

http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/motorcycles/sp/features/features2.html#usa_motosp2

I'm not familiar with those ....thanks.

My wife took the MSF course and it helped bigtime !! I started teaching her how to actually ride on the street AFTER she took this course to get the basics. I then would ride her bike and she would follow in the car to an industrial park or somewhere like that for her to practice.

She's done well.

[azoomm]

Are you talking about dropping it in the driveway or wrecking it on the street? I've had bikes most of my life, mostly dirt bikes and I NEVER dropped any of them in the driveway. Why do people automatically assume you are going to let your bike fall over in the driveway?

Knock on something...

I said that a few years ago - then moving a friend's bike in the garage and my foot slipped on a leaf. After 15 years I had a static *crash*.

In fear of angering the kharma Gods - I won't tell you my current status of drops :lol:

[HurricaneHeather]

Aw she don't plan on dropping it!:lol: Besides, that's what insurance is for, isn't it?:wink:

And you have just angered the karma gods. Get ready to replace a few turn signals. :wink:

[Amber Lamps]

And you have just angered the karma gods. Get ready to replace a few turn signals. :wink:


Oh for sure! She's had a scooter for years and never just dropped that... but I'm sure that it's possible for sure. I just don't see any reason to buy a bike based on that possibility.:idk: Besides, why wouldn't you repair the turn signals on the used bike? Regardless of what she gets, she's not going to let it go to shit so if anything gets broken, it'll get repaired. I'm sorry girls but the new bike just looks 10x better than the old bike without question.

[RACER X]

How about, take the MSF - pass the MSF, THEN buy a bike?

that would make too much sense. :tremble:

[Amber Lamps]

How about, take the MSF - pass the MSF, THEN buy a bike?

Okay now, for one the MSF is not necessary to buy a bike in NC so just taking it period is a step. Besides, who said she was bringing the bike home before she passes?:idk: She has money on a Ninja 250 because they are in short supply and if she waits until after she takes the course, she won't be able to get one period. What kind of sense would it make to take the stupid class and not be able to get the bike you want? Are you incapable of being nice? Yeesh!:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

that would make too much sense. :tremble:

I'm looking outside and nope I don't see a Ninja 250 out there so I guess that she hasn't bought a fucking thing yet... it makes sense to have ALL of your ducks in order at the same time if you expect to get into a class that is usually booked 2 months in advance and if you plan on buying a bike that is in short supply! Well, I guess she shouldn't have bothered calling State Farm to check to see what her insurance would cost since she doesn't have the bike yet...

[shmike]

I'm looking outside and nope I don't see a Ninja 250 out there so I guess that she hasn't bought a fucking thing yet... it makes sense to have ALL of your ducks in order at the same time if you expect to get into a class that is usually booked 2 months in advance and if you plan on buying a bike that is in short supply! Well, I guess she shouldn't have bothered calling State Farm to check to see what her insurance would cost since she doesn't have the bike yet...

That would make too much sense. :tremble:

[skiergirl]

The new Ninja's def have a sleeker, sporty look to them and WTF if she can afford it go for it. I like the blue!

[Amber Lamps]

The new Ninja's def have a sleeker, sporty look to them and WTF if she can afford it go for it. I like the blue!

Yea her too! Hey fuck the spec sheets, the numbers, the whatever- she saw that blue and bang that was it!!!:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

That would make too much sense. :tremble:

Right? And who the fuck are these idiots that can't pass the motherfucking MSF course? Seriously?

[Kaneman]

number two it keeps cars off of their butt. I can handle the pressure of a car right on our ass as we ride at newbie speed better then someone who is just trying to figure out which gear they should be in.


This is the best advice right here. When I bought my ex-girlfriend a Ninja 250 she crashed on her first time out because some asshole was all over her butt while she was trying to make a left turn off a main road. If I would've been smart enough to be in the back and run interference I could've prevented that.
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[RACER X]

Right? And who the fuck are these idiots that can't pass the motherfucking MSF course? Seriously?

people like your GF..........:wtfru:

they don't come to class expecting to fail, but they do.

its all fun and games till somebody looses a deposit.

[Amber Lamps]

people like your GF..........:wtfru:

they don't come to class expecting to fail, but they do.

its all fun and games till somebody looses a deposit.

You don't have to pass the MSF course to buy a bike or get a motorcycle endorsement so how is she going to lose her deposit? Whether or not she passes, she can still buy her bike buddy!:wink:

[Kaneman]

Aw she don't plan on dropping it!:lol: Besides, that's what insurance is for, isn't it?:wink:

haha, hopefully she's smarter than me.

The ONLY, and I seriously mean ONLY time I've ever operated a motor vehicle while I was drunk I had left my ZRX1200R in the front yard and decided I needed to put it in the garage.

Knowing I was drunk I decided I was going to be very very careful. So I eased her in there (fully loaded with 200lbs of camping gear because I was leaving for a multi-month motorcycle trip the next couple of days), hit the kill switch and went to set her down.

Only I forgot to put the kickstand down and SLAM!!! There I went into a pile of glass Xmas ornaments. Cut the shit out of my hand, lol. I was trapped under my bike 'til my buddy came outside to see where the hell I went.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/PsychoMedic/bloodyhand.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/PsychoMedic/joetgarcias.jpg
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[Kaneman]

people like your GF..........:wtfru:

they don't come to class expecting to fail, but they do.

its all fun and games till somebody looses a deposit.

Are you guys serious or are you just bagging on Tigger because he's Tigger. Come on man...

