View Full Version : Salvage title due to broken plastics????
Rangerscott
06-25-2009, 11:01 PM
How in the hell does a bike get a salvage title from having the plastics replaced?
*edit*
Same person has an '08 aprilia sl750 with a salvage title because falling over. "Has a salvage title because it fell over on the right side but only has minor damage"
pauldun170
06-25-2009, 11:09 PM
How in the hell does a bike get a salvage title from having the plastics replaced?
*edit*
Same person has an '08 aprilia sl750 with a salvage title because falling over. "Has a salvage title because it fell over on the right side but only has minor damage"
"Has a salvage title because it fell over (and over...and over and over at 75 MPH) on the right side but only has minor damage"
Mrs. Colleen
06-25-2009, 11:10 PM
Ebay?
If the cost of repairing the bike is greater than what the insurance company is willing to pay they sell it for salvage. Then if you deem it worth it to buy the bike back from the insurance company it gets a salvage title.
The salvage title actually has nothing to do with the ability of the bike to be safely operated.
Mrs. Colleen
06-25-2009, 11:11 PM
If the cost of repairing the bike is greater than what the insurance company is willing to pay they sell it for salvage. Then if you deem it worth it to buy the bike back from the insurance company it gets a salvage title.
The salvage title actually has nothing to do with the ability of the bike to be safely operated.
My husband just said almost the exact same thing. :willy:
My husband just said almost the exact same thing. :willy:
Yeh, what I wrote was the dumbed down version
Rangerscott
06-25-2009, 11:24 PM
The first one was a gsx-r. Both look brand new. I just cant see how broken plastics could total out a bike.
BobTheBiker
06-25-2009, 11:28 PM
The first one was a gsx-r. Both look brand new. I just cant see how broken plastics could total out a bike.
price them out for a complete OEM set from the dealer, you'll see.
insurance co's use a value system where if the damage exceeds X% of the insured value of the vehicle, they total it. on a motorcycle, fairings are pricey as OEM parts.
If the cost of repairing the bike is greater than what the insurance company is willing to pay they sell it for salvage. Then if you deem it worth it to buy the bike back from the insurance company it gets a salvage title.
The salvage title actually has nothing to do with the ability of the bike to be safely operated.
I was going to say it would have to be just about all the plastics for it to get a salvage title for plastics only. there are some deals out there, just know what you are getting into before you do it.
mine was kicked over when it was still a year old, little over 2K retail damage parts and labor. that was just one complete side, upper and screen.
Rangerscott
06-25-2009, 11:29 PM
So is it a hassle to own something with a salvaged title? I know that depends per state.
So is it a hassle to own something with a salvaged title? I know that depends per state.
I bought an old FZR600 several years ago with a salvage title. I didn't have any problems getting a plate for it. don't know what the guy that got the salvage title had to do. that was in Missouri.
some people won't pay as much for a salvage title. I wouldn't either if it was frame or something major but if it actually was cosmetic damage. no problems.
Yeh very easily. A full set of plastics from a dealership over 1k, add in all the fasteners, a side case, gasket, clipon, mirror, windscreen, turnsignals, brake, add up all these small things and you can easily get close to the magical threshold that insurance companies determine is unworth it for a bike to be repaired.
It also depends on how it went down, if it was backed into by a car then pushed a few feet damage could be huge, a small drop could be just the plastics.
I couldnt tell how hard it is to have a salvage title, but in NJ it needs to be inspected after sale at a special inspection station down near Atlantic city to see if it is road worthy.
Rangerscott
06-25-2009, 11:46 PM
Does the bike stay "salvaged" or does it get wiped clean when/if you can get it registered?
Amber Lamps
06-25-2009, 11:51 PM
Does the bike stay "salvaged" or does it get wiped clean when/if you can get it registered?
My bike has a salvage title. The only way I could change that is by buying a frame with a clean title. BTW my bike was totalled because of broken plastic and a scratched fork.:rockwoot: To be honest, to buy a salvage bike with the thought of resale is foolish. I would only buy a salvage title bike if it was a smoking good deal, you've inspected it completely and you plan on keeping it to ride it until it dies!
Rangerscott
06-25-2009, 11:53 PM
My bike has a salvage title. The only way I could change that is by buying a frame with a clean title. BTW my bike was totalled because of broken plastic and a scratched fork.:rockwoot:
So does it have to go through a special inspection every year or something? Thats what I dont understand. If its street legal why does it keep a salvage title?
