2010 moty

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

An adventure doesn't have to be hardcore dirt, it can be even on road... The GS is one of the best all around bikes and thus great for an adventure bike. It's amazing for touring, it's a shitty dirt bike, it's an awesome primitive road bike, it's a fuckin amazing road bike, it can carry a ton. It's got a lot of positives.

A DRZ is not even a one trick pony. It's mediocre at every thing it does. It's a shitty dirt bike, it's a shitty touring bike, it's very hindered by it's 5 gears.

Hell, I really want a WR250X to replace my DRZ because it's like a DRZ on crack. It's so much lighter and better for true dirt, it's got EFI, it's got a 6th gear for road fun. It's got the same power.

Too many people associate adventure riding with dirt, that's not everything adventure is about. They already have a name for that, it's called dirt riding. They already got a name for on and off road, it's dual sport. Adventure is just getting out there and having a blast and having an ADVENTURE, it can be any type of riding. Don't be a dumbass Jo Momma bitch and try to make it sound elitist.

I'm not knocking the GS... just saying I don't think it's the top ADVENTURE bike... IMO. too heavy. and carrying a lot IMO isn't a positive... just adds more weight... and useless items.

The DRZ sucks in the states for touring... because of the long distances and our (american's) need to get everywhere fast. but I've got no complaints other than the seat. which, I've yet to find a bike that had a stock seat that was great (I'm sure there are a couple out there... just not the majority) but get out of the US... the speeds slow down and the DRZ is fine. shit I can still do 75 all day and get 45mpg... did that with Gas for 750+miles.

I wasn't trying to turn this into a my bike is better than that one argument. Just trying to state that these awards are fucking bullshit and there are far better bikes out there.

and Trip... they already have a name for what you described Adventure riding as too... it's called TOURING. I'm all about people getting out and riding... regardless of where you go or how you do it... it'll be an adventure (some more so than others). but I think if you take your definition of Dual sport riding... and Touring... you'll have what I in-vision as Adventure riding.

I wasn't trying to make anything sound elitist... wtf did that come from?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

I'm not knocking the GS... just saying I don't think it's the top ADVENTURE bike... IMO. too heavy. and carrying a lot IMO isn't a positive... just adds more weight... and useless items.

The DRZ sucks in the states for touring... because of the long distances and our (american's) need to get everywhere fast. but I've got no complaints other than the seat. which, I've yet to find a bike that had a stock seat that was great (I'm sure there are a couple out there... just not the majority) but get out of the US... the speeds slow down and the DRZ is fine. shit I can still do 75 all day and get 45mpg... did that with Gas for 750+miles.

I wasn't trying to turn this into a my bike is better than that one argument. Just trying to state that these awards are fucking bullshit and there are far better bikes out there.

and Trip... they already have a name for what you described Adventure riding as too... it's called TOURING. I'm all about people getting out and riding... regardless of where you go or how you do it... it'll be an adventure (some more so than others). but I think if you take your definition of Dual sport riding... and Touring... you'll have what I in-vision as Adventure riding.

I wasn't trying to make anything sound elitist... wtf did that come from?

I am not saying touring. I didn't say long distances at all or even having to go anywhere. I said just getting out there. You don't even need to go very far from your house to have an adventure.

Carrying a lot is a positive, you don't have to carry a ton, but having the ability is a positive for someone who wants to pack a lot if they are going on a very long trip.

This thread is just taking a turn that every adventure riding definition takes on adv rider. That's why I say elitist. Hell a harley can be a great adventure riding bike. I don't think there is a #1 adv bike. I think the #1 adv bike is the bike any person owns, because that's the bike you are going to have an adventure on.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

I am not saying touring. I didn't say long distances at all or even having to go anywhere. I said just getting out there. You don't even need to go very far from your house to have an adventure.

Carrying a lot is a positive, you don't have to carry a ton, but having the ability is a positive for someone who wants to pack a lot if they are going on a very long trip.

This thread is just taking a turn that every adventure riding definition takes on adv rider. That's why I say elitist. Hell a harley can be a great adventure riding bike. I don't think there is a #1 adv bike. I think the #1 adv bike is the bike any person owns, because that's the bike you are going to have an adventure on.

then what's the point of the category then if every bike can be an adventure bike?

I agree the best bike, is the bike your sitting on... but to stir the pot a bit using your definition... I think you'll have more of an adventure on a moped than a GS... after all... getting into things way over your head is an adventure! just like the Top Gear episode with the $1000 bikes!

[Trip]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

then what's the point of the category then if every bike can be an adventure bike?

I agree the best bike, is the bike your sitting on... but to stir the pot a bit using your definition... I think you'll have more of an adventure on a moped than a GS... after all... getting into things way over your head is an adventure! just like the Top Gear episode with the $1000 bikes!

It's a stupid category. I agree.

That episode was awesome, but I don't think it was the bikes. It was the people that made it fun.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

It's a stupid category. I agree.

That episode was awesome, but I don't think it was the bikes. It was the people that made it fun.

fun yes... adventure no.

remember an adventure isn't always fun nor enjoyable. had they done the same thing on GS1200's or DRZ's or any larger bike... it wouldn't have been much of an adventure... and they'd have a lot more work on their hands to make it worth while to air. (but I'm sure it would have still been a blast)

[Trip]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

fun yes... adventure no.

remember an adventure isn't always fun nor enjoyable. had they done the same thing on GS1200's or DRZ's or any larger bike... it wouldn't have been much of an adventure... and they'd have a lot more work on their hands to make it worth while to air. (but I'm sure it would have still been a blast)

There you go adding elitist stipulations to it again. You don't have to have a hard time or it be difficult to be an adventure. I am sure they could of made it entertaining because Jeremy couldn't even ride before the show. And the pranks would of still been just as funny. They maybe wouldn't of had the threat to run the American bike though.

Being entertaining for a forum or television show isn't a requirement for an adventure.