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Trip 11-14-2008 02:42 PM

VS Admin thread
 
Interesting read from a former VS employee and other forum admins including yours truly:

http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=39544

Interesting numbers, I wonder if they are true.

Site: gsxr.com
Posts: 400,000
Price: $41,000
Admin Pay: $400/mo

Site: twowheelforum.com
Posts: 400,000
Price: $38,000
Admin Pay: $400/mo

Site: kawiforums.com
Posts: 1,000,000
Price: $75,000
Admin Pay: $450/mo

Site: r1-forum.com
Posts: 3,000,000
Price: $300,000
Admin Pay: $1500/mo

Papa_Complex 11-14-2008 02:43 PM

I was hearing more like 1/10th those numbers, but it was all second and third hand.

Trip 11-14-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 98205)
I was hearing more like 1/10th those numbers, but it was all second and third hand.

these numbers look pretty accurate, it would really take some cash for Shan to sell TwoWheelForum.com because it is #2 on google search for motorcycle forum.

Trip 11-14-2008 02:51 PM

Classic post by that guy about Stewie:

Quote:

I personally know the current forum manager of the above mentioned site. I worked with him before, his back ground in not in community management, he was a photographer for Modified Magazine (acquired from VS, click here to see a story by him). I believe he has aprox. 16 minutes per day per site on avg, what can you possibly get done in that time?
Overall, can he get the job done, I believe so providing more resources are provided to him. Stew is an OK guy and really, only time will tell if he is the right man for the job.

Would I let him run a forum of mine, not a chance in hell.
Story by Stew

http://www.modified.com/events/artic...w-england.html

Papa_Complex 11-14-2008 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98210)
these numbers look pretty accurate, it would really take some cash for Shan to sell TwoWheelForum.com because it is #2 on google search for motorcycle forum.

You've got to remember, I've been hearing about and seeing this stuff for quite a while. It could be that the value of fora has gone up considerably. Laidlaw made pretty big news up here when he started out.

Rider 11-14-2008 02:53 PM

Nice post Nick. I know you wont sell to VS but how long to you think it will take before VS comes knocking at your door with an offer? 500 members? 1000 members? 10000 members?

Trip 11-14-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 98225)
Nice post Nick. I know you wont sell to VS but how long to you think it will take before VS comes knocking at your door with an offer? 500 members? 1000 members? 10000 members?

I doubt they will, I have harassed them too much for them to want to give me money. The only reason I could see is to shut my ass up.

Rider 11-14-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98227)
I doubt they will, I have harassed them too much for them to want to give me money. The only reason I could see is to shut my ass up.

Internet terrorism FTMFW. :rockwoot:

Trip 11-14-2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 98223)
You've got to remember, I've been hearing about and seeing this stuff for quite a while. It could be that the value of fora has gone up considerably. Laidlaw made pretty big news up here when he started out.

You could be right, I just couldn't see throwing away years of labor and love for $3800. Shan also had to split it 3 ways with his partners. I just don't see it worth that low of a price to him.

pauldun170 11-14-2008 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98221)
Classic post by that guy about Stewie:



Story by Stew

http://www.modified.com/events/artic...w-england.html

This might be him...

ducati_atx 11-14-2008 03:03 PM

that guy is sloppy.

marko138 11-14-2008 03:06 PM

Interesting.

VatorMan 11-14-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 98254)
Interesting.

Very.

Dave 11-14-2008 04:55 PM

hrmmm. shouldnt be to awful hard to get some personal info if he worked for modified...

Particle Man 11-14-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 98407)
hrmmm. shouldnt be to awful hard to get some personal info if he worked for modified...

is it worth the effort?

Trip 11-14-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 98407)
hrmmm. shouldnt be to awful hard to get some personal info if he worked for modified...

leave stew's personal life alone, it's fun to pick on him while he is at work, but the dude is just collecting a paycheck, he isn't VS.

