Bye-Bye G8...HELLO Caprice!!

[pauldun170]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/11/lutz-pontiac-g8-to-continue-as-chevy-caprice-in-u-s-z28-likel/

[101lifts2]

Looks decent...

[Adeptus_Minor]

Nice sleeper, I guess.
It lacks the 'rawr!' value of the G8 GT.

[Homeslice]

Styling = boring, but that's been true for all Chevy sedans for the last 40 years

[karl_1052]

Nice sleeper, I guess.
It lacks the 'rawr!' value of the G8 GT.

although the lumina looks pretty hot!

[Avatard]

With a little luck, the SS variant will pump a little adrenaline into the rather anemic styling...but any excuse to bring in a rear-drive V-8 Holden gets my "thumbs up". Go Bob.

[BobTheBiker]

total fail. if they revive the caprice, at LEAST make it look like the old school model, not this new aborted fetus of a fetus. this further proves what I've known for awhile. GM is shit.

[SteveP]

total fail. if they revive the caprice, at LEAST make it look like the old school model, not this new aborted fetus of a fetus. this further proves what I've known for awhile. GM is shit.

Aren't you an angry little man. :lol

The G8 may be a little bland in the exterior styling dept, but the interior, chasis, and engine more then make up for it. To call a 6.0L sedan an aborted fetus is a bit far fetched.

[Homeslice]

But who is really going to be motivated to buy it if it doesn't look good? Performance isn't enough, IMO.

See this is the problem with Chevy. They produce boring-looking stuff.

They'd have been a lot better off if they just took the existing G8 and rebadged it, without any styling changes. The G8 looks alot better than this turd.

[karl_1052]

But who is really going to be motivated to buy it if it doesn't look good? Performance isn't enough, IMO.

See this is the problem with Chevy. They produce boring-looking stuff.

They'd have been a lot better off if they just took the existing G8 and rebadged it, without any styling changes. The G8 looks alot better than this turd.

I think the lumina looks as good as the G8
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/12/2008chevyluminass02.jpg

[Avatard]

I think the lumina looks as good as the G8
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/12/2008chevyluminass02.jpg

That a front or rear-drive?

[Homeslice]

That's a lot better, although still kinda bland.

[SteveP]

That a front or rear-drive?


Rear.

And I think the Chevy version looks as good as the Pontiac as well.

*I'm actually looking at a G8 GT with the wife right now*

[EpyonXero]

Those Chevys all looks the same to me. Enthusiasts might be interested but what about those cars is going to attract the average buyer?

[Dave]

i bet they sell every single one...in kuwait :lmao:


























































not even kidding. i saw sofucking many caprices and malibus down there it wasnt even funny. they even had two rearwheelers we never got

[SteveP]

Those Chevys all looks the same to me. Enthusiasts might be interested but what about those cars is going to attract the average buyer?

I think I can answer this because I'm kinda in this class right now. My wife and I decided we want a full size car, rear wheel drive, with a V8 and four doors. So what are our options?

Caddy CTS ( only the CTS V with an 8cyl / too expensive )
Dodge Charger/300
Ford Crown vic (not an option / hate it)
BMW 5 series (too expensive)
Pontiac G8 GT

I am not an enthusiast and this car will be for my wife. After driving our 2.0L mazda PR5 for the last 6 years we want some more engine. The fuel economy for V6 engines is literally 1mpg better then their v8 counterparts for most brands with highway mileage occasionally better due to cylinder management systems.

I'm with ya though. We may be the minority as everyone is looking for the most fuel efficient cars out there. My wife's commute is 10 miles a day, literally nothing. The primary function of this car will be the family ride. So why not have some fun?

[Homeslice]

not even kidding. i saw sofucking many caprices and malibus down there it wasnt even funny. they even had two rearwheelers we never got
I am hoping you're talking about classics from the 60's, otherwise I don't see why they would buy them.

[Dave]

no eighties and up. literally every other car you see on the highway or more is some model of caprice

[Homeslice]

no eighties and up. literally every other car you see on the highway or more is some model of caprice
So are they "str8 thuggin it" with 26's and lift kits?

Typical for the Middle East.......They bash us yet imitate our culture at the same time.

[Dave]

So are they "str8 thuggin it" with 26's and lift kits?

Typical for the Middle East.......They bash us yet imitate our culture at the same time.

no bone stock.

[Homeslice]

no bone stock.