Amber Lamps
06-25-2009, 11:57 PM
So does it have to go through a special inspection every year or something? Thats what I dont understand. If its street legal why does it keep a salvage title?
It had to be inspected to be registered. I guess that it's to keep someone from selling a bike that was totalled to some chump for regular used retail.:idk: I think that it's just to force a seller to disclose that the vehicle was previously salvaged.
So does it have to go through a special inspection every year or something? Thats what I dont understand. If its street legal why does it keep a salvage title?
supposedly you can run them through Arkansas and get a clean title.
Yeh very easily. A full set of plastics from a dealership over 1k, add in all the fasteners, a side case, gasket, clipon, mirror, windscreen, turnsignals, brake, add up all these small things and you can easily get close to the magical threshold that insurance companies determine is unworth it for a bike to be repaired.
It also depends on how it went down, if it was backed into by a car then pushed a few feet damage could be huge, a small drop could be just the plastics.
I couldnt tell how hard it is to have a salvage title, but in NJ it needs to be inspected after sale at a special inspection station down near Atlantic city to see if it is road worthy.
most upper fairings are at least $500 (talking OEM retail) and if you are looking at like the newer 1K bikes with those fucking interlocking smaller pieces you are still looking at just as much or more by the time you get all the smaller parts. I was surprised when I looked up the first one.
Dragonpaco
06-26-2009, 12:16 AM
around here you cant register a salvage title, you can get a reconstructed title and then register. it's a pain in the ass
Gas Man
06-26-2009, 07:04 AM
Yeh very easily. A full set of plastics from a dealership over 1k, add in all the fasteners, a side case, gasket, clipon, mirror, windscreen, turnsignals, brake, add up all these small things and you can easily get close to the magical threshold that insurance companies determine is unworth it for a bike to be repaired.
It also depends on how it went down, if it was backed into by a car then pushed a few feet damage could be huge, a small drop could be just the plastics.
I couldnt tell how hard it is to have a salvage title, but in NJ it needs to be inspected after sale at a special inspection station down near Atlantic city to see if it is road worthy.
:lol: Can you ride "salvage bike" down to inspection? :D
Yeh but you better load it onto a trailer before you drive through the gates of the DMV
Bluestreak
06-26-2009, 08:26 AM
around here you cant register a salvage title, you can get a reconstructed title and then register. it's a pain in the ass
Very true. Pennsylvania is such a pain the ass state when it comes to putting a vehicle back on the road. You have to document everything then hope and pray it goes through.
Totalled a bike in PA. Bought it back from the insurance company and sold it to a buddy in VA. They got a clean title in the mail. :shrug:
Rider
06-26-2009, 09:13 AM
My gsxr750 was totaled. Not just a salvage title, but a scrap title, meaning it could never be on the road again. Full set of plastics, full exhaust, new mirrors, front rim, rear sets ans passenger pegs. That's all and the total came to $9100 in damage.
See the damage here: http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=3113&highlight=happened
marko138
06-26-2009, 09:21 AM
Very true. Pennsylvania is such a pain the ass state when it comes to putting a vehicle back on the road. You have to document everything then hope and pray it goes through.
Totalled a bike in PA. Bought it back from the insurance company and sold it to a buddy in VA. They got a clean title in the mail. :shrug:
My brother bought a salvaged GSXR about a month ago. He thought it would be super easy to get it re-titled. I advised against it. I should call him and see how that process is going.
the chi
06-26-2009, 09:38 AM
Supposedly you can also wash a title through several states up north. However, if the bike is registered on say "carfax' for example, it can be found out if your state checks. We bought a used RC51 in ATL, brought it down to Florida, when we tried to register it, they checked carfax, it had been totalled, and retitled through a series of states to hide it, and the dealer never checked and sold us a lemon at regular retail. Needless to say, they took it back after hearing from my attorney.
Dead on with the salvaging due to costs to repair. If its too expensive, and most insurance companies dont have a good system for bikes, they'll total a perfectly good bike based on some plastic damage.
around here you cant register a salvage title, you can get a reconstructed title and then register. it's a pain in the ass
Florida wasn't going to give me the chance to buy back my bike when I crashed down there. luckily my insurance was through MO. while I was in school so MO. laws covered me. they said FL. just comes and picks them up.
Gas Man
06-26-2009, 10:27 AM
Yeh but you better load it onto a trailer before you drive through the gates of the DMV
Really...why?
