Oooh baby....you are sexy!

[CrazyKell]

I don't often get that tingly feeling for new bikes. I love mine too much.

But dayum....this bike is HAWT. A friend is looking at picking one up.

:drool:

[MikeSP1]

Ooooooooooooooo, that is pretty. I'd do it... er, ride it.

[shmike]

racerboy on here picked one up a few weeks ago.

I still haven't seen it yet, bastard.

I think white and blue is the best color combo possible.

[Dave]

shes def pretty but i still think i liked the old SE better. Black and gold was to die for

[Looni2ns]

Yessiree, I do like that color combination. Sweet bike, too.

[Speedracer42]

That is a really good looking bike. And with a full system sound so unique and bad-ass

[Yamerhaw]

I like it..

[karl_1052]

And here I thought you posted your PM to me in the forum.:D


That bike is pretty sweet!

[Digifox]

Oh lordy!
That is sexy!

Triumph=Style

[Avatard]

That am purdie.

[KSGregman]

I test rode a 675 last summer....flogged the piss out of it....fantastic bike.

[marko138]

Oooooooooooooh....a Penn State Edition.

[CrazyKell]

And here I thought you posted your PM to me in the forum.:D

Hey now. Don't go giving me a bad reputation for things that didn't even happen! :lmao:

:?: :lol

[Particle Man]

pretty slick lookin' ride

[MissHell]

Very nice! :)

[z06boy]

That blue and white is a sharp looking combo in the pic. I haven't seen one in person like that...very nice.

[smileyman]

The painted frame on the anni is cool, but I want mine in red!

[Dave]

The painted frame on the anni is cool, but I want mine in red!

just buy a ducati then :lol

[Over200]

I rode one they are really ok..seems to be underpowered just my .02

[Amber Lamps]

I rode one they are really ok..seems to be underpowered just my .02

Me too... I thought, eh it's okay. It definitely looks fabulous!

[Curb]

I rode one they are really ok..seems to be underpowered just my .02
What year was the one you rode? from 06-08 they were the same bike and this year they revamped it...made it lighter gave it more power and a really kick ass transmission.

[Over200]

What year was the one you rode? from 06-08 they were the same bike and this year they revamped it...made it lighter gave it more power and a really kick ass transmission.

The one in the pic..it's a 09 or 10 model Limited white & blue...It handled very well don't get me wrong just under powered for my taste.

[Amber Lamps]

The one in the pic..it's a 09 or 10 model Limited white & blue...It handled very well don't get me wrong just under powered for my taste.

Again, I agree, I rode an older one and it was thin, and handled excellent but I would have expected a lot more torque than a I4 600...:idk: To be honest, on looks alone, I'b buy this bike if they made a liter version of it!:drool:

[Mr Lefty]

looks sick... if they'd have made the forks the same blue it'd have been perfect IMO...

[Homeslice]

Nice color........Can't deal with its scrunched-up riding position though. Track-only IMO. Nowhere near as comfy as a CBR or GSXR.

[karl_1052]

Hey now. Don't go giving me a bad reputation for things that didn't even happen! :lmao:

:?: :lol

Hopes and dreams crushed once again.:cry:

[Cass]

Oh my... that is yummy!

[Over200]

Again, I agree, I rode an older one and it was thin, and handled excellent but I would have expected a lot more torque than a I4 600...:idk: To be honest, on looks alone, I'b buy this bike if they made a liter version of it!:drool:

I agree..But Im gonna really look into the BMW Liter....I think thats gonna be the ticket!!

[Amber Lamps]

I agree..But Im gonna really look into the BMW Liter....I think thats gonna be the ticket!!

Well you'll be in rarefied company! I doubt they'll sell many of these and most of the ones they do will end up in some warehouse or garage somewhere, trust me! I doubt 1 out of 5 of these will be "daily riders" like a GSXR or a similar bike would be.:idk:

[Over200]

Well you'll be in rarefied company! I doubt they'll sell many of these and most of the ones they do will end up in some warehouse or garage somewhere, trust me! I doubt 1 out of 5 of these will be "daily riders" like a GSXR or a similar bike would be.:idk:

Oh trust me if I get my hands on one which btw there is a good possibilty..I will daily ride like a MoFo!!..I don't really believe in that keep the mileage at a min...I buy or build sh*t for the purpose it is intended..but thats just me!

[Over200]

They are opening a brand new BMW/Ducati dealership here..It's like a 3 million dollar dealership..Im sure they will get one!

[Amber Lamps]

Oh trust me if I get my hands on one which btw there is a good possibilty..I will daily ride like a MoFo!!..I don't really believe in that keep the mileage at a min...I buy or build sh*t for the purpose it is intended..but thats just me!

Me too brother, me too!!!

They are opening a brand new BMW/Ducati dealership here..It's like a 3 million dollar dealership..Im sure they will get one!

Well, get your money in!

[Over200]

Me too brother, me too!!!



Well, get your money in!

Oh Im on top of it!!

[racedoll]

That bike looks pretty sweet! I love the blue and white.

[KSGregman]

That bike looks MUCH better in person....Biker's Edge here in Wichita has one. $11,300 OTD including the Two Brothers exhaust

Strip off the passenger pegs...put on the solo cowl...add some Arata rearsets....flush mount signals....PC/air cleaner/custom map....yeah...it would be HOT.

I wish now I wouldn't have stopped in to see it....got a raging fucking woodie for it. :lmao:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/KSGregman/Daytona_675.jpg

[marko138]

The 675 just isn't enough motor. Sounds pretty awesome though. My buddy has one and he loves it. :idk:

[shmike]

The 675 just isn't enough motor. Sounds pretty awesome though. My buddy has one and he loves it. :idk:

Not all of us need an extra 525cc's to compete with the other middleweights.