Uh, what's the appeal then? Cheap ex-government vehicles?

[101lifts2]

Styling = boring, but that's been true for all Chevy sedans for the last 40 years

What about the Corsica?

[101lifts2]

total fail. if they revive the caprice, at LEAST make it look like the old school model, not this new aborted fetus of a fetus. this further proves what I've known for awhile. GM is shit.


Yeah I guess the Camry, Altima and Accord are just night and day better.

Look, looks are subjective. The car looks clean, not "gotta have clean", but clean non the less.

[101lifts2]

I think I can answer this because I'm kinda in this class right now. My wife and I decided we want a full size car, rear wheel drive, with a V8 and four doors. So what are our options?

Caddy CTS ( only the CTS V with an 8cyl / too expensive )
Dodge Charger/300
Ford Crown vic (not an option / hate it)
BMW 5 series (too expensive)
Pontiac G8 GT

I am not an enthusiast and this car will be for my wife. After driving our 2.0L mazda PR5 for the last 6 years we want some more engine. The fuel economy for V6 engines is literally 1mpg better then their v8 counterparts for most brands with highway mileage occasionally better due to cylinder management systems.

I'm with ya though. We may be the minority as everyone is looking for the most fuel efficient cars out there. My wife's commute is 10 miles a day, literally nothing. The primary function of this car will be the family ride. So why not have some fun?

Get a used 2008 or newer Caddy STS V-8 or even V-6. These cars are tight as hell.

Before I bought my 2008 STS, I test drove an Impala SS, Pontiac GT, G6, G8 (V-6 tho) and the Caddy was just night and day difference in build quality and ride. It is most refined car I've ever driven and the hands down the best powertrain combo (and I've driven a shitload of BMWs and Benz').

[Homeslice]

What about the Corsica?

I don't remember anything special about those. :shrug: To me they were basically just a downsized Lumina. With the most hideous looking steering wheel known to man:

[Dave]

Uh, what's the appeal then? Cheap ex-government vehicles?

hell if i know, my assumption would be that owning an american car is a sign of status

[pauldun170]

What about the Corsica?


Corsica\Baretta were ok when they came out.
Friend had a (maybe 2.2? I think it was a 90')4banger Corsica. Thing took a ton of abuse and neglect but it still started and made the hour 3 trip from Albany to Long Island 2-3 times a month. Thought it was a nice looking series at the time

The thing about that car was the front seats...dear lord of the sock drawer did they suck.

The Barreta GTU and GTZ's were decent.

[Homeslice]

The thing about that car was the front seats...dear lord of the sock drawer did they suck.
.

yeah that's another thing I remember.......They had mouse-fur fabric, mushy, flat, no support at all

[BobTheBiker]

I fail to comprehend how the hell, everyone can manage to keep selling cars tht all LOOK alike for the most part. honestly, the only real differences looks wise are minor things on most cars anymore. I miss the stylin of old where few looked the same, and you could tell cars apart from each other.

[pauldun170]

I think manufacturers have out out some interesting looking cars over the past 20 years.

[z06boy]

I like the G8...not sure about the Caprice but ...maybe.

*edit* Just looked at the Lumina and it does look decent...for a four door as did the G8.

[unknownroad]

I think the lumina looks as good as the G8


That looks miles better that the proposed caprice.

i can't believe they wont' be doing a Z28 Camaro. WTF is a Camaro without a V8? :bash:

[Dave]

That looks miles better that the proposed caprice.

i can't believe they wont' be doing a Z28 Camaro. WTF is a Camaro without a V8? :bash:

the same thing it is now, an over priced over weight false memory aimed at old people. Just like the other two

[Avatard]

Yeah I guess the Camry, Altima and Accord are just night and day better.

I would have to assume only to those who don't know how to drive.

Make mine rear drive please. It's not that I haven't learned to make a front drive car hustle around corners...but it's not pretty, and it's no fun.

[karl_1052]

That looks miles better that the proposed caprice.

i can't believe they wont' be doing a Z28 Camaro. WTF is a Camaro without a V8? :bash:

The Camaro SS still has the V8, the Z28 package was a higher performance version of the v8.

Either way, the new camaro is ugly as feck.

[101lifts2]

The new Camaro ugly? Are UUUUUUUU smokin crack?

Thing is tight as hell.

[Homeslice]

Better looking than the Challenger, for sure.