I rode my bike to my MSF coarse so I could get my endorsement. Even though some did truck or trailer in theirs. I even rode it to the DMV to put in for my endorsement.
marko138
06-26-2009, 10:29 AM
Really...why?
I rode my bike to my MSF coarse so I could get my endorsement. Even though some did truck or trailer in theirs. I even rode it to the DMV to put in for my endorsement.
It's been my experience that the DMV doesn't give a shit. Don't get pulled over by the fuzz and you'll be fine.
Really...why?
I rode my bike to my MSF coarse so I could get my endorsement. Even though some did truck or trailer in theirs. I even rode it to the DMV to put in for my endorsement.
did you already have the permit?
Gas Man
06-26-2009, 10:34 AM
did you already have the permit?
Nope... nothing! But even a permit don't let you ride by yourself.
marko138
06-26-2009, 10:37 AM
Nope... nothing! But even a permit don't let you ride by yourself.
In PA all you can do is ride by yourself during daylight with a permit.
Nope... nothing! But even a permit don't let you ride by yourself.
does in MO., just can't ride at night.
Gas Man
06-26-2009, 10:46 AM
Not in michigan... permit means, no passenger, no nite riding, and have to be in view of a endorsed rider.
Rangerscott
06-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Well both bikes are 07/08's so I just cant see how they would be totaled from plastics with the value of them being higher than repairing just plastics.
Can the owner ask for the bike to be totaled?
the chi
06-26-2009, 11:03 AM
Well both bikes are 07/08's so I just cant see how they would be totaled from plastics with the value of them being higher than repairing just plastics.
Can the owner ask for the bike to be totaled?
Depends.
I had a car get wrecked once, it was almost a total loss, but they were going to fix it. I talked directly with the mechanic, explained that no matter how great a job they did, I didnt want a car that was totally rebuilt. He found pieces here and there that need replaced until it was declared a loss and totalled.
Librarian
06-26-2009, 03:26 PM
Same person has an '08 aprilia sl750 with a salvage title....
Lemme guess.... This guy in the Seattle area? Dealership up on Capitol Hill? The same guy who has been trying to unload two Aprilia's for months now?
Buyer beware! :td:
Rangerscott
06-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Im in texas
Really...why?
I rode my bike to my MSF coarse so I could get my endorsement. Even though some did truck or trailer in theirs. I even rode it to the DMV to put in for my endorsement.
NJ is a crappy state.
marko138
06-26-2009, 04:51 PM
NJ is a crappy state.
Truer words have NEVER been spoken.
Rangerscott
06-26-2009, 05:30 PM
True dat. True dat.
Gas Man
06-26-2009, 05:48 PM
NJ is a crappy state.
stinky too!
Adeptus_Minor
06-26-2009, 06:22 PM
I was so sure this was going to be another Michael Jackson thread. :whistle:
ZUKIMON
06-27-2009, 12:22 AM
I know that in NC, for a cage, if the extent of damage is equal to, or over 75% of the worth (according to the DMV) the vehicle is considered salvaged. You can either take a setlement and keep the vehicle or let them take it and they will give you a different number for a settlement.
My '94 Prism got rear ended in a parking lot and caused about....nothing really....$1500 in damage. (nice having a body shop at the dealership where you work at :D) They considered the vehicle a total loss and gave me $1300 and I got to keep the ride. I had just bought it in Nov. of last year and gave $1800 for it. I fixed all the damage myself and came out WAAAAAY ahead of the game and have a salvaged title to show for it. I could give a damn!
I know that in NC, for a cage, if the extent of damage is equal to, or over 75% of the worth (according to the DMV) the vehicle is considered salvaged. You can either take a setlement and keep the vehicle or let them take it and they will give you a different number for a settlement.
My '94 Prism got rear ended in a parking lot and caused about....nothing really....$1500 in damage. (nice having a body shop at the dealership where you work at :D) They considered the vehicle a total loss and gave me $1300 and I got to keep the ride. I had just bought it in Nov. of last year and gave $1800 for it. I fixed all the damage myself and came out WAAAAAY ahead of the game and have a salvaged title to show for it. I could give a damn!
I was thinking it was 75 or 80% for totaling a vehicle.
I think Tina has made money off of her truck through getting hit. the last one totaled it but didn't disable it so she bought it back, we didn't have to fix it (the truck is like 30 years old anyway) because the damage wasn't bad enough.
marko138
06-30-2009, 04:49 PM
stinky too!
Oh man, it sure is.
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