I was on my second bike by the time I signed up and took the MSF course and we bought my girlfriend's long before MSF and taught her to ride it in the back yard.

Its NOT that big a deal, if she wants to buy it before hand.

Personally, if I had to do it all over again I'd make absolutely SURE I had a motorcycle prepped and ready to go so I could go riding on graduation day.
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[Amber Lamps]

haha, hopefully she's smarter than me.

The ONLY, and I seriously mean ONLY time I've ever operated a motor vehicle while I was drunk I had left my ZRX1200R in the front yard and decided I needed to put it in the garage.

Knowing I was drunk I decided I was going to be very very careful. So I eased her in there (fully loaded with 200lbs of camping gear because I was leaving for a multi-month motorcycle trip the next couple of days), hit the kill switch and went to set her down.

Only I forgot to put the kickstand down and SLAM!!! There I went into a pile of glass Xmas ornaments. Cut the shit out of my hand, lol. I was trapped under my bike 'til my buddy came outside to see where the hell I went.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/PsychoMedic/bloodyhand.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/PsychoMedic/joetgarcias.jpg

:lol: Hey how is the food at Joe E Garcia's? Maybe I'll swing down there and get a burrito!:rockwoot:

[CrazyKell]

its all fun and games till somebody looses a deposit.


Is that like when your deposit becomes unrestrained or unfastened? :skep:

[Kaneman]

:lol: Hey how is the food at Joe E Garcia's? Maybe I'll swing down there and get a burrito!:rockwoot:

Its shit, I hate that place. Its always an hour long wait and I make better Mexican food than they do, plus the small (but strong) margaritas are $7 a piece and the food isn't exactly budget...though it tastes like they use budget meat.

This is Fort Worth, TX and there are a lot better places to get Mexican within a 2 mile radius of Joe T's.

People go there for the name, the atmosphere and the tons of smoking hot chics.
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[wildchild]

Nah, she says they're "ugly"...:idk: At least the new baby Ninja looks cool!

This,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/2002-Kawasaki-Ninja250Ra.jpg


VS this,

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/bluekawasakininja250rsportbike.jpg


Hmmm....

totally agree the new ones look much better.

[Amber Lamps]

The MSF Nazi and the Gear Nazi mindset,
You can't buy a bike unless you take the MSF and you can't ride a bike unless you have on full gear.

Well guess what? Yes you can! I went the extra mile and talked her into this course, mostly because I don't want to teach her and I talked her down from a 600... I'm done at this point. If she doesn't pass the course for some reason I'm sure that she'll get the bike anyway and I'll try to teach her to ride as best I can.

[skiergirl]

HA, I rode my GSXR 750 to the MSF course (no license and probably only a helmet for gear) ....and the only reason i took it was you got your license at the end AND more importantly the Ins discount. I was 17 and too stupid to know any better then.....:)

At least she's taking it and starting out on a good sized bike for a newbie...so she's already a step ahead of where most of us started.

[Amber Lamps]

Its shit, I hate that place. Its always an hour long wait and I make better Mexican food than they do, plus the small (but strong) margaritas are $7 a piece and the food isn't exactly budget...though it tastes like they use budget meat.

This is Fort Worth, TX and there are a lot better places to get Mexican within a 2 mile radius of Joe T's.

People go there for the name, the atmosphere and the tons of smoking hot chics.

All right! Mexican Hooters!!!

[z06boy]

totally agree the new ones look much better.

Yes they do.

[RACER X]

You don't have to pass the MSF course to buy a bike or get a motorcycle endorsement so how is she going to lose her deposit? Whether or not she passes, she can still buy her bike buddy!:wink:

so lets say she fails MSF (95+% pass, so my guess is she'll pass) , if she fails you think it's a good idea for her to still get a bike? and she may also rethink that decisoin, pressure from spouses is usually not a good on her making the right decision.

you guys really think there's a 100% pass rate?

[marko138]

HA, I rode my GSXR 750 to the MSF course (no license and probably only a helmet for gear) ....and the only reason i took it was you got your license at the end .

Me too. And my brother. We both had GSXR 750's.

[wildchild]

Are you guys serious or are you just bagging on Tigger because he's Tigger. Come on man...

I was on my second bike by the time I signed up and took the MSF course and we bought my girlfriend's long before MSF and taught her to ride it in the back yard.

Its NOT that big a deal, if she wants to buy it before hand.

Personally, if I had to do it all over again I'd make absolutely SURE I had a motorcycle prepped and ready to go so I could go riding on graduation day.

I guess they would hate the fact that my 16 yr old son was riding his baby ninja to MSF every day. Course the kid grew up on bikes so it was a little different for him. I got to stay at class with him and on range days they let me reign him and the other youngster in a little. Not that they did anything wrong they just did things too well and quickly. (they loved that little slalom excercise :)) the other young guy rode to class as well.

we rode home one night with one of the instructors in a driving rain and lightning struck a capaitor right over my son's head. He got kudos from the instructor for not flinching on that one. Wish I would have gotten a picture of it. black sky, lightning and a silhoutte of baby ninja. very cool.

[Amber Lamps]

HA, I rode my GSXR 750 to the MSF course (no license and probably only a helmet for gear) ....and the only reason i took it was you got your license at the end AND more importantly the Ins discount. I was 17 and too stupid to know any better then.....:)

At least she's taking it and starting out on a good sized bike for a newbie...so she's already a step ahead of where most of us started.

