[RACER X]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey I'll give you that! I had a Vanson Star jacket and I went down HARD! Other than some scrapes, it held up awesome but for $600+ dollars...

whats your skin and piece of mind worth ?

I also agree that you can't ever exactly compare two crashes, so I concede that but I appreciate the fact that you recognize my point about overlay vs seams. BTW it goes without saying then that just because you saw one crash with some breaking an ankle wearing "similar" boots doesn't mean that these will also cause a broken ankle...aha!

overlay vs seams.....overlay sounds like it makes more sense, but then are so many dynamics in a crash. i'll take crash tested vs makes sense.

how are your riding boots made? w/ a high heel or low? whats it easier for women to walk in sandals or high heels, now add in an emergancy stop and having to plant your foot, and those boots are disaster waiting to happen. i'm of the better safe then sorry addage.

I also agree that there are vast differences in mesh jackets as well but I'll take Icon's armor over that BMW (Heine Gerick?) armor. Icon uses a proprietary dual density-two stage armor while most others use off the shelf single stage armor. It's funny a BMW guy wants to compare a $400+ jacket to a $150 jacket and claim superiority. Take a look in that jacket and tell me if it doesn't say "Made in China" on the inside. Also, Icon has God on their side because they put a St. Christopher's medallion in every jacket!

dunno who makes BMW gear/armor, my guess it's BMW. it does meet CE standards, does ICON ( i don't know.)

your skin your $, i'm not lookin to cheap out my gear. but thats me.

no made in china tag that i can find, no "made in" anywhere at a quick glance.