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fnfalman 05-24-2008 03:01 PM

Aprilia RS125 two-stroker coming to America
 
Yep. 2009. And no, it ain't cheap at around $6000 a pop, and yes, you can get a Ninja 250 for a lot cheaper, but if you want unadulterated fun, she be it.:rockout:http://www.maxmoto.co.uk/images/Apri...ains%20No1.jpg

t-homo 05-24-2008 03:10 PM

Damn. That thing looks fuckin sick. Going to get one of those too?

marko138 05-24-2008 05:12 PM

Incredible.

Mr Lefty 05-24-2008 09:27 PM

how are they getting that through emissions? thought that was the issue... that 2strokes don't run clean enough to pass us emissions?

Phenix_Rider 05-24-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 45753)
how are they getting that through emissions? thought that was the issue... that 2strokes don't run clean enough to pass us emissions?

I've heard rumors that a few new ones pass Euro III emissions, just not CA. Is this thing street legal here? Would be nice to see someone next to it for scale...

ceo012384 05-24-2008 11:32 PM

Why would you even mention the ninja 250 in the same sentence as that thing?

Hellooooooo track day machine. Awesome.

Dave 05-25-2008 01:54 AM

looks like they have adapted direct injection to the two stroke. plusses include clean burning and no more oil mixing!

Amber Lamps 05-25-2008 03:13 AM

Can a 250 be far behind? BTW I've heard of people paying $5000 otd for a Ninja 250 so that's not too bad! Besides,it wouldn't suprise me if this bike weighs 50-100 lbs less than the baby Ninja but still puts out about the same hp! Not to mention Aprilia-typical top shelf components,shock,brakes,wheels,forks,etc.

ceo012384 05-25-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 45771)
Can a 250 be far behind? BTW I've heard of people paying $5000 otd for a Ninja 250 so that's not too bad! Besides,it wouldn't suprise me if this bike weighs 50-100 lbs less than the baby Ninja but still puts out about the same hp! Not to mention Aprilia-typical top shelf components,shock,brakes,wheels,forks,etc.

I have the $1k difference right here: inverted forks, braided lines, and look at that beefy 4-pot caliper. Then look at the ninja.

RS125 FTW.

jalaan1 05-25-2008 11:44 PM

man, that thing looks great.

is that next on the list for ya fnfalman? :whistle:

Amber Lamps 05-26-2008 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384 (Post 45825)
I have the $1k difference right here: inverted forks, braided lines, and look at that beefy 4-pot caliper. Then look at the ninja.

RS125 FTW.


I'm waiting for that RS250+ Oh my God,it would be like going back in time to my RZ350 days!!!

fnfalman 05-26-2008 02:01 AM

It's going to be imported as "offroad" vehicle only. However it does have lights and turn signals therefore certain states (i.e. Texas and New Mexico) will allow it to be registered.

I was thinking about a Husky supermoto next year, but I think that I've found me new luv!!!

The AF1 Racing dudes just had a track day with Aprilia USA on them and they said that those things are utterly sick on the track. Top out barely 100-MPH, but cornering is blazingly fast.

Dave 05-26-2008 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384 (Post 45825)
I have the $1k difference right here: inverted forks, braided lines, and look at that beefy 4-pot caliper. Then look at the ninja.

RS125 FTW.

arent those carrozzeria wheels as well?

Amber Lamps 05-26-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 45851)
arent those carrozzeria wheels as well?

I think so too,that's why I mentioned wheels...it's incredibly easy to see where the extra money went!

upshift 06-15-2008 10:13 AM

We need those over here! Everyone around here would be saying "what 250?" :lol:

Gunther1000 07-15-2008 03:23 PM

Well, Here is what I'm planning. New 08 ninja 250 minus motor. Place new motor on ebay. Promptly score 350 Banshee twin 2-stroke. Replace in new chassis and enjoy! All and I mean ALL part will be just a dealership trip away. And with the new 08's being used here shortly I should be able to score them hand over fist for $3500... Maybe even with aftermarket pipes and such to sell also. I have been 2-stroke dreaming for 5 years and im just fucking tired of looking to the UK to try and smuggle a shit bike for top dollar into the US. Time to go new and local! Suck it.