Exactly, she's already bought a new jacket, gloves and a helmet. We're gonna run to Cycle Gear when my kevlar jeans are in tomorrow and possibly look at some for her.

[Amber Lamps]

I guess they would hate the fact that my 16 yr old son was riding his baby ninja to MSF every day. Course the kid grew up on bikes so it was a little different for him. I got to stay at class with him and on range days they let me reign him and the other youngster in a little. Not that they did anything wrong they just did things too well and quickly. (they loved that little slalom excercise :)) the other young guy rode to class as well.

we rode home one night with one of the instructors in a driving rain and lightning struck a capaitor right over my son's head. He got kudos from the instructor for not flinching on that one. Wish I would have gotten a picture of it. black sky, lightning and a silhoutte of baby ninja. very cool.

Her Dad rides and she grew up with dirt bikes and quads. Plus she's has a scooter, not the same thing but it'll be helpful experience during the balance and maneuvering exercises.

[Kaneman]

Exactly, she's already bought a new jacket, gloves and a helmet. We're gonna run to Cycle Gear when my kevlar jeans are in tomorrow and possibly look at some for her..

JEEEEAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNSSSSSS FTW!!!!!

hahahahaha
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[Amber Lamps]

so lets say she fails MSF (95+% pass, so my guess is she'll pass) , if she fails you think it's a good idea for her to still get a bike? and she may also rethink that decisoin, pressure from spouses is usually not a good on her making the right decision.

you guys really think there's a 100% pass rate?

Nope, I think that the 5% that don't pass have something wrong with them!:lol: Shit anyone with an iq over 75 and that has ridden a Spree should be able to pass the MSF course! Besides, if she doesn't pass she still has to pass the driver's test for NC. Which is performed on the same course btw.

[Amber Lamps]

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JEEEEAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNSSSSSS FTW!!!!!

hahahahaha

Yea I don't know but even you might endorse these bro!

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[marko138]

Nope, I think that the 5% that don't pass have something wrong with them!:lol: Shit anyone with an iq over 75 and that has ridden a Spree should be able to pass the MSF course! Besides, if she doesn't pass she still has to pass the driver's test for NC. Which is performed on the same course btw.
Everyone in my class passed. Even the two girls who laid their bikes over.

[Amber Lamps]

Everyone in my class passed. Even the two girls who laid their bikes over.

:lol:

[marko138]

:lol:
I'm dead serious.

[RACER X]

I'm dead serious.

and in my 4 yrs of teaching, can't remember the # of people that failed, nor # of drops, let alone all out crashes, 1 broken ankle is the most sever injury in 1 of my classes, lotsa road rash.

i've heard of 1 death in an MSF class (an inst)
2 deaths in HD's riders edge program (students)

[wildchild]

my son's class had two fails. one crashed hard, had to go to hosp that night, the other quit after seeing it.

[z06boy]

On the last little figure-8 deal they told my wife's class that anyone that put their foot down failed.

[RACER X]

On the last little figure-8 deal they told my wife's class that anyone that put their foot down failed.

in TX the only thing that auto-fails you in the final eval. is dropping/crashing the bike.


thats pretty harsh for the fig. 8.

[Amber Lamps]

and in my 4 yrs of teaching, can't remember the # of people that failed, nor # of drops, let alone all out crashes, 1 broken ankle is the most sever injury in 1 of my classes, lotsa road rash.

i've heard of 1 death in an MSF class (an inst)
2 deaths in HD's riders edge program (students)


WHAT??? Well then I'm not letting her take it then! I'm not going to risk her fucking life just so she can avoid taking the driving test!!!

[marko138]

On the last little figure-8 deal they told my wife's class that anyone that put their foot down failed.
My instructors told us who could ride straight thru the figure-8 box and still pass.

[Amber Lamps]

On the last little figure-8 deal they told my wife's class that anyone that put their foot down failed.

Yea I've heard that too! If my gf happens to accidentally put her foot down during the "8", I don't think that makes her unqualified to operate a motorcycle.

[Rider]

Laying the bike over during the test was an automatic failure. We had two girls fail. There was even a guy who dropped the rebel 250 he was on in practice but he kept it up for the test and passed.

[HurricaneHeather]

Her Dad rides and she grew up with dirt bikes and quads. Plus she's has a scooter, not the same thing but it'll be helpful experience during the balance and maneuvering exercises.

See that is different....she knows how to work something on two wheels already.

We bought our Ninja before I took MSF, but it was our 'other' vehicle at the time so we were going to ride whether we liked it or not. :lol:

I laid my bike down twice the first day I had it. First time ever touching the controls of a bike. My dads says, "here is the clutch, break, and throttle. Take it around the building." :lol: Down I went after the second turn. :doh:

[Amber Lamps]

See that is different....she knows how to work something on two wheels already.

We bought our Ninja before I took MSF, but it was our 'other' vehicle at the time so we were going to ride whether we liked it or not. :lol:

I laid my bike down twice the first day I had it. First time ever touching the controls of a bike. My dads says, "here is the clutch, break, and throttle. Take it around the building." :lol: Down I went after the second turn. :doh:

Um no offense to your father but I think that I can do a little bit better in the training dept than that!:lol:

[wildchild]

See that is different....she knows how to work something on two wheels already.

