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Old 11-17-2008, 01:29 PM   #11
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Unfortunately that's correct, Ed.

I have state farm, known to be among the best / most generous, and they stated that they are only required to replace what the state mandates you to wear (i.e. a helmet in MA... if your state doesn't require them you might be out of luck in that area, too)

That's what they told me when I asked about repairing my leathers.
Helmet is required here, but they(Liberty Mutual) don't cover it.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:30 PM   #12
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I would try arguing with them. It is a required safety item and it was damaged. It's like if your airbag went off in your car. They have to replace that shit.

Basically just as a general rule, argue with them and never accept their first offer... I argued for a couple days and came out pretty well on the deal.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:40 PM   #13
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I would try arguing with them. It is a required safety item and it was damaged. It's like if your airbag went off in your car. They have to replace that shit.

Basically just as a general rule, argue with them and never accept their first offer... I argued for a couple days and came out pretty well on the deal.
Thanks for the advice Chris. I'll talk with them and see what they say.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:44 PM   #14
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Thanks for the advice Chris. I'll talk with them and see what they say.
I argued for a little while on an acciedent where someone hit me head on (relatively low speed, car accident) and ended up getting a pretty decent check for my pain/suffering on top of my repairs being covered. I wasnt even in any pain though so it was basically for my inconveinience.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:45 PM   #15
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Thanks for the advice Chris. I'll talk with them and see what they say.
No problem dude. Good luck.

It's not fun to be upset about wrecking your bike, and then on top of that have to deal with all sorts of paperwork and phone calls. You sort of just want it to be done and over with. I've been there. But a little persistence will help you come out better off.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:55 PM   #16
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Michigan is a no fault state. So the claim goes against my policy anyway no matter who is at fault.
Whoa buckaroo! Last I knew,Mi's no fault laws do not apply to motorcycles. When I was rear ended,the other guy's bike insurance paid for my bike and my medical because he was at fault.

Now as far as gear goes,some companies include a preset amount of gear coverage and some don't. If I were you,I'd look at my bike policy very closely... do not just trust the adjuster's word for it! Also,look into your auto policy and your home owner's policy. A lot of times,homeowner's insurance covers losses not covered by auto policies,like stolen and damaged personal items. Also,since another vehicle was involved,you may be able to claim your medical bills,lost work and your gear against his policy regardless of fault. Make sure you at least call them and check. Trust me,his truck ran over your leg,they would be MORE than happy to pay a couple medical bills,work days and for some gear than the cost of a lawsuit,win or lose! Besides,if they owe anything based on ins. law,your ins will subrogate the money from his company after the fact. Quite frankly,that guy probably called his ins company and they may be just waiting for you to call them.

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:12 PM   #17
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Its not a michigan thing... a buddy of mine had progresshit and they covered his jacket and helmet.

As soon as your done with this claim and shit... dump them and go state farm.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:49 PM   #18
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I have progressive. They would have covered any gear that was damaged- but they take whatever they pay for. I decided to keep everything except my gloves. They also pay for something like $3,000 in accessories.
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #19
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Whoa buckaroo! Last I knew,Mi's no fault laws do not apply to motorcycles. When I was rear ended,the other guy's bike insurance paid for my bike and my medical because he was at fault.

Now as far as gear goes,some companies include a preset amount of gear coverage and some don't. If I were you,I'd look at my bike policy very closely... do not just trust the adjuster's word for it! Also,look into your auto policy and your home owner's policy. A lot of times,homeowner's insurance covers losses not covered by auto policies,like stolen and damaged personal items. Also,since another vehicle was involved,you may be able to claim your medical bills,lost work and your gear against his policy regardless of fault. Make sure you at least call them and check. Trust me,his truck ran over your leg,they would be MORE than happy to pay a couple medical bills,work days and for some gear than the cost of a lawsuit,win or lose! Besides,if they owe anything based on ins. law,your ins will subrogate the money from his company after the fact. Quite frankly,that guy probably called his ins company and they may be just waiting for you to call them.
I already have a claim into his insurance company for the medical bills. They are covering them all. Really it's not a big deal. The only gear that was damaged was the helmet. MY gloves are perfect not a mark on them. My jacket is in great shape once I washed it(It's textile). My boots, who cares, I needed new ones anyway. I'll call his insurance company and see if they'll cover my helmet. If not it's not the end of the world. Helmets are relatively cheap considering their function and I wanted to buy a new one anyway.

Oh and there was no fault cited in the accident since they calculated I was going 36 in a 35. The driver of the truck should have had a flagger at the top of the hill but he is required to have one. I spoke with a friend of mine who is a personal injury attorney and he told me that really unless there is some permanent physical damage they limits my ability to maintain my current lifestyle, I really don't have a case. The way the laws are written, You have to reach a minimum pre defined threshold of monetary damage, and it doesn't look like I would come anywhere close to that. I had an MRI on Sunday, so when I get the results back form that, then we will know if there is any further action I need to take.

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Old 11-18-2008, 09:47 AM   #20
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I already have a claim into his insurance company for the medical bills. They are covering them all. Really it's not a big deal. The only gear that was damaged was the helmet. MY gloves are perfect not a mark on them. My jacket is in great shape once I washed it(It's textile). My boots, who cares, I needed new ones anyway. I'll call his insurance company and see if they'll cover my helmet. If not it's not the end of the world. Helmets are relatively cheap considering their function and I wanted to buy a new one anyway.

Oh and there was no fault cited in the accident since they calculated I was going 36 in a 35. The driver of the truck should have had a flagger at the top of the hill but he is required to have one. I spoke with a friend of mine who is a personal injury attorney and he told me that really unless there is some permanent physical damage they limits my ability to maintain my current lifestyle, I really don't have a case. The way the laws are written, You have to reach a minimum pre defined threshold of monetary damage, and it doesn't look like I would come anywhere close to that. I had an MRI on Sunday, so when I get the results back form that, then we will know if there is any further action I need to take.
OK, strange to me. In every state I've lived - it's been a no-fault state. Yet, in accidents that are clearly someone's fault THEIR insurance company has taken care of my damages.

I think you're being too nice.

36 in a 35? Let's talk error ratios, and the fact that getting an EXACT speed from a skid mark is impossible. I just did skid test training with a County Sheriff department at the track - no where in there did they EVER make an exact speed.

You are being TOO NICE and accepting their answers.

I'm not saying sue them. I'm saying just stand up a bit, it's alright. You aren't a bad person for doing it.
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