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Particle Man 10-08-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 416025)

Also, you cannot compare insurance to this, because the guy was ready to pay for all the back pay. With insurance, you are esentially asking to pay 500 bucks in order to claim 10 grand. It's not the same thing.

Really? Go ask your local fire department how much it costs each time they have to roll their trucks.

Papa_Complex 10-08-2010 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 416019)
I think the whole point of this debate is that those firefighters allowed 4 animals to burn to death. Its the same thing as seeing an accident of a biker who didn't wear gear and then say fuck it. He deserves what he gets, then drive off.

Everything in this world doesn't have to have a fucking dollar sign attached to it.

The question in my mind, that none of the inflammatory news articles have bothered to answer, is for how many years Cranick "forgot" to pay this fee.

His county doesn't have a fire department. He essentially had the option of hiring a contractor, to protect his home in case of fire. Since his entire family got out of the house it would seem that he also had the time to evacuate his pets, but didn't.

Particle Man 10-08-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 416085)
The question in my mind, that none of the inflammatory news articles have bothered to answer, is for how many years Cranick "forgot" to pay this fee.

His county doesn't have a fire department. He essentially had the option of hiring a contractor, to protect his home in case of fire. Since his entire family got out of the house it would seem that he also had the time to evacuate his pets, but didn't.

Dammit! This is the INTERNET! Logic and reason have no place here! Begone, foul trickery!



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Papa_Complex 10-08-2010 07:27 AM

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...iref=allsearch

Sounds to me like he has NEVER paid.

Apoc 10-08-2010 10:06 AM

Its your fault Ed, you shouldnt have called them to unlock your door.

Apoc 10-08-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 416085)
The question in my mind, that none of the inflammatory news articles have bothered to answer, is for how many years Cranick "forgot" to pay this fee.

His county doesn't have a fire department. He essentially had the option of hiring a contractor, to protect his home in case of fire. Since his entire family got out of the house it would seem that he also had the time to evacuate his pets, but didn't.

Having been in a house that burned (though no animals were killed), I can tell you that shit can go bad in an instant. You get the family out first, then worry about the pets.

It started out as a fairly small fire, and once we all went out the dorr together and shut it, it blew up into an inferno that completely destroyed the upstairs of the home. Just because you had time to get out, doesnt mean you had time to get back in and get pets out. If I hadnt have grabbed my dog on the way out, he would have died too, because I wouldnt have been able to get in to get him.

Then he died 3 weeks later while tmall and I were doing LSD to celebrate the life and death of John Lennon. :lol: Good times.

Papa_Complex 10-08-2010 10:16 AM

You might want to watch the video that I linked. Sounds like he had plenty of warning.

AquaPython 10-08-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 416082)
As much as you want them to be on the same level as humans, our pets are not. You can buy a pet, you can choose to euthanize a pet... shelters put down thousands of animals a week. When people are treated like that, its a global concern and has historical significance.

I wish they would have saved the pets, I really do... But to put blame on anyone else other than this guy and to compare this to raping his family and whatnot is completely irrational and quite frankly, very short-sighted

hate to break it to you but people are treated like that. maybe not in your neck of the woods, but people are trafficked, bought and sold, euthanized, and massacred every day. the globe is not concerned.

Kaneman 10-08-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaPython (Post 416172)
hate to break it to you but people are treated like that. maybe not in your neck of the woods, but people are trafficked, bought and sold, euthanized, and massacred every day. the globe is not concerned.

Exactly. And that's why it should be ok to let them burn to death...just the same as a dog.

101lifts2 10-08-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 416082)
It's the exact same thing. You pay $75 per year to get a service that could very well cost $1500. You can't call your insurance company after your policy lapsed and make a claim saying you're willing to pay your premium....

No it isn't. The guy was willing to pay all costs, but they did nothing. I think the insurance would pay your claim if you told them you would just reimburse them for the entire paid claim. I'm not sure why you don't see this.


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....As much as you want them to be on the same level as humans, our pets are not. You can buy a pet, you can choose to euthanize a pet... shelters put down thousands of animals a week. When people are treated like that, its a global concern and has historical significance.....
I don't....humans have souls....animals do not. It is still a living thing that feels pain though.

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....I wish they would have saved the pets, I really do... But to put blame on anyone else other than this guy and to compare this to raping his family and whatnot is completely irrational and quite frankly, very short-sighted
The guy isn't to blame unless he intentionally set the house on fire. Choosing not to obtain fire "protection" was a choice.


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