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CA Declares State of Fiscal Emergency...
Still a 19 billion shortfall with no way to pay after 1/1/11.....fuckin liberals...
http://nation.foxnews.com/california...tate-emergency Schwarzenegger Declares Fiscal State of Emergency California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency over the state's finances on Wednesday, raising pressure on lawmakers to negotiate a state budget that is more than a month overdue and will need to close a $19 billion shortfall. The deficit is 22 percent of the $85 billion general fund budget the governor signed last July for the fiscal year that ended in June, highlighting how the steep drop in California's revenue due to recession, the housing slump, financial market turmoil and high unemployment have slashed its all-important personal income tax collection. In the declaration, Schwarzenegger ordered three days off without pay per month beginning in August for tens of thousands of state employees to preserve the state's cash to pay its debt, and for essential services. |
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One big ass earthquake. Problem solved. |
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Yeah, the Liberals did it. |
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101 is like the fucktard in every group that's the first to yell "WITCH!!" only his witch is "liberals". It's like a reflex. It's pretty funny. He's not the sharpest cat out there, so you gotta wonder...who programmed this guy? He goes off rather predictably, and it seems to be a reflex. Who programmed you, 101? Is your dad Rush Limbaugh or something? |
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Christie isn't saving us from anything. The moves he's making now will be crippling this state in the years to come.
I'm moving, dude. Jersey is a shithole anymore (politically, and economically), and fattie boy's only making it suck harder. He's a serious fuckup. Wait and see what his moves bring. |
What everyone here in Short Attention Span Theater seems to miss is that the majority of what these idiots do often doesn't become apparent until years after they've been voted out (and they're usually voted out rather angrily over something that essentially was caused by their predecessor, ironically enough).
I love politics. |
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Talk about legacy... |
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Just saying.... |
Nah man, that's not fair. I don't do that.
I blame shit on Conservatives that they do outright. I regularly point them out here, and even provide links. I don't ever need to be "reaching". I don't ascribe all ills to them, like a crazed guy on a witch hunt...that's 101, not me. Nice try. |
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The irony here is that a return to a true Republican platform is actually far closer to a Libertarian one, one that I personally favor. It's just that the Republicans say one thing, and do another. All politicians are hypocrites. However, the Republicans for a while now have made it into a true fucking art form. |
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Ok, I think I know what part of that you have a problem with, and I think I understand why...but do tell me, as I think I may have an answer (or, I could be completely wrong).
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The entire CA legislation is liberal, who constantly keeps giving more and more to teachers, cops, fireman unions, every other pet peeve project that comes along and most of all illegals get everything they want. They make the budget each year and every year it goes way over. And the worst part? They don't get it nor will they change. Imagine an entire legislation full of Nancy Pelosi's where money grows on trees. It's fucking pathetic. They control the money and taxation, so they are to blame. This also just didn't start after the recession, it was a long time in the making. Look at Texas, who predominately has conservatives in power. Don't see them as broke...and we have more industry here in CA then in TX. |
Someone needs to take a close freaking look at all the programs that pay out stupid amounts of money in that state and all the money that gets spent on legislation.
People in CA want that shit? Make 'em pay for it. |
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I don't even wanna get into the abused food stamps. When you keep giving to these people, you keep getting their vote. And the cycle continues.....a liberal legislation and govenor. |
Well, the Hollywood types seem to be very much in favor of higher taxes for the wealthy... Why not a 25% increase on any income over $2mil or something?
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You know, the Republicans spend my fucking grandchildren's money (MANY Billions) on totally invented wars against countries that never attacked us, and then they whine about paying mere pennies (by comparison) to Mexicans and Blacks on public assistance - it's just a ploy, a misdirection, (it's racist) and it's old.
Also, there's more white people on assistance, if I'm not mistaken, so the Republicans can put away their white pointy hats, and give that fucking tune a rest anyway. The Republican strategy is blame the poor. Not really a surprise when you're the party of the rich (and the stupid poor who think the Republicans care about abortion and gays, and Jeebus). |
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I said I didn't really know the politics of the state, were you here for that part?
Anyway, I have no worldly fucking idea, however, I know the track record...that said, I still suspect that California's problems are multi-faceted and there's probably no one group, person, entity, or political party you could ascribe primary blame to...but again, I'm not a scholar of their politics. |
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Interesting. |
They just may be to blame, I can't really say. I don't know that much.
But, I'd just hazard to guess that a multi-cultural, major sea-port hub state, staffed in large part by migrant workers, and the center on much of the entire left coast's economic activity (and the center of the computer, music, and movie universes) might have unique economic needs and issues. No? Just sayin' I don't think it's as simple as "blame the liberals" [101's knee-jerk catch-all]. That's absurd. |
Calii has been sinking for years under Democratic leadership...They're so dumb, they let Enron shut off their power for f sake...They have local leader so corrupt, they didn't e even notice their paychecks were in the hundreds of thousands of dollars...