[marko138]

Not all of us need an extra 525cc's to compete with the other middleweights.
:idk: I dont enjoy revving my shit to the moon to get any response out of it.

[Amber Lamps]

Not all of us need an extra 525cc's to compete with the other middleweights.

Not all of us want to ride a middleweight...:idk:

[marko138]

Not all of us want to ride a middleweight...:idk:
Truth.

[CrazyKell]

The 675 just isn't enough motor. Sounds pretty awesome though. My buddy has one and he loves it. :idk:

Are you joking? :scratch:

I have a 636 and I don't have to "rev the shit out of it" to keep up with anything. :idk:

[marko138]

Are you joking? :scratch:

I have a 636 and I don't have to "rev the shit out of it" to keep up with anything. :idk:
Where is peak power made on 600cc machines. Go ahead, look it up, I'll wait.

[CrazyKell]

I don't know nor am I going to look it up to argue with you on the internet.

I just don't understand why you feel you can't keep up with a 675 motor. :scratch:

I ride with all types of riders and bikes and never feel like I'm working at it. :shrug:

[marko138]

I don't know nor am I going to look it up to argue with you on the internet.

I just don't understand why you feel you can't keep up with a 675 motor. :scratch:

I ride with all types of riders and bikes and never feel like I'm working at it. :shrug:
Who said anything about keeping up? Not me. I'm talking about making power. And it's done in the upper registers of the RPM range. Plain and simple. I'm not arguing...they are great bikes. I just prefer a larger engine in a different configuration.

[CrazyKell]

I'm sorry. I read it as keeping up but after looking back I see you said "getting a response" out of it. Fair enough!

Still sexy! :lol

[marko138]

Dont get me wrong, they are awesome bikes. If I was in the market for a fully faired middleweight I'd be looking at a Triumph. Especially the blue and white. I love blue and white bikes. The Buell XB's, the 1125, the Triumphs.

[Amber Lamps]

Dont get me wrong, they are awesome bikes. If I was in the market for a fully faired middleweight I'd be looking at a Triumph. Especially the blue and white. I love blue and white bikes. The Buell XB's, the 1125, the Triumphs.

Tigger's.....:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Where is peak power made on 600cc machines. Go ahead, look it up, I'll wait.

Yea, I can't ride a 600. I put tires on my buddy's bike last week and rode it to his house for him and I hated every mile. There is just something about a liter bike that appeals to me... :idk:

[marko138]

Tigger's.....:lol:
How could I have left that out. Of course, Tiggers. Honestly, there are a billion of the blue and white stock GSXR's out there...but there were always my favorite. And as I've said before, your bike looks awesome.

Yea, I can't ride a 600. I put tires on my buddy's bike last week and rode it to his house for him and I hated every mile. There is just something about a liter bike that appeals to me... :idk:
Maybe the 80+ ft lbs of torque?

[Rider]

It looks sweet but that swingarm looks so damn frail.

As far as middleweights go I still prefer the GSXR750, not that I'd own one again but... liter performance from a 600 weight class... you can't beat it.

[z06boy]

Yea, I can't ride a 600. I put tires on my buddy's bike last week and rode it to his house for him and I hated every mile. There is just something about a liter bike that appeals to me... :idk:

I put a new from tire on he R6 Friday night and took it out for a spin to check everything after I was finished. I 'almost never' ride the R6 anymore since my wife took it over and started riding. I hopped on it...hit the road...all seemed good at low speed...warmed the tires up and hit it and was like WTF...I thought something was wrong with it and then remembered where the power was. After I hit 10k it was a beast from then on but down low...not so much. :lol:

I know this 675 and even the 636 mentioned would have more down low...or at least I think they should but up top the R6 is a blast.

Saturday morning we got up and went for a ride. I hopped on my R1...hit the road...went through the gears and said..."ahhhh...daddy's home !!" :lol:

I know the track is different but on the street...give me my litre please.

I've already mentioned that I think the 675 in the original post is sexy...and it is !!

It looks sweet but that swingarm looks so damn frail.

As far as middleweights go I still prefer the GSXR750, not that I'd own one again but... liter performance from a 600 weight class... you can't beat it.

I really like the 750 quite a bit.

[marko138]

The 675's whole gimmick is that it has more torque than a 600 I4...but in reality the torque numbers aren't that much different. I'd imagine the triple puts its peak torque down in the rev range a bit more than the I4.

[Rider]

The 675's whole gimmick is that it has more torque than a 600 I4...but in reality the torque numbers aren't that much different. I'd imagine the triple puts its peak torque down in the rev range a bit more than the I4.

Yeah, according to the dyno, the 675 peak torque comes at a much lower rev.

[z06boy]

I know on the R6 at 6-7k rpm...it is as flat as a coca-cola that has been sitting in the fridge for a week with no cap on it. :lol: Once you hit 10k...all the way to close to 17k it's like an energy drink !! :lol:

Being flat down low though...in all honesty did play in to the reason my wife was turned loose on one as her first bike. She's not a kid so she paid attention when I told her DO NOT rev it past 8k...period !! :lol:

Now that it's been 2 years she revs the pizz out of it. :idk:

[karl_1052]

The 675 just isn't enough motor. Sounds pretty awesome though. My buddy has one and he loves it. :idk:

That is how I feel about XBs.:?:

[Amber Lamps]

How could I have left that out. Of course, Tiggers. Honestly, there are a billion of the blue and white stock GSXR's out there...but there were always my favorite. And as I've said before, your bike looks awesome.


