Can't say I'm feeling bad for this dumbass dead rider

[marko138]

Originally Posted by skiergirl

How do you know he did that? because the guy that ran him over said so? there's a reliable source....and who was the witness? the guys wife...

4th paragraph states 'witnesses'.

[skiergirl]

The guy driving and his wife...that would be witnesses....all it takes it 2.

I'm just saying everyone can take sides and argue but not one of us saw it or knows anything more than what some guy wrote in the paper. And we all know the news is always 100% accurate.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by marko138

4th paragraph states 'witnesses'.

Okay, here's where I lower even the lowest opinion of me... I've done exactly what this guy is accused of doing in the past. Mostly when idiots are tailgating me on the freeway. Now in my defense, I drop it in second and am prepared to gas it if necessary but a stupid maneuver none the less.

[smileyman]

The only time a brake check truly works is with stock car racing restarts. Any other time it is better to kick em on the way by or fling up the old proverbial pocket full of bb's as you pull away...

[Trip]

Originally Posted by smileyman

The only time a brake check truly works is with stock car racing restarts. Any other time it is better to kick em on the way by or fling up the old proverbial pocket full of bb's as you pull away...

Too true, brake checking cars/RVs/Semis on a motorcycle is fucking retards. It's not just going to be a minor fender bender like in a car. Give em a good ole kick to the sheet metal if you got that much of a problem with them or a nice big spit like Rider suggested..

[z06boy]

Cagers have pizzed me off before and I have flipped people off and I'm sure I'll do it again BUT one has to be ready for the possible consequences when doing this and performing a brake check while on a bike is about as ignorant as it gets imho.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Cagers have pizzed me off before and I have flipped people off and I'm sure I'll do it again BUT one has to be ready for the possible consequences when doing this and performing a brake check while on a bike is about as ignorant as it gets imho.

Yep I agree! Even when I've done it myself I know that it's stupid! Now a days I just light up my brake lights... that almost produces the same effect. It's like when we used to do wheelies down the freeway, it's dangerous sure but if you know what you're doing... I won't try to justify 90% of the shit I've done on a motorcycle in the past. Anymore than I'll try and justify the crazy shit I've done off a bike either. IMO if the guy on the bike had known what he was doing, he could have frightened the driver of the RV without risking his own life.

BTW damaging someone's vehicle (bb's, marbles, kicking, etc) can just as easily result in death if you fuck with the wrong motherfucker on the wrong day!

My buddy Junior, RIP, used to carry almost pinball sized ball bearing with him in a tank bag. Well, one day, day before he died-no bs, a guy in a red Chevy pick up accidentally cut us off flying down Leonard on our way to Grand Haven. So Jr passes him and hits him with a volley of 4 or 5 balls and takes off! FUCK! Now it's on! This guy chases us for the better part of 5 miles before he finally "gives up" and we lose him in the twists and turns of the road. Apparently, the guys in the back had a couple close calls!

Well, we get to GH and are sitting in our normal "biker lot" by the beach. I convince Jr that maybe he should take off because that guy looked pretty pissed. Not 10 minutes later, here comes that guy in the pick up screeching to a stop maybe 2 feet from our bikes. Screaming and waving a rifle. You could see 3 maybe 4 "divots" on the body of the truck and a nice crack in the windshield! You could also see the paper dealer plate in the rear window.... Of course the guy starts screaming about how he's gonna call the cops and we agree that we're sure that they'd be interested in how he tried to murder guys who had nothing to do with it.... He left, we left, Jr died the next day doing wheelies on a side street off Alpine...

These days, I just avoid the idiots and shake my head as I go past... what's the point? If you do anything to them, they'll just be angry with you. People don't accept responsibility or blame anymore. I picked up my gf's bike last night from her work because it was raining and she was afraid to ride it. Some girl in a Honda totally cut me off. I just rode around her and gave her the "thanks for almost killing me" look and rode on. What's the point? It's not like they're going to learn anything. Shit, if I were to do anything then I'd be possibly facing criminal charges.

[Rider]

I know that route Tigger, Ive taken it several times. The "biker" lot you mentioned, would that happen to be the taco stand?

[goof2]

I generally don't think it is worth it to "teach a cager a lesson" which will probably not sink in. I am certainly not going to brake check a vehicle with a driver who is not paying attention (they did something stupid to piss me off in the first place) and has shitty brakes when I am the only crumple zone on the bike.

Doing something stupid that risks my life because someone else did something stupid that risked my life doesn't make much sense to me.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yep I agree! Even when I've done it myself I know that it's stupid! Now a days I just light up my brake lights... that almost produces the same effect. It's like when we used to do wheelies down the freeway, it's dangerous sure but if you know what you're doing... I won't try to justify 90% of the shit I've done on a motorcycle in the past. Anymore than I'll try and justify the crazy shit I've done off a bike either. IMO if the guy on the bike had known what he was doing, he could have frightened the driver of the RV without risking his own life.

BTW damaging someone's vehicle (bb's, marbles, kicking, etc) can just as easily result in death if you fuck with the wrong motherfucker on the wrong day!

My buddy Junior, RIP, used to carry almost pinball sized ball bearing with him in a tank bag. Well, one day, day before he died-no bs, a guy in a red Chevy pick up accidentally cut us off flying down Leonard on our way to Grand Haven. So Jr passes him and hits him with a volley of 4 or 5 balls and takes off! FUCK! Now it's on! This guy chases us for the better part of 5 miles before he finally "gives up" and we lose him in the twists and turns of the road. Apparently, the guys in the back had a couple close calls!

Well, we get to GH and are sitting in our normal "biker lot" by the beach. I convince Jr that maybe he should take off because that guy looked pretty pissed. Not 10 minutes later, here comes that guy in the pick up screeching to a stop maybe 2 feet from our bikes. Screaming and waving a rifle. You could see 3 maybe 4 "divots" on the body of the truck and a nice crack in the windshield! You could also see the paper dealer plate in the rear window.... Of course the guy starts screaming about how he's gonna call the cops and we agree that we're sure that they'd be interested in how he tried to murder guys who had nothing to do with it.... He left, we left, Jr died the next day doing wheelies on a side street off Alpine...

These days, I just avoid the idiots and shake my head as I go past... what's the point? If you do anything to them, they'll just be angry with you. People don't accept responsibility or blame anymore. I picked up my gf's bike last night from her work because it was raining and she was afraid to ride it. Some girl in a Honda totally cut me off. I just rode around her and gave her the "thanks for almost killing me" look and rode on. What's the point? It's not like they're going to learn anything. Shit, if I were to do anything then I'd be possibly facing criminal charges.

You're right...it's not really worth in the overall scheme of things.

Pretty crazy about your friend.

I rode thru Grand Haven several years ago with my ex that was from Grand Rapids...nice azz place !!