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RACER X
06-26-2009, 08:54 AM
who was the bigger icon?
Elvis, Michael trashed his image more than Elvis.
marko138
06-26-2009, 08:58 AM
Elvis. Period.
LeeNetworX
06-26-2009, 09:07 AM
Are you kidding? You know how many Elvis impersonators there are, just in Vegas and Memphis alone?
Elvis >>>>>>> MJ
um how many of us were alive during the elvis period? seems like kind of an unfair comparo since the one was already a legend at the start of many of our lives
marko138
06-26-2009, 09:18 AM
Sirius Channel 13 = Elvis Radio.
Krabill
06-26-2009, 09:18 AM
Elvis > well . . . just about anybody.
um how many of us were alive during the elvis period? seems like kind of an unfair comparo since the one was already a legend at the start of many of our lives
not really, elvis was bigger dead than michael jackson was in at his most popular.
Rider
06-26-2009, 09:28 AM
Elvis for sure. He may not have sold as many total records but I assure you he had more hit albums.
I remember the day Elvis died. 8/16/1976. It was my moms birthday and we went to Universal Studios for the day. We heard on the radio he died when we were on our way home. My mom was a huge fan and was devastated.
Fleck750
06-26-2009, 09:29 AM
Chose Elvis, but can't stand his music. Will listen to Jackson any day.
CrazyKell
06-26-2009, 09:29 AM
not really, elvis was bigger dead than michael jackson was in at his most popular.
By this logic we will not know the true "icon-ness" of MJ yet then. :idk:
Mr Lefty
06-26-2009, 09:40 AM
are you talking in the US? Elvis...
world wide? MJ...
Elvis was alive before the world got so small... and There aren't too many people with a world following like MJ... even with the way he fucked his image up
Mr Lefty
06-26-2009, 09:43 AM
not really, elvis was bigger dead than michael jackson was in at his most popular.
I don't think that's true... Michael in the Early 90's was a god overseas...
but like I said... we talking in the US or world wide
Homeslice
06-26-2009, 09:49 AM
this is a male-dominated forum, so of course people are going to vote for the most masculine, or for a rock star vs. a pop star
IMO MJ accomplished twice as much as Elvis did, regardless of what I might think of his personal shortcomings
Rider
06-26-2009, 09:56 AM
this is a male-dominated forum, so of course people are going to vote for the most masculine, or for a rock star vs. a pop star
IMO MJ accomplished twice as much as Elvis did, regardless of what I might think of his personal shortcomings
He only had 2 or 3 hit records the rest were bombs.
Fleck750
06-26-2009, 10:00 AM
All Elvis did was shake his hips and snarl.
Michael taught us to moon walk. :D
marko138
06-26-2009, 10:00 AM
I can tell you this, when perusing a karaoke book at the beach last week, Elvis had 6 fucking pages of songs listed.
EpyonXero
06-26-2009, 10:07 AM
MJ. I dont give a damn about Elvis.
z06boy
06-26-2009, 10:11 AM
Both are huge around the world but....
Elvis >>>>>>Michael
Michael is the "King of Pop"
Elvis is "THE King". :idk:
Rider
06-26-2009, 10:14 AM
Both are huge around the world but....
Elvis >>>>>>Michael
Michael is the "King of Pop"
Elvis is "THE King". :idk:
Being from NC I'm surprised you didn't say Richard Petty was THE King. :lol:
Particle Man
06-26-2009, 10:17 AM
Fuck - I thought the thread title said "Elvis vs AMJ" - I came in here looking for some throw-down fight between Jesus and Elvis.
I want my money back.
unknownroad
06-26-2009, 10:47 AM
Fuck - I thought the thread title said "Elvis vs AMJ" - I came in here looking for some throw-down fight between Jesus and Elvis.
I want my money back.
Seconded.
Seriously, had Jackson had any hit songs in the past decade? He was an "era hit", like the Bee Gees.
z06boy
06-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Being from NC I'm surprised you didn't say Richard Petty was THE King. :lol:
:lol: Oh yeah...forgot about him. Well I guess he is in nascar world. I do live right in the heart of it too. Not my favorite type of racing but living here and knowing people in the business it's hard not to keep up with it I must admit.
I haven't seen too many "Richard impersonators" so Elvis >>> Richard too !! :lol: :lol:
askmrjesus
06-26-2009, 11:28 AM
Fuck 'em both, I'm going camping.
JC
marko138
06-26-2009, 11:31 AM
Fuck 'em both, I'm going camping.
JC
Don't forget your iPod loaded with Elvis tunes.
By this logic we will not know the true "icon-ness" of MJ yet then. :idk:
exactly! his legend hasnt yet had the chance to fully cultivate. anyway i rememer seeing people whip up butterknifes and start mock fighting when they hear beat it come on and folks always try to do the thriller dance. not gonna see that stuff with elvis
Homeslice
06-26-2009, 01:14 PM
He only had 2 or 3 hit records the rest were bombs.
