Snake kills girl in fla

[tommymac]

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Like how they say it attacked her, it prolly saw her and figured its time ot eat. Killed her and was in the process of eating her when it was found.

Tom

[Particle Man]

poor little girl :( :( :( :( :(

One killed an alligator and then exploded when it tried to eat it.

d'oh

[Tmall]

poor little girl :( :( :( :( :(



d'oh

http://hamous.org/images/alligator-python.jpg

[pauldun170]

That is not a happy story at all...but it is a Florida story.

[Particle Man]

http://hamous.org/images/alligator-python.jpg

jesus h christ

[shmike]

RIP little girl. :(

[the chi]

Horrific. My next thought tho is, if they had a snake in the house large enough to get a toddler, why wasnt it like triply secured? Tommy, if you had a toddler, wouldnt you do this?

[tommymac]

Horrific. My next thought tho is, if they had a snake in the house large enough to get a toddler, why wasnt it like triply secured? Tommy, if you had a toddler, wouldnt you do this?

From the sounds of the story the snake escaped its enclosure. Not sure how well built the cage was but the larger pythons are VERY strong and can muscle their way out of some cages. My favorite snakes are the reticulated pythons which are just as big and a tad more agressive and owned a13 footer when I was younger so I know what thye can do and are capable of. If i had a large constrictor I wouldnt be too concerned with a small child but as the child got older they may go to see the snake or open/get into the cage as opposed to them getting out. I am prety cautious even now with my carpet pythons since the larger one could take down one of my cats given the opportunity.

Tom

[Rider]

Hey Tommy, can you train a snake to be a pet though? Domesticate it like a dog? Some dogs have the capability to kill people for food, but you never hear of family pets killing for food like this python did. If they attack it's not because they were hungry.

[Trip]

my carpet pythons since the larger one could take down one of my cats given the opportunity.

Tom

This sounds like a good idea, do this and put it on youtube.

no pets > dogs > snakes > cats

[tommymac]

Hey Tommy, can you train a snake to be a pet though? Domesticate it like a dog? Some dogs have the capability to kill people for food, but you never hear of family pets killing for food like this python did. If they attack it's not for food.

yes and no. Certain species of snakes are more or less agressive by nature. Burmeese pythons as a whole have a very good temperament esp for alarge snake, whereas the other giant constrictors are rather nasty as a whle. Also it depends on how it was raised. If its handled a lot and is around people from a hatchling they will be prety good.

Dogs I think through breeding have lost some of that wildness so are much less likley to do something like that. Snakes are much simpler creatures in that they kill and eat and not much else, they have some of the smallest brains of all the vertabrates. You can blunt the feeding response if they only eat prekilled food though, yet my largest carpet python is about 6 yrs old has never eaten a live animal but still has a strong feeding response.

theres not a lot of detail in the story but when a snake is threatened it will usualy strike and let go. If it strikes and wraps around you its because it wants to eat you or feels realy threatened and I cant see a sleeping 2 yr old as agreat threat to a 12 ft python, so I think the snalke was hungry saw a potential meal and went for it.

Tom

[tommymac]

This sounds like a good idea, do this and put it on youtube.

no pets > dogs > snakes > cats

Uhhh no. However I did have a reticulated python that killed and ate a yorkie terrier many moons ago. Told my sisters friend(the owner fo the dog) that it must have run out the back door, then helped them go look for it.

tom

[pauldun170]

The girls parents are emotionally fucked for the rest of their lives and the one that found her should be on watch.

When they saw it...they shat bricks.



In related news, PETA has released a statement condemning the stabbing of the creature and 10 protestors gathered outside the home of the deceased toddler with signs stating "free the snake".

In more related news, a local man whipped out his penis and pissed on the PETA protestors. when questioned by the police he replied "they all had sign that told me to do it and with all the screaming and all"

In related related news
"I want my baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back...'

[tommymac]

The girls parents are emotionally fucked for the rest of their lives and the one that found her should be on watch.

When they saw it...they shat bricks.



In related news, PETA has released a statement condemning the stabbing of the creature and 10 protestors gathered outside the home of the deceased toddler with signs stating "free the snake".

In more related news, a local man whipped out his penis and pissed on the PETA protestors. when questioned by the police he replied "they all had sign that told me to do it and with all the screaming and all"

In related related news
"I want my baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back...'


I think PETA only protests for the cute cuddly animals they dont care about the evil snakes and other reptiles.

Tom

[Trip]

Uhhh no. However I did have a reticulated python that killed and ate a yorkie terrier many moons ago. Told my sisters friend(the owner fo the dog) that it must have run out the back door, then helped them go look for it.

tom

BOO!

