Big tough NYC cops pepper spray girls in peaceful protest
 

Apparently, they couldn't deal with the girls' cries of "Shame!", as they beat up a kid in the street right in front of them, so a white-shirted higher-up steps in to show his true cowardice, and peppers sprays some girls in the face, and then runs away, in order to show everyone who's boss!

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...ea_elliott.php

:kidseye:

Honestly I hope they pepper spry all those spoiled little pukes

Spoiled? Who, the shitbags of Wall St. that the girls were protesting?

Yeah, someone should pepper spray them, huh?

Hmm.

The fat chick in black annoyed me. Seemed like the type of person to egg on a cop and cause her own arrest.

As for the other women...they didn't deserve to get pepper sprayed when it was individuals around them being dicks.

Other wise...

I wish they would have had rubber bullets.

Civil disobedience is still disobedience. Protesters deserve everything they get

Hmmm...ignorance from the "how soon they forget" dept.
 

Yeah, people should only protest against regimes you hate, right?

See: Tea Party

(wow)

What a bunch of bitches. This flower girl took some hard core shit to the face and didn't cry about it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Uava9mGos

I long for the old days where we just beat the hell out of people...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNUHcVemZ_k

Yep... that's it... or maybe we don't get the whole story based on one shitty cell phone camera and eye witness statements from people with axes to grind... maybe.

I like when you grasp blindly for straws :lol: id describe that lot as useful idiots, but id still happily condem any moron in the street with a banner

I think the right to protest is extremely American, and you're a fool.

Well if they can master the "peaceably" part then they'd be on to something.

The link has another vido with the events leading up to it

Actually paying attention FTMFW, Paul.

The idiots that got brought down provoked that shit. You can't come up behind cops arresting people or grab cops.

don't see any reason besides revenge/hate for the pepper spray though, that was idiotic and you can tell the other cops were completely unprepared for it. That fucker needs to be fired. Definitely looks like one of em got some of it too.

Yep. Fucking coward.

I think next time they should cut their fucking heads off with a chainsaw Zetas style. Fuck protesting!!!

It's funny how Americans have basically belittled protesting and protestors too crazies and hippies. Yet it is also one of our greatest moments in founding this country...

Welcome to short attention span theater.

Being old enough to remember when protesting meant and we accepted the risks anyway. I have no respect for these self indulgent whiners

I see no self-indulgence. The girl was very matter-of-fact, and grumbled little.

These people are using cameras, and modern media to highlight what they feel is wrong...and what is, in this case, a pretty clear case of someone being a real pussy ass coward.

I see nothing wrong with how the girl in this interview handled herself.

Got a lot of money in stocks, do we?

I can't comment on what happened years ago but at my school we get at least once a month some preacher group with giant signs about how we're all going ot hell, especially the gays, and come to our "freedom of speech zone". Well what usually happens is some students who must have retard 101 classes to be able to have the time to argue with some random idiot start screaming at them.

Which is no big deal except they'll scream "you have no right to preach hate speech". They even quoted a student saying "you have a right to free speech but not hate speech" in our school newspaper. Which translates to you have a right to say what you want as long as I agree with it or it doesn't offend me.

Despite the idiocy of the preachers, they never ever tell others they don't have a right to do what they do. They are just warning of what they feel are the consequences of their actions.

What I'm getting at is I'm curious if the protesters of before (and I'd even say before the 20th century) had more respect for others.

:gayk:

Looks like they poked the bear and the bear got pissed.

While I enjoy the freedom to protest, peaceful means not yelling your head off at the cops.

Now the spray was overdone.

Bigger bear may be even more pissed.

Anonymous Leaks Personal Details of Cop Who Pepper-Sprayed Wall Street Protesters

Oh shit...

ha ha, interwebz lolz

Newt Gingrich has been remarkably quiet on the subject. Willing to bet its not really anon

No, that's actually not at all what peaceful means. It means you didn't cut his head off and mount it on a pole.

His name is Tony Bologna...

So is the ins agent who my bikes are insured under :lol:

My ex-landlord was Mary A. Large-Beaver. No bullshit...

my ex LL was just a large asshole :lol:

Little wrap up fo ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgr3DiqWYCI

Lawrence O'Donnell no bias there.

Wheres the Rachel Maddow video?

I'm sure he's just on top of it as far as the whole story. If there is one. It usually seems the cameras when the cops show up, but they somehow forget to record for the reason the cops show up.

Talk about fucking bias.
 

Hey, your ignorance is showing. Someone didn't watch the video.

Go run along and play hide and go fuck yourself, won't you? Take your stupid fucking biases with you (the ones that prevent you from even peeping other viewpoints).