Did Elvis start performing at 5 years old?
exactly! his legend hasnt yet had the chance to fully cultivate. anyway i rememer seeing people whip up butterknifes and start mock fighting when they hear beat it come on and folks always try to do the thriller dance. not gonna see that stuff with elvis
Uhhhh... People do the elvis hip stuff all the time when his music comes on.
MJ is no elvis, the only thing in music bigger than the king is the beatles...
Aside from stuff he did in the late 70's, early 80's, MJ hasnt done anything too spectacular. After that, he sold records on name alone..
tached1000rr
06-26-2009, 01:35 PM
My 2 cents is that MJ lived during the information and technology ERA, I see him as a World ICON, foreign countries were able to follow his every move through mass worldwide media.
I think MJ is known in more foreign countries.
tommymac
06-26-2009, 01:58 PM
I don't think that's true... Michael in the Early 90's was a god overseas...
but like I said... we talking in the US or world wide
So was david Hasselhoff so what does that tell ya about overseas :lol:
Tom
marko138
06-26-2009, 02:05 PM
Who said Elvis wasn't huge overseas?
http://glennh.tripod.com/photos/jp_delvis_02.jpg
Particle Man
06-26-2009, 02:05 PM
Did Elvis start performing at 5 years old?
no but he didn't start changing colors later in life either
z06boy
06-26-2009, 02:11 PM
So was david Hasselhoff so what does that tell ya about overseas :lol:
Tom
:lol: :lol: !!!!
When I was in Japan they sure knew who Elvis was and tried to look like him with the hairstyles. :lol:
Yes they knew who MJ was too but Japanese Elvis's cracked me up !!
I didn't take these pics.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/12/66%20Japanese%20Elvis%20Convention.jpg
http://www.jimadsonphotography.com/gallery/gal/Kyoto/japanese-elvis1.jpg
http://garywolff.com/subdir/photos/jpeg/aaron.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3182/2400155961_f269756c78.jpg?v=0
Homeslice
06-26-2009, 04:19 PM
no but he didn't start changing colors later in life either
Which wasn't his fault if it really was a disease.
fnfalman
06-26-2009, 04:29 PM
Michael the Weirdo was only the king of pop, while Elvis the Pelvis was THE KING. Enough said.
During their day, children were stopped from seeing both.
Elvis because he swiveled his hips like a black boy, and mj because he swiveled his hips into black boys..
Particle Man
06-26-2009, 05:07 PM
During their day, children were stopped from seeing both.
Elvis because he swiveled his hips like a black boy, and mj because he swiveled his hips into black boys..
quote worthy :lol:
Tmall
06-26-2009, 05:21 PM
I hear he would have made it if he hadn't asked to be taken to a children's hospital.. :(
defector
06-26-2009, 08:47 PM
:hss:
My dad has the same birthday as Elvis
I have the same birthday as Jacko
Weird.
racedoll
06-26-2009, 10:03 PM
By this logic we will not know the true "icon-ness" of MJ yet then. :idk:
exactly! his legend hasnt yet had the chance to fully cultivate. anyway i rememer seeing people whip up butterknifes and start mock fighting when they hear beat it come on and folks always try to do the thriller dance. not gonna see that stuff with elvis
This is what I was thinking. I don't think we've seen the full deal of MJ now that he is gone too.
i think his death is the peak, and besides a few decent songs, he'll be exactly like anna nicole smith. When the circus is done, so is his icon status.
Mr Lefty
06-26-2009, 11:04 PM
i think his death is the peak, and besides a few decent songs, he'll be exactly like anna nicole smith. When the circus is done, so is his icon status.
yeah but Anna Nicole Smith was always a no tallent piece of shit... she just posed nude for playboy and gained a following of chubby chasers...
Jacko won't fade like that... he won't be an Elvis.... but wont be forgotten for a while (for better or worse)
EpyonXero
06-27-2009, 12:51 PM
i think his death is the peak, and besides a few decent songs, he'll be exactly like anna nicole smith. When the circus is done, so is his icon status.
No way. Anna Nichole Smith was famous for huge juggs and then because of the circus she created, thats all.
If anything, Elvis will fade out with the baby boomers.
If anything, Elvis will fade out with the baby boomers.
I couldn't disagree more. Musically speaking Elvis' music crossed more genres than MJ's ever could. MJ crossed pop and rock in some ways, but Elvis crossed rock, pop, blues, country, americana, folk, lounge, etc. Elvis music has sustained popularity across generations, long after he passed. MJ's music, while being part of the soundtrack of my youth from the Jackson 5 on, faded in popularity even while he was alive.
