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RACER X 07-07-2010 12:34 PM

NASA and the muslim world
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...tions-muslims/

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.


"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo -- in his interview with Al Jazeera, he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said. He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.

shmike 07-07-2010 12:35 PM

WTF :scratch:

Trip 07-07-2010 12:40 PM

This guy has to go.

shmike 07-07-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 391028)
This guy has to go.

Bolden or Obama?

Trip 07-07-2010 12:52 PM

Both, Bolden is who I was referring to.

Mikey 07-07-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 391032)
Bolden or Obama?

Yes.

Papa_Complex 07-07-2010 12:57 PM

Does this mean that the NASA budget has been cut so much, that they'll only be using conventional aircraft for the foreseeable future?

Particle Man 07-07-2010 12:58 PM

um, relevance to NASA's charter purpose?

Homeslice 07-07-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 391034)
Both, Bolden is who I was referring to.

Bolden is only doing what Obama told him to do. I can guarantee you he would never have dreamed up this Muslim thing otherwise.

smileyman 07-07-2010 01:13 PM

Why are we discussing 'The Muslim World'? Shouldnt an international effort for space exploration refer to them as 'The Arab World'?

Yes I know they are predominantly of the Muslim faith but this is a fail on the seperation of govt/religion maybe?

What would Obama like to see? Exploding space boots? Hijacked space stations?

tallywacker 07-07-2010 01:14 PM

Nasa is the one of the only agencies I like wasting money on as a taxpayer.

Bluestreak 07-07-2010 01:23 PM

Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot


Kick them all out... Get some people with some common freaking sense in these positions...

Homeslice 07-07-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 391049)
Why are we discussing 'The Muslim World'? Shouldnt an international effort for space exploration refer to them as 'The Arab World'?

Yes I know they are predominantly of the Muslim faith but this is a fail on the seperation of govt/religion maybe?

Agreed. Talk about pandering.

Unless this is part of some secret strategy to increase job opportunities so that they don't resort to jihad. Which by the way is the biggest reason many of them become terrorists: They don't have anything else to do.

Dave 07-07-2010 01:50 PM

Throw that guy out and give the job to burt rutan

goof2 07-07-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 391038)
Does this mean that the NASA budget has been cut so much, that they'll only be using conventional aircraft for the foreseeable future?

Essentially, if canceling Orion continues to be wrapped up in cancellation of the Constellation program. If that happens I don't believe NASA will even have the equipment necessary to resupply the International Space Station once the shuttles are retired. It will be dependent on the Russians, Europeans, Japanese, and a few companies NASA pays for resupply. As I understand it the only remaining vehicle that can transport crew is the Russian Soyuz.

On the original topic, this guy is an idiot but that doesn't even begin to register as a surprise anymore.:shrug:

Papa_Complex 07-07-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 391075)
Essentially, if canceling Orion continues to be wrapped up in cancellation of the Constellation program. If that happens I don't believe NASA will even have the equipment necessary to resupply the International Space Station once the shuttles are retired. It will be dependent on the Russians, Europeans, Japanese, and a few companies NASA pays for resupply. As I understand it the only remaining vehicle that can transport crew is the Russian Soyuz.

On the original topic, this guy is an idiot but that doesn't even begin to register as a surprise anymore.:shrug:

I was being facetious by referencing NASA directors who fly around the world as diplomats, but only just. It would be nice to see Orion get off the ground, though there have been several other proposed solutions.

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pauldun170 07-07-2010 04:04 PM

Sounds like someone added his own talking points to make himself look good on an interview.
Next up..at a N.O.W. conference
"My top priority is to reach out to single, unattractive angry women across the world, to embolden them by allowing them to beat mean with used tampons."

Smittie61984 07-07-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 391057)
Agreed. Talk about pandering.

Unless this is part of some secret strategy to increase job opportunities so that they don't resort to jihad. Which by the way is the biggest reason many of them become terrorists: They don't have anything else to do.

Don't they have opium or camel shrooms to turn to? Send our high school kids over there and they'll teach them how to deal with boredom and no job without purposely blowing yourself up.

Has the Arab world figured out the Earth isn't flat yet? I know for a while they were kicking ass with science but this Allah thing happend and they've seemed to stop.

Pauldun:
I'm cool with shooting angry, unattractive women into space.

Homeslice 07-07-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 391128)
Don't they have opium or camel shrooms to turn to? Send our high school kids over there and they'll teach them how to deal with boredom and no job without purposely blowing yourself up.

You are talking about a society where less than 1% have access to video games, and where their ability to "get bitches" is severely constrained by their archaic cultural norms.

Smittie61984 07-07-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 391129)
You are talking about a society where less than 1% have access to video games, and where their ability to "get bitches" is severely constrained by their archaic cultural norms.

Then why don't we just parachute them with weed and porn? They jack off and get tired, then smoke a doobie and get more tired.

Papa_Complex 07-07-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 391105)
Sounds like someone added his own talking points to make himself look good on an interview.
Next up..at a N.O.W. conference
"My top priority is to reach out to single, unattractive angry women across the world, to embolden them by allowing them to beat mean with used tampons."

Sounds right to me. Hell, who in the US watches Al Jazeera anyway?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 391129)
You are talking about a society where less than 1% have access to video games, and where their ability to "get bitches" is severely constrained by their archaic cultural norms.

In the hinterlands, sure. I suspect that people in Baghdad and Tehran don't have a lot of trouble finding bitches, and you can bet that the "observant Muslims" at the top of the food chain in Riyadh don't wont for 20 year old scotch and blonde hookers.

Particle Man 07-07-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 391131)
Then why don't we just parachute them with weed and porn? They jack off and get tired, then smoke a doobie and get more tired.

:lol:
quick, someone call Obama and tell him we have a solution

EpyonXero 07-07-2010 08:32 PM

...waiting for the punchline.

Adeptus_Minor 07-07-2010 08:44 PM

In space...how will they determine the qiblah? :whistle:

smileyman 07-07-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 391191)
In space...how will they determine the qiblah? :whistle:

Winner!

Smittie61984 07-07-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 391191)
In space...how will they determine the qiblah? :whistle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla
Quote:

The Qiblah from space
In April 2006, Malaysian National Space Agency (Angkasa), the Malaysian space agency, sponsored a conference[3] of scientists and religious scholars to address the issue of how the Qiblah should be determined when one is in orbit. The conference concluded that the astronaut should determine the location of the qibala "according to [their] capability".[4] There have already been several Muslim astronauts, among them the very first being Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, the latest being the first Muslim woman in space Anousheh Ansari and the Malaysian angkasawan Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani has stated that one should face the direction of the Earth.


Adeptus_Minor 07-08-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 391205)

Yes yes... you can wikipedia too.
STFU :nee::lol:

101lifts2 07-08-2010 01:59 AM

Obama is fucking putz. Let's use NASA so I can pander to the Muslims in the U.S.....and tout it off as if they will contribute so much to math and science as to make space travel to Mars possible. The dudes head is on Mars.

Dave 07-08-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 391129)
You are talking about a society where less than 1% have access to video games, and where their ability to "get bitches" is severely constrained by their archaic cultural norms.

Usually they have to get boys long before they can afford the dowry on a girl.


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