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Rangerscott 07-17-2010 11:53 PM

Honda VFR oil cooler swap
 
I'm tired of the oil and coolant cooling system on this bike so I'm gonna use my high school and some college brain to do it how the brainy acts over on the little island should have done it. I might get a raging brainer over this.


Here's the three Honda's. From top to bottom. 5th gen - 6th gen - RC51 ('00-'01)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...rmod1Large.jpg


5th gen cooler

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler1Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler2Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler3Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler4Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler5Large.jpg


6th gen

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler1Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler2Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler3Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler4Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler5Large.jpg


RC51

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler1Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler2Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler3Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler4Large.jpg

As you can see. The ports are a tad bigger.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler5Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler6Large.jpg



GSXR 1000

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler1Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler2Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...oler3Large.jpg

Amber Lamps 07-18-2010 12:01 PM

Geez...where do you get all these spare parts? Anyway, I'm guessing you're going to fab the superior Suzuki part to your Honda. It looks pretty simple to me. Do the lines from the GSXR fit your bike?

Rangerscott 07-18-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 393939)
Geez...where do you get all these spare parts? Anyway, I'm guessing you're going to fab the superior Suzuki part to your Honda. It looks pretty simple to me. Do the lines from the GSXR fit your bike?

I'll be using the RC51. The GSXR is a last resort. Also if would probably cool too much in the winter.


The cool thing about lines is you see where the crimp is. You can actually cut that off and reveal a nipple where the hose slide onto.

Gas Man 07-18-2010 04:46 PM

I don't think running too much rad area is really a problem... come on

Rangerscott 07-18-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 393985)
I don't think running too much rad area is really a problem... come on

Not for an air cooled sissy bike like yours. The main problem is the side rads. The weird is it runs like every vfr in the summer. 180's on the highway and in the 200's in traffic or slow riding, but in the winter it has a hard time keeping 170F on the highway. I've changed the T-stat and even block 1 rad, but barely keeps it in the "warm" range. I'll defiantly have to block oil rad now.

Rangerscott 07-19-2010 01:08 AM

Got her done.

Loosened the stock cooler and let it hang.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap1Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap10Large.jpg


I was hoping I wouldn't but I had to drain the oil. I tried using an 8mm wrench, but the bolt started stripping. Had to get a socket on them.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap2Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap3Large.jpg


Once the oil drains, then you can unbolt the oil lines from the engine.

Left side.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap4Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap6Large.jpg

Right side.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap5Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap9Large.jpg


Luckily the O-rings look brand new. Not even smashed.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap8Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...swap7Large.jpg


Might as well wash the lines. Just tiny spot rust here and there. Maybe I'll order new ones or have them powder coated.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap11Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap12Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap13Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap14Large.jpg

Rangerscott 07-19-2010 01:09 AM

Time to temporary mount the RC cooler.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap15Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap16Large.jpg


The mount on the cooler is more offset than the stock one. It'll be a little closer to the right rad.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap17Large.jpg


Here's the fun tedious fun part. Bending the lines to fit. You'll be pulling them out and putting back multiple times. The right one I used a rubber mallet. I placed the right oil line on the ground with the cooler mount upward. I smacked it down with the mallet. No science there.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap18Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap19Large.jpg


The left side you have to twist the oil cooler line where it bolts to the cooler. I used a pair of pliers and my manly strength. Of course a vise would have made it easier.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap29Large.jpg


Once they're lined up as good as possible, get the engine side ready.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap20Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap21Large.jpg


The middle o-ring is what I used. I also used one smaller one to fit inside that one. Double the sealing. LOL

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap23Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap24Large.jpg

Bolt the oil cooler lines on first, then bolt the cooler to it's brackets second, and last bolt the engine side of the oil lines.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap25Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap26Large.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap27Large.jpg


The right side does have a slight problem. Since the line is lowered from the oil rad being taller.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap28Large.jpg


The left side has no problem with hitting anything.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...wap30Large.jpg

Rangerscott 07-19-2010 01:47 AM

Here's what a high pressure line looks like when you cut the crimp off.

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,88319.0.html

6doublefive321 07-19-2010 12:23 PM

Just curious... what made you think that the Jap engineers don't know how to design cooling systems?

Gas Man 07-19-2010 11:42 PM

So why are you swapping again?


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