Also, Elvis' personal issues didn't include being a pedophile or stabbing a close friend in the back, and a friend who is an international super star, at that. Yes, Elvis got fat and was a drugged out mess. MJ continually made himself the butt of jokes and while he put out that he was a recluse of sorts, he also shined the spotlight on himself through his remarkably stupid and harmful choices which he put on display for the world to see.
Yes, Elvis got fat and was a drugged out mess. .
I agree with everything you say, but wanted to add that Jacko was a drugged out mess too... A recluse, who we will likely find out in 6 weeks that he also died of an overdose (ok, we already know that, but its not proven yet)
If anything, Elvis will fade out with the baby boomers.
Cant see it, if anything, his music will still be played regularly long after were gone. He's up there with the likes of the beatles. Stars that will shine long after their bodies have burned out. Aside from a hanful of songs, MJ has nothing worth remembering. Thriller, Beat it, bad, billie jean, and maybe black and white? Ask anyone their favourite Jacko songs, and thats what youll get. And then only if they grew up in the 80's like most of us did. He was an Era artist, and nothing more. While those songs were some of the best of the time, and still fantastic today, they wont give him the type of stardom others have. Expecially with his shady past.
101lifts2
06-27-2009, 06:02 PM
Fuck - I thought the thread title said "Elvis vs AMJ" - I came in here looking for some throw-down fight between Jesus and Elvis.
I want my money back.
LOL....yeah but there is only 1 king...Jesus
I think Michael Jackson touched more lives than Elvis. And a majority of those lives where between the ages of 10 and 14.
Flexin
06-27-2009, 07:44 PM
MJ will never be forgotten.
There is a chance that Elvis will lose a bit with the baby boomers just like MJ will when we all kick the bucket. But there are many many singers, actors/actresses and athletes that are still talked about today long after they have passed.
Jack Johnson (March 31, 1878 – June 10, 1946) A boxer that is still talked about 63 years after he has passed.
Sammy Davis, Jr. (December 8, 1925 – May 16, 1990)
Red Skelton (July 18, 1913 – September 17, 1997)
Lucille Ball (August 6, 1911 – April 26, 1989)
Cary Grant (January 18, 1904 – November 29, 1986)
Charlie Chaplin (16 April 1889 – 25 December 1977)
Sam Langford (March 4, 1883 - January 12, 1956) Nova Scotian boxer that I'm told is related to my step father.
James
Flexin
06-27-2009, 07:45 PM
BTW how many times has MJ been convicted of touching a child?
James
how many times did he buy his way out of molesting a child?
How many times did OJ get convicted of murdering someone?
Flexin
06-27-2009, 08:33 PM
how many times did he buy his way out of molesting a child?
How many times did OJ get convicted of murdering someone?
Lets be real Apoc. Lets say you have a child. That child tells you that someone touched them. Lets say that rather then to break this persons neck you charge them and take them to court. Lets say that this person is a multi millionaire and that their pay is depended on image. Knowing this you can get in their wallet or purse real easy.
My question is this...what amount of money will be enough to let them off the hook? Or to put it another way...what is your childs going rate?
I will tell you this. If someone touches my children and I go the court route to deal with it...NO AMOUNT OF MONEY WILL GET ME TO DROP THE CASE.
I would not fault someone who sued for money as well. But to drop the case and let them go??? Something is not right there.
Them taking the money means..
1. They were scaming and only wanted money.
2. It did happen a but enough money to buy a 12 bedroom house and a Benz or two is enough to say "well he didn't go all the way with little Billy"
If its number two the parents are no better then the person who did it and that means they should be in jail with that person. Why should they be in jail? They took the payoff and let someone go free to do it again.
Yes MJ was different. Did he touch the kids. I don't know because I wasn't there but if I was asked I would say I don't think he did. He never should have had the kids in his room but I'm not sure he did those things he was accused of.
As far as OJ goes, the court said he was not guilty. I found some things that didn't seem right one both sides of that case.
James
Lets be real Apoc. Lets say you have a child. That child tells you that someone touched them. Lets say that rather then to break this persons neck you charge them and take them to court. Lets say that this person is a multi millionaire and that their pay is depended on image. Knowing this you can get in their wallet or purse real easy.
My question is this...what amount of money will be enough to let them off the hook? Or to put it another way...what is your childs going rate?
For you or I? No amount of money is enough. He would be dead if it was my child.
For many out there, you'd be suprised. And that child testified against him at his second trial, maintaining that it did happen. You need to realize not everyone loves their kids as much as you do. Its a sad statement, but very true.
I have three cousins who were molested by their step dad. He was caught red handed. He got off, you know why? The judge said the testimony of children that young wasnt reliable... Even though they could explain how they had to make 'milk come from his pecker', and how he would finger their sister. Dont go thinking child molestors have no chance in court and if they arent found guilty they must be innocent. I know, I was at the trial.
Having children doesnt make you a parent.
As far as OJ? 100%, he did it, and thats that.
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