View Full Version : Pit Bulls are so yesterday.........
RACER X
07-16-2009, 08:07 AM
i had seen this pic a while back, alot of ? as to whether real or not........
they're real
http://www.michaelstevenson.com/contemporary/exhibitions/hugo/nigeria_index2.htm#text
shmike
07-16-2009, 09:04 AM
I guess African and African-American blacks aren't so different afterall.
:scared:
z06boy
07-16-2009, 09:13 AM
Yep seen them before as well as this one. I used to own a few Pits but a leashed hyena or baboon does seem pretty crazy. :lol:
http://gentscaninesociety.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/hyena06.jpg
Rider
07-16-2009, 09:17 AM
Why is the hyena not eating the monkey?
pauldun170
07-16-2009, 09:17 AM
I guess African and African-American blacks aren't so different afterall.
:scared:
..........
In Abuja we found them living on the periphery of the city in a shantytown - a group of men, a little girl, three hyenas, four monkeys and a few rock pythons. It turned out that they were a group of itinerant minstrels, performers who used the animals to entertain crowds and sell traditional medicines. The animal handlers were all related to each other and were practising a tradition passed down from generation to generation. I spent eight days travelling with them.
The spectacle caused by this group walking down busy market streets was overwhelming. I tried photographing this but failed, perhaps because I wasn't interested in their performances. I realised that what I found fascinating was the hybridisation of the urban and the wild, and the paradoxical relationship that the handlers have with their animals - sometimes doting and affectionate, sometimes brutal and cruel. I started looking for situations where these contrasting elements became apparent. I decided to concentrate on portraits. I would go for a walk with one of the performers, often just in the city streets, and, if opportunity presented itself, take a photograph. We travelled around from city to city, often chartering public mini-buses.
I agreed to travel with the animal wranglers to Kanu in the northern part of the country. One of them set out to negotiate a fare with a taxi driver; everyone else, including myself and the hyenas, monkeys and rock pythons, hid in the bushes. When their companion signalled that he had agreed on a fare, the motley troupe of humans and animals leapt out from behind the bushes and jumped into the vehicle. The taxi driver was completely horrified. I sat upfront with a monkey and the driver. He drove like an absolute maniac. At one stage the monkey was terrified by his driving. It grabbed hold of my leg and stared into my eyes. I could see its fear.
Two years later I decided to go back to Nigeria. The project felt unresolved and I was ready to engage with the group again. I look back at the notebooks I had kept while with them. The words 'dominance', 'codependence' and 'submission' kept appearing. These pictures depict much more than an exotic group of travelling performers in West Africa. The motifs that linger are the fraught relationships we have with ourselves, with animals and with nature.
The second trip was very different. By this stage there was a stronger personal relationship between myself and the group. We had remained in contact and they were keen to be photographed again. The images from this journey are less formal and more intimate.
The first series of pictures had caused varying reactions from people - inquisitiveness, disbelief and repulsion. People were fascinated by them, just as I had been by that first cellphone photograph. A director of a large security company in the USA contacted me, asking how to get in touch with the 'hyena group'. He saw marketing potential: surely these men must use some type of herb to protect themselves against hyenas, baboons, dogs and snakes? He thought that security guards, soldiers and his own pocket could benefit from this medicine.
Many animal-rights groups also contacted me, wanting to intervene (however, the keepers have permits from the Nigerian government). When I asked Nigerians, "How do you feel about the way they treat animals?", the question confused people. Their responses always involved issues of economic survival. Seldom did anyone express strong concern for the well-being of the creatures. Europeans invariably only ask about the welfare of the animals but this question misses the point. Instead, perhaps, we could ask why these performers need to catch wild animals to make a living. Or why they are economically marginalised. Or why Nigeria, the world's sixth largest exporter of oil, is in such a state of disarray.
shmike
07-16-2009, 09:27 AM
blah, blah, blahThanks, Paul.
I wasn't sure what that whole hyperlink thing was for anyway.
Thanks, Paul.
I wasn't sure what that whole hyperlink thing was for anyway.
Taint.
pauldun170
07-16-2009, 09:34 AM
Thanks, Paul.
I wasn't sure what that whole hyperlink thing was for anyway.
Taint.
TAINT
:tremble:
shmike
07-16-2009, 09:35 AM
:lol:
z06boy
07-16-2009, 09:38 AM
TAINT
:tremble:
It's what's for dinner.