The Challenger looks like a bananna, with the way its rear end kicks up, and how the part closest to the ground is recessed into the body.

[karl_1052]

The new Camaro ugly? Are UUUUUUUU smokin crack?

Thing is tight as hell.

It looks like GM gave a room full of five year olds sugar, and crystal meth, then made them watch Power Rangers for 24 hours straight. Then they showed them a pic of a nice 69 camaro, and asked how they could make it look better. they took a meth break first of course.

[pauldun170]

Camaro SS + 6spd manual = busted output shaft.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/13/breaking-early-camaro-ss-manual-transmission-failures-reported/


Eric Bryant :
July 13th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

Hmm. I’d like to know if the Camaro uses the same 27-spline output shaft version of the trans that was used in 4th-gen F-bodies, or the 32-spline version that was utilized in the SSR. If it’s the former, then yeah, they’re going to break like twigs (I have personal experience with this in a 4000+ lb car with 400+ HP). If it’s the 32-spline version, then I would perhaps think that this is an issue with the quality of the output shaft and not a design flaw, as that should hold up to a lot more power than a stock SS can put down.

EDIT: Just saw a pic of a snapped output shaft. Looks like a 28-spline configuration (if I counted correctly while looking at an out-of-focus photo on a 10.1″ screen). That seems a bit inadequate for a car that weighs nearly 4000 lbs and puts nearly 400 HP to the rear wheels. But the surface of the broken part looked glassy-smooth, and didn’t seem at all like a properly-manufactured part that was overloaded. If I had to guess, this is the result of a material or manufacturing problem.

[z06boy]

Output shafts are/were a weak link in the C5 Z06. I'm not sure about the C6 Z06.

When I had the 3:90's installed I had hardened outbut shafts installed as well.

I never broke one but did it "just in case". :idk:

[pauldun170]

never mind
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/16/from-the-horses-mouth-lutz-says-pontiac-g8-wont-spawn-chevrol/

[OneSickPsycho]

Lumina, Caprice, whatever... they look like shit.

[unknownroad]

Oh well, as long as we can still buy overweight, underpowered, shit-ugly crossovers with a variety of different nameplates... :bash:

[Homeslice]

Oh well, as long as we can still buy overweight, underpowered, shit-ugly crossovers with a variety of different nameplates... :bash:

Or cars that look almost the same as crossovers because their windowsills are 6 feet off the ground.

[smileyman]

I just cannot wait until they bring back the Beretta!!!! Shazam!:lol:wtfru:

[Homeslice]

Citation X11 ftw!

[Reyna1]

Camaro SS + 6spd manual = busted output shaft.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/13/breaking-early-camaro-ss-manual-transmission-failures-reported/

The problem is a manufacturing issue with a batch of Tremec 6060 transmissions, which are not made by GM. I'd still rather have an auto. I'm tired of shifting the manual in my car...

BTW the new Caprice is a no go as of last week (from what I heard).

[Dave]

chevettes baby!

[Homeslice]

chevettes baby!

wack, compared to the cowl induction hood and lip spolier of the X11

now THIS is the pimp shit right here:


.

[karl_1052]

wack, compared to the cowl induction hood and lip spolier of the X11

now THIS is the pimp shit right here:


.

Don't forget the sweet 14" alloys.

[Homeslice]

Hell, 14" was considered performance back then. So were 70-profile tires.

Tell you what though, if this was 1982 and I was forced to buy that or the Camaro, I'd pick the former.

[pauldun170]

Hell, 14" was considered performance back then. So were 70-profile tires.

Tell you what though, if this was 1982 and I was forced to buy that or the Camaro, I'd pick the former.

2.8V6 and the 4spd and you end up with a semi respectable (for the day) little..

ah shit the brakes just went out


never mind

[101lifts2]

It looks like GM gave a room full of five year olds sugar, and crystal meth, then made them watch Power Rangers for 24 hours straight. Then they showed them a pic of a nice 69 camaro, and asked how they could make it look better. they took a meth break first of course.

Sorry Karl, but you are one of the only ones that said the Camaro looks like shit. To each his own I guess.

[karl_1052]

2.8V6 and the 4spd and you end up with a semi respectable (for the day) little..

ah shit the brakes just went out


never mind

Hell man, that car was the predecessor to the Z24, and we know how popular that car was.

The X-11 rocked(even though, it was a huge pile of crap)