GM to shrink to four core brands in North America - Page 4

HRCNICK11 · 01-15-2009, 02:44 PM

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It is a good move, but unless they start selling cars that people actually want, and can maintain a reputation of reliability like the jap cars have, this may just be another nail in the coffin.

I hate it when people say dumb shit like this. Its not your fault your not dumb you just live on one of the coast where people don't drive trucks and SUVs.

You do know that one of the best selling autos in the US is the F150 and Chevy and GMC trucks do very well also. Keep in mind they do that with out the aid of huge amounts of rentals.

Just because they don't sell in big citys and on the coast does not mean people don't want them or buy them.

Come to Michigan its almost rare to see a car on the road, trucks and SUVs are the norm. Try MN lots of trucks. You don't live in Germany, if you did then your statement might be correct.

HRCNICK11 · 01-15-2009, 02:57 PM

My take on the subject.

Chevy should make SUVs and may be the Corvette.
Pontiac should make cars or if Chevy still makes cars Pontiac can be young crowd marketed cars maybe cazy small SUVs.
Buick should do high end rebadge of the above.
Caddy should make stuff that might need a driver/could be made into a limo.
GMC should make the trucks and Vans
Saab should be sold.
Saturn should go away or become the Hybreds or el-cheap-os.

Oh and for the record I work in the factorys not for the factorys. I work for a supplier of machines used in the factorys. I see the difference between Honda, Toyota and GM in the new factorys its not that different but in the old factorys its scary bad.

HRCNICK11 · 01-15-2009, 03:04 PM

Oh by the way what I wrote above can't happen because of CAFE standards they have to build a wide range of cars to meet the new rules. I don't know how GMC is meeting them cause they don't make small cars?

101lifts2 · 01-16-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

"Most Lexus's are built off Camry platforms"

IS - um...no Camry
ES - Um there be Camry underneath
GS - um....no Camry
LS - um....no Camry
SC - um....no Camry
RX - Um there be Camry underneath
GX - um....no Camry
LX - um....no Camry

That's 2 outta 8 you ignorant buffoon. Please refer to your Texas Instruments calculator before posting things.

Do you just make this up?....My bud works for Toyota in Torrance..or do you in New York know more?

Toyota can say that once the chassis is stretched it is no longer a Camry..but that really isn't the case.

101lifts2 · 01-16-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HRCNICK11

Oh by the way what I wrote above can't happen because of CAFE standards they have to build a wide range of cars to meet the new rules. I don't know how GMC is meeting them cause they don't make small cars?

They fall under the manufacturer, not the badging or the distributor.

pauldun170 · 01-16-2009, 10:44 AM

Your "bud" is just as much of a buffon as you if he thinks that the Camry platform forms the basis for "most" of Lexus's lineup.

...and you have got to be kidding me if having a buddy mechanic at a dealership give weight to your post.

Sixxxxer · 01-16-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

"Most Lexus's are built off Camry platforms"

IS - um...no Camry
ES - Um there be Camry underneath
GS - um....no Camry
LS - um....no Camry
SC - um....no Camry
RX - Um there be Camry underneath
GX - um....no Camry
LX - um....no Camry

That's 2 outta 8 you ignorant buffoon. Please refer to your Texas Instruments calculator before posting things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7cwH...eature=related

Homeslice · 01-17-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yeah like the Grand National.....

Yeah which was probably only 2% of Buick's sales.....

The real sellers are Park Avenues and LeSabres and bread & butter sedans like that.........Purchased primarily by age 65+

The only Buick that doesn't target oldsters is that SUV "crossover" whatever it's called

Homeslice · 01-17-2009, 08:00 PM

And as far as the Camry goes? Show me any manufacturer who has ever taken a FWD sedan and shared its platform with a RWD sedan (Lexus LS, GS and IS).........Doesn't happen.

Adeptus_Minor · 01-17-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yeah like the Grand National.....

There's something Buick should bring back... unfortunately they probably couldn't do it justice anymore.

01-15-2009, 02:57 PM	#32
HRCNICK11 Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 429	My take on the subject. Chevy should make SUVs and may be the Corvette. Pontiac should make cars or if Chevy still makes cars Pontiac can be young crowd marketed cars maybe cazy small SUVs. Buick should do high end rebadge of the above. Caddy should make stuff that might need a driver/could be made into a limo. GMC should make the trucks and Vans Saab should be sold. Saturn should go away or become the Hybreds or el-cheap-os. Oh and for the record I work in the factorys not for the factorys. I work for a supplier of machines used in the factorys. I see the difference between Honda, Toyota and GM in the new factorys its not that different but in the old factorys its scary bad.

01-15-2009, 03:04 PM	#33
HRCNICK11 Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 429	Oh by the way what I wrote above can't happen because of CAFE standards they have to build a wide range of cars to meet the new rules. I don't know how GMC is meeting them cause they don't make small cars?

01-17-2009, 08:00 PM	#39
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	And as far as the Camry goes? Show me any manufacturer who has ever taken a FWD sedan and shared its platform with a RWD sedan (Lexus LS, GS and IS).........Doesn't happen.