Awesome!

[tommymac]

BOO!

Awesome!

I know I know I am one of those annoying people who like cats :lol:

I think there are some youtube vids of snakes eating pets though.

Tom

[Amber Lamps]

Well....I think Tommy kind of covered it. Snakes cannot be "trained", you can "blunt" their natural tendencies through time and repetition, like my Betta swimming to the top of the bowl when I approach to be fed. I personally am surprised that the snake a) took the trouble to break out of it's enclosure and b) that it hunted down and attacked the little girl in her bed. I'm guessing that the animal was VERY hungry. Snakes don't get "bored" or "curious" and only leave their immediate area to feed or breed, I believe.

Quite frankly, a two year old little girl would be kinda large for a 12' python meal to regard as prey IMHO. Don't you agree Tom? I had a Boa (almost 20') for years and I understand that pythons are much thicker per foot but that seems unusual to me.:idk:

[tommymac]

Well....I think Tommy kind of covered it. Snakes cannot be "trained", you can "blunt" their natural tendencies through time and repetition, like my Betta swimming to the top of the bowl when I approach to be fed. I personally am surprised that the snake a) took the trouble to break out of it's enclosure and b) that it hunted down and attacked the little girl in her bed. I'm guessing that the animal was VERY hungry. Snakes don't get "bored" or "curious" and only leave their immediate area to feed or breed, I believe.

Quite frankly, a two year old little girl would be kinda large for a 12' python meal to regard as prey IMHO. Don't you agree Tom? I had a Boa (almost 20') for years and I understand that pythons are much thicker per foot but that seems unusual to me.:idk:


its a bit on the large side for a snake that size but I think it may be possible to swallow the kid, burms and retics have larger heads for their body size compared to boas and other pythons because they will eat some ridiculously huge meals, they are also known for biting off more than they chew so to speak in that they will kill something they may not be able to swallow or do swallow it and it comes back up a day or so later. Snakes as a whole are primarily ambush hunters and usualy will wait for food to come by, but will go out hunting as well. They are also notorious escape artists to boot so its important ot have a secure enclosure and one strong enough to house them.

Tom

[Curb]

I had a Boa (almost 20') for years and I understand that pythons are much thicker per foot but that seems unusual to me.:idk:
dude, that would be a world record by a long shot! that is more than double the size of a normal female...an average size Boa is between 7-9' long

[askmrjesus]

In related related news
"I want my baby back baby back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back...'

Hell.

It's where you're going as soon as I get done building this hand-basket.

What are you, about 5'9"?

JC

[Amber Lamps]

its a bit on the large side for a snake that size but I think it may be possible to swallow the kid, burms and retics have larger heads for their body size compared to boas and other pythons because they will eat some ridiculously huge meals, they are also known for biting off more than they chew so to speak in that they will kill something they may not be able to swallow or do swallow it and it comes back up a day or so later. Snakes as a whole are primarily ambush hunters and usualy will wait for food to come by, but will go out hunting as well. They are also notorious escape artists to boot so its important ot have a secure enclosure and one strong enough to house them.

Tom

Oh for sure I agree, I just always noticed that my snake was perfectly happy to sit in the exact same spot INDEFINITELY until it was hungry. In fact, I've heard other snake owners advise new snake owners to keep their snakes on the hungry side so they'll be more active. It's my opinion that the snake purposely hunted the little girl down. I obviously don't believe that the animal was bored and broke out of it's cage to go exploring and just happened to come upon the little girl.:lol:

[Rider]

Oh for sure I agree, I just always noticed that my snake was perfectly happy to sit in the exact same spot INDEFINITELY until it was hungry. In fact, I've heard other snake owners advise new snake owners to keep their snakes on the hungry side so they'll be more active. It's my opinion that the snake purposely hunted the little girl down. I obviously don't believe that the animal was bored and broke out of it's cage to go exploring and just happened to come upon the little girl.:lol:

Why wait until she is 2? I assume the snake is much older than 2 and the owners had the snake before the girl was born. Maybe it had to wait this long to gain the size and strength to break out of the enclosure. Like Tommy said, maybe the snake saw a moment of opportunity and it wasn't planned when it escaped the enclosure. We'll never know why but I assure you many snake owners with young kids will be letting their legless friends loose in the woods.

[pauldun170]

Hell.

It's where you're going as soon as I get done building this hand-basket.

What are you, about 5'9"?

JC

I am in the morning...
By nightfall, probably a smidge less

[askmrjesus]

I am in the morning...
By nightfall, probably a smidge less

You know, they make special shoes for that problem.

