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No Worries
07-18-2009, 03:01 PM
After 58K and 30 years on the original chain, I decided to put on a new one. Here's a photo of the original. It's 630 chain on my 79 GS1000. One of the first bikes with O-ring chain. Back then, they were worried what chain lube would do to the O-rings, so I used 80 weight gear lube. Notice the 130 tire. That was a wide tire back then.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5927/suzukioriginalchain.jpg
Yeah, that's a Works Performance shock. I also wanted to change the sprockets. Problem: How do you hold the new sprocket when you have to tighten the nut to 70 lb/ft. I used my clutch tool to hold the sprocket. The clutch tool is a vice grip with tangs for holding the edge of clutch plates while tightening the bolts.
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3300/suzukiclutchtool.jpg
That was the first time in 30 years that my sprocket cover has been off, so don't mind the grease. But you can see how the tangs are holding the sprocket teeth.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5404/suzukinewchain.jpg
Here's the new DID O-ring chain and new rear sprocket. Good as new and ready for another 30 years. Notice the master link. Now that the chain doesn't make any noise, I can hear all the other noises that the bike makes.
BobTheBiker
07-18-2009, 03:21 PM
sweet lookin, but wheres that old CBR1000 you used to have?
No Worries
07-18-2009, 06:41 PM
sweet lookin, but wheres that old CBR1000 you used to have?
I took off the cylinder head and put new exhaust valves in and lapped all the valves. Then I got a CBR1000F engine with only 18K miles on it. I've just been too busy with life to do anything with the Honda.
No Worries
07-18-2009, 07:09 PM
By the way, it was my first time using a master link. I had used my chain breaker before to press on a rivet link on my Honda. One problem with the master link is the O-rings are too fat and sassy to push the side plate down over the pins to slide the locking clip into the groove. I used a pair of needle-nose vice grips to squeeze the side plates together enough to expose the groove, and then slide the locking clip into position.
How does it work? last month the bike felt like it was surging. When I put it on the centerstand and spun the wheel, it would slow down and stop by the same couple links each time. I took it out today and there's no surging, and it feels like I got an extra 10 HP.
BobTheBiker
07-18-2009, 08:00 PM
I usually know its time to get new chain/sprockets by a similar feeling, or a vibration from the left peg.
karl_1052
07-18-2009, 10:34 PM
By the way, it was my first time using a master link. I had used my chain breaker before to press on a rivet link on my Honda. One problem with the master link is the O-rings are too fat and sassy to push the side plate down over the pins to slide the locking clip into the groove. I used a pair of needle-nose vice grips to squeeze the side plates together enough to expose the groove, and then slide the locking clip into position.
How does it work? last month the bike felt like it was surging. When I put it on the centerstand and spun the wheel, it would slow down and stop by the same couple links each time. I took it out today and there's no surging, and it feels like I got an extra 10 HP.
http://www.motorcycle.com//products/rk-530lfo-chain-and-vortex-sprockets-3511.html
shows what a chain and sprockets can do for you.
Fleck750
07-20-2009, 12:08 AM
When I put it on the centerstand and spun the wheel, it would slow down and stop by the same couple links each time. I took it out today and there's no surging, and it feels like I got an extra 10 HP.
Did the same to mine this week. Feel like I have a brand new bike. No more sloppy throttle, just feels tighter and I feel much more in control. Went down one tooth, so torque is my friend again. :D
askmrjesus
07-21-2009, 09:59 AM
Notice the master link.
Just a suggestion, if you're going to run a clip-type master link, a little RTV sealant smeared over the clip, (I use the black stuff) goes a long way towards keeping them from flying off at inopportune moments.
Clean it well first with some rubbing alcohol, let the RTV sit overnight, and re-lube.
JC
HRCNICK11
07-26-2009, 09:37 PM
I had a clip come off my F2 and the chain took out my water pump and destroyed both engine cases.
Buy a $60 chain press and $5 master it cost me a month of riding and $1500 to fix my bike and I had 2 friends fix it.
Before you say I did something wrong I had the manager of the service department double check it he is now a suzuki rep.
If I could find one for my CRF150r I would replace the clip in a second all the sportbikes in my garage have rivet style.
TYEster
07-26-2009, 10:02 PM
Problem: How do you hold the new sprocket when you have to tighten the nut to 70 lb/ft. I used my clutch tool to hold the sprocket. The clutch tool is a vice grip with tangs for holding the edge of clutch plates while tightening the bolts.
Couldn't you just have left it in gear? Or would it damage the transmission?
Amber Lamps
07-27-2009, 01:54 PM
Just a suggestion, if you're going to run a clip-type master link, a little RTV sealant smeared over the clip, (I use the black stuff) goes a long way towards keeping them from flying off at inopportune moments.
Clean it well first with some rubbing alcohol, let the RTV sit overnight, and re-lube.
JC
QFT! I won't use clip on mater links for this reason. I've seen too many fly off! Btw AMJ aren't you supposed to press the plate into place on a clip master link? UKR mentioned that he just "held" it tight with vise grips to get the clip on... I did a guy's chain who showed up with a clip style. I pressed it together and then just popped the clip on with silicone. Still don't like it...:idk:
Amber Lamps
07-27-2009, 01:57 PM
Couldn't you just have left it in gear? Or would it damage the transmission?
I've done it that way with a guy sitting on the bike to hold it in place... in my experience, an impact wrench works just fine for this job but I may be taking a risk and his way is the best/safest.:idk:
askmrjesus
07-29-2009, 12:19 AM
QFT! I won't use clip on mater links for this reason. I've seen too many fly off! Btw AMJ aren't you supposed to press the plate into place on a clip master link? UKR mentioned that he just "held" it tight with vise grips to get the clip on... I did a guy's chain who showed up with a clip style. I pressed it together and then just popped the clip on with silicone. Still don't like it...:idk:
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how you get the clip on, as long as it locks into the detents on the pins. A press makes it easier to not bugger the clip up (bad), but if you're careful, vise grips will work ok-ish.
If you want to go whole hog, you can safety wire the clip in place, and then RTV it (SOP in some vintage race orgs, and a huge PITA).
JC
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