Asshole.

You know you're making good points when Av starts with the four letter words and impressive name calling... You know you've won when he starts ignoring your posts or completely ignore the thread when it's a slam dunk. A couple more and maybe we'll get there on this thread...

Get where? To impossible ignorance? Incredible stupidity?

He made no point at all. He made a point of being a shithead (as are you), and not even watching the video (which is comprised mostly of a lot of video shot actually at the conflict).

As has come up here so many times, the root of the entire conflict (if you were a non-penis, and actually watched the fucking thing), is that "old chestnut" of cops just not liking being filmed. That's why they busted the kid on his head in the street, and that's why they sprayed the girls, and ran away.

They're pussies, who are ashamed of themselves, and know they look bad, because they are bad.

And you should be ashamed too, for blindly, and stupidly defending their actions (without even really educating yourself about it, no less).

You really couldn't be any more of a truly stupid douchebag, could you?

I think we're getting closer...

No, you've gotten there. You're as dumb as a fucking stump.

The sad thing is, you defend remaining ignorant.

That's the new thing now, isn't it? Anti-intellectualism.

You're that, fo sho, stud.

No mistaking you for intelligent now, huh?

says the guy quoting the village voice :lmao:

It's a national story now, idiot.

Voice covers it first, because it's a NY paper.

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

hey,












yer cute ;)

lol...thread is funny

I'm glad for the internet posting shit like this, because you know the NYPD isn't going to tell the truth. Cops cover shit up left and right, making the good cops look bad, because the shitty cops are never weeded out. Very unfortunate.

A bunch in NY are about to, I think 17 just got indicted on a ticket fixing scandal.

Hook, line, and sinker... Every fucking time... It's just too easy... Dance monkey dance! :lmao:

Is he the monkey, or is it the people ignoring the subject in order to make an effort getting someone riled up?

JC

:lol: Its like when I go to the Orangutan exhibit at the Fort Worth Zoo and I watch the people make stupid faces and noises, swing their arms around wildly and throw things into the exhibit. Meanwhile the Orangutan clan just sits and looks up at the people, seemingly very bored with all this absurd behavior.

If it took any effort, we'd be the monkeys...

The devil's advocate position is important to ensure biases are vetted... something AV routinely ignores... what's worse is when he's proven wrong or the opposing argument is relatively strong, he'll just ignore it completely... either flagrantly by continuing to post in a thread and not acknowledging the argument or by dipping out of the thread completely.

And yes, it's fun to watch him get going... sometimes he says something relatively amusing, but otherwise it's just entertaining to get his goat...

I watched the whole raw videos and this is what I noticed. First guy (I think it was a guy) was on the other side of taht orange thing that said "police line, do not cross". Also the shitty ass footage looked like it was filmed on a calculator. Someone could have thrown a Bugs Bunny style bomb and we wouldn't be able to tell if it was a beach ball or a bomb until it went off. You know they have Iphones and Ipads with HD video plus that one woman who had a $1000 (from a company that sells stock on Wall St) 1080p capable camcorder that I'd love to have.

Anyways the camera person who was taken down was also on the other side of that magical orange barrier that said do not cross. I couldn't tell much from the annoying "shame, shame, shame, shame, shame" chant those drones spit out but it looked pretty chaotic especially since the cops were having to manually hold up the barricade that was probably placed prior to the protester arrrivals. Why is the barricade down now?

Also I get you have a right to peaceably assemble and petition but why are we leaving off a very important end part. (hint: it starts with Governmen and ends with t) http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

Now of course they have the right to free speech but I'm curious what kind of danger they may have put the individuals who work on Wall St. Were they spitting at them? Were they throwing stuff at them? Were they threatening them? You're crossing the line there when you are harming or threatening others.

Should the cops have sprayed those women? Didn't look like it and they should be investigated. Were they a fully peaceful protest like that MSNBC twat made it out to be? Well if a small Tea Party group acted like that, they'd have a NY Times front page spot reserved just for them.

Any time a black guy walks passed the Tea Party, they shout all kinds of racist statements them even though the enormous video collection of the black guy walking by has no audio record of such statements.

Proof is for pussies.

You don't make me dance, you make me annoyed that anyone can be that ignorant. In reality though, you could die a painful death, and I wouldn't really care about you, so I guess your ignorance really only harms you, and I probably shouldn't let it affect me. Enjoy it.

If it's a joke to you, and you think I amuse you, I can assure it won't happen again. You're on my ignore. Not my list. I don't use an ignore list. As I've done before, I will just ignore YOU, as a human, because you're a stupid human; you say only stupid things, you don't enhance the discussion, only disrupt it.

