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Kaneman 06-09-2010 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 381493)
Negative. What military were you in? The Army has random drug testing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, I'm saying that it is "unacceptable" and against regulations. I also don't think that it will be acceptable in several industries for the same reasons that it isn't now. I don't want to be 30 stories up with some drug addict and I doubt that insurance companies are going to pay accident claims or worker's comp to dope users whether the actual substance is legal or not. Some jobs just simply shouldn't mix with drugs or alcohol, military, law enforcement, construction, material handling, medical, fire/rescue, government service, etc. Say what you will but I think that companies have a right not to higher or keep drug addicts on the pay roll. If they explain their drug policy up front, you should have nothing to say after the fact.:idk:
You're totally right dude, military guys and gals never get drunk. And they especially never get pissed drunk.

My bad.

:lol:

t-homo 06-09-2010 10:30 PM
In all honesty, there will be more people who smoke at work than drink at work, but they all already do it anyway. People are typically smart enough to know if they can't smoke at/before work.

goof2 06-09-2010 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 381493)
I also don't think that it will be acceptable in several industries for the same reasons that it isn't now. I don't want to be 30 stories up with some drug addict and I doubt that insurance companies are going to pay accident claims or worker's comp to dope users whether the actual substance is legal or not. Some jobs just simply shouldn't mix with drugs or alcohol, military, law enforcement, construction, material handling, medical, fire/rescue, government service, etc. Say what you will but I think that companies have a right not to higher or keep drug addicts on the pay roll. If they explain their drug policy up front, you should have nothing to say after the fact.:idk:
I share the same basic belief about what effect legalization will have on the acceptance by employers of off the clock marijuana use by their employees (basically no effect). Until a test is developed that accurately measures marijuana intoxication I don't see its use becoming any more acceptable.

The one thing I do take issue with is the "drug addicts" classification. There are plenty of people who smoke marijuana that are not addicted (many say none of them are). It is no different than the overwhelming majority of those who drink alcohol not being alcoholics.

Kaneman 06-09-2010 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 381510)
I share the same basic belief about what effect legalization will have on the acceptance by employers of off the clock marijuana use by their employees (basically no effect). Until a test is developed that accurately measures marijuana intoxication I don't see its use becoming any more acceptable.

The one thing I do take issue with is the "drug addicts" classification. There are plenty of people who smoke marijuana that are not addicted (many say none of them are). It is no different than the overwhelming majority of those who drink alcohol not being alcoholics.
Or those who ride motorcycles but aren't adrenaline junkies.

Once the stigma that 70 years of brainwashing causes wears off, the types of policies that discriminate against marijuana users will go away.

goof2 06-09-2010 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 381511)
Or those who ride motorcycles but aren't adrenaline junkies.

Once the stigma that 70 years of brainwashing causes wears off, the types of policies that discriminate against marijuana users will go away.
I don't view it as discrimination. I don't care what happens I don't see employers allowing marijuana intoxication at work. Since I don't believe a reliable test for intoxication is available the remaining option is to test for use. Until a reliable intoxication test is developed it means tough titties for weed smokers.

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Kaneman 06-09-2010 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 381528)
I don't view it as discrimination. I don't care what happens I don't see employers allowing marijuana intoxication at work. Since I don't believe a reliable test for intoxication is available the remaining option is to test for use. Until a reliable intoxication test is developed it means tough titties for weed smokers.
Nah, it just means kits to pass drug tests will be even better than they are now.

t-homo 06-09-2010 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 381532)
Nah, it just means kits to pass drug tests will be even better than they are now.
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Smittie61984 06-09-2010 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 381511)
Once the stigma that 70 years of brainwashing causes wears off, the types of policies that discriminate against marijuana users will go away.
I don't think that 100 years ago families got together to celebrate their kid graduating college by passing a joint around vs the family doing a toast with some alcohol. Even with it legalized I still doubt you'll go to a company party and see a bar with the option of getting a beer, glass of wine, or some chronic. I doubt any drug will ever be as accepted socially as alcohol.

Regardless wether pot or any drug is legalized the employer should be allowed to set a drug policy. If you get hired by a company and they have a drug policy then you fail then you shoudl be fired and kiss your unemployment goodbye.

goof2 06-09-2010 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 381532)
Nah, it just means kits to pass drug tests will be even better than they are now.
Neither version, this one or mine includes employers getting rid of bans against, testing for, or "the stigma that 70 years of brainwashing causes" where marijuana is concerned.


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