Adeptus_Minor
07-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Well, if you absolutely have to have the toughest, scariest dog on the block, hyenas will do it for you.
Personally, you couldn't pay me to own one... :panic:
Rider
07-16-2009, 03:29 PM
Well, if you absolutely have to have the toughest, scariest dog on the block, hyenas will do it for you.
Personally, you couldn't pay me to own one... :panic:
Actually they are related to the big cats, not dogs. You'd have the biggest baddest cat on your block. :lol:
Adeptus_Minor
07-16-2009, 03:36 PM
Actually they are related to the big cats, not dogs. You'd have the biggest baddest cat on your block. :lol:
Yeah, and lions are closer to dogs... I know.. but hyenas look doggy enough. :nee:
HurricaneHeather
07-16-2009, 03:39 PM
I once saw a dude carrying a monkey around like a purse. The monkey's tail was somehow affixed to his head and made a nice loop to stick your arm through and rest on your shoulder. :lol:
The monkey was dead. And I was in Africa. Not that weird really.
I once saw a dude carrying a monkey around like a purse. The monkey's tail was somehow affixed to his head and made a nice loop to stick your arm through and rest on your shoulder. :lol:
The monkey was dead. And I was in Africa. Not that weird really.
MONKEY PURSE!!!!!
Sorry just had the urge to yell that out.
the chi
07-16-2009, 04:02 PM
I once saw a dude carrying a monkey around like a purse. The monkey's tail was somehow affixed to his head and made a nice loop to stick your arm through and rest on your shoulder. :lol:
The monkey was dead. And I was in Africa. Not that weird really.
I had a bag like that as a kid. A panda bear too, but they were stuffed animals, not real. *shudder*
HurricaneHeather
07-16-2009, 04:13 PM
MONKEY PURSE!!!!!
Sorry just had the urge to yell that out.
And when we saw that about 20 white people yelled that out too. :lmao:
Adeptus_Minor
07-16-2009, 07:57 PM
And when we saw that about 20 white people yelled that out too. :lmao:
"What they didn't know is that 'monkey purse' sounds just like something highly derogatory of one's mother in Swahili... which might explain the sudden appearance of many automatic weapons over the next few seconds..."
Smittie61984
07-16-2009, 09:36 PM
ain't no laws gainst heyena fightin, yo!
Rangerscott
07-17-2009, 12:19 AM
Why is the hyena not eating the monkey?
Hyenas are scavengers.
They'll see how cool it is when their monkey rips their dick off one day.
Particle Man
07-17-2009, 09:05 AM
Hyenas are scavengers.
They'll see how cool it is when their monkey rips their dick off one day.
ouch :lol:
HurricaneHeather
07-17-2009, 09:40 AM
"What they didn't know is that 'monkey purse' sounds just like something highly derogatory of one's mother in Swahili... which might explain the sudden appearance of many automatic weapons over the next few seconds..."
:lmao:
Dumb white kids. :rolleyes:
z06boy
07-17-2009, 09:43 AM
Hyenas are scavengers.
They'll see how cool it is when their monkey rips their dick off one day.
No kidding...the chimpanzee stories have monkies off of my list of "must haves" :lol:
wildchild
07-17-2009, 12:43 PM
Hyenas are scavengers.
They'll see how cool it is when their monkey rips their dick off one day.
experience? Something you want to share with the rest of us? :lol
karl_1052
07-17-2009, 01:08 PM
experience? Something you want to share with the rest of us? :lol
http://www.janegoodall.ca/chimps-issues-pets.php
Aggression: Aggression is a natural aspect of chimpanzee behaviour and it is not uncommon for chimps to bite each other in the wild. Even the most loving chimp may act aggressively towards owners. Chimp owners have lost fingers and suffered severe facial damage.
I watched a show on show chimps used in TVs and movies, and the professional trainers can only keep them for up to 15 of their 80 year life span, after that, they become wild, and can kill people.
HokieDNA01
07-17-2009, 05:41 PM
I would put money on that baboon in a fight with that hyena.
Adeptus_Minor
07-17-2009, 06:03 PM
I would put money on that baboon in a fight with that hyena.
Nah, baboons mainly only annoy weasels.
http://www.cartoon-secrets.com/Photos/I-Am-Weasel-cartoon.jpg
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