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Triple 12-20-2010 12:17 PM

First time for everything...
 
If it's dry, I ride, regardless of the temperature. It was 25-degrees this morning it is supposed to reach a sunny 50 by this afternoon; the choice to ride to work today was a no-brainer.

Some mornings the throttle is frozen in place as I pull away from the car port. I usually just pull in the clutch, give the throttle grip a quick blip, everything frees up, and I'm on my way. Did the same this morning, but instead of a smooth break, the throttle instantly went to WFO and froze there. Not expecting this, I was already in the process of releasing the clutch, and upon engagement I was rocketed beyond Earth's orbit and a few minutes back in time.

Reality blurred and before thoughts of pulling the clutch back in or reaching for the ignition switch could form, I was on my side with the bike doing the horizontal donut dance on top of me. Gravel hailstorm at 25 degrees: cozy.

The rocks punched a hole in the left engine cover. I doubt it was wide open for more than 2 or 3 seconds, but some of that was spent pumping all its oil out onto the driveway. Said engine cover and my left leg prevented the bodywork from rashing up too bad; some scratches near the bottom of the side cowl, but no cracks and no marks on the tail, tank, or nose. Assuming the engine internals are okay, repairs should be limited to touch-up paint and a new engine cover.

Anyway, goddamitmotherfuckerbullshitpissfuck.

azoomm 12-20-2010 12:20 PM

Holy crap!! You ok?

goof2 12-20-2010 12:21 PM

It sucks about laying it down, but that sounds like it would have been hilarious to see.:lol:

pauldun170 12-20-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 434228)
If it's dry, I ride, regardless of the temperature. It was 25-degrees this morning it is supposed to reach a sunny 50 by this afternoon; the choice to ride to work today was a no-brainer.

Some mornings the throttle is frozen in place as I pull away from the car port. I usually just pull in the clutch, give the throttle grip a quick blip, everything frees up, and I'm on my way. Did the same this morning, but instead of a smooth break, the throttle instantly went to WFO and froze there. Not expecting this, I was already in the process of releasing the clutch, and upon engagement I was rocketed beyond Earth's orbit and a few minutes back in time.

Reality blurred and before thoughts of pulling the clutch back in or reaching for the ignition switch could form, I was on my side with the bike doing the horizontal donut dance on top of me. Gravel hailstorm at 25 degrees: cozy.

The rocks punched a hole in the left engine cover. I doubt it was wide open for more than 2 or 3 seconds, but some of that was spent pumping all its oil out onto the driveway. Said engine cover and my left leg prevented the bodywork from rashing up too bad; some scratches near the bottom of the side cowl, but no cracks and no marks on the tail, tank, or nose. Assuming the engine internals are okay, repairs should be limited to touch-up paint and a new engine cover.

Anyway, goddamitmotherfuckerbullshitpissfuck.

damn....
What bike was this?

wildchild 12-20-2010 12:30 PM

hey cold pavement is slippery you should accelerate smoothly.......LOL

yeah I'm an asshole. glad you didn't get hurt at least. other then pride it sounds like anyway.

25 is beyond my tolerance level.

Triple 12-20-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 434232)
It sucks about laying it down, but that sounds like it would have been hilarious to see.

Yes, in that strange pause in time typical of instantaneous violence, I actually had time to think of this (right around the 5:00 mark):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bWl0MZxYrA

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 434237)
damn.... What bike was this?

The shiny 600-mile Triumph I bought back in August.

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 406493)
My goal this time is to not crash it-- twice-- like I did with my first one.

FAILURE

CasterTroy 12-20-2010 01:20 PM

Dude I hate it happened...but man oh man if reality is HALF as funny as what I imagined you'd make $10k for a video of that :lol:

Gas Man 12-20-2010 02:39 PM

Sucks man. Get some pics. Glad you're ok.

So what you're saying is that you don't think there is any engine damage from the accident or throttle issue??

Why didn't you fix that issue before?

Triple 12-20-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 434324)
Why didn't you fix that issue before?

The throttle was notchy before, but it had never stuck open. I assumed it was sticking closed in the mornings because of frozen condensation.

Regardless, I have a new throttle tube on order along with the engine cover. When I had the throttle assembly apart a few months ago, the cables moved fine on their own, but the plastic part of the tube they connect to was slightly mashed.