JC

[HRCNICK11]

I had 2 kings in 2 different cages. The cages were the same in every way except the the snake in the cage. One would excape all the time no matter what I did, I had large metal clips and would set 20 pound weights on the top and this little snake would still get out. By little I mean pencil width and less than 2 feet long.

The snake that never got out was about a inch wide and about 5 foot long, much larger. When I got them they were both the same size the pet store gave me the excape artist free cause they kept losing it.

Some snake just like to explore other will just hang out on a warm spot.

A snake large enough to hurt some one should atleast be kept in a locked (snake proof) room when the owner is not around. At least then if they get out they can not leave the room.

[Amber Lamps]

Why wait until she is 2? I assume the snake is much older than 2 and the owners had the snake before the girl was born. Maybe it had to wait this long to gain the size and strength to break out of the enclosure. Like Tommy said, maybe the snake saw a moment of opportunity and it wasn't planned when it escaped the enclosure. We'll never know why but I assure you many snake owners with young kids will be letting their legless friends loose in the woods.

Oh I don't think the snake "planned" it at all. :lol: Personally, I think these people "forgot" to feed it or were purposely under-feeding it. Maybe, they left the cage open or forgot to secure it. Hell, I've known people who had aquariums with a window screen sitting on top as "security".:lol: The python gets out and picks up the scent, hell for all we know, it visited every room in the house and decided that the other "prey" was too large before it got to the little girl.

[tommymac]

Why wait until she is 2? I assume the snake is much older than 2 and the owners had the snake before the girl was born. Maybe it had to wait this long to gain the size and strength to break out of the enclosure. Like Tommy said, maybe the snake saw a moment of opportunity and it wasn't planned when it escaped the enclosure. We'll never know why but I assure you many snake owners with young kids will be letting their legless friends loose in the woods.

You would be surprised how fast they can grow. burms and retics are 24-36 inches at birth, and with good feeding can hit 10 feet long in their first year.Burms may not be quite as fast but still get up there quickly.

[Amber Lamps]

I had 2 kings in 2 different cages. The cages were the same in every way except the the snake in the cage. One would excape all the time no matter what I did, I had large metal clips and would set 20 pound weights on the top and this little snake would still get out. By little I mean pencil width and less than 2 feet long.

The snake that never got out was about a inch wide and about 5 foot long, much larger. When I got them they were both the same size the pet store gave me the excape artist free cause they kept losing it.

Some snake just like to explore other will just hang out on a warm spot.

A snake large enough to hurt some one should atleast be kept in a locked (snake proof) room when the owner is not around. At least then if they get out they can not leave the room.

1,000,000% agree! They probably had it in the living room or something.:idk: I'm sorry Tommy but this story is exactly the same as the stories of people who keep tigers, leopards, etc and get mauled by them. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them... Quite frankly, if it weren't a little girl, I'd have zero sympathy.

[Rider]

This thread reminds me of the episode of Venom ER I was watching a while back. A motherfucker in FL got bit by his "pet" Black Mamba and lived. Why the hell would anyone keep one of these things in your house?

[Particle Man]

Why the hell would anyone keep one of these things in your house?

so they could end up on TV.

[Amber Lamps]

This thread reminds me of the episode of Venom ER I was watching a while back. A motherfucker in FL got bit by his "pet" Black Mamba and lived. Why the hell would anyone keep one of these things in your house?

I don't know! I owned a snake and I'm willing to admit that it was more for the "cool" factor than anything.:lol: "Hey baby, I have a Black Mamba, you want to come to my place and see it?" :lol: IMHO they are not "fun" pets, every time you put your hand in that cage, you have to be ready for a strike. They are fascinating for sure both they don't do a lot. They are about 1-2 steps above fish IMHO.

so they could end up on TV.

:lol:

[pauldun170]

You know, they make special shoes for that problem.

JC

I now feel like singing a song about the yellow bus,
but I won't because I'm at work.

[tommymac]

This thread reminds me of the episode of Venom ER I was watching a while back. A motherfucker in FL got bit by his "pet" Black Mamba and lived. Why the hell would anyone keep one of these things in your house?

I have handled and dealt with venemous snakes in the past, but the mambas truly scare me because they are so fast and unpredictable.:tremble:

I believe theres on ER in fla that has the antivenom for every venemous snake in the US. I think jacobi hospital up here in the bronx has a prety good collection too since they are right near the bronx zoo and need antivenom of all the venemous species they keep there.