I have no tolerance for stupidity, real or fake. You can comment on my posts, even troll them. You won't, however, ever engage me in conversation again. I can recall no comment or information from you that I ever found interesting, notable, intelligent, helpful, or positive.

Hope you find all that equally as funny. Enjoy your ignorance alone. I won't dance for you anymore. Now, I'll just watch you dance; perhaps try your best to rile me...and then I'll just sit back and laugh.

Last laugh? Mine. You get to be ignorant alone. Now you dance for me. Dance, stupid white boy.

This cant be THAT big of a deal becasue good ole rev al sharpton isnt all over it yet, we al lknow he loves to take shots at NYPD esp if theres a lawsuit he can make soem money off of.

I didn't notice any black people involved. Plus I think he's been busy lately with that Troy Davis guy who got lethal injection. He knows his only validity is by throwing the race card and you can't do that for dyke pasty white chicks.

Oh the drama....:lol:

JC

No drama :shrug: Just recalibrating my mental "stupid filter".

People think they upset me with stupid shit like this. Ooooh....someone's stupid on the Internet.

Geez, if that upset me, I'd be a wreck.

I'll just converse with those who wish to have intelligent discourse...and ignore the stupid. leaving them out of the conversation.

It's like when adults are trying to talk, and children are chattering at nonsense. You learn to ignore it.

Eventually, the children run off, and go play at something else.

I think hes done with that, he is going after them for the lady who got shot at the caribean day parade. he will rep the pasty white chicks to look less racist. He represented the guy who was allegedly sodomized by the cops for jumping a turnstile.

Good job, OSP.

Real nice...

It's not a racist issue. It's a cops being dicks issue. There was no race involvement.

He tried to cover for his ignorance (once again, he shot his mouth off without reading properly, or even viewing the vid). When I called him on it, he tried to deflect, and pretend it was all done to rile me.

But...you can't hide stupid.

Stupid people will be heretofore ignored.

:lmao:

That was his point.

I think Av missed the part where Al Sharpton was brought up.

I think someone just assumed it was a racist issue because I referred to someone a dumb white boy.

See post about Al Sharpton...

After Brawley, I find it hard to take anything the man says seriously.

I know people have a short attention span, because I still see his talking head on TV sometimes...but not me. He could have a great point, but it would be lost on me, because at least with me, he's lost all cred.

It's someone stupid trying to deflect.

Didn't work - just made me go back to ignoring all he says.

See? He makes reference to one video (there were many, he didn't follow links, or read properly). After he dug in, it was probably hard to change position, so it became instead a game of taunt, in order to deflect from his stupidity.

Sorry, it still reads as stupid.

:rolleyes:

Children. They really should sit at the small table, and let the adults have a proper conversation.

It's so predictable that it's almost not any fun anymore... Then there's a response which demonstrates just how much I get under his skin and it's TOTALLY fun again... The truth is, we'd probably get along if he'd actually consider the other side to every story he posts, but he fails to ask questions, fails to consider any other possiblity outside his own bias, and then comes back with childish personal attacks rather than defending his stance... then he ignores it... just like he's doing now. It's absolutely pathetic and I enjoy watching him fester in these situations... every time.

Ah yes, nobody could have an opposing viewpoint, nobody could play devil's advocate to foster the discussion... it all must be ignorance or stupidity... I guess that's why you always ignore valid points and proof of the opposing viewpoint when your argument fails... because WE'RE the one's who are stupid.

It's gotta be a lonely place where you live... Alas, I'm being ignored... darn. I guess my fun times are done goading you into these little outbursts is over... I guess I'll just have to watch it happen with everyone else who does the same thing to you, which is equally entertaining. Then I guess you'll igore them too at some point... and maybe you'll leave the site. I'm pretty sure Trip will have to shut this place down because you're the only source of logic, reason, and unbiased fact... Or maybe you'll forget about this in a few days and we'll be doing this little dance again...

http://mindlesscomfort.files.wordpre...ntertained.jpg

Dude, you've already quoted me after saying you were going to ignore me TWICE! :lol:

You can't even hold out for an hour! I'm like a fucking drug to you man! :lmao:

Should have parlayed that bet... :lol

Tommy is the one that made the crack about Sharpton. Then Smittie said there were no black people involved.

OSP, nice try. You weren't being devil's anything. You just (as usual) took an automatic opposing viewpoint to me, made all kinds of assumptions, and didn't even seek to see what the story was really about, before you had a knee-jerk, ignorant response...that's all.

It's the cover-up that looks so childish, bro.

I forgive you, ok? Don't be sad. You didn't really upset me.

I don't take conversations on the Internet very seriously, bro...it's just a way for me to blow off steam, and let F-bombs fly about the shit that riles me.

