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Porkchop 01-30-2010 01:40 AM

Obama and the BCS
 
Obama could be feeding the poor, or fixing the economy.... but he would rather fix college football. HE IS THE FUCKING MAN!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4870657

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is considering several steps that would review the legality of the controversial Bowl Championship Series, the Justice Department said in a letter Friday to a senator who had asked for an antitrust review.

In the letter to Sen. Orrin Hatch, obtained by The Associated Press, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote that the Justice Department is reviewing Hatch's request and other materials to determine whether to open an investigation into whether the BCS violates antitrust laws.

"Importantly, and in addition, the administration also is exploring other options that might be available to address concerns with the college football postseason," Weich wrote, including asking the Federal Trade Commission to review the legality of the BCS under consumer protection laws.

Several lawmakers and many critics want the BCS to switch to a playoff system, rather than the ratings system it uses to determine the teams that play in the championship game.

"The administration shares your belief that the current lack of a college football national championship playoff with respect to the highest division of college football ... raises important questions affecting millions of fans, colleges and universities, players and other interested parties," Weich wrote.

Weich made note of the fact that President Barack Obama, before he was sworn in, had stated his preference for a playoff system. In 2008, Obama said he was going to "to throw my weight around a little bit" to nudge college football toward a playoff system, a point that Hatch stressed when he urged Obama last fall to ask the department to investigate the BCS.

Weich said that other options include encouraging the NCAA to take control of the college football postseason; asking a governmental or non-governmental commission to review the costs, benefits and feasibility of a playoff system; and legislative efforts aimed at prompting a switch to a playoff system.

Weich noted that several undefeated teams have not had a chance to play for the national championship, including TCU and Boise State this year and Utah last year.

"This seemingly discriminatory action with regard to revenues and access have raised questions regarding whether the BCS potentially runs afoul of the nation's antitrust laws," he wrote.

Hatch, a Utah Republican, was steamed that his home state team was deprived of getting a chance to play for the title last year.

"I'm encouraged by the administration's response," he said in a statement. "I continue to believe there are antitrust issues the administration should explore, but I'm heartened by its willingness to consider alternative approaches to confront the tremendous inequities in the BCS that favor one set of schools over others. The current system runs counter to basic fairness that every family tries to instill in their children from the day they are born."

Under the BCS, the champions of six conference have automatic bids to play in top-tier bowl games, while the other conferences don't. Those six conferences also receive more money than the other conferences, although the BCS announced this week that the ones that don't have automatic bids will receive a record $24 million from this year's bowl games.

"This letter is nothing new and if the Justice Department thought there was a case to be made, they likely would have made it already," BCS executive director Bill Hancock said in a released statement.

"There is much less to this letter than meets the eye. The White House knows that with all the serious issues facing the country, the last thing they should do is increase the deficit by spending money to investigate how the college football playoffs are played," the statement continued. "With all due respect to Senator Hatch, he is overstating this importance of the letter he received from the Office of Legislative Affairs."

fnfalman 01-30-2010 02:22 AM

The One is a rock star. So get used to it. Fuck the poor! Fuck the misfortuned! Fuck world peace! Fuck democracy! But by golly, The One will get involved in college basketball, drink beer with cop and home boy, watch MTV and comment on Kanye West/Taylor Swift.

BobTheBiker 01-30-2010 02:27 AM

I never thought I'd say it, but I want bush back. obama so far has earned the title of worthless pile of shit to me.

pauldun170 01-30-2010 02:37 AM

Hatch sent a complaint to the Justice department and they responded that they are checking it out.

I personally like the last line if the article
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"With all due respect to Senator Hatch, he is overstating this importance of the letter he received from the Office of Legislative Affairs."

Homeslice 01-30-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheBiker (Post 327538)
I never thought I'd say it, but I want bush back.

