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Homeslice 04-08-2011 11:59 PM

Texas exhibits rare display of intelligence
 
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749...-safe-24835691

Avatard 04-09-2011 02:15 AM

Awesome. Finally, a reasonable speed limit.

When I was a kid, the speed limit was 75, and cars at the time had:

Bias ply tires
Drum brakes
No seatbelts (not until '64)
No padded dash
No side impact door beams
No ABS
No roll-over protection
No computer designed crumple zones
No energy absorbing bumpers
No airbags


Now, cars have:

High speed rated radial tires
Dual circuit power assisted disk brakes
Pre-tensioning seatbelts (with shoulder harnesses)
Padded dashboards
Side impact door beams
Computer controlled ABS
Integral roll-over protection
Computer designed crumple zones
Energy absorbing bumpers
More fucking airbags than I can count on both hands

...and the speed limit is 65?

Really, somebody's fucking me...and I'm pretty sure it's the insurance industry.

For crissakes, even fucking Kias can do over 100 MPH.

65? Really?

Glad to hear that at least TX figured this stupid shit out.

Bravo.

Rangerscott 04-09-2011 03:13 AM

It's 75 on I-40. People drive 80 already.


I just hope it doesn't apply to 18 wheelers. Those are already Tons of Death going 65 (which non go that speed).

azoomm 04-09-2011 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 462582)
It's 75 on I-40. People drive 80 already.


I just hope it doesn't apply to 18 wheelers. Those are already Tons of Death going 65 (which non go that speed).

I'll take a semi driver going 80 over a civic driver going 80 anyday....

Avatard 04-09-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 462582)
It's 75 on I-40. People drive 80 already.

Exactly, so this is why such things makes sense.

"Everyone" isn't a fucking criminal.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 462582)
I just hope it doesn't apply to 18 wheelers. Those are already Tons of Death going 65 (which non go that speed).

Despite the mass and their sheer size, they actually represent a very tiny percentage of all accidents, considering miles traveled.

Rangerscott 04-09-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 462584)
I'll take a semi driver going 80 over a civic driver going 80 anyday....

Not from what I've seen. Drivers of a semi have a less chance of surviving than someone in a car. Semi cabs are being made more and more cheap every day. Plastic is taking over the majority of them. Even the bumpers are plastic on a lot of them now.

I'd rather see a honda civic doing flips than an 18 wheeler mowing down a how line of vehicles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivbkLBm6WIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_F4...eature=related

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatard (Post 462607)
Exactly, so this is why such things makes sense.

"Everyone" isn't a fucking criminal.




Despite the mass and their sheer size, they actually represent a very tiny percentage of all accidents, considering miles traveled.


I'm a criminal every day. Trip's an outlaw in shitville with their laws against sex toys.

Avatard 04-09-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerscott (Post 462707)
trip's an outlaw in shitville with their laws against sex toys.

tmi

Particle Man 04-10-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard (Post 462580)

For crissakes, even fucking Kias can do over 100 MPH.

True story. Smooth as hell, too. :whistle:

tommymac 04-10-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 462793)
True story. Smooth as hell, too. :whistle:

was it down a long hill with a strong tailwind :lol:

azoomm 04-10-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 462707)
Not from what I've seen. Drivers of a semi have a less chance of surviving than someone in a car. Semi cabs are being made more and more cheap every day. Plastic is taking over the majority of them. Even the bumpers are plastic on a lot of them now.

I'd rather see a honda civic doing flips than an 18 wheeler mowing down a how line of vehicles.

No, I trust the ability of the semi driver over most any car driver ANYDAY. Did you see the asshole other vehicle pull in front of the semi in the first video?

It still means that semi can kill you. But, in a battle of civic vs semi - law of gross tonnage means that civic will lose. So, maybe that civic should leave the semi the fuck alone...

Particle Man 04-10-2011 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 462803)
was it down a long hill with a strong tailwind :lol:

My Optima has a surprising amount of power. It isn't a sports car, obviously :lol: but it does pretty well

Trip 04-10-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 462804)
No, I trust the ability of the semi driver over most any car driver ANYDAY. Did you see the asshole other vehicle pull in front of the semi in the first video?

It still means that semi can kill you. But, in a battle of civic vs semi - law of gross tonnage means that civic will lose. So, maybe that civic should leave the semi the fuck alone...

I don't, the Semi's that come through here drive like fucking idiots just as much as the normal person. They only problem with that, is they have a vehicle that demolishes others.