We bought our Ninja before I took MSF, but it was our 'other' vehicle at the time so we were going to ride whether we liked it or not. :lol:

I laid my bike down twice the first day I had it. First time ever touching the controls of a bike. My dads says, "here is the clutch, break, and throttle. Take it around the building." :lol: Down I went after the second turn. :doh:

talk about tough love. lol

[HurricaneHeather]

Um no offense to your father but I think that I can do a little bit better in the training dept than that!:lol:

:lol:

It was pretty funny like a few weeks later. I was pretty irritated at him for that for quite a while. He just thought after watching him that the dangers of target fixation would have been transmitted to me through osmosis...he was very wrong. :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

talk about tough love. lol

he probably threw her in the lake to teach her how to swim as well!!!:lol:

[RACER X]

Um no offense to your father but I think that I can do a little bit better in the training dept than that!:lol:

from experience, we try and keep spouses apart during class. the riding one can and is usually determental to new riders. esp. one's that have never ridden before or have very little exp. w/ bikes.

the prob. is that alot of people project their experiences onto these new riders. we have some that i don't think could ride a bicycle let alone a motorcycle. and alot of you guys have alot of bike experience before taking the course, alot of these younger ricer kids (and women) have never shifted a car, let alone rode a bike(motorcycle, i've had some that have never ridden a bicycle, CRAZY) , but they are hell bent on getting a 600SS bike.

here's a STAT, +/- 90% of motorcycle deaths are people taught by family and friends vs a course.

[marko138]

he probably threw her in the lake to teach her how to swim as well!!!:lol:
I did that to my dog, he made out pretty well.

[Amber Lamps]

I did that to my dog, he made out pretty well.

:lol: Marko is on a roll!

[HurricaneHeather]

he probably threw her in the lake to teach her how to swim as well!!!:lol:

No but he did decide that I had to learn to drive on his truck and not my mom's car. He claims that if I can drive that truck, I can drive anything. :lol:

He still complains about having to teach me to drive that truck. In fact he made a comment about it on Facebook today. :lmao:

[wildchild]

he probably threw her in the lake to teach her how to swim as well!!!:lol:

Ok not funny my dad did that. :td:

[marko138]

:lol: Marko is on a roll!
I'm serious, man. He was timid as a pup to get in the water. So I tossed his ass in the deep end of the pool. My wife freaked out, I held her at bay. After a few seconds of splashing and head bobbing...he paddled his back legs and started swimming. Now I can't keep him out of the water.

[wildchild]

here's a STAT, +/- 90% of motorcycle deaths are people taught by family and friends vs a course.

that "stat" takes into account many years of accidents before msf was around as well correct. what about 90% of last years accidents?
i only ask because of all the people I have taught to ride none have crashed, my son who went to MSF crashed.
was it msf fault of course not.
I guess I would say the stat is 100 % of crashes are msf grads.

[RACER X]

that "stat" takes into account many years of accidents before msf was around as well correct. what about 90% of last years accidents?
i only ask because of all the people I have taught to ride none have crashed, my son who went to MSF crashed.
was it msf fault of course not.
I guess I would say the stat is 100 % of crashes are msf grads.

naw it was over a 1yr period but it has held for quite a few yrs. and its DEAD not crashed. many people have crashed MSF or not, but the huge maj. that die haven't taken MSF or similar.

[the chi]

Congrats Tig, thats pretty exciting. Let us know which bike she ends up with (blue or black). I love the look of the new ninja's versus the old like I had. :dthumb:

[Amber Lamps]

And the paint job has been chosen if she ends up with the black...

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/2467276157_e898714b96_o.jpg

[HurricaneHeather]

Oh my.... :lol:

[wildchild]

And the paint job has been chosen if she ends up with the black...

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/2467276157_e898714b96_o.jpg


very cool. any pics of what it would be?

[the chi]

Thats actually pretty sharp, the pink not so much, but I love the pattern. Are those plastics or actual paint?

[marko138]

Attach them shits.

[wildchild]

ah crap the work filters got me again dind't they? can't see the pics.

[marko138]

ah crap the work filters got me again dind't they? can't see the pics.
Me too.

[RACER X]

$4K d.o is a good price for 1, around here it usually ends up being ~$4500

i;ve seen a green one w/ the "monster" sticker kit that looked really nice.

[Amber Lamps]

Here ya go!

[Amber Lamps]

I like this design but maybe with the blue.. or even white instead of the green...

[Krabill]

I guess I'm in the camp that doesn't understand why she should wait until after the msf to buy a bike. Did you wait until after you passed your driver's license test to buy a car?

[Amber Lamps]

Thats actually pretty sharp, the pink not so much, but I love the pattern. Are those plastics or actual paint?

Plastic and of course you'd have to get the tank sprayed.

[Amber Lamps]

I guess I'm in the camp that doesn't understand why she should wait until after the msf to buy a bike. Did you wait until after you passed your driver's license test to buy a car?

Shit son, I knew a guy who had 4 cars before he had his license, true story! Besides, she's confident she will pass or she'll take it again or she'll just buy the damn thing. You do not have to take the MSF course to ride a motorcycle anywhere in the United States of America. It is voluntary. I had a MC license for years before I took the MSF and only took it then because the Army made me once came back from overseas duty! Oh btw I'm ASSuming you meant "shouldn't".:lol:

Driver's license>MSF course:lol:

[HurricaneHeather]

I don't think everyone was saying that she should wait until after the MSF to get a bike because she might not pass...more that a lot of people take the MSF and realize that they don't like riding. :shrug:

But since you said later that she has experience already, then she probably has a good idea that she will enjoy it. :dthumb:

[Krabill]

Nope, I meant "should". Go buy it. Really. I don't see the big deal with buying it first.