Maybe the 80+ ft lbs of torque?

Mmmmm could be!:lol: Yea I'm totally with you! To me a liter bike is just a much better street bike.

[Amber Lamps]

I know on the R6 at 6-7k rpm...it is as flat as a coca-cola that has been sitting in the fridge for a week with no cap on it. :lol: Once you hit 10k...all the way to close to 17k it's like an energy drink !! :lol:

Being flat down low though...in all honesty did play in to the reason my wife was turned loose on one as her first bike. She's not a kid so she paid attention when I told her DO NOT rev it past 8k...period !! :lol:

Now that it's been 2 years she revs the pizz out of it. :idk:

Yea that was always part of my argument for 600s as starter bikes. As long as you stay out of the higher rev range, it's a pussy cat!:idk:

[Rider]

Yea that was always part of my argument for 600s as starter bikes. As long as you stay out of the higher rev range, it's a pussy cat!:idk:

I'd even go as far as to say the same applies to the 750. Below 5K it is very manageable and you can easily putt around below that range even at highway speed. You'd be short shifting but it's still manageable.

[marko138]

I'd even go as far as to say the same applies to the 750. Below 5K it is very manageable and you can easily putt around below that range even at highway speed. You'd be short shifting but it's still manageable.
Thats what I told the kid who bought my Zuk...keep it below 6k and you're golden.

That is how I feel about XBs.:?:
Fair enough. The XB does everything I need it to do...including make over 60 ft lbs at 2000 rpm. And it sounds killer.

[karl_1052]

Fair enough. The XB does everything I need it to do...including make over 60 ft lbs at 2000 rpm. And it sounds killer.

It does. And it is a bike I consider every once in a while(especially the lightning).

[Dave]

Mmmmm could be!:lol: Yea I'm totally with you! To me a liter bike is just a much better street bike.

especially for two up pantie dropping you cradle robber ;) not that im any better :lol:

[Dave]

I put a new from tire on he R6 Friday night and took it out for a spin to check everything after I was finished. I 'almost never' ride the R6 anymore since my wife took it over and started riding. I hopped on it...hit the road...all seemed good at low speed...warmed the tires up and hit it and was like WTF...I thought something was wrong with it and then remembered where the power was. After I hit 10k it was a beast from then on but down low...not so much. :lol:

I know this 675 and even the 636 mentioned would have more down low...or at least I think they should but up top the R6 is a blast.

Saturday morning we got up and went for a ride. I hopped on my R1...hit the road...went through the gears and said..."ahhhh...daddy's home !!" :lol:

I know the track is different but on the street...give me my litre please.

I've already mentioned that I think the 675 in the original post is sexy...and it is !!



I really like the 750 quite a bit.

isint the r1 also supposed to be kinda dead down low? I mean ive had limited time on them but that was my experience

[Rider]

isint the r1 also supposed to be kinda dead down low? I mean ive had limited time on them but that was my experience

There was a complaint a while back about a dead spot around 2500 in one gear(I don't remember which one)on the 06/07. Never heard if there was a fix but I don't hear the complaint anymore.

[z06boy]

isint the r1 also supposed to be kinda dead down low? I mean ive had limited time on them but that was my experience

Not compared to a 600. It's about like the rest of the litrebikes. I've ridden a Turbo Hayabusa and even a Ducati and a few v-twin cruisers that all had more torque down low so I guess it's all relative.

I know one thing though...when I twist the grip on my R1...it goes. :idk:

[z06boy]

There was a complaint a while back about a dead spot around 2500 in one gear(I don't remember which one)on the 06/07. Never heard if there was a fix but I don't hear the complaint anymore.

Actually it was at 5500 rpm in 2nd gear and 2nd gear only...kind of weird. Yes there was a fix...the dealer will switch the puter out.

[marko138]

Actually it was at 5500 rpm in 2nd gear and 2nd gear only...kind of weird. Yes there was a fix...the dealer will switch the puter out.
My buddy had an 07 and had that complaint. I never rode it.

[z06boy]

My buddy had an 07 and had that complaint. I never rode it.

What's funny is I never knew there was an issue from riding it. It wasn't until I read about it online and then had to take the bike out and attempt to duplicate it and when I did...it was there.

In daily riding whether on a spirited run or just riding around I never hammer it at exactly 5500 rpm in 2nd gear evidently. If you hammer it at 5k or below it doesn't do it or 6000 or above...you have to be doing pretty much exactly 5500 in 2nd gear and 2nd gear only. No other gear at 5500 rpm would result in the same hesitation. :idk: A software issue no doubt.

[marko138]

What's funny is I never knew there was an issue from riding it. It wasn't until I read about it online and then had to take the bike out and attempt to duplicate it and when I did...it was there.

In daily riding whether on a spirited run or just riding around I never hammer it at exactly 5500 rpm in 2nd gear evidently. If you hammer it at 5k or below it doesn't do it or 6000 or above...you have to be doing pretty much exactly 5500 in 2nd gear and 2nd gear only. No other gear at 5500 rpm would result in the same hesitation. :idk: A software issue no doubt.
Sounds like my Jeep. At about 40mph in top gear it surges just a bit. Go another other speed and it doesn't do it. I also had a 05 JGC for work when I was in news and it did the exact same thing at the exact same speed.

[z06boy]

Sounds like my Jeep. At about 40mph in top gear it surges just a bit. Go another other speed and it doesn't do it. I also had a 05 JGC for work when I was in news and it did the exact same thing at the exact same speed.