Ah, you mean someone who was on vacation half the time, didn't have the vitality to multi-task as well as Obama, and would rather keep everything secret instead of facing the public

BobTheBiker 01-30-2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 327547)
Ah, you mean someone who was on vacation half the time, didn't have the vitality to multi-task as well as Obama, and would rather keep everything secret instead of facing the public

pretty much. at least bush's racket was war, more or less. I like wars.

obama, well he just pisses me off. I'm trying not to use the N word, but honestly I feel he deserves to be called it.

Captain Morgan 01-30-2010 08:50 AM

Ah, so here is one of the "new" ideas Avatard was talking about. This will help our country tremendously! Obama is apparently the best president ever. :lol:

karl_1052 01-30-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheBiker (Post 327551)
pretty much. at least bush's racket was war, more or less. I like wars.

obama, well he just pisses me off. I'm trying not to use the N word, but honestly I feel he deserves to be called it.

Newby?
Neophyte?
Normal?
New?
Cause to call him what you want to call him, just for being a poor president is taking it way too far, and shows just how much sun you get on the back of your neck.
Name a president that has done anything significantly good in the last 4 terms.

Obama has done one great thing so far, he kept Palin out.

Dave 01-30-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 327564)
Newby?
Neophyte?
Normal?
New?
Cause to call him what you want to call him, just for being a poor president is taking it way too far, and shows just how much sun you get on the back of your neck.
Name a president that has done anything significantly good in the last 4 terms.

Obama has done one great thing so far, he kept Palin out.

narcissist

tommymac 01-30-2010 09:27 AM

Think of all the college football analysists he will put out of work if hge resolves this controversey. They wont have anything to talk about and will be let go :lol:

t-homo 01-30-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobTheBiker (Post 327551)
pretty much. at least bush's racket was war, more or less. I like wars.

obama, well he just pisses me off. I'm trying not to use the N word, but honestly I feel he deserves to be called it.

Are you afraid to use the word "nigger" even if you aren't directing it at anyone? You sound like a 12 year old saying "N-word"

goof2 01-30-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 327564)
Obama has done one great thing so far, he kept Palin out.

He did, but you have to give credit to Bush for keeping Edwards out.:td:

Kaneman 01-30-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobTheBiker (Post 327551)
pretty much. at least bush's racket was war, more or less. I like wars.

obama, well he just pisses me off. I'm trying not to use the N word, but honestly I feel he deserves to be called it.

Wow. The more time goes on the more we see some of the real reasons people hate this President so much.

marko138 01-30-2010 11:56 AM

He's getting something done that the people care about. Forget healthcare and the economy...if we have to keep on with this BCS shit the country will fall to pieces.

t-homo 01-30-2010 12:22 PM

I'd love to see the BCS go over to a playoff system, but this isn't something the president should be worried about.

Porkchop 01-30-2010 12:24 PM

Hey, i voted for the old coot.... but America hasn't spontaneously combusted yet. So Im good for now.

fnfalman 01-30-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 327547)
Ah, you mean someone who was on vacation half the time, didn't have the vitality to multi-task as well as Obama, and would rather keep everything secret instead of facing the public

I must admit that Bush can't multi-task as well as Obama: going to Europe to accept undeserved Nobel award while paying enough attention to the social scene to comment on Kanye West's faux pas. Obama is a bad mamajama when it comes to multi-tasking.

Too bad he can't seem to multi-task about bringing real peace and freedom to the Iraquis and kicking Al Queda/Taliban asses in Afghanistan at the same time.

EpyonXero 01-30-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 327616)
Wow. The more time goes on the more we see some of the real reasons people hate this President so much.

Pretty much.

karl_1052 01-30-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 327666)
Too bad he can't seem to multi-task about bringing real peace and freedom to the Iraquis and kicking Al Queda/Taliban asses in Afghanistan at the same time.

Neither could Bush

Porkchop 01-30-2010 04:23 PM

Haha.... this turned into War Room material people. It was supposed to be about the football!! Awsomez.

