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No...if YOU bothered to read you'd understand that the point most of us are making is that (using the the example you cited above) soda and junk food machines being in schools has NOTHING to do with the REAL problem.

The REAL problem is that a lot of people are completely devoid of ANY personal accountability. Do junk food machines fire out a series of twinkies like a machine gun and down some fat kids gullet? NO. Does the soda machine grab people by the neck as they walk by and inject a can of soda down their throat? NO. People CHOOSE to go the vending machine, purchase the twinkies, and eat them. People CHOOSE to go the soda machine, purchase a can of soda and drink it.

The fact that the vending machines are there does not absolve people of the responsibility to not consume the products available for sale knowing that the majority of them are unhealthy.

Personal accountability....this argument begins and ends with personal accountability.

Only if you can't see in shades of grey.

How is it someone else's fault what you put in your mouth? We have free will, no one is forcing to you eat anything.

How is it a North Korean's fault they think Americans are 8 foot tall baby raping monsters?

Yeah, that's not even moderately similar.

There are people who blame everyone else for their health issues and there are people who chose to do something about it. Your government hasn't put you on some nutritional moratorium where you're FORCED to eat horrible foods every day and not move. The fact is, tons of people are in shape or at the very least, not fat, which proves that it's possible. There are options and we have every choice under the rainbow--the crux of our capitalistic society is choice, unlike that ridiculous analogy where people have no choice at all.

Brainwashing is brainwashing. Have you tuned into Nickelodeon or the Disney channel lately?

Whatever dude. You of all people should be against saving people from themselves. Just because your kid see's something on tv, doesnt mean you have to let them have it.

My uncles kid was born diabetic. He and his sister do not get unhealthy junk food, ever. They see it on TV all the time, but they dont cry and beg for it. Why? Because they were taught correctly from a young age.

Any parent with an obese kid should be shot in the face. Theres no reason for it.

Yes, and everyone else who is not fat also grew up on cartoons.

NK has no other options. We have every option under the sun. Stop blaming everyone else for your choices, nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you drink coke at every meal the way people in NK are shot for not wearing a Dear Leader pin every day. Not even close.

I'd be more than willing to agree with your argument if you were rallying against new laws and government control, but that's not what I'm debating in favor of.

All I'm debating for is an end to corn subsidies and an effort to reverse America's fast food culture.

What is so great about leaving the food system as is?

Yes thank you, I was aware of all that. There are varying levels of brainwashing, or whatever you want to call it.