Rider 07-15-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunther1000 (Post 55785)
Well, Here is what I'm planning. New 08 ninja 250 minus motor. Place new motor on ebay. Promptly score 350 Banshee twin 2-stroke. Replace in new chassis and enjoy! All and I mean ALL part will be just a dealership trip away. And with the new 08's being used here shortly I should be able to score them hand over fist for $3500... Maybe even with aftermarket pipes and such to sell also. I have been 2-stroke dreaming for 5 years and im just fucking tired of looking to the UK to try and smuggle a shit bike for top dollar into the US. Time to go new and local! Suck it.

Dude, that would be a pretty damn fast bike. You might have to put a 180 or 190 tire on the back. Plus are you going to be able to fit the dual pipes under the fairing? Those expansion chambers are big. You might have to do some serious moding. How are you going to access the air filter without taking the engine out? The air box is not in the same location as the ninja250.

Dnyce 07-15-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunther1000 (Post 55785)
Well, Here is what I'm planning. New 08 ninja 250 minus motor. Place new motor on ebay. Promptly score 350 Banshee twin 2-stroke. Replace in new chassis and enjoy! All and I mean ALL part will be just a dealership trip away. And with the new 08's being used here shortly I should be able to score them hand over fist for $3500... Maybe even with aftermarket pipes and such to sell also. I have been 2-stroke dreaming for 5 years and im just fucking tired of looking to the UK to try and smuggle a shit bike for top dollar into the US. Time to go new and local! Suck it.

coulda built this in 5yrs lol-2stroke kawi triple

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/h2.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/h21.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/h22.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/h23.jpg

your idea sounds cool tho, kinda like a sleeper 250. gd luck:dthumb:

JK 07-15-2008 09:30 PM

yikes, niiiice Kawi Trip

Dave 07-15-2008 09:57 PM

that thing is piiiiiimp

fnfalman 07-16-2008 02:08 PM

That's a badass Purple People Eater.:rockwoot:

BobTheBiker 07-16-2008 04:08 PM

The kawi 250 is and always will be a POS bike until they really redo the frame. over 20 years, and they've still got the same cruiser frame in that bike.

IMO, not worth doing anything to that. even the EX500 frame is crap really. go with a GS500 setup, much easier and more sturdy.

r!der 07-16-2008 05:18 PM

:drool: I want one!

DLIT 07-16-2008 05:35 PM

I'm fucking getting one. Is it FI?

fnfalman 07-23-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT (Post 55997)
I'm fucking getting one. Is it FI?

I think that it's suppose to be fuel injected. But hold your horses. Supposedly DOT is giving Aprilia a fit right now.

Gunther1000 08-06-2008 12:43 PM

Wow, Do you still have the Kawi? I have heard bad things about there weak bottom end but what the hell who cares! I bet that thing sounds Great! I believe the pipes wont be a large issue with the 250. There are a number of ways to run them. Airbox, Not a problem either. Look at that Kawi and you get the idea...

Frame? POS? news to me. If bracing is needed so be it. That bridge will be crossed with the TIG welder in hand. I'm not going to pay $14,000 for a bike untill it can run with my 1000 on the E-way and twistys not one or the other.

I think if a guy could get it down there would be plenty of people like us looking to buy a spare track bike that doesnt cost you a second note on the house.

BobTheBiker 08-06-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther1000 (Post 61417)
Wow, Do you still have the Kawi? I have heard bad things about there weak bottom end but what the hell who cares! I bet that thing sounds Great! I believe the pipes wont be a large issue with the 250. There are a number of ways to run them. Airbox, Not a problem either. Look at that Kawi and you get the idea...

Frame? POS? news to me. If bracing is needed so be it. That bridge will be crossed with the TIG welder in hand. I'm not going to pay $14,000 for a bike untill it can run with my 1000 on the E-way and twistys not one or the other.

the EX250 and 500's use steel frames that are heavy, but not very strong compared to the competition. the problem is pure and simple, the EX250 frame is simply a cheap frame. add to that its a royal bitch to work on em. I've done motor swaps in an EX250, and frankly, changing a motor is easier than changing the plugs to me. no amound of welding is gonna improve the 250 frame like a whole different frame will.

http://pinwallcycle.com/ebay/bike665/349.jpg
the EX500 isnt any better, until you spend lots of money on frame gusseting and some kind of better subframe to lighten it.