Who wants a playoff??? Who likes the Bowls??? I myself would like to see a melding of the 2 options....

http://deadon.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/football.jpg

dReWpY 01-30-2010 05:09 PM

personally i like the bowl system, it makes the smaller schools that goto the smaller bowls have a shot, like middle tn and the bowl game we won, it was great around this campus

tommymac 01-30-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 327701)
personally i like the bowl system, it makes the smaller schools that goto the smaller bowls have a shot, like middle tn and the bowl game we won, it was great around this campus

I think those are the schoosl that would get hurt more. They get some much needed cash fo rgoing to a bowl game and it helps in recruiting. If they do an 8 or 16 team playoff that will prety much eliminate all the bowl games and hurt the smaller schools or programs that are trying to build them selves up.

dReWpY 01-30-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 327702)
I think those are the schoosl that would get hurt more. They get some much needed cash fo rgoing to a bowl game and it helps in recruiting. If they do an 8 or 16 team playoff that will prety much eliminate all the bowl games and hurt the smaller schools or programs that are trying to build them selves up.

agreed, we go alot of money and credibility for going to NO this year

tommymac 01-30-2010 05:15 PM

I dont think there will ever be a playoff because of all the money these bowl games generate. All the bcs bowl bound schools get a shitload of money even if they arent playing for the title so why give that up.

then this year schools like cincinati, tcu and boise go to major bowls and got a ridiculous payday so it give the other lesser programs more incentive to try to get into the bcs games.

goof2 01-30-2010 06:18 PM

I don't see why a playoff system would eliminate the other bowls. Sure, the other bowls would be meaningless compared to the playoffs, but they are meaningless now compared to the national championship.

marko138 01-30-2010 06:25 PM

I don't give a shit about Middle TN or their stupid bowl. Fuck 'em.

t-homo 01-30-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 327719)
I don't give a shit about Middle TN or their stupid bowl. Fuck 'em.

No one gives a shit about you or your school so fuck you.

nhgunnut 01-30-2010 07:54 PM

There are so many good reasons to hate Obama .. (His pattern of Betrayal for instance) His Race (or Races) or his interest in football are none of them.

fnfalman 01-30-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 327678)
Neither could Bush

Bush had an excuse - he was a fucking idiot.

What's Obama's excuse?

marko138 01-30-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 327724)
No one gives a shit about you or your school so fuck you.

Thats exactly what I'm saying, fool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 327756)
Bush had an excuse - he was a fucking idiot.

What's Obama's excuse?

No doubt, fella.

t-homo 01-31-2010 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 327766)
Thats exactly what I'm saying, fool.



No doubt, fella.

I wasn't agreeing with you.

karl_1052 01-31-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 327756)
Bush had an excuse - he was a fucking idiot.

What's Obama's excuse?

Show me a current politician that isn't, according to the people.

marko138 02-01-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 327821)
I wasn't agreeing with you.

I know, you were being a total dick licker, as usual. :gofurslf:

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:04 AM

It's about time. Damn.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328174)
It's about time. Damn.

It's about time for you to get on outta here.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:08 AM

I do what I want.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328190)
I do what I want.

Incorrect. I can send you packing before your next post.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:12 AM

I've already been banned once within the past week.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328198)
I've already been banned once within the past week.

Looking for twice?

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:20 AM

Not necessarily.

You lookin for 13K today?

marko138 02-01-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328209)
Not necessarily.

You lookin for 13K today?

Absolutely. Only 65 away. And absolutely nothing on the schedule.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:25 AM

hahaha good shit. I have to run to the head shop to pick up a birthday present for my sister, and class at 2, but other than that my monday is open.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328225)
hahaha good shit. I have to run to the head shop to pick up a birthday present for my sister, and class at 2, but other than that my monday is open.

Game on. Unlike the BCS.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:31 AM

You had 11 posts in the last 10 minutes. You may hit 14K today.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328235)
You had 11 posts in the last 10 minutes. You may hit 14K today.

I might post so many goddamn posts that this forum melts down.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 328240)
I might post so many goddamn posts that this forum melts down.

I think you will have to take some tips from old school Gas man for that.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328242)
I think you will have to take some tips from old school Gas man for that.

Please, I taught him everything he knows.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 328246)
Please, I taught him everything he knows.