Manual or auto ? Inline six or V8.

If it's an auto inline six...I'm gonna try it in my Cherokee on the way home after work. :lol:

[Dave]

Sounds like my Jeep. At about 40mph in top gear it surges just a bit. Go another other speed and it doesn't do it. I also had a 05 JGC for work when I was in news and it did the exact same thing at the exact same speed.

my 97 v8 limited was doing that yesterday on the way home from drill. Seemed to go away with od off and later wouldnt do it once the tranny fluid was warmed up

[Rider]

Actually it was at 5500 rpm in 2nd gear and 2nd gear only...kind of weird. Yes there was a fix...the dealer will switch the puter out.

Yep that's it. It had been so long ago I forgot the details. I wonder if the ECU wasn't accounting for the ram air at that speed/rpm/gear combination and running far too lean? A simple fix anyway.

[marko138]

It does. And it is a bike I consider every once in a while(especially the lightning).

I am considering trading my Firebolt for a Lightning.


Manual or auto ? Inline six or V8.

If it's an auto inline six...I'm gonna try it in my Cherokee on the way home after work. :lol:

my 97 v8 limited was doing that yesterday on the way home from drill. Seemed to go away with od off and later wouldnt do it once the tranny fluid was warmed up

Both Jeeps in question is and are 2005 3.5 V6 auto's.

[racedoll]

Are you joking? :scratch:

I have a 636 and I don't have to "rev the shit out of it" to keep up with anything. :idk:

I'm sorry. I read it as keeping up but after looking back I see you said "getting a response" out of it. Fair enough!

Still sexy! :lol

I was going to say... my 600 isn't happy unless it is at least at 9K.

[LeeNetworX]

Saw one up close at the local Triumph dealer this weekend while out riding. The pearl white is badass, but I'm not sold on the shade of blue. I think a darker blue (think mako blue) would have been a better choice...but that's just my opinion.

[marko138]

Saw one up close at the local Triumph dealer this weekend while out riding. The pearl white is badass, but I'm not sold on the shade of blue. I think a darker blue (think mako blue) would have been a better choice...but that's just my opinion.
I agree with you, I saw one a few weeks ago at the dealer. I wasn't sold on the blue either. Looks good in pictures I think...but in person it doesn't come across.

[z06boy]

I may swing by and check one out. A friend totalled his R6 and is shopping around for his next bike.

[Apoc]

that is a sexy bike. Throw a bigger motor in it though, as was already said.

[shmike]

You guys crack me up with your bigger motor nonsense.

I've never heard anyone say that about an R6, GSXR-6, CBR-6, ZX6, etc.

IT IS A MIDDLEWEIGHT BIKE!

If you want a bigger motor, buy a different bike.

[marko138]

You guys crack me up with your bigger motor nonsense.

I've never heard anyone say that about an R6, GSXR-6, CBR-6, ZX6, etc.

IT IS A MIDDLEWEIGHT BIKE!

If you want a bigger motor, buy a different bike.
I'm not sure which part of this you aren't hearing correctly. People like the look of the bike but would like to see a bigger motor in it. Same layout and package with a different motor. What is so hard to grasp here?

[shmike]

I'm not sure which part of this you aren't hearing correctly. People like the look of the bike but would like to see a bigger motor in it. Same layout and package with a different motor. What is so hard to grasp here?

Just because Buell offers you the option to go slow or slower on your XB doesn't mean most manufacturers do that.

Usually, a new motor means new frame, geometry, etc. Essentially a new bike.

Ducati is the only brand to successfully offer the same basic (sport) bike with two different powerplants.

[marko138]

Just because Buell offers you the option to go slow or slower on your XB doesn't mean most manufacturers do that.

Usually, a new motor means new frame, geometry, etc. Essentially a new bike.

Ducati is the only brand to successfully offer the same basic bike with two different powerplants.
Way to side step by bashing my bike.

[shmike]

Way to side step by bashing my bike.

Thats my pole smoking way.

[shmike]

Thats my pole smoking way.

Very grown-up, Marko.

You're the big dog. :dthumb:

[karl_1052]

You guys crack me up with your bigger motor nonsense.

I've never heard anyone say that about an R6, GSXR-6, CBR-6, ZX6, etc.

IT IS A MIDDLEWEIGHT BIKE!

If you want a bigger motor, buy a different bike.

That is the point. With the GSXR, ZX, CBR and YZF, you have a choice of a 600 or 1000. Triumph does not offer that choice, and that is why people say it would be awesome with a bigger motor.

A 1050 motor in that would be awesome.

[marko138]

Very grown-up, Marko.

You're the big dog. :dthumb:
Glad you approve, dickus.

[Rider]

Just because Buell offers you the option to go slow or slower on your XB doesn't mean most manufacturers do that.

Usually, a new motor means new frame, geometry, etc. Essentially a new bike.

Ducati is the only brand to successfully offer the same basic (sport) bike with two different powerplants.

Not true, the GSX-R600 and 750 are identical with the exception of cc's

[shmike]

That is the point. With the GSXR, ZX, CBR and YZF, you have a choice of a 600 or 1000. Triumph does not offer that choice, and that is why people say it would be awesome with a bigger motor.

A 1050 motor in that would be awesome.

A choice yes but not the same bike.

The probelm as I see it is that Triumph doesn't have the R&D budget to design a full on superbike capable of competing with the big 4.

Anything less would be a Sprint with less comfort. :idk:

[karl_1052]

A choice yes but not the same bike.

The probelm as I see it is that Triumph doesn't have the R&D budget to design a full on superbike capable of competing with the big 4.