Dude, you totally suck at the ignoring people thing. :lol:

JC

I feel the same way about him, he kinda regained some credibility in the 90's but then went back to the same old nonsense, an dhe was the worst withthe Sean bell thing mugging for the camera and positioning himself for a windfall from the lawsuit. And now hes doing it with that lady who got shot, the daughter went to him and is posing with him, shes past caring that her mother got shot and is looking for a payday from the city

Actually, taking the opposing viewpoint for the sake of taking an opposing viewpoint is the definition of playing devil's advocate.

I guess we can both agree that I'm as addictive as crack... I just wonder if I'm more of a head buzz, a body buzz, a hallucinogen, or some combination of the three... I'd like to think I'm a mellow head buzz, with intense colors, and a nearly incapacitating body buzz...

Regardless, I guess it's pretty easy to fall off the wagon with me coursing through your veins...

I guess you forgot the time I ignored Dave for so long, he actually thought I had him on my ignore list (I don't have one).

You're not talking about when he (or was it Jesse) went to Bosnia and got those POWs? That was Bosnia really wanting to stick it to America.

jesse went to Bosnia, Al kinda kept his mouth shut for a while and got a little more mainstream for a bit then went back to his old nonsense. A lot of people find it funny how he wont do any real community work to help with all the violence but the second NYPD screws up hes all over it.

I have another rule that Sharpton fails. The "never trust a man with funny hair" rule.

That goes for crazy homies like Al as well as those cracker-azz Southern Senators with dead animals on their heads.

I call it my "What do you wash that with, 'Gee your hair looks suspicious'?" rule-of-thumb.

Forget?

Oh hell no. I make it a point to keep track of any time you ignore somebody on the interweb, on account of how uber-fucking fascinating it is.

It's really quite spellbinding.

JC

Good. It would appear I'm here for everyone's amusement, then.

That's me. See Avatar(d).

[Python]That's not an argument, that's just contradiction[/Python]

I get the Devil's Advocate thing. I do it myself.

I just wish you'd do it more for insightful reasons, and less for merely incite-full reasons. It would surely make for better discussion.

:shrug:

Maybe if your mind wasn't closed tighter than a steel bear trap, trying to be insightful with you wouldn't be an excercise in futility. Like it or not, OSP nailed your MO play-by-play. Once someone has seen it a few hundred times your next move is easier to predict than the end of a porn scene.

And you calling someone out for being inciteful is slightly less ridiculous than Speed Addiction slamming anybody for dishonesty.

Haven't bothered to watch the news about this particular non-story, but I'll comment anyways.....

What's the point of a protest on Wall Street? Do the protestors even have a specific agenda or specific complaint? Or is it just "It's not right for people to make big money while we're stuck working at Panera Bread"

What the fuck are you talking about? I often post shit, and don't comment for two pages. Sometimes I agree with the article, sometimes I don't. Most of the time, I sit back and let others comment a bit first, as I'm here for discussion, not to preach.

Oddly, however, I can count on one of four people stumbling into nearly every thread, and saying something not only stupid, but that which shows they didn't even really pay any attention to the subject.

WTF are you here for then? Yeah. That pisses me off, because I'm here for discussion.

:shrug:

This makes me a bad guy? Whatever. I don't get it.

Actually, that's one of the oddities of their "movement", apparently.

Nobody really knows what they're "against" or who they're blaming, and exactly for what. There seems to be no consensus.

What the "story" really is here, is the Police being assholes about people with cameras...again.

As the video I posted stated, the really sad thing is that most cops there are really the nation's finest, and comported themselves remarkably professionally. A few bad apples, some real cowards, were the "star of the show" here. A very sad display of unprofessionalism, and an embarrassment to NYC, IMHO as well.

On the subject of filming the police, and why it should be done
 

Case in point:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...incident.shtml

From what I gather..
The Wall Street protest is:
1% protest
99% "I want to be part of something" (aka I have some free time on my hands and maybe it will be fun....)

Its reminds me of Glee.
"All the mean jocks (bankers) dont like us so we are going to go sing and then everyone will like us."

Fag.

:lol

So far the only people I've known to be glee fans are high school girls and people who want to be high school girls (whether that be an actual high school girl, college chick...soccer mom..or dude)

I thought Glee was like American Idol except for people with slightly more talent.

Man, all jokes aside. Fuck you if you support this kind of thing, fuck you big time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OYIV...layer_embedded

Thanks, Josh. I posted that shit on page 4, but this thread oddly became about something else for a time. Thanks for posting that again for clarity, in case anyone missed it in the melee.

That's what it seemed like to me... :lol: