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Old 11-28-2008, 01:37 PM   #1
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Should have added the 95-05 Pontiac Sunfire to the list..........Total POS. The rear suspension wasn't independant, so it shuddered like a pickup truck in bumpy corners. Also if you tried to look over your shoulder before changing lanes, you wouldn't see shit because of the bodywork in the way.
Same chassis as the cavalier.

Bottom line is they have built shit vehicles for decades and passed them off because there was no viable alternative. They really did sell out for short term greed, and that is where the Japanese always win. They look at the long term and have slowly out paced the domestics. First they srtove to compete then they strove to dominate. GM, Chrysler, Ford deserve to reap what they have sown...
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:20 PM   #2
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Looking back on the 80's and 90's, GM, Ford and Chysler put some entertaining cars on the road.
Only problem was they were off the road once 80K was on the odo.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:22 PM   #3
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Same chassis as the cavalier.

Bottom line is they have built shit vehicles for decades and passed them off because there was no viable alternative. They really did sell out for short term greed, and that is where the Japanese always win. They look at the long term and have slowly out paced the domestics. First they srtove to compete then they strove to dominate. GM, Chrysler, Ford deserve to reap what they have sown...

I remember when Cavalier Z-24's (late 80's) with a 5spd and the 2.8 were pretty respectable. May not have been the most reliable cars but were relatively fun for the time period.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:54 PM   #4
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I remember when Cavalier Z-24's (late 80's) with a 5spd and the 2.8 were pretty respectable. May not have been the most reliable cars but were relatively fun for the time period.
I was about to say that cavaliers,berettas were the popular street race machines against the z28/mustangs at least in my town
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Old 11-28-2008, 03:08 PM   #5
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I remember when Cavalier Z-24's (late 80's) with a 5spd and the 2.8 were pretty respectable. May not have been the most reliable cars but were relatively fun for the time period.
I had an '89 Z-24 convertable back in the day... it was a POS, but chicks dug it... I knew a guy who had a '91 or so and put a 4.3L in it... it was pretty fucking slick.
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