Anything less would be a Sprint with less comfort. :idk:

they at least used to try.

[shmike]

Not true, the GSX-R600 and 750 are identical with the exception of cc's

You're right, I forgot about the 750.

They still make that thing?

[shmike]

they at least used to try.

No they didn't.

The 955 and earlier Daytona's were their own breed of street-sport.

Since the 675 was introduced they have stepped into the realm of track-built bike with lights.

[karl_1052]

No they didn't.

The 955 and earlier Daytona's were their own breed of street-sport.

Since the 675 was introduced they have stepped into the realm of track-built bike with lights.

The T595 was meant to compete directly with the YZF1000, the ZX9R and the GSXR1100. Too bad the year it finally got decent, the R1 came out and the ZX9R was substantially upgraded.

But they did try.

[shmike]

The T595 was meant to compete directly with the YZF1000, the ZX9R and the GSXR1100. Too bad the year it finally got decent, the R1 came out and the ZX9R was substantially upgraded.

But they did try.

Fair enough.

At that time, those bikes were street bikes and have been subsequently dropped from the model line in favor of the new superbikes.

[Apoc]

You guys crack me up with your bigger motor nonsense.

I've never heard anyone say that about an R6, GSXR-6, CBR-6, ZX6, etc.

IT IS A MIDDLEWEIGHT BIKE!

If you want a bigger motor, buy a different bike.


UMMM.... In case you havent noticed, theres an R1, GSXR1k, CBR1KRR, ZX10R... So you dont have to say that. I, for one, would never buy one of their smaller siblings.

[shmike]

UMMM.... In case you havent noticed, theres an R1, GSXR1k, CBR1KRR, ZX10R... So you dont have to say that. I, for one, would never buy one of their smaller siblings.

I noticed.

Which of the bikes you listed is the same as its little brother other than displacement?

[Apoc]

The differences are small, and in some cases, only a year behind...

[shmike]

The differences are small, and in some cases, only a year behind...

True.

It's very tough to distinguish this:

http://www.redbluffyamaha.com/motorcycles/sport-touring/yzf-r6-2009.jpg

From this:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/2009_Yamaha_R1-1.jpg

[Apoc]

the new r1 is a redesign, and Yamaha is best at keeping them seperate. The gsxr and cbr are very close to the same.

As I said 3 times now, ive got no interest in a 600cc engine in a sportbike.

[shmike]

the new r1 is a redesign, and Yamaha is best at keeping them seperate. The gsxr and cbr are very close to the same.

As I said 3 times now, ive got no interest in a 600cc engine in a sportbike.

GSXR's look very similar.

The Honda's have less similarities than the Yammies.

I never debated your interest in a 600cc bike. I do find your interest in this thread ironic though. :lol:

[Apoc]

I still love sportbikes man. I didnt wake up one day and say 'Hey, I hate sportbikes, I want a Harley now', just at 6'4, 290, im not exactly comfortable on modern litre bikes.

[pauldun170]

No they didn't.

The 955 and earlier Daytona's were their own breed of street-sport.

Since the 675 was introduced they have stepped into the realm of track-built bike with lights.

1200\T595\955's are all still cool street bikes.

Don't take my word for it...I still like RF-900's and ride a 16 year old bike.

[z06boy]

I still love sportbikes man. I didnt wake up one day and say 'Hey, I hate sportbikes, I want a Harley now', just at 6'4, 290, im not exactly comfortable on modern litre bikes.

Why ? :rofl:

[shmike]

1200\T595\955's are all still cool street bikes.

Don't take my word for it...I still like RF-900's and ride a 16 year old bike.

I'd love to have a T595 or 955 as a street bike.

It's too bad Triumph doesn't bring it back with the 1050 motor.

[Rider]

I'd love to have a T595 or 955 as a street bike.

It's too bad Triumph doesn't bring it back with the 1050 motor.

IIRC that's what's in the Speed Triple.

[shmike]

IIRC that's what's in the Speed Triple.

Yep.

It's also in the Sprint and the Tiger too.

[Amber Lamps]

Okay, the Japs have gone a long way "recently" to distinguish the different displacement bikes BUT it's wasn't that long ago when you could literally take body parts off a GSXR 600 and put them on either a 750 or a 1000. For those who claim :lol: Yamaha is somehow "better" at this I give you the Thundercat and the Thunderace.... Oh and the CBR1000 and the new CBR600 are quite similar...:wink:

[shmike]

Okay, the Japs have gone a long way "recently" to distinguish the different displacement bikes BUT it's wasn't that long ago when you could literally take body parts off a GSXR 600 and put them on either a 750 or a 1000. For those who claim :lol: Yamaha is somehow "better" at this I give you the Thundercat and the Thunderace.... Oh and the CBR1000 and the new CBR600 are quite similar...:wink:

Welcome to the thread, Tigger.

Compelling argument.

You're about 3 pages late.

[smileyman]

Not just bodywork Tigger, engine covers, wheels, brake parts, radiators, lots more...

[Amber Lamps]

Not just bodywork Tigger, engine covers, wheels, brake parts, radiators, lots more...

Oh I know, I just stopped there... I owned a '97 YZF1000R and I've owned a '01, '03, '06 GSXR1000. Personally, I've always felt that this is genius on the manufacturer's part and something that some American automakers should emulate.

[Smittie61984]

shes def pretty but i still think i liked the old SE better. Black and gold was to die for

If I was about to get one and had those two side by side on the showroom floor I'd probably shoot myself because either way I couldn't live with my decision.

