250 is the new 1000, the 2011 cbr250r.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

How do you figure? More twitchy in handling than a big bike?

I used to race pocketbikes. Fast ones. Real ones...from Italy.

I used to crack up when even experienced racers of bigger bikes would get their fucking clocks cleaned. Trip can probably chime in here, because he races fiddys.

It's kinda like what you get when you balance a broom on your hand...you can do that, right? Now try a pencil. No go. Too fast to follow.

Shorter level moves away from center of balance far too fast.

Same with smaller bikes. Far faster reacting.

Same lever, only inverted. Shorter lever, faster reaction.

[z06boy]

Cute little bikes but just doesn't do much for me. I can see new female riders being attracted to these.

Now the 400's as mentioned...humm...yep I could see me interested in that.

As far as the comment about anything more than 500 hp in a rear wheel drive car(?)...sure...as long as that is at the wheels. That's where I'm at with my car and I'm fine with it. I'm not in to revving it up and dumping the clutch from the light anyways.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Avatard

I used to race pocketbikes. Fast ones. Real ones...from Italy.

I used to crack up when even experienced racers of bigger bikes would get their fucking clocks cleaned. Trip can probably chime in here, because he races fiddys.

It's kinda like what you get when you balance a broom on your hand...you can do that, right? Now try a pencil. No go. Too fast to follow.

Shorter level moves away from center of balance far too fast.

Same with smaller bikes. Far faster reacting.

Same lever, only inverted. Shorter lever, faster reaction.

The same would be true of a little bike racer who tried to jump into 600+. They'd get their clocks cleaned as well. For the first few races at least.

Personally I find larger cars & bikes to be more difficult, simply because of the weight & size. Try driving a Dodge Challenger as fast as you would drive an Elise or Miata down a very tight mountain road. You wouldn't, because the Dodge is much bigger and heavier, therefore making it much harder to read the steering & tires to predict when it's going to break traction. Not to mention you can't even see the boundaries of the road, because of how big that car is. Insecurity forces even the best drivers to slow down.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

I used to race pocketbikes. Fast ones. Real ones...from Italy.

I used to crack up when even experienced racers of bigger bikes would get their fucking clocks cleaned. Trip can probably chime in here, because he races fiddys.

It's kinda like what you get when you balance a broom on your hand...you can do that, right? Now try a pencil. No go. Too fast to follow.

Shorter level moves away from center of balance far too fast.

Same with smaller bikes. Far faster reacting.

Same lever, only inverted. Shorter lever, faster reaction.

Yeah, it's hard to describe how out of control a small machine is. If I ride the GS for awhile and not ride the fiddy for a few months, when I get on the fiddy I scare the ever living shit out of myself just by how quick it reacts and how unstable it is.

[defector]

Originally Posted by Trip

Yeah, it's hard to describe how out of control a small machine is. If I ride the GS for awhile and not ride the fiddy for a few months, when I get on the fiddy I scare the ever living shit out of myself just by how quick it reacts and how unstable it is.

Definitely takes some getting used to going between the mini and fullsize stuff. I do it almost monthly, and I have more pucker moments on the small stuff by far.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Trip

Yeah, it's hard to describe how out of control a small machine is. If I ride the GS for awhile and not ride the fiddy for a few months, when I get on the fiddy I scare the ever living shit out of myself just by how quick it reacts and how unstable it is.

Rossi started on pocketbikes. He still goes back to race them every so often. Hones the skills like a motherfucker.

Once you can dominate the faster reactions of the small bike, the big bike can seemingly do no wrong, as it appears to be moving in slow mo by comparison.

You can then better dominate the big thing because it seems lazy and predictable in contrast. Small bike is a great learning tool. Teaches you how to conserve corner speed too.

[smileyman]

Perhaps why so many champs start on 125s. Of course then there's Bayliss, never on anything smaller than a 750...I am sure there are example of each.