[RACER X]

Driver's license>MSF course:lol:

scary how easy it is to get a DL "M" vs MSF class, at least w/ class you have a clue.....

[wildchild]

Shit son, I knew a guy who had 4 cars before he had his license, true story! Besides, she's confident she will pass or she'll take it again or she'll just buy the damn thing. You do not have to take the MSF course to ride a motorcycle anywhere in the United States of America. It is voluntary. I had a MC license for years before I took the MSF and only took it then because the Army made me once came back from overseas duty! Oh btw I'm ASSuming you meant "shouldn't".:lol:

Driver's license>MSF course:lol:


i rode 15 yrs on road bikes before I bothered to get a bike license. :) gal at the DMV was pretty cool she said she had done the same.

the graphics look very cool.

[RACER X]

Nope, I meant "should". Go buy it. Really. I don't see the big deal with buying it first.

i've had people in class w/ bikes in the garage that failed, now what? if they fail such an easy course should they really be on the road?

we've had students take the class 2-3x and finally pass.

[wildchild]

the guy in my son's class who quit had a brand new HD in the garage. No longer wanted to even try riding. I guess no one told him these things could tip over.

[Krabill]

i've had people in class w/ bikes in the garage that failed, now what? if they fail such an easy course should they really be on the road?

we've had students take the class 2-3x and finally pass.

Should they be on the road? No, but there are a lot of people who do a lot of things they shouldn't be doing. How many people do you know who don't have a driver's license? I don't know any, but I certainly know a few who shouldn't be on the street.

I also know a bunch of people who own/drive boats that have no business being on the water. Same for any other mode of transportation.

I'm just happy she wants a 250 :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Should they be on the road? No, but there are a lot of people who do a lot of things they shouldn't be doing. How many people do you know who don't have a driver's license? I don't know any, but I certainly know a few who shouldn't be on the street.

I also know a bunch of people who own/drive boats that have no business being on the water. Same for any other mode of transportation.

I'm just happy she wants a 250 :lol:


Seriously? Cool! Thanks Krabill!

I mean I talked her into a 250, I talked her into the MSF, I bought her some gear, what the fuck do you want from me Racer X? How in the hell can anyone ever please you? Does EVERYTHING have to be done your exact way or we are fucking dumbasses or what?!?! If it were up to her she would have bought a used CBR600RR, got her permit and be riding around town right fucking now in shorts, a tank top and the brain bucket she wore on her god damn scooter! Give me a break ass hole!!!!












:overkill:

:big:

:bigrofl:

[racedoll]

Yeah for her! She is taking the MSF, has gear, and is getting a bike she likes.

If you didn't say anything about her having a scooter, I would just suggest getting a used bike so you don't put as much money into a new one only to find out she doesn't like riding on the street... but it doesn't sound like you have to worry about that.

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah for her! She is taking the MSF, has gear, and is getting a bike she likes.

If you didn't say anything about her having a scooter, I would just suggest getting a used bike so you don't put as much money into a new one only to find out she doesn't like riding on the street... but it doesn't sound like you have to worry about that.

Nah I met this girl about a year and a half ago when I stopped at her work. She noticed my gear and asked me 50 questions about bikes. She didn't meet me and suddenly decide she wanted a bike trust me! As far as getting used is concerned she'd be more than happy to get one used... do you know anybody that has the new body style that DOESN'T think it's worth as much or more than a new one? I don't know if you saw Moni's post but her's wasn't unusual. Every used '08 250 ad I've seen is for about the same if not more than the $4k otd she's paying now! I saw a Craig's list ad for $4500 last night!:lol: Hell some of the older ones aren't any better. Some people think a 2002 model is worth $3000, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it sell for about that new?:lol: According to NADA a 2008 Ninja 250 is worth about $2500...:lol: Hey more power to you if you can get someone to give you $4000.:idk:

[pauldun170]

TIGGER,
With all due respect...
Every time I skim through the thread titles I keep reading the thread title as
"Well My Girlfriend is taking it in the ASS"

Just thought I'd come clean...

(However, if there is any truth to the statement no one will be "coming" clean)

[Amber Lamps]

TIGGER,
With all due respect...
Every time I skim through the thread titles I keep reading the thread title as
"Well My Girlfriend is taking it in the ASS"

Just thought I'd come clean...

(However, if there is any truth to the statement no one will be "coming" clean)

Don't worry it washes off...:rockwoot:

[pauldun170]

Don't worry it washes off...:rockwoot:

:lol:

[Apoc]

I can see you on that pink 250 tigger...

[Amber Lamps]

I can see you on that pink 250 tigger...

Yea well, what you riding hop a long?:lol: Hey I have to admit I like that design for a girl's bike. It's interesting to say the least!

[racedoll]

Nah I met this girl about a year and a half ago when I stopped at her work. She noticed my gear and asked me 50 questions about bikes. She didn't meet me and suddenly decide she wanted a bike trust me! As far as getting used is concerned she'd be more than happy to get one used... do you know anybody that has the new body style that DOESN'T think it's worth as much or more than a new one? I don't know if you saw Moni's post but her's wasn't unusual. Every used '08 250 ad I've seen is for about the same if not more than the $4k otd she's paying now! I saw a Craig's list ad for $4500 last night!:lol: Hell some of the older ones aren't any better. Some people think a 2002 model is worth $3000, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it sell for about that new?:lol: According to NADA a 2008 Ninja 250 is worth about $2500...:lol: Hey more power to you if you can get someone to give you $4000.:idk:

I can relate. I grew up around bikes and come hell or high water I was learning to ride... Erik just happened to come into my life around that time and rode. He had two choices: help me or not. He chose to help, thankfully.

I meant used as in the older style, even though she doesn't really like it. But as I said it doesn't really matter since she has the scooter and pretty much knows what to expect on the street.

I on the other hand, only knew what it was like to ride on the back. Being in control of your own bike isn't for everyone (guy or girl) so rather than invest a lot of money in a bike, I bought a used one. That way I wasn't out too much if I didn't like it. Fortunately I liked it and ended up with my 600. I actually sold the 250 last year (4 years after I bought it) for the same price I paid.

[Amber Lamps]

I can relate. I grew up around bikes and come hell or high water I was learning to ride... Erik just happened to come into my life around that time and rode. He had two choices: help me or not. He chose to help, thankfully.

I meant used as in the older style, even though she doesn't really like it. But as I said it doesn't really matter since she has the scooter and pretty much knows what to expect on the street.

I on the other hand, only knew what it was like to ride on the back. Being in control of your own bike isn't for everyone (guy or girl) so rather than invest a lot of money in a bike, I bought a used one. That way I wasn't out too much if I didn't like it. Fortunately I liked it and ended up with my 600. I actually sold the 250 last year (4 years after I bought it) for the same price I paid.


Well the way people seem to think they hold their worth, if she doesn't like it she can probably sell it for MORE than she paid for it next year!!!

[Rangerscott]

I bought my 250 before I got my license. First time to ever be on a bike and I just took off and never looked back.

[Amber Lamps]

I bought my 250 before I got my license. First time to ever be on a bike and I just took off and never looked back.

Yea I got my first bike by shoveling a guy's sidewalk and mowing his lawn. An old Yamaha 250 2 stroke Enduro. It had sat by his shed for years in Michigan. I had some help but for the most part I taught myself how to ride. Man that was some fun!:rockwoot:

[Rangerscott]

Mine was from a guy that asked his girl to marry him without a ring. LOL I helped him get out of the dog house I'm sure.

[Dave]

jeez tiggs you'd think your post was titled "how riding drunk makes you corner faster" :lmao:

Don't worry it washes off...:rockwoot:

i'll vouch for that. :whatwhat:

I can relate. I grew up around bikes and come hell or high water I was learning to ride... Erik just happened to come into my life around that time and rode. He had two choices: help me or not. He chose to help, thankfully.

I meant used as in the older style, even though she doesn't really like it. But as I said it doesn't really matter since she has the scooter and pretty much knows what to expect on the street.

I on the other hand, only knew what it was like to ride on the back. Being in control of your own bike isn't for everyone (guy or girl) so rather than invest a lot of money in a bike, I bought a used one. That way I wasn't out too much if I didn't like it. Fortunately I liked it and ended up with my 600. I actually sold the 250 last year (4 years after I bought it) for the same price I paid.

hah you know i found myself behind a green RR the other day at work and thought about ya? kinda wierd considering weve never met. damn fake internet life!

Yea I got my first bike by shoveling a guy's sidewalk and mowing his lawn. An old Yamaha 250 2 stroke Enduro. It had sat by his shed for years in Michigan. I had some help but for the most part I taught myself how to ride. Man that was some fun!:rockwoot:

the hurricane came from craigslist. and i had a 15 minute primer on bike trannys on an ancient spanish trials bike

[MissHell]

Glad to hear she is taking MSF and you get getting her all geared up. :yes:

Good choice on the bike, my first bike was an EX250 (Kawai green! :nee:). I rode it for a year, loved that bike. It's a great starter bike. I did buy brand-new and for the record, I never dropped it. :wink:

[marko138]

Thanks for the attach. Pretty wild scheme...but hey...if she likes it good for her.

[Apoc]

Yea well, what you riding hop a long?:lol: Hey I have to admit I like that design for a girl's bike. It's interesting to say the least!



I'd rather look at my Harley than ride a pink Kawi. :p

Or any kawi for that matter.

[Amber Lamps]

I'd rather look at my Harley than ride a pink Kawi. :p

Or any kawi for that matter.

Oh Yea?....I'm glad you feel that way because that EXACTLY what you are gonna do motherfucker!!!!:lol: Well I don't like Kawasaki either but they make the best starter bike so there asshole!!!! If my girlfriend had her way the entire world would be pink and lt blue!:lol: So whatever "spot", "Chester Cheeta", "zinc boy". Why don't you tell everybody the truth, you were trying to chrome your pants to match your Harley and it all went terribly wrong!:lol: You know there are other ways to replace the zinc you are losing through masterbation, ever hear of Centrum?

[RACER X]

btw, just fukkin w/ ya to fuk w/ ya, and now look it's fri!

but good on her for going in the right direction.

:boobs:

[Particle Man]

Dude, you must have saved a puppy or something in a prior life because you are one lucky mother fucker.

[Amber Lamps]

Dude, you must have saved a puppy or something in a prior life because you are one lucky mother fucker.

Thanks! I think....:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Thanks for the attach. Pretty wild scheme...but hey...if she likes it good for her.

No problem, I think that she's getting the blue anyway... apparently, she's found one in Raleigh and just to make everyone happy, IT'S USED!:lol: Some guy bought it for his daughter and now she doesn't want it. Get this an '08 blue with under 1000 miles for....drum roll....$2800!!!! I talked to the guy last night for about a half an hour, seems legit! Apparently, he's the second owner and bought it for $3200. If she gets this I'll be amazed! Oh and for the record, her deposit is refundable.