They have an action star for a Gov, and just re-elected the abysmal Barbara Boxer...You think Florida is dumb?...Cali holds the patent on stupidity...They get what they deserve... |
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It's funny, in a lot of ways we think the same about some of this shit... the libertarian mindset... But for some reason you take every opportunity to bash the Reps, but largely give the Dems a pass. Here we are in a thread about a state who's leadership has been failing them for decades and regardless of the fact that it has been run by Dem's since 1970, you make excuses to give them some sort of pass (or at least are avoiding condeming them). Seriously, I don't pretend to know a lot, or really much of anything about California politics, but this shit didn't happen over night and the people in charge have failed every step along the way... Regardless of what political system you subscribe to, you gotta be able to put the blame where it belongs. |
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The truth is, they're a bunch of rich fucking bankers (as proven by the current "hostage" situation). They say they're fiscally conservative, but then they spend like drunken sailors (spending the country's money, BTW, not theirs). I wouldn't say I give Dems a pass. They don't exactly flip my fucking skirt up either, because, as you said yourself, I am more Libertarian leaning than anything. Quote:
Perhaps the Federal government needs to send more money their way, because the state is just so pivotal to this country's survival and operation...much like NYC, and the surrounding areas in the East. |
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Either way I think it is a bit funny Avatard is complaining on one hand about how Republicans spend money we don't have like drunken sailors, but on the other hand is advocating spending money we don't have on California because that state can't be responsible.:shrug: |
I'm just saying that perhaps because of the scope of what California provides this country is so large, that perhaps its burdens have been greater, and the country may need to share in the effort. Think about all that California is the center of; computers, the movie AND music industries. A major west coast port and distribution center, as well as a huge agricultural industry. It also has a HUGE coastline, and a very high population density.
It is unique among states, and I would say that its problems in this downturn are probably understandably just as unique, Can't blame one group, or one thing. |
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And yep :lol: |
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And who put those same people in time and time again?...The dumb people/voters of Cal-ee-forn-ee-ah... Obviously, that great edumuhcation system isn't helping them make better decisions... |
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You can certainly believe what you want, but bou complain about Republicans spending like drunken sailors while ignoring the fact that Obama's deficits have been significantly larger, and this leads you to believe the Republicans are terrible. At the same time California's legislature has been spending like drunken sailors and this leads you to believe the federal government should give them more money we have to borrow from others. You are also willing to cut California (and the greater NY metro area) slack because of its complexity, size, and diversity while ignoring that the entire country is significantly more complex, large, and diverse. I understand what you are saying, but the position is still isn't sensible to me.:shrug: |
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I believe McCain would have probably been better for the budget, but I didn't vote for him for other reasons. |
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Comparing percentage of the population with high school diplomas, Floriduh is a not very good 34th with 85.9%, but California is even worse at 45th with 81.3% according to a report from the Census Bureau from 2004. When talking about post-secondary education California does do better than Floriduh for both bachelors degrees (29.4% vs. 25.4%) and advanced degrees (10.4% vs. 9.1%), but which is more relevant when comparing the total citizenry of states, the relative achievements of the minority or the relative performance of the majority? |
And did they include immigrants in those numbers?
Florida people are older and less likely to be an illegal, so their educational stats SHOULD be good. In fact they should be even better than they are. To make it apples-to-apples, take two US citizens, both the same age. I can guarantee the one from Cali will have spent more total time in school than the one in FL. |
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As for your assertion, maybe, but we don't know because it seems the US Dept. of Ed. takes each state as it is, not as you may want it to be.:shrug: |
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So, while the rest enjoys the spoils of what these great metropolises bring to the entire country, they perhaps have to realize as well that they're also the hardest hit areas in times of trouble. Just saying...Cali's problems are more complex than Podunk. I don't think you can just blame Liberals, that's fucking absurd. |
Blame CA bloated social programs. If you can't pay for them, you can't pay for them. People will make due, they have for at-least a few thousand years. Just means white people working in orchards instead of mexicans.
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1. Quit paying for social programs forever. It doesn't work. 2. Align retirement programs with the private sector. 3. Quit paying for illegal programs unless they are paying their fair share in taxes. 4. Balance the fucking budget. If you don't have it, people don't get it. Simple as that. There simple. |
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BTW California is just the most recent. Also becoming a State of Despair is Massachusetts for exactly the same reasons. |
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Don't be dense. Diverse confused you. Look it up.