Talk about callin someone out. Where are your 35,000 at, bitch? lol

marko138 02-01-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328248)
Talk about callin someone out. Where are your 35,000 at, bitch? lol

I had 24,000+ posts at the old house. How many did you have?

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:49 AM

Oh yeah, haha. I really don't remember. Not a ton.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328268)
Oh yeah, haha. I really don't remember. Not a ton.

Sit the fuck down, kid.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:53 AM

I wish I could go back and look. I am pretty sure the perma-ban is still in place though.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328277)
I wish I could go back and look. I am pretty sure the perma-ban is still in place though.

Don't log in.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:55 AM

2,149. How sad. I had to search for my name. It was funny that half of the people in a thread old enough for me to have posted in were banned.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328281)
2,149. How sad. I had to search for my name. It was funny that half of the people in a thread old enough for me to have posted in were banned.

2149? Sad.

t-homo 02-01-2010 10:57 AM

I was a noob back then.

marko138 02-01-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328287)
I was a noob back then.

Still a newb.

t-homo 02-01-2010 11:01 AM

Knew that was coming.

marko138 02-01-2010 11:02 AM

Man, it's 11am already. I've been at work for 2 hours.

t-homo 02-01-2010 11:06 AM

You're welcome. It's only 10 here. I need to peace out for probably an hour though.

marko138 02-01-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 328302)
You're welcome. It's only 10 here. I need to peace out for probably an hour though.

Weak.

Smittie61984 02-01-2010 04:55 PM

I heard this on the radio today and thought it was a joke.

But thank god/allah/darwin/whomever that our federal government is on the important issues. Despite I don't follow sports and wouldn't give a shit if a daisy cutter went off in every college stadium in the US during whatever bowl fucking game they have. I'm glad that I can finally sleep at night and not have to worry about terrorism, the economy, or our government becoming more intrusive into our lives.

marko138 02-01-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 328776)
I heard this on the radio today and thought it was a joke.

But thank god/allah/darwin/whomever that our federal government is on the important issues. Despite I don't follow sports and wouldn't give a shit if a daisy cutter went off in every college stadium in the US during whatever bowl fucking game they have. I'm glad that I can finally sleep at night and not have to worry about terrorism, the economy, or our government becoming more intrusive into our lives.

Rest assured we are working on a good system for college football. Forget all that other dumb stuff.

Smittie61984 02-02-2010 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 328777)
Rest assured we are working on a good system for college football. Forget all that other dumb stuff.

Sweet. I can rest assured now. Of course if the government is going to try and help out the colleges then why not focus on their fucked up government education system?

Also why is the government worried about college bowls? I'm trying to figure out how the federal government has any say in it other than the commerce clause since they go state to state.

tommymac 02-02-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 329043)
Sweet. I can rest assured now. Of course if the government is going to try and help out the colleges then why not focus on their fucked up government education system?

Also why is the government worried about college bowls? I'm trying to figure out how the federal government has any say in it other than the commerce clause since they go state to state.

They prolly get a cut of all the money they rack in for these bowl games.

marko138 02-02-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 329043)
Sweet. I can rest assured now. Of course if the government is going to try and help out the colleges then why not focus on their fucked up government education system?

Also why is the government worried about college bowls? I'm trying to figure out how the federal government has any say in it other than the commerce clause since they go state to state.

Same reason they are interested in baseball, and football, and basketball. Because stuff that matters is difficult.

z06boy 02-02-2010 10:27 AM

I wish they would drop the BCS in lieu of a playoff but I am surprised to see Obama get involved with it. :scratch:

marko138 02-02-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 329328)
I wish they would drop the BCS in lieu of a playoff but I am surprised to see Obama get involved with it. :scratch:

Well he was doing commentary at the Georgetown bball game this weekend...why be surprised about this?

tommymac 02-02-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 329328)
I wish they would drop the BCS in lieu of a playoff but I am surprised to see Obama get involved with it. :scratch:

He needs to do something to boost his approval rating. That healthcare bill and the economy sure aint doing it :lol:


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