Dave 11-14-2008 05:09 PM

hokie dokie

pauldun170 11-14-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98431)
leave stew's personal life alone, it's fun to pick on him while he is at work, but the dude is just collecting a paycheck, he isn't VS.


agreed

Gas Man 11-14-2008 11:50 PM

$38,000

interesting...

makes me feel even more jipped

marko138 11-15-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 98862)
$38,000

interesting...

makes me feel even more jipped

No doubt.

Trip 11-15-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 98862)
$38,000

interesting...

makes me feel even more jipped

yeah, that's not really a lot of money for having a #2 rating on google for the best keywords.

marko138 11-15-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 99069)
yeah, that's not really a lot of money for having a #2 rating on google for the best keywords.

Still a fair amount of scratch.

Sixxxxer 11-15-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98221)
Classic post by that guy about Stewie:



Story by Stew

http://www.modified.com/events/artic...w-england.html

That Guy Must take Pictures with a disposable camera...And I could Def write a better story in my sleep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 98240)
You could be right, I just couldn't see throwing away years of labor and love for $3800. Shan also had to split it 3 ways with his partners. I just don't see it worth that low of a price to him.

It says 38,000 not 3800...But even still I would have thought more...Look at R1 Forum...Holy Jeebus!

Angee 11-15-2008 11:13 AM

What's sad is for those who can't afford to say no or bother researching the buyer, these things are common. VS takes advantage of the situation the owners of the sites are in and makes all these false promises knowing that once the takeover is complete, there's nothing the former owners can do but try to save face. What's even worse is that they make the former owners sign a non-compete agreement... Honestly, if I had the resources, I would give those jackasses at VS a run for their money just for spite. Build a server, host a dozen or so sites, and run to all the boards and quietly, privately generate interest until I had all their clientele. Yeah, I know...wishful thinking. I was thinking this week of building a forum for the ladies, but I honestly don't have the time to dedicate to it. I'm glad you guys let us squat here, thanks!

Gas Man 11-16-2008 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 99071)
Still a fair amount of scratch.

Exactly... could have at least tossed a gift card to outback or somin for the time in... somin...

Am i off base here Marko?

marko138 11-17-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 99747)
Exactly... could have at least tossed a gift card to outback or somin for the time in... somin...

Am i off base here Marko?

I don't think you're off at all. I mean do all of us deserve something like that? I dont know. Maybe we do, maybe we don't. But a guy like yourself who put in all the years, all the hours, the dedication....I'd cut you in somehow. I understand your position.

Trip 11-17-2008 09:48 AM

shan split it 3 ways with his partners whatever he got, plus he made some scratch each month he was on contract.

marko138 11-17-2008 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 101008)
shan split it 3 ways with his partners whatever he got, plus he made some scratch each month he was on contract.

Who were these partners?

Trip 11-17-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 101033)
Who were these partners?

they were never on the site, he referred to them when he was explaining why he did it.

marko138 11-17-2008 10:25 AM

Eh, whatever. It's over anyway.

Gas Man 11-17-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 101038)
they were never on the site, he referred to them when he was explaining why he did it.

Yes they were...

one worked for the magazine
the other handled the host/server stuff
shan handled the daily posting and admin stuff

Gas Man 11-17-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 101003)
I don't think you're off at all. I mean do all of us deserve something like that? I dont know. Maybe we do, maybe we don't. But a guy like yourself who put in all the years, all the hours, the dedication....I'd cut you in somehow. I understand your position.

I'm not saying... big money... but damn... maybe a dinner for me and the wife. I have sent gift cards to people out of state for less. his POV was nobody made us, it was volentary. sure it was, but it wasn't about profit at the time either.

Trip 11-17-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 101494)
Yes they were...

one worked for the magazine
the other handled the host/server stuff
shan handled the daily posting and admin stuff

Usernames?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 101495)
I'm not saying... big money... but damn... maybe a dinner for me and the wife. I have sent gift cards to people out of state for less. his POV was nobody made us, it was volentary. sure it was, but it wasn't about profit at the time either.

yeah, cold blooded.