Gas Man 12-20-2010 04:08 PM

WOW... that sucks man.

101lifts2 12-20-2010 04:44 PM

I read the title and thought....First time for what? It isn't crashing. lol

Are you still limping or is ur knee OK? I was picturing the bike on top of your leg and you crying for help.

tallywacker 12-20-2010 04:48 PM

LoL

Misfit 12-20-2010 06:34 PM

You're ok, right?

Because omg that's the funniest sh!t I've heard in a while, and the Kat Williams link has me roflmao! Don't feel too bad though, we've all been there...just maybe not QUITE the same.

Particle Man 12-20-2010 06:37 PM

Crap. That really blows.

Triple 12-21-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 434412)
Are you still limping or is ur knee OK? I was picturing the bike on top of your leg and you crying for help.

I put the fucker on my shoulder and carried it back to the garage. If I wasn't concerned with broken plastics, I would have thrown it.

It actually did fall on my bad knee, but it didn't do any damage. My leg was stiff the rest of the day, but I don't feel anything now.

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Originally Posted by Misfit (Post 434443)
You're ok, right? Because omg that's the funniest sh!t I've heard in a while, and the Kat Williams link has me roflmao! Don't feel too bad though, we've all been there...just maybe not QUITE the same.

I actually watched that Kat Williams bit on Saturday night.

On Monday morning, I re-enacted it...

ericr 12-21-2010 08:39 PM

Shit, the story is lol funny dude!

Sucks about the bike and glad it didn't get you!

Triple 01-23-2011 11:16 PM

Parts finally arrived late last week. Only took a month...

Because the bike spent a few seconds running on its side, I decided to pull the tank and airbox to check for oil in the combustion chambers. I've heard horror stories of people starting their recently crashed bikes only to break and bend engine internals because of incompressible liquid atop their pistons. Pulled the plugs, cranked it a few times, and no oil shot out.

While I had it apart, I decided to install the K&N air filter I bought months ago, and looky what I found:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/ALIM0651.JPG

Same thing has happened with the other two bikes I've had at this property. I don't know how to keep the mice out of the airbox. I put traps under the bike. Just a hazard of living in the woods, I suppose.

Upon reassembly, the bike fired up easy enough, but it's producing more smoke than usual and the check-engine light is on. It idles fine and responds to throttle inputs per normal.

Even with the new tube, however, the throttle sticks just like it did the day I crashed. With the engine off, it's sticky, but it retracts on its own. With the engine running, it freezes open and must be retracted manually. New cables..?

101lifts2 01-24-2011 12:39 AM

Dude just buy a new bike...even if it is a 250. lol

What is that shit in the airbox?

derf 01-24-2011 12:55 AM

Is the handlebar bent? It could cause the throttle to stick, and temp changes could cause it to tighten and loosen with the time of day and heat from the bike.

Particle Man 01-24-2011 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 444558)
Parts finally arrived late last week. Only took a month...

Because the bike spent a few seconds running on its side, I decided to pull the tank and airbox to check for oil in the combustion chambers. I've heard horror stories of people starting their recently crashed bikes only to break and bend engine internals because of incompressible liquid atop their pistons. Pulled the plugs, cranked it a few times, and no oil shot out.

While I had it apart, I decided to install the K&N air filter I bought months ago, and looky what I found:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...6/ALIM0651.JPG

Same thing has happened with the other two bikes I've had at this property. I don't know how to keep the mice out of the airbox. I put traps under the bike. Just a hazard of living in the woods, I suppose.

Upon reassembly, the bike fired up easy enough, but it's producing more smoke than usual and the check-engine light is on. It idles fine and responds to throttle inputs per normal.

Even with the new tube, however, the throttle sticks just like it did the day I crashed. With the engine off, it's sticky, but it retracts on its own. With the engine running, it freezes open and must be retracted manually. New cables..?

I can't see the pic but when I lived in a fairly heavily wooded area and mice were a problem I placed mothballs around parked vehicles (punch some holes in some ziplock baggies to make them easy to move around and invest in bulk in nitrile gloves). Smells like ass but keeps the mice away.

Triple 01-24-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 444566)
What is that shit in the airbox?

