Making universal broadband service a reality - Page 9

askmrjesus · 12-26-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

256 kbps uploads might seem slow, but that's about all I get using my laptop card. What exactly are you going to be uploading all that much, anyway? Download speed is what's important.

I guess it depends on what you're doing. If you upload a lot of pics for websites or e-bay or whatever, 256 would suck balls, especially for $79.95 per month, plus an "enrollment fee" of $149.00, plus installation fees and the inevitable yadda fucking yadda fees.

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

And 5000 mb threshhold you say? That's 5GB, which is exactly what Verizon's so-called "unlimited" data plan offers. So again, I don't see the problem.

Cost is a problem.

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

These people could always drive to the town library

You mean the County library, which might not have computers yet.

Besides, libraries are run by the government, and books are bad, ok?

You know what the biggest objection to this kind of plan is?

LIBERTY!!!

Yeah, right. What a bunch of crap. All the people yelling about liberty, with their gay ass little snake flags, are full of shit. They don't like it because there's nothing it for them.

What they are too short sighted to see, is that the more money is there is being made, the more money there is being spent, and that benefits EVERYBODY.

Love it or hate it, internet based commerce is here to stay.

Adapt, or get out of the fucking way.

JC

Amorok · 12-26-2009, 06:30 PM

One of my biggest gripes has been highlighted here unintentionally, so I'll expand on it. Verizon has a 5gig cap on an "unlimited" plan? Then it isn't a fucking an unlimited plan, is it? It's a 5gig plan, you cockbites. ATT is blocking tethering on the iPhone in a downright crooked attempt to keep those of us with an "unlimited" plan from using too much data, even though we signed up to pay for all the data we want. iPhone is capable of tethering and this feature is offered by every carrier in every country other than here that offers iPhone. Moreover, Blackberry, all the mediocre Samsung clones of each other, and the Palm smartphones offer this feature. I'm sure some data cap is in place in some bullshit legalese phrase in the aggreement you sign for an iPhone so they're covered, but that doesn't make it ok for them to call the plan unlimited. I've used different firmware flashes to tether while in the UCC and it was great, but every time an update comes out it sqaushes my full utilization of my phone. If ATT and the other carriers would quit being restrictive dicks this free broadband discussion would be moot, but they won't. As always they'll continue to fuck you with the cellphone!!!!

askmrjesus · 12-26-2009, 06:41 PM

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away.

JC

Smittie61984 · 12-27-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

You know what the biggest objection to this kind of plan is?

LIBERTY!!!

Yeah, right. What a bunch of crap. All the people yelling about liberty, with their gay ass little snake flags, are full of shit. They don't like it because there's nothing it for them.

What they are too short sighted to see, is that the more money is there is being made, the more money there is being spent, and that benefits EVERYBODY.

Holy shit, you are even dumber than I thought. You want to take other people's money to help contribute to the greater good??? Is this what your Bible looks like?

Avatard · 12-27-2009, 03:07 PM

There has to be an Internet term for invariably pulling the Communist card, much like the whole "Godwin" deal. It seems that with the proliferation of increasingly vocal yet increasingly inane chatter from the right online, almost invariably forum discussion results in some douchnozzle pulling the "communist" card (or the Marxists one, it doesn't matter so long as it has that good 'ole "anti-murcan" ring to it).

We need a term for it.

I nominate Smittie's Law.

Smittie61984 · 12-27-2009, 03:15 PM

Can you think of something more socialist/communist than what AMJ said? You have the government take money away from people, redistribute that money to someone else, and you do it because it will "benefit everybody"?

Why don't you just come to terms with your inner-socialist and just call yourself a socialist? I've never seen people so scared of freedom in my life.

Avatard · 12-27-2009, 03:26 PM

Grow up, Smittie. Patriotism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive. This is legislation that would help us compete internationally against other countries. It will help our economy, and benefit ALL.

Please explain how this is Socialist any moreso than say the Interstate or rail system. You can't because it isn't, and you're a fucking douche - this is about NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

Stop listening to Glen Beck, it's rotting what little fucking brain you have.

I think strategically positioning our country to compete better in International trade is a National Security issue...and an example of fine patriotism, and positive growth for America.

You, on the other hand, sound about as intelligent as Sarah Palin.

Your sig line "You hate what you fear and fear what you don't understand. And that's the way it ought to be. " is a fine example of a scared white guy. It makes you look weak, stupid, fearful and cowardly; a real pussy.

I find it remarkable (and pretty fucking funny) that you somehow display that with pride.

Smittie61984 · 12-27-2009, 03:56 PM

The highway infrastructure was originally for the military (a legit role of government). It is also a voluntary tax since you pay taxes on the roadways through gasoline (which is why you can buy off road diesel for tractors that don't use the highway) and ad valorem (in some states). If you don't drive or own a car then you don't pay taxes on the roadways. I know some federal money goes to the roadways but that's just our fucked up government at work.

Rail system? Built by private companies (such as Union Pacific). I'm opposed to government ran railways. If there is a real benefit to them then a private company would build them since people would be willing to pay for it if it is so vital to our lives.

As for growing our country to compete in the international marketplace being vital to our national security? I can't even comprehend how your dumbass could even come close to making a connection between the two.

As for my signature. I thought it was funny and personally I think it fits you better. You hate freedom because you fear getting the wrong juice. And you fear yourself because you can't understand personal responsibility.

You are just a selfish person who I'm sure Kohlberg would be proud of. It's all about you, you, you, you and you. You want the government to regulate juice labeling so you don't have to think, you want the government to regulate fertilizer companies because you might get the wrong seed, but you want to de-regulate the airport security because it can inconvenience you? You want the government to revolve around you. Which if that is the case then why don't you run for office and make everything right for everyone?