Semi's hastily pulling in front of me when they have little to no room, so they can get in the passing lane and hold up traffic is a daily occurence.

I have worked along side a lot of individuals who have their commercial license, no way in hell I would trust them over anyone else. Too many of them have this "I rule the road" complex.

Of course, the only major automobile incident I have been in was when a Semi plowed into me in freakin bumper to bumper traffic.

fatbuckRTO 04-10-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 462804)
No, I trust the ability of the semi driver over most any car driver ANYDAY.

You and I have been driving around some very different big rig operators.

Particle Man 04-10-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO (Post 462893)
You and I have been driving around some very different big rig operators.

:lol: same here

Homeslice 04-10-2011 06:06 PM

She said ability, not actual behavior.

More training = more ability.

Particle Man 04-10-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 462900)
She said ability, not actual behavior.

More training = more ability.

Unless the "more" is remedial :lol

Trip 04-10-2011 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 462900)
She said ability, not actual behavior.

More training = more ability.

trust comes from behavior, not ability. Just ask people who ride motorcycles around me. :lol:

101lifts2 04-11-2011 01:32 AM

I think 85 is too fast for all lanes on the freeway. What they really need to do is mark each lane with a speed range such as:
Lane 1: 85-75mph
Lane 2: 75-65mph
Lane 3: 65 and below

tommymac 04-11-2011 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 462980)
I think 85 is too fast for all lanes on the freeway. What they really need to do is mark each lane with a speed range such as:
Lane 1: 85-75mph
Lane 2: 75-65mph
Lane 3: 65 and below

Great idea but wil never work in the ny metro area. idiots here drive in whatever lane they want and if you highbeam someone in the left lane to move over they may shoot you :lol:

When we travel for trackdays we know were getting closer to home because the driving gets worse.

smileyman 04-11-2011 10:50 AM

Anyone who has a real problem with this must have not ever driven in Texas. There are places, especially in West Texas where there are literally no corners for 20 miles. Driving 65 on their super wide and smooth oil corporation funded paved roads is like running 30 on a normal interstate system...

Particle Man 04-11-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 462995)
Great idea but wil never work in the ny metro area. idiots here drive in whatever lane they want and if you highbeam someone in the left lane to move over they may shoot you :lol:

When we travel for trackdays we know were getting closer to home because the driving gets worse.

People in our country don't get the whole concept of "flash to pass"

They get all pissed and vindictive.

defector 04-11-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 463048)
Anyone who has a real problem with this must have not ever driven in Texas. There are places, especially in West Texas where there are literally no corners for 20 miles. Driving 65 on their super wide and smooth oil corporation funded paved roads is like running 30 on a normal interstate system...

Anyone who has ever driven across Texas needs to go at least 85. Shit takes forever otherwise.

Adeptus_Minor 04-11-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defector (Post 463067)
Anyone who has ever driven across Texas needs to go at least 85. Shit takes forever otherwise.

In West Texas and South Texas, that is definitely true.

Rangerscott 04-11-2011 11:56 PM

My state is bigger than your state. :lol:

Avatard 04-12-2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 463064)
People in our country don't get the whole concept of "flash to pass"

They get all pissed and vindictive.

I don't flash to pass. Picked up something many years back while in Germany.

Left turn signal.

In fact, I was told by someone that you can get a fine in Germany for highbeaming, and that the correct protocol was, in fact, the left turn signal. He also duly noted that if you were traveling in excess of 260 km, that it probably was perhaps best to give a light tap on the highs regardless, just to let them know you're coming.

I started using the left turn signal thing, and I've actually even seen it catching on a bit.

People seem somewhat less "insulted" somehow, and yield faster...

tommymac 04-12-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatard (Post 463235)
I don't flash to pass. Picked up something many years back while in Germany.

Left turn signal.

In fact, I was told by someone that you can get a fine in Germany for highbeaming, and that the correct protocol was, in fact, the left turn signal. He also duly noted that if you were traveling in excess of 260 km, that it probably was perhaps best to give a light tap on the highs regardless, just to let them know you're coming.

I started using the left turn signal thing, and I've actually even seen it catching on a bit.

People seem somewhat less "insulted" somehow, and yield faster...

Flashing may be illegal here too, I know it upsets the popo when people do it to warn other motorists that theyre out there. Plus it may interupt the important text message theyre sending out at the time

fatbuckRTO 04-12-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 462900)
She said ability, not actual behavior.