Tom

I don't know! I owned a snake and I'm willing to admit that it was more for the "cool" factor than anything.:lol: "Hey baby, I have a Black Mamba, you want to come to my place and see it?" :lol: IMHO they are not "fun" pets, every time you put your hand in that cage, you have to be ready for a strike. They are fascinating for sure both they don't do a lot. They are about 1-2 steps above fish IMHO.



:lol:

less maintenance than fish though. :dthumb:

Tom

[the chi]

I have handled and dealt with venemous snakes in the past, but the mambas truly scare me because they are so fast and unpredictable.:tremble:

I believe theres on ER in fla that has the antivenom for every venemous snake in the US. I think jacobi hospital up here in the bronx has a prety good collection too since they are right near the bronx zoo and need antivenom of all the venemous species they keep there.

Tom


I have heard the same thing, but I also saw on Venom ER once where they are seeing interbreeding of species, with different venoms intermingling and they are having a hard time nailing it down. For some reason people freak when bit and dont grab the snak, imagine that?! :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

i have handled and dealt with venemous snakes in the past, but the mambas truly scare me because they are so fast and unpredictable.:tremble:

I believe theres on er in fla that has the antivenom for every venemous snake in the us. I think jacobi hospital up here in the bronx has a prety good collection too since they are right near the bronx zoo and need antivenom of all the venemous species they keep there.

Tom



less maintenance than fish though. :dthumb:

Tom


qft!!!

[EpyonXero]

I know I know I am one of those annoying people who like cats :lol:

I think there are some youtube vids of snakes eating pets though.

Tom

Centipede vs Mouse ftw

[CrazyKell]

Seriously....a snake that huge as a house pet? :wtf:

WHy in god's name would you ever want that thing around? Even if you love snakes, how could you keep it confined like that and still say that you like it? I don't get it. :scratch:

[tommymac]

Seriously....a snake that huge as a house pet? :wtf:

WHy in god's name would you ever want that thing around? Even if you love snakes, how could you keep it confined like that and still say that you like it? I don't get it. :scratch:

I had one that size and basically lived in my closet that I customized for her. Snakes dont realy need a lot of room since they usualy just lay and wait for prey to come on by.

Tom

[wildchild]

I had one that size and basically lived in my closet that I customized for her. Snakes dont realy need a lot of room since they usualy just lay and wait for prey to come on by.

Tom


would have sucked if you forgot that was her closet and went to find a pair of pants to wear. :tremble:

i don't even know what to say about this story. seems as though someone wasn't very responsible with their child's life. people always seem to think that because they like and can handle animals their children automatically can as well. i know at two she wasn't "handling" the snake but it just seems they should have taken more precaution.

finally agree with above. why the hell have something that size, that can eat your kids. oh hell no!!!

[Amber Lamps]

would have sucked if you forgot that was her closet and went to find a pair of pants to wear. :tremble:

i don't even know what to say about this story. seems as though someone wasn't very responsible with their child's life. people always seem to think that because they like and can handle animals their children automatically can as well. i know at two she wasn't "handling" the snake but it just seems they should have taken more precaution.

finally agree with above. why the hell have something that size, that can eat your kids. oh hell no!!!

Like I said it's like the people who keep tigers, etc...why?

[Tmall]

Like I said it's like the people who keep tigers, etc...why?

Why have a 3000 square foot house? Why have a 190Hp bike? Why have a hot young gf? They're all more trouble than they're worth, and they can all ruin your life. So, why??

[shmike]

Why have a 3000 square foot house? Why have a 190Hp bike? Why have a hot young gf? They're all more trouble than they're worth, and they can all ruin your life. So, why??

Because they want to.

However, there are still risks. You shouldn't have that house if you make $30k a year. You shouldn't have that bike if you don't know how to ride. You shouldn't have that girl if your name is Tigger.

But if you end up bankrupt because of that big house, paralyzed because of that fast bike or broke because your GF took the house and the bike don't expect my sympathy.

Poor kid didn't have a chance though.

[Amber Lamps]

Why have a 3000 square foot house? Why have a 190Hp bike? Why have a hot young gf? They're all more trouble than they're worth, and they can all ruin your life. So, why??

You're right, I guess that's why you don't have any of those things, huh? Smart move!:rockwoot:

Oh and I don't think there's any danger of my GSXR breaking into my house and eating my kids...:lol:

[wildchild]

[QUOTE=Tmall;234958]Why have a hot young gf? QUOTE]


wha?!!! you're kidding right? :boobs:

LOL

[unknownroad]

This thread reminds me of the episode of Venom ER I was watching a while back. A motherfucker in FL got bit by his "pet" Black Mamba and lived. Why the hell would anyone keep one of these things in your house?

Florida :idk: It does something to people, srsly.