Avatard · 12-27-2009, 04:00 PM

...And you're Ted Kaczynski lite, and one hell of a fucking whackbag.

shmike · 12-27-2009, 04:36 PM

The doctrine that 'human rights' are superior to 'property rights' simply means that some humans have the right to make property out of others; since the competent have nothing to gain from the incompetent, it means the right of the incompetent to own their betters and to use them as productive cattle. Whoever regards this as human and right, has no right to the title of 'human.'

12-26-2009, 06:30 PM	#82
Amorok Issukangitok Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Biloxi, MS Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T Posts: 2,225	One of my biggest gripes has been highlighted here unintentionally, so I'll expand on it. Verizon has a 5gig cap on an "unlimited" plan? Then it isn't a fucking an unlimited plan, is it? It's a 5gig plan, you cockbites. ATT is blocking tethering on the iPhone in a downright crooked attempt to keep those of us with an "unlimited" plan from using too much data, even though we signed up to pay for all the data we want. iPhone is capable of tethering and this feature is offered by every carrier in every country other than here that offers iPhone. Moreover, Blackberry, all the mediocre Samsung clones of each other, and the Palm smartphones offer this feature. I'm sure some data cap is in place in some bullshit legalese phrase in the aggreement you sign for an iPhone so they're covered, but that doesn't make it ok for them to call the plan unlimited. I've used different firmware flashes to tether while in the UCC and it was great, but every time an update comes out it sqaushes my full utilization of my phone. If ATT and the other carriers would quit being restrictive dicks this free broadband discussion would be moot, but they won't. As always they'll continue to fuck you with the cellphone!!!! __________________ What goes around comes around. Sometimes you get what's coming around, and sometimes you are what's coming around. You see what I mean?

12-26-2009, 06:41 PM	#83
askmrjesus Soul Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Everywhere, all the time. Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit). Posts: 6,481	The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away. JC __________________ The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.

12-27-2009, 03:07 PM	#85
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	There has to be an Internet term for invariably pulling the Communist card, much like the whole "Godwin" deal. It seems that with the proliferation of increasingly vocal yet increasingly inane chatter from the right online, almost invariably forum discussion results in some douchnozzle pulling the "communist" card (or the Marxists one, it doesn't matter so long as it has that good 'ole "anti-murcan" ring to it). We need a term for it. I nominate Smittie's Law. __________________ Insert free thought here.

12-27-2009, 03:15 PM	#86
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Can you think of something more socialist/communist than what AMJ said? You have the government take money away from people, redistribute that money to someone else, and you do it because it will "benefit everybody"? Why don't you just come to terms with your inner-socialist and just call yourself a socialist? I've never seen people so scared of freedom in my life. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

12-27-2009, 03:26 PM	#87
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Grow up, Smittie. Patriotism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive. This is legislation that would help us compete internationally against other countries. It will help our economy, and benefit ALL. Please explain how this is Socialist any moreso than say the Interstate or rail system. You can't because it isn't, and you're a fucking douche - this is about NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. Stop listening to Glen Beck, it's rotting what little fucking brain you have. I think strategically positioning our country to compete better in International trade is a National Security issue...and an example of fine patriotism, and positive growth for America. You, on the other hand, sound about as intelligent as Sarah Palin. Your sig line "You hate what you fear and fear what you don't understand. And that's the way it ought to be. " is a fine example of a scared white guy. It makes you look weak, stupid, fearful and cowardly; a real pussy. I find it remarkable (and pretty fucking funny) that you somehow display that with pride. __________________ Insert free thought here. Last edited by Avatard; 12-27-2009 at 03:42 PM..

12-27-2009, 03:56 PM	#88
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	The highway infrastructure was originally for the military (a legit role of government). It is also a voluntary tax since you pay taxes on the roadways through gasoline (which is why you can buy off road diesel for tractors that don't use the highway) and ad valorem (in some states). If you don't drive or own a car then you don't pay taxes on the roadways. I know some federal money goes to the roadways but that's just our fucked up government at work. Rail system? Built by private companies (such as Union Pacific). I'm opposed to government ran railways. If there is a real benefit to them then a private company would build them since people would be willing to pay for it if it is so vital to our lives. As for growing our country to compete in the international marketplace being vital to our national security? I can't even comprehend how your dumbass could even come close to making a connection between the two. As for my signature. I thought it was funny and personally I think it fits you better. You hate freedom because you fear getting the wrong juice. And you fear yourself because you can't understand personal responsibility. You are just a selfish person who I'm sure Kohlberg would be proud of. It's all about you, you, you, you and you. You want the government to regulate juice labeling so you don't have to think, you want the government to regulate fertilizer companies because you might get the wrong seed, but you want to de-regulate the airport security because it can inconvenience you? You want the government to revolve around you. Which if that is the case then why don't you run for office and make everything right for everyone? __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

12-27-2009, 04:00 PM	#89
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Face it, you're a lousy patriot. ...And you're Ted Kaczynski lite, and one hell of a fucking whackbag. __________________ Insert free thought here. Last edited by Avatard; 12-27-2009 at 04:04 PM..

12-27-2009, 04:36 PM	#90
shmike Follower Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,549	The doctrine that 'human rights' are superior to 'property rights' simply means that some humans have the right to make property out of others; since the competent have nothing to gain from the incompetent, it means the right of the incompetent to own their betters and to use them as productive cattle. Whoever regards this as human and right, has no right to the title of 'human.' __________________ Racing For Smiles