Mr Lefty 11-17-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 101495)
I'm not saying... big money... but damn... maybe a dinner for me and the wife. I have sent gift cards to people out of state for less. his POV was nobody made us, it was volentary. sure it was, but it wasn't about profit at the time either.

yeah I thought he'd at least have taken care of you Gas...


damn... weak sauce

Gas Man 11-17-2008 05:01 PM

Damn right weaksauce... but now I would rather hold on to my bitterness than get shit. That's right... I'm old enough to stay bitter and young enough not to give a fuck what people think about it. :D

Troy
admin

were the names

Trip 11-17-2008 05:05 PM

anyone heard from him lately?

Mr Lefty 11-17-2008 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 101518)
Damn right weaksauce... but now I would rather hold on to my bitterness than get shit. That's right... I'm old enough to stay bitter and young enough not to give a fuck what people think about it. :D

Troy
admin

were the names

I would to. you put in A LOT of fuck'n work there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 101525)
anyone heard from him lately?

Shan? shit... no he came over to bitch at us because we tore down his baby and haven't seen him... honestly... no intrest in seeing him.

Gas Man 11-17-2008 06:11 PM

No shit right!

Mr Lefty 11-17-2008 06:19 PM

well it was/is much appreciated... at least from my end.

Amber Lamps 11-17-2008 07:11 PM

On another note,did you see Modified Mags "Model Search" area....:drool:

http://www.modified.com/modifiedgirl...fiedgirls.html

marko138 11-18-2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 101518)
Damn right weaksauce... but now I would rather hold on to my bitterness than get shit. That's right... I'm old enough to stay bitter and young enough not to give a fuck what people think about it. :D

You and I become more alike everyday! :lol:

Gas Man 11-18-2008 09:01 PM

But who is who becoming more alike? That is the epic question. :lol:

Dnyce 11-19-2008 12:38 AM

once this site gets mega huge, would it be wrong to sell it to vs for $200,000 with the intention of starting a new, better funded and self sufficient one with the core members?

or would that be betrayal?

just a question, as obviously i'd get no money, but i do respect most of u mofos opinions and knowledge, and wouldnt care where i was conversing with those ppl, as long as it was possible.

Trip 11-19-2008 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnyce (Post 103017)
once this site gets mega huge, would it be wrong to sell it to vs for $200,000 with the intention of starting a new, better funded and self sufficient one with the core members?

or would that be betrayal?

just a question, as obviously i'd get no money, but i do respect most of u mofos opinions and knowledge, and wouldnt care where i was conversing with those ppl, as long as it was possible.

That would actually be really funny to do that, I am sure I would have to sign a contract that told me I couldn't though.

marko138 11-19-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 102758)
But who is who becoming more alike? That is the epic question. :lol:

One thing is for sure. I'm getting older.

NeonspeedRT 11-19-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 103150)
That would actually be really funny to do that, I am sure I would have to sign a contract that told me I couldn't though.

But you could always be a silent financial partner and "tech advisor" to the new site :whistle:

There is a way around everything :dthumb:

marko138 11-19-2008 09:06 AM

Ain't that the truth.

neebelung 11-19-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeonspeedRT (Post 103260)
But you could always be a silent financial partner and "tech advisor" to the new site :whistle:

There is a way around everything :dthumb:

(as long as he gives the tech advisors a cut :lol: ;) )

Trip 11-19-2008 09:12 AM

$10 gift card to cracker barrel

neebelung 11-19-2008 09:13 AM

:rofl:

marko138 11-19-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 103279)
$10 gift card to cracker barrel

:lol:

Rider 11-19-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 103279)
$10 gift card to cracker barrel

No thanks. I like food that I need to chew.


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