Take a look at the GS500's frames. this is the frame you'll want to go with for a rock solid base.
http://pinwallcycle.com/ebay/bike761/293.jpg

I wouldnt know about the bottom ends on them.

smileyman 08-06-2008 03:39 PM

I love the Aprilia and it would be a cool street play bike, fun for track days, but for the money I would buy 2 Ninja 250's and race a buddy. If you have to be slow might as well have company and it would make for some tight racing fun!

With an unlimited budget ($15000) i want one of those 450 four stroke motocross to roadracer conversions that Roland Sands is building!

Gunther1000 08-12-2008 11:07 AM

Hum... looks like a guy could cut off the rear sub on that gs500 and maybe find a removable bolt on replacement. I like it! Thanks for the info. Now to find bodywork that will fit. But race plastics could be a good way to go.

Gunther1000 08-12-2008 12:58 PM

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You know after taking a long look at the GS it could work! And I'm inclined to lean over to the Suzuki side anyway! That rear would have to go and the seat of course... Do you think the rake is a little out there? Maybe a different front and trees would help that. The bars would have to go but the tank looks pretty good!

BobTheBiker 08-12-2008 03:30 PM

modification and a 636 front end fixes the look greatly. stock GS suspension HAS TO GO. otherwise, its a great bike. the GS500 E and F are exactly the same, except for the carburetors and bodywork addition, plus an oil cooler on the F models.

I've got a whole GS frame here that I want to get rid of, no suspension or motor, nor bodywork. want it?

Gunther1000 08-12-2008 03:33 PM

For free! Sure! thanks man! need my address?

I'll pay the freight.

Sounds like a nice little project to me.

BobTheBiker 08-12-2008 05:24 PM

only thing is I'm way too lazy to ship it. plus where I am I dont have a car nor pallet.

JK 08-12-2008 05:54 PM

the GS can look nice, just keep the frame black

BobTheBiker 08-12-2008 06:00 PM

pfft I painted my frame RED. if I can get a title for it, my EX engine and front end is going in that bitch.

Gunther1000 08-14-2008 02:51 PM

bob you got any sportier pics of a complete gs? Im kinda curious now...

Its just so tempting to take an 08 250 that looks the part already and run a new motor (2-stroke) in that little freak. Maybe even KTM 300 electric start...

BobTheBiker 08-14-2008 03:20 PM

check out the GS500F, current production model on Suzuki's site. they're pretty sporty looking to me. I understand that the fairings from an F series can also be put on an E version without problems. they just need something like the GSXR tail on there to really clean things up a bit.

my frame has no title, but its for sale at this point. I just need the cash for a 250 swingarm conversion on my 500.

Gunther1000 08-14-2008 07:51 PM

Well, I have a new suit waiting on my in Knoxville or I would be all over that. Give me some time to put things back on track and if you still have it we will revisit this frame idea. I'm not going to stop till I have had my fill of 2-stroke street bikes. Even if building one or two drives me insane.

Thanks man, Its nice to open my mind up to another way of thinking frame wise. And its A suzuki! a j23 Lucky strike (newer RS250 style) would be my dream bike if I could find one, but I have give up on that way of thinking. Its build time Brother!

BobTheBiker 08-14-2008 08:53 PM

I'll probably be keepin it, in the meantime I'm working on acquiring a title for it so it can be used for street purposes instead of strictly track. gonna be a PITA, but hey, I got time. just let me know when ya want it and we'll work out a deal. hell I'd like to get rid of it, so probably anything over $50 but less than 100 would get it, plus freight of course. I found pallets near my place, just gotta go fetch one.

Gunther1000 08-15-2008 12:07 PM

Cool man. Do you think a RS250 swing arm would be able to mount up to that bad boy with proper spacers?

BobTheBiker 08-15-2008 12:46 PM

I think its actually been done, so yes. I see no reason it cant be done.


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