[Dave]

Dude, you must have saved a puppy or something in a prior life because you are one lucky mother fucker.

ill agree with this on the condition that te it washes off comment was in relation to this one :whatwhat:

[Amber Lamps]

ill agree with this on the condition that te it washes off comment was in relation to this one :whatwhat:

Dude if you're not getting anal, you're just not presenting the proposition correctly.:lol: Besides, this generation of girls are freaks for the most part. When I grew up, I might have seen a girly mag or two and possibly two porns by 18. These girls have had sex in more ways by 21 than most of us have during an entire lifetime.

I hung out with a girl last Fall and we happened to hang out with her 15 year old sister one day. All this girl talked about was "tossing her boyfriend's salad" which is slang for giving him a rim job. I'm just glad that I don't have any daughters!!!:lol:

[HokieDNA01]

Every used '08 250 ad I've seen is for about the same if not more than the $4k otd she's paying now! I saw a Craig's list ad for $4500 last night!:lol: Hell some of the older ones aren't any better. Some people think a 2002 model is worth $3000, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it sell for about that new?:lol: According to NADA a 2008 Ninja 250 is worth about $2500...:lol: Hey more power to you if you can get someone to give you $4000.:idk:

Tig I forget exactly where you live but here is one for sale in Raleigh NC
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1213323952.html

Here are some in Charlotte NC
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1240236146.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1237615698.html

Boone NC

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1227494765.html

These are all asking price so they may come down even more.

[HokieDNA01]

Oh just saw your post about getting one for $2800. great price!

[Kaneman]

Damn man, $2,800 is a steal!
________
Lolli (http://www.girlcamfriend.com/cam/Lolli/)

[Amber Lamps]

Tig I forget exactly where you live but here is one for sale in Raleigh NC
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1213323952.html

Here are some in Charlotte NC
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1240236146.html

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1237615698.html

Boone NC

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/1227494765.html

These are all asking price so they may come down even more.

Thanks! If the one we have on the hook doesn't work, one of these might!!!

[RACER X]

Damn man, $2,800 is a steal!



yeah it is, local BB poster is selling hers fro $3500 w/ ~350 miles :wtfru:

anotehr for like $3400 w/ 3200mi, 2nd owner :wtfru:

[Amber Lamps]

Damn man, $2,800 is a steal!

Yea not bad! You have to remember that the '08 sold for $3,600 I believe and the blue book is $2,200-2,500. I understand that these bikes are kinda rare but yeesh!

[RACER X]

thats retaining its value........thats why the "i can't afford to buy 2 bikes" excuse for buying a 600SS is bunk. we sold our 250 for like $100 less then we paid w/ ~4k mi

and buying used is the way to go.

[marko138]

thats retaining its value........thats why the "i can't afford to buy 2 bikes" excuse for buying a 600SS is bunk. we sold our 250 for like $100 less then we paid w/ ~4k mi

and buying used is the way to go.
I hear that.

I sold my GSXR for 500 more than I paid for it...after 5 years of riding and one low side. Win for marko.

[RACER X]

I sold my GSXR for 500 more than I paid for it...after 5 years of riding and one low side. Win for marko.

so lets hear that story?

[Amber Lamps]

I sold my V-Max for more than I paid for it 5 years prior. Of course that's another "rare bike" situation. Plus I stole that bike from a kid that got it for a gift and was scared of it!

[marko138]

so lets hear that story?
Not much to it really. I got a good deal on it to begin with. Prior to me crashing it, it had never been down. I low sided at about 25 mph. Last year I listed it for 3500 and took 2500 for it. I was up front and totally honest about the bike. Didn't hide anything.

[RACER X]

I sold my V-Max for more than I paid for it 5 years prior. Of course that's another "rare bike" situation. Plus I stole that bike from a kid that got it for a gift and was scared of it!




sure there are special circumstance and deals, but commonly beg. bikes hold their value esp. after the first buyer. most other bikes depreciate like rocks.

[Particle Man]

sure there are special circumstance and deals, but commonly beg. bikes hold their value esp. after the first buyer. most other bikes depreciate like rocks.

really? I'm pretty sure the rocks in my yard are worth about the same as when I moved in :lol:

[RACER X]

I sold my GSXR for 500 more than I paid for it...after 5 years of riding and one low side. Win for marko.

Not much to it really. I got a good deal on it to begin with. Prior to me crashing it, it had never been down. I low sided at about 25 mph. Last year I listed it for 3500 and took 2500 for it. I was up front and totally honest about the bike. Didn't hide anything.

so you paid $2k for a mint GSXR600?

[Kaneman]

sure there are special circumstance and deals, but commonly beg. bikes hold their value esp. after the first buyer. most other bikes depreciate like rocks.

A lot of people appear to have special circumstances....

I sold my first Magna for more than I paid for it.
________
Lovely Wendie (http://www.lovelywendie99.com/)

[z06boy]

Yea I've heard that too! If my gf happens to accidentally put her foot down during the "8", I don't think that makes her unqualified to operate a motorcycle.

Me either.

I've been riding on and off for 20 years or so and never took the MSF.

For all I know I might have to put a foot down if I did the figure 8 :lol:...maybe not but I'm just sayin'... :lol

[marko138]

so you paid $2k for a mint GSXR600?
No I paid 2000 for a mint GSXR 750. A 1992...and it was pink.