More training = more ability.

And she said "trust," not "there is more."

Regardless, more training /= more ability. It's supposed to, but people are teh suck and more training is no guarantee of anything. The semi drivers I generally "share" the road with are living proof of that.

Homeslice 04-12-2011 09:05 AM

True, but I'll put more trust in commerical training than high school "training".

pauldun170 04-12-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 463064)
People in our country don't get the whole concept of "flash to pass"

They get all pissed and vindictive.

I'm going to make the assumption (despite the overwhelming evidence against this assumption) that by "flash to pass" you really mean whip em out Wednesdays.

Fleck750 04-12-2011 11:46 AM

As an over the road driver of 6 years, I will say those that travel cross country are much better drivers than those that only drive locally.

But really, how many trucks do you see wandering across three lanes while texting? I trust semis much more than cagers anyday, and most trucks top out at maybe 75 nowdays.

Sixxxxer 04-12-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 463241)
Flashing may be illegal here too, I know it upsets the popo when people do it to warn other motorists that theyre out there. Plus it may interupt the important text message theyre sending out at the time


I dunno many people who actually know what that means anymore...Maybe its bc of my dad but when I drive if anyone flashes there highs at me and there driving toward me...I automatically slow down.

I've done it to many people and always wonder if they know what it is im doing...There was only one time where a guy in a vette actually waved and had a "thanks for the heads up" look as he was probably about to rocket down the road.

I noticed it ALOT more when i was at the two rally's where cars would actually flash motorcycles...which I thought was a nice gesture.

tommymac 04-12-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer (Post 463319)
I dunno many people who actually know what that means anymore...Maybe its bc of my dad but when I drive if anyone flashes there highs at me and there driving toward me...I automatically slow down.

I've done it to many people and always wonder if they know what it is im doing...There was only one time where a guy in a vette actually waved and had a "thanks for the heads up" look as he was probably about to rocket down the road.

I noticed it ALOT more when i was at the two rally's where cars would actually flash motorcycles...which I thought was a nice gesture.

If I am on my bike I will tap the top of my helmet and point behind me if I see another bike, a few have given a wave back and I think a few were like whats his problem :lol:

wildchild 04-12-2011 12:51 PM

here I :
on the bike tap the helmet
in the cage flash the lights

yes it is illegal. the ticket is interfering with justice or whatever.

wildchild 04-12-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 463333)
If I am on my bike I will tap the top of my helmet and point behind me if I see another bike, a few have given a wave back and I think a few were like whats his problem :lol:

i went to a get together at a local dealer. they started "teaching" guys about hand signals. everyone showed one and folks had to guess what it was. i did the tap on helmet.
the only one who knew it was a kid who rode in with his folks, he had a cbr600. next thing I heard was a guy saying that's what that meant.
yeah usually they wave back.

tommymac 04-12-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild (Post 463345)
here I :
on the bike tap the helmet
in the cage flash the lights

yes it is illegal. the ticket is interfering with justice or whatever.

Or revenue generation :td:

wildchild 04-12-2011 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 463348)
Or revenue generation :td:

exactly!

tommymac 04-12-2011 01:06 PM

it would be harder to get ya for taping on your helmet. Figure most cops probably dont know what it means, and second you were just adjusting your helmet ;)

Sixxxxer 04-12-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild (Post 463347)
i went to a get together at a local dealer. they started "teaching" guys about hand signals. everyone showed one and folks had to guess what it was. i did the tap on helmet.
the only one who knew it was a kid who rode in with his folks, he had a cbr600. next thing I heard was a guy saying that's what that meant.
yeah usually they wave back.

I would venture a guess and say the Tap is more sportbike oriented than it is the Cruiser scene

tommymac 04-12-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer (Post 463357)
I would venture a guess and say the Tap is more sportbike oriented than it is the Cruiser scene

Most cruisers around here dont acknowledge anyone or anything anyway

Particle Man 04-12-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 463360)
Most cruisers around here dont acknowledge anyone or anything anyway

They're afraid to let go of the bars.

Rangerscott 04-12-2011 10:30 PM

Hell. In the last 3 months I've noticed more and more stupid people waiting for a green light to turn right.

Particle Man 04-13-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 463486)
Hell. In the last 3 months I've noticed more and more stupid people waiting for a green light to turn right.

That's been happening here too. And the green arrows REALLY fk them up...


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