I wasn't talking diverse races (god forbid, don't wanna scare the white folk). I was talking about diverse (and pivotal) roles those areas provide the rest of the country. In the many major industries they provide goods and services in support of the entire rest of the US. Like I said, in the case of California, we're talking about it be the CENTER of: Movie Industry Music Industry Computer Industry Agriculture Shipping and distribution (with an enormous coastline) |
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Music Industry - It can move to Kansas Computer Industry - It can move to Kansas Agriculture - The political party in power have never made this economical. In they cater to turning water off in parts of Central CA in lieu of diverting it for minows. |
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Do you guys even know what is here, besides LA and Hollywood?
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And what you're not getting (not that that might be something unique) is that all those industries that make money, and provide services in times of good, are also hit hardest in times of bad. Face it. The "USA" IS NYC [and surrounding areas] and California. Where YOU live is what's fucking completely irrelevant. Don't get your panties in a bunch. That's just the lay of the land, son. It's called "fly-over" territory. |
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There is something about every state in the union that's worth visiting. Avoiding a state because of its politics makes no sense. You're not voting, you're sight-seeing. Therefore I call BS on those who say there's nothing in CA they'd like to see. There's certainly more to see here than Rhode Island or Mississippi.
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Gotcha. |
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The best thing this state could do is elect a conservative legislation who: 1. Is actually conservative. 2. Cares about the air and water, but do not pass dumb ass worthless air control laws which only helps interest groups. 3. Who can quit paying for every Mexican's lifestyle just because they can and do spit out 5 kids. |
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I find it hilarious that you're all looking to me as some fucking oracle of wisdom on this, when I've already said, I don't know how many times already in this thread, that I know shit about Cali politics.
I just suggested it's a bit more complicated than that "it's all the liberals fault!" alarm 101 keeps fucking abusing. When it was suggested that "Podunk didn't get special consideration, why should Cali?" I tried to point out that Cali has a shit ton of important industries that didn't get a bailout, and that this may further complicate the matter. I don't really believe that the other states don't matter, but I don't believe that Cali should be treated the same as Podunk for all the reasons I stated. WTF is so hard for you people to grasp? |
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The current Republican track record doesn't suggest they'd be any thriftier. If they were in charge of CA, they'd probably blow a ton of money subsidizing defense and energy companies and kissing their ass. Plus they are all bark and no bite when it comes to the immigration problem. They're too busy protecting the industries that use that cheap labor.
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So what we have is two groups. One spends our money on social programs...for us. Another diverts our money to the rich. Both spend. Why not have the ones that at least spend our money on US? I fail to see what attracts anyone to the republican position who isn't a millionaire or billionaire. |
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Not only was it not withdrawn, but it was "improved" over that time. Any Republican who points to the Carter years as the origin of the problem, must also wear the problem, himself, for the 5 sessions during that time that the Republicans had both The House and The Senate. A ticking time-bomb, but no one fixed it? |
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Who's to say that with a meal to feed their family, the poor won't steal from you less...would this not also benefit YOU? |
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That's all I hear. Fucking bums wanting a free ride. |
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So, I ask you...if the Democrats to you equal only "share the wealth", and having that happen can only help raise life standards and education for all (thus you indirectly), why would you prefer the Republican alternative, which is ultimately to just make a tiny few millionaires (the richest 1%) and billionaires even richer? If Democrats only suggest "share the wealth" to you, then this at least keeps the overall distribution of wealth more equitable, and guarantees greater overall prosperity, peace, and quality of life. Why would you not prefer this? |
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- Enlightened self-interest - Charity .... but yes, it's "share the wealth" for the most part, in practical terms. Whether that's a good or a bad thing frequently depends upon your mindset. |
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You do realize that Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, et al are ALL amongst the "millionaires (the richest 1%)? They are EVERY bit as adept at accumulating and protecting their OWN wealth as any of the Republicans you demonize. Do you SERIOUSLY think that it will be a PENNY of THEIR money ponied up to fund these give aways? This is, and always has been, the problem with the Left....they live in this outright hypocritical world....selling the dream of a level playing field....of sharing the wealth....the problem, as Margaret Thatcher so eloquently pointed out, is that they will ALWAYS run out of other peoples money to give away. The field is not now, nor will it ever be equal....what they are selling, and you are buying hook line and sinker, is a dream. |
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If you need a handout, join the military and earn it. I know too many bums riding the government dollar and haven't done shit in there lives to deserve it. |
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I'd go all "gray" area on you but Gregman looks like he has it handled. :lol: |
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Wait, no it isn't. Trickle down? Or is that the sound of the Republicans pissing on your head and telling you it's raining? |
Dems want to share the wealth just enough to trap their lowly voting populace in a life of crap. Neither of these two parties are better, I don't know why you still believe in the Dems, Avatard. They are just as bad.
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I don't think you can teach others to see peripherally when you suffer from tunnel vision. |
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