[RACER X]

No I paid 2000 for a mint GSXR 750. A 1992...and it was pink.

pics lol

[marko138]

pics lol
Can't access them here at work. They've been posted here before. Maybe some of the old timers can help us out and post one.

[Rider]

Here you go.

http://www.twowheelforum.com/photopost/direct_data/544/bike_side_view.jpg

[RACER X]

thats a STEAL! even w/ pink and yellow.......:lol

[marko138]

Thanks Rider.


That bike and I had a love hate relationship. Some days I loved the colors, some days I hated it. All things considered it was a great bike. And super rare. Thats a factory color. I dont know what asshole would come up with a paint job like that...but it is.

[RACER X]

yeah i remember those, just didn't remember it had yellow wheels......color blind asians.......:wtfru:

[marko138]

yeah i remember those, just didn't remember it had yellow wheels......color blind asians.......:wtfru:
Oddly, some came with black wheels.

[Dave]

even though i gave you shit about it i always thought that was one of the sharpest stock gixxer schemes.

and tiggs, no worries my girl is barely 19. still havent found limits yet.

[marko138]

even though i gave you shit about it i always thought that was one of the sharpest stock gixxer schemes.

and tiggs, no worries my girl is barely 19. still havent found limits yet.
Thanks.

[racedoll]

hah you know i found myself behind a green RR the other day at work and thought about ya? kinda wierd considering weve never met. damn fake internet life!

I know what you mean. Maybe someday we will have the opportunity to meet.

No problem, I think that she's getting the blue anyway... apparently, she's found one in Raleigh and just to make everyone happy, IT'S USED!:lol: Some guy bought it for his daughter and now she doesn't want it. Get this an '08 blue with under 1000 miles for....drum roll....$2800!!!! I talked to the guy last night for about a half an hour, seems legit! Apparently, he's the second owner and bought it for $3200. If she gets this I'll be amazed! Oh and for the record, her deposit is refundable.

That is a great deal. I hope everything goes through. The other plus of getting a used bike is that she can have some money left over to start on the 600 fund or whatever else she may want.

[Kerry_129]

Wait - shouldn't you be talking her out of it since she'll just be bored with it in a thousand miles?!? :ps: redflip j/k!


Congrats to both of ya - good luck landing the deal & getting her started! :rockwoot:

One advantage of the new 250 (beyond looking waaaay better - hell, I'd consider rocking one if I had a long commute!) - frame slider selection. Not sayin' she'll necessarily need them, but hey - cheap insurance....

http://fatbikez.com/intuitive-kawasaki-ninja-250r-2008-2009-no-cut-frame-sliders.html

[Dave]

Wait - shouldn't you be talking her out of it since she'll just be bored with it in a thousand miles?!? :ps: redflip j/k!


Congrats to both of ya - good luck landing the deal & getting her started! :rockwoot:

One advantage of the new 250 (beyond looking waaaay better - hell, I'd consider rocking one if I had a long commute!) - frame slider selection. Not sayin' she'll necessarily need them, but hey - cheap insurance....

http://fatbikez.com/intuitive-kawasaki-ninja-250r-2008-2009-no-cut-frame-sliders.html

at that price when she does get bored she stands to make a profit

[Amber Lamps]

Wait - shouldn't you be talking her out of it since she'll just be bored with it in a thousand miles?!? :ps: redflip j/k!


Congrats to both of ya - good luck landing the deal & getting her started! :rockwoot:

One advantage of the new 250 (beyond looking waaaay better - hell, I'd consider rocking one if I had a long commute!) - frame slider selection. Not sayin' she'll necessarily need them, but hey - cheap insurance....

http://fatbikez.com/intuitive-kawasaki-ninja-250r-2008-2009-no-cut-frame-sliders.html

Yea ha,ha,ha but remember she will be the third owner of this bike and it's an '08... Gee I wonder what happened to the other two owners hmmm...? I wonder why you can find so many of this rare bike on Craig's List and almost everyone is trying to get just about retail for them? I'll take a WILD guess, it's because they got talked into a 250 and now less than a year later, in some cases a few months, they want something else and are stuck with the loans. Heck, there are several listings of people trying to get you to take their bike's without titles for less than they owe until they get it paid off. I know that some people buy them and are happy indefinitely but for the most part they are "learner bikes" pure and simple. You buy them knowing that at some point you're going to replace it with what you really want. As will she. Shit dude, she has a Mustang GT and her family has a Porsche that she drives all the time, she's not going to be satisfied with this bike for long.:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

at that price when she does get bored she stands to make a profit


Yep! We're going to pick it up and possibly bring it home right now. BTW if this falls through, I've also contacted one of the postings that Kathy sent me for a back up (thanks Kath) so we should come home with SOMETHING today!:rockwoot:

[Amber Lamps]

That is a great deal. I hope everything goes through. The other plus of getting a used bike is that she can have some money left over to start on the 600 fund or whatever else she may want.

Yep or have money left over to pay for the pink painted body panels....:lol:

[Dave]

Yep! We're going to pick it up and possibly bring it home right now. BTW if this falls through, I've also contacted one of the postings that Kathy sent me for a back up (thanks Kath) so we should come home with SOMETHING today!:rockwoot:

sweet! Good luck bro, def post pics. I found a v30 magna yesterday on cl for 200 but messaged the guy too late.

[HokieDNA01]

Can't wait to see it Tig! Good luck!