[Homeslice]

I was going to say... my 600 isn't happy unless it is at least at 9K.

The Kawi 6RR was never known for low-end (I used to have an 03). But not all 600's are the same. If you had rode my 05 R6, I bet you never would had a problem with its sub-9K performance, unless you weigh 200+ of course.

People who say that you really have to rev out a 600 to get anywhere are just being stupid, unless they are talking about track riding.

[Apoc]

no, were not being stupid. You have to rev the shit out of them to make any power... Its that simple.

[Homeslice]

Sure, if you mean keeping up with other bikes......or riding on the track........But you don't need to go past 9K to get ahead of traffic, unless you are street-racing against a pretty decent car.

[Apoc]

Sure, if you mean keeping up with other bikes......or riding on the track........But you don't need to go past 9K to get ahead of traffic, unless you are street-racing against a pretty decent car.

True, I guess i've gotta realize that you live where there is a lot of traffic. Here, on the highway, I might pass a car every mile or so, less on back roads, so you can keep rpm's up pretty high all the time.

[marko138]

no, were not being stupid. You have to rev the shit out of them to make any power... Its that simple.
Right. Look at the dyno graph from any middleweight 600. The peak power and torque are way up high in the rev range. This is not an issue for debate, this is fact.

[shmike]

Peak HP and peak torque on the Buell XB12R is at 6750 RPM.

That's at the very TOP of the rev range.

Fact.

[marko138]

Peak HP and peak torque on the Buell XB12R is at 6750 RPM.

That's at the very TOP of the rev range.

Fact.
Explain to me how a Buell XB12R has anything to do with an inline 4 middleweight.

[Homeslice]

Right. Look at the dyno graph from any middleweight 600. The peak power and torque are way up high in the rev range. This is not an issue for debate, this is fact.

We realize this. But in day to day riding, is it necessary to rev it to that range just in order to get in front of traffic? Not in my experience.

[shmike]

Explain to me how a Buell XB12R has anything to do with an inline 4 middleweight.

Explain to me how an inline 4 middleweight has anything to do with the bike posted.

[Homeslice]

:lol:

[marko138]

Explain to me how an inline 4 middleweight has anything to do with the bike posted.
Explain to me why you are such a shithead?

[z06boy]

I'm talking about regular riding around here. I don't daily commute on my bikes. If I take them out for a ride usually it is a "spirited" run and I don't mean racing but I don't mean stop and go traffic either. After getting off of my R1...the R6 is flat below 8k period and I don't really like it...that's why it's now my wife's bike. :idk:

Don't get me wrong...it's a great bike but mainly for the track so you can rev the $hit out of it. If you ride in this area and plan to pass a car on a two lane...you better rev the R6 up but on my R1 it take a LOT less effort.

It's not being stupid...it's being factual.

[Homeslice]

I'm talking about regular riding around here. I don't daily commute on my bikes. If I take them out for a ride usually it is a "spirited" run and I don't mean racing but I don't mean stop and go traffic either. After getting off of my R1...the R6 is flat below 8k period and I don't really like it...that's why it's now my wife's bike. :idk:

Don't get me wrong...it's a great bike but mainly for the track so you can rev the $hit out of it. If you ride in this area and plan to pass a car on a two lane...you better rev the R6 up but on my R1 it take a LOT less effort.

It's not being stupid...it's being factual.

First, there is a big difference between an 06-07 R6 and a 03-05. 06-07 were the worst years in terms of low-end power. For 08 Yamaha made some changes.

Also, some of you guys weigh 100 lbs more than me :lol:

[z06boy]

First, there is a big difference between an 06-07 R6 and a 03-05. 06-07 were the worst years in terms of low-end power. For 08 Yamaha made some changes.

Also, some of you guys weigh 100 lbs more than me :lol:

I'm not disagreeing with this at all.

I've owned a few "middleweights" BUT admittedly haven't owned one in a long time until I picked up the 07 R6.

I remember how my 600's felt from the early to mid 90's and knew how much these bikes have been improved and when I hopped on the R6 after buying it I thought...geez...is there something wrong with this bike ? :lol:

After break in when I was able to run it up through the rev range I realized even more how much this bike was geared for the track.

Yes weight makes a big difference too. :cheers: That's why the wife and I can't have the same HP/TQ and bike weight...I don't want her faster than me. :lol

[Amber Lamps]

:lol: You guys are killing me!!!

I think it has a lot to do with where you are coming from. When I traded in my V-Max for my FZR1000, it took me forever to get used to how "high" I had to rev the bike to get a decent launch. I actually stalled the damn thing quite frequently until I got used to it!:lol: I doubt that you can find an "expert" that won't tell you that a 1000 is a far better bike for city riding than a 600 simply because of the amount of torque and the way it is delivered.:idk: IMHO for city riding or freeway commuting a liter bike is better hands down.

[smileyman]

I can comment here. I have owned 5 in line 4 600s and an SV 650. All of my 600s made power up top but only the YZF600R, not the R6 now called R6S, and ZX6R had any push in the midrange. All were good up to a point but the race reps needed to rely on hi rpm HP to get any real thrust. The SV did not have the Hi rpm to rely on but used the mid range torque to good effect. I did not know anything about mid range tho until my Buell! Bottom line the 675 is not a liter bike and dont have the big torque numbers. It does seem to compete well with most of its competition in the middleweight class...