Acorns, mostly. Mice are nesting / storing food inside the airbox. There are probably nests inside our cars' intakes, too. At least with the K&N, they can't chew through a paper element and get sucked into the engine...

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 444568)
Is the handlebar bent? It could cause the throttle to stick, and temp changes could cause it to tighten and loosen with the time of day and heat from the bike.

Nothing is bent. The bars didn't take a hit in the crash and the throttle has been sticky since I bought the bike; it's been getting progressively worse and now it freezes completely. I'll thoroughly clean the linkage around the throttle bodies when I replace the cables-- if that doesn't fix it (combined with the new throttle tube), I'm at a loss...

derf 01-24-2011 10:33 AM

If its been like that since you bought the bike it really could be anything.

Only reason I said the bars is because I had that problem a while back. The bike was dropped and the bar bent just enough to make the throttle notchy. I started cleaning and replacing stuff, and the only way I could see that the bar was bent is that when I held a straight edge to it against a light, I could see more light between it from the

racedoll 01-24-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericr (Post 434943)
Shit, the story is lol funny dude!

Sucks about the bike and glad it didn't get you!

Plus one! Too funny about the acorns, although I'm sure that sucks too. Hopefully you get it all figured out.

Triple 01-25-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derf (Post 444648)
the only way I could see that the bar was bent is that when I held a straight edge to it against a light, I could see more light between it from the

Checked it last night and the bar looks okay against a straight edge. Besides, when it isn't connected to the cables, the tube spins freely on the bar with no resistance.

racedoll 01-25-2011 06:25 PM

Is this bike fuel injected?

Triple 01-26-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by racedoll (Post 445119)
Is this bike fuel injected?

Yep.

Gas Man 01-26-2011 09:03 AM

2 things to rid yourself of pests.

First
http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/p...0_front200.jpg

Second and I'm not sure it works with mice but definately works with many other things like rabbits, and such.
http://www.cutblackhair.com/Pix/clea...-clippings.jpg

Perferrably male hair clippings cause men don't die their hair (normally) and therefor the human scent is stronger. Sprinkle it around the outside of the barn/garage/deck/flower bed. Poof... like a stinky animal border.

racedoll 01-26-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 445197)
Yep.

Have you checked the throttle bodies to see if they are gummed up in any way? Or maybe there is condensation in there since you did say it is worse when it's cold.

Triple 01-27-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 445208)
Perferrably male hair clippings cause men don't die their hair (normally) and therefor the human scent is stronger. Sprinkle it around the outside of the barn/garage/deck/flower bed. Poof... like a stinky animal border.

Don't think that will work with mice. Rabbits fear people; mice and rats willingly come into our houses, steal our food, shit on my dishes and occasionally run across my forehead while I'm lying in bed. If I put my hair down around the bike, I'm 99.9% certain I would later find it stuffed inside my air filter along with the nuts.

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Originally Posted by racedoll (Post 445353)
Have you checked the throttle bodies to see if they are gummed up in any way? Or maybe there is condensation in there since you did say it is worse when it's cold.

You can see the butterflies in the photo above. With the airbox open, I got a pretty good look and everything is squeaky clean. Bike only has about 1500 miles; not really enough time to accumulate the kind of gunk in the intake that would gum up the throttle bodies. The bike sat for years before it was put on the road, however, so maybe the linkage and cam have dust/gunk/corrosion. I will inspect and clean/lube as necessary when I disassemble everything (again) to replace the cables.

Particle Man 01-27-2011 09:37 AM

Is it the SV, dude? I still can't see the pic so I can't just look and see.

I don't know about the 1K, but on my 650 if the cables aren't absolutely perfect the throttle sticks.

Triple 01-27-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 445477)
Is it the SV, dude? I still can't see the pic so I can't just look and see. I don't know about the 1K, but on my 650 if the cables aren't absolutely perfect the throttle sticks.

This is the Triumph, though the mice enjoy the SV as well.

The throttle gets gummy on the Suzuki, too, but it's not as bad as the Daytona. The Triumph's bind in place whenever the bike is running. Having to manually twist the throttle on and off make it too dangerous to ride as-is. It sits until my new cables arrive.

Gas Man 01-27-2011 07:51 PM

Yeah I said I wasn't sure abt the hair thing with hair clippings.


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