[Amber Lamps]

I can comment here. I have owned 5 in line 4 600s and an SV 650. All of my 600s made power up top but only the YZF600R, not the R6 now called R6S, and ZX6R had any push in the midrange. All were good up to a point but the race reps needed to rely on hi rpm HP to get any real thrust. The SV did not have the Hi rpm to rely on but used the mid range torque to good effect. I did not know anything about mid range tho until my Buell! Bottom line the 675 is not a liter bike and dont have the big torque numbers. It does seem to compete well with most of its competition in the middleweight class...

QFT! Although, if I were in this market, I'd have to go with the 750... costs about the same to buy and has WAY better numbers.

[z06boy]

Yep some people buy the R6S over the R6 due to this...more mid range...so better day to day city riding.

[karl_1052]

Peak HP and peak torque on the Buell XB12R is at 6750 RPM.

That's at the very TOP of the rev range.

Fact.

Buell XB12 makes 60 lbs/ft of torque at 2000rpm(75lbs/ft at 6000rpm)
Triumph 675 makes 35lbs/ft of troque at 3000rpm(47.0lbs/ft at 10400rpm)

Fact.

[shmike]

Buell XB12 makes 60 lbs/ft of torque at 2000rpm(75lbs/ft at 6000rpm)
Triumph 675 makes 35lbs/ft of troque at 3000rpm(47.0lbs/ft at 10400rpm)

Fact.

I'm glad someone caught that. :lol:

It is a bigger motor with HUGE pistons compared the the 675, of course it has more torque.

The torque curve of the 675 is very linear and builds steadily like most inlines.

The Buell curve is funny. It is close to peak at around 2700, then falls on it's face and doesn't get back into the 70's until around 5500.

FACT.

With the Buell, you're best served to keep it between 2000-2700 or between 5500-6750. Either way it is a narrow window.

OPINION.

[Tmall]

I'm glad someone caught that. :lol:

It is a bigger motor with HUGE pistons compared the the 675, of course it has more torque.

The torque curve of the 675 is very linear and builds steadily like most inlines.

The Buell curve is funny. It is close to peak at around 2700, then falls on it's face and doesn't get back into the 70's until around 5500.

FACT.

With the Buell, you're best served to keep it between 2000-2700 or between 5500-6750. Either way it is a narrow window.

OPINION.


There are NO flat spots when you're riding it, and it pulls hard from 2500-7100 in every gear.

FACT

The window is far from narrow, as the bike revs slower than a short stroke 4. The only problem I have with the power band is that it doesn't drop anywhere, so I find myself hitting the limiter from time to time, since it just pulls hard all the way to it..

FACT

[Homeslice]

Burger King shits all over Micky D's

FACT







ok maybe opinion :lol:

[shmike]

There are NO flat spots when you're riding it, and it pulls hard from 2500-7100 in every gear.

FACT

The window is far from narrow, as the bike revs slower than a short stroke 4. The only problem I have with the power band is that it doesn't drop anywhere, so I find myself hitting the limiter from time to time, since it just pulls hard all the way to it..

FACT

It is not a flat spot, it's a trench. I could easily feel it before a pipe and remap.

I agree that it doesn't taper off at the end. Very easy to hit the limiter if you aren't paying attention.

[Rider]

It is not a flat spot, it's a trench. I could easily feel it before a pipe and remap.

I agree that it doesn't taper off at the end. Very easy to hit the limiter if you aren't paying attention.

That's true of any low reving V-Twin when you are used to power band characteristics of a I-4. I rode a Super Duke and it hit red line in a blink of an eye. I was consistently hitting the rev limiter in every gear.

[Tmall]

It is not a flat spot, it's a trench. I could easily feel it before a pipe and remap.

I agree that it doesn't taper off at the end. Very easy to hit the limiter if you aren't paying attention.

What I find odd is that you're describing the flat spot basically right where the exhaust valve shifts positions. I could definitely feel the flow path change over, but would never have called it a flat spot.

Now that I have the way too loud pipe on it, no more "stutter" when the valve shifts.

Depending on the bike, the cable could have been loose for the valve, or the muffler could have been dented in a spot that would have compromised the smoothness of the valve movement.

[shmike]

I'm talking about the torque curve of the XB motor.

Here is Sportrider's dyno of the '04 XB12R.

Unless their bike's exhaust was dented in the same place as the Buell I had, I'll assume it was across all the motors of that year. There is a noticeable lull.

Maybe it's been corrected on the newer models, it pretty much went away with the new exhaust. :idk:

http://image.sportrider.com/f/8831540/146_0312_z+buell_xb12r_firebolt_dyno+.gif

[Amber Lamps]

Burger King shits all over Micky D's

FACT

ok maybe opinion :lol:

Neither Ronald McDonald nor the Burger King are fit to lick Checkers BALL SACK!!! For drive thru type food, Checkers is the bomb!!! I had their Baconzilla burger the other day and almost nutted it was so good! Don't get me started on their wings and french fries...:drool: Oh and their shakes... ohhhhhhh... see ya!

[smileyman]

I'm talking about the torque curve of the XB motor.

Here is Sportrider's dyno of the '04 XB12R.

Unless their bike's exhaust was dented in the same place as the Buell I had, I'll assume it was across all the motors of that year. There is a noticeable lull.

Maybe it's been corrected on the newer models, it pretty much went away with the new exhaust. :idk:

http://image.sportrider.com/f/8831540/146_0312_z+buell_xb12r_firebolt_dyno+.gif

Not that it matters in the discussion but my Buell is an 1125R, Lil more torque than the Thunderstorm engine makes in the Xb line...

Those torque numbers for the 675 seem VERY low. I have seen them dyno at or above most 600s at 58 ft lbs...

[Tmall]

Not that it matters in the discussion but my Buell is an 1125R, Lil more torque than the Thunderstorm engine makes in the Xb line...

Those torque numbers for the 675 seem VERY low. I have seen them dyno at or above most 600s at 58 ft lbs...

Not that I have any hard numbers, but you're almost right.

The thunderstorm makes 84ft/lb to the 82 or so of the 1125. Both being crank numbers.

The difference being, the xb makes it at 6000. The 1125 at 9000.

[Amber Lamps]

Man that was good! A short ride and some Checkers food!:rockwoot:

[Dave]

fuck now i want a whopper

[Amber Lamps]

fuck now i want a whopper

Dude go to Checkers in stead! You won't regret it!

[Homeslice]

Checkers? :scratch: Never heard of that ish. You know it's all about the Fatburger, bitch.

[shmike]

Checkers? :scratch: Never heard of that ish. You know it's all about the Fatburger, bitch.

Do you guys have Rally's?

They were the same as Checkers under a different name.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

I was over my 675 lust until i happened upon this...

I just did things, terrible things, to my keyboard.

[Amber Lamps]

I was over my 675 lust until i happened upon this...

I just did things, terrible things, to my keyboard.

Hey sexy, where have you been?:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Checkers? :scratch: Never heard of that ish. You know it's all about the Fatburger, bitch.

Hey I wasn't the one bringing up McD and BK like they sold food, punk! Besides, Fatburger went all down hill and shit after Kenan and Kel quit!!!




Oh wait that's "GOODBURGER"!!! nevermind.....:lol:

If you're going to spend over $10 for a burger, you may as well get your ass to Fudruckers motherfucker!!!

[Porkchop]

Dude go to Checkers in stead! You won't regret it!

Dont you mean Rally's???? haha! I got down to Florida a couple months back and was like.... what the fuck is "Checkers" doing on the Rally's sign??? :lol:

Same goes for White Castle... isnt there basically a knock-off in the south called Krystals???

[Amber Lamps]

Dont you mean Rally's???? haha! I got down to Florida a couple months back and was like.... what the fuck is "Checkers" doing on the Rally's sign??? :lol:

Same goes for White Castle... isnt there basically a knock-off in the south called Krystals???

Yes and i don't enjoy either! I would probably buy those mini sirloin burgers fron Jack in the box just because the commercial is so damn funny!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0WDb-xzks

[Porkchop]

Yes and i don't enjoy either! I would probably buy those mini sirloin burgers fron Jack in the box just because the commercial is so damn funny!!!

Ha, I just saw that commercial a couple minutes ago while watching the taped GP race......

What really sounds good right now is an Arby's bacon and chedder, with curly fries.... man I'm a fattie!

[Apoc]

Midgets herding midget cattle :lol: That is the funniest thing ive seen all day.

[Dave]

Midgets herding midget cattle :lol: That is the funniest thing ive seen all day.

that ad just keeps getting better everytime i see it. too bad the nearest jack is in tigger's territory. its serious bullshit that they tempt me so with the constant tv ads

[Dave]

Dude go to Checkers in stead! You won't regret it!

man i had the best plan ever, BK is just down the street from castle greyskull and i figured i could convince TL to take the 450 and id ride the 954 over for a bacon double. unfortunately she wasnt feeling comfortable enough just yet so i went whopperless :(

[Amber Lamps]

man i had the best plan ever, BK is just down the street from castle greyskull and i figured i could convince TL to take the 450 and id ride the 954 over for a bacon double. unfortunately she wasnt feeling comfortable enough just yet so i went whopperless :(

I would have went girlfriendless...:lol:

[Dave]

then id be going sexless :lmao:

[Amber Lamps]

then id be going sexless :lmao:

man can go a day without sex but without food?

[Dave]

i still got food, we just moved the whopper date to thursday. good for everyone

[HurricaneHeather]

Midgets herding midget cattle :lol: That is the funniest thing ive seen all day.

You should hear the commercial in Spanish....it's friggin hilarious.. I don't think the humor translates quite right. :lol:

[racedoll]

The Kawi 6RR was never known for low-end (I used to have an 03). But not all 600's are the same. If you had rode my 05 R6, I bet you never would had a problem with its sub-9K performance, unless you weigh 200+ of course.

People who say that you really have to rev out a 600 to get anywhere are just being stupid, unless they are talking about track riding.

I'm not complaining necessarily about my bike being low on power sub-9K. I am just agreeing that it is.

We realize this. But in day to day riding, is it necessary to rev it to that range just in order to get in front of traffic? Not in my experience.

Yes! If I want to keep up with my hubby on his 1000, then I keep mine revved up or he completely loses me.

[smileyman]

It is nice turning inside on o those 1000s and just slapping the throttle open, while they modulate the wrist to get, or try to get, the rear not to spin up...And watching them cry a each stop about buying a tire every thou to 2 thou miles...

[marko138]

It is nice turning inside on o those 1000s and just slapping the throttle open, while they modulate the wrist to get, or try to get, the rear not to spin up...And watching them cry a each stop about buying a tire every thou to 2 thou miles...
Speaking of...how's the tire on that 1125 looking?

[smileyman]

Scrubbed to the edges with slight wear on the 3/4 shoulder from minor slipping. Just pulling at the edge of the tread grooves. I love torque!!!

[marko138]

Scrubbed to the edges with slight wear on the 3/4 shoulder from minor slipping. Just pulling at the edge of the tread grooves. I love torque!!!
Whats the mileage right now?

[smileyman]

9 something. I did the break in maintenance at the dealer at 640ish, went back for the brake line recall, and did another quick loop of the local canyon for about 180 so tween 900 and athou.