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Old 05-15-2008, 08:58 AM   #41
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Better in every way? Thats entirely your opinion...not fact, jack. Dicks...you eat them.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:37 AM   #42
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I can't imagine *needing* it on the street. Though, I'll probably do it to my Monster just so I don't fuck up a shift at the track.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:30 PM   #43
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I just did Lookout Mountain this afternoon. Over 60 tight curves and 9 switchbacks. And that's just going uphill. Not once did I upshift in a curve.
It's about upshifting coming out of the curves... not IN them. You're hanging way off to conserve lean angle coming out of the turn and need to be able to click them off when you run out of revs, from both sides of the bike.
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Better in every way? Thats entirely your opinion...not fact, jack.
Yes, it's my opinion. But I still haven't heard anyone who has tried both methods point out something standard shift has over gp shift... except the fact that most bikes come that way.

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:48 PM   #44
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If you need to upshift at the point where you are leaned over so far that a foot couldn't be put under the gear shifiter, then A) You went into the corner in a wrong gear, or B) you put squids like say, Valentino Rossi, to shame on a daily basis
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:57 PM   #45
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Better in every way? Thats entirely your opinion...not fact, jack. Dicks...you eat them.
Ignorant dicks...you eat them. You haven't even tried it and you're knocking it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:19 PM   #46
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It's not that there is a need, it's that it's better in every respect. What is the benefit of regular shift in contrast to GP? I don't see any.



But, the benefits of GP in contrast to regular:

1. Upshift while leaned to the left are possible due to increased ground clearance.

2. Upshifts easier and faster, just click down. With regular shift it's harder to get your foot under there while accelerating since the force of acceleration is pulling you backwards.

3. Clutchless upshifts a breeze, and preloading the shifter is easier.

4. Upshifts while hanging off the right side of the bike are possible since you just tap down.

5. Downshifts are not any more difficult since the forces of braking are pushing you onto the tank, it's easier to just slip your foot under there than in the case of a regular shift upshift. I can do it just as quickly as a regular shift downshift.
just for comparison purposes
#2 and #3-no benefit either way in my experience.
#5 doesnt really count-doesnt make it better or worse so not really a benefit right?

cant comment on #1 and #4 because im not as badass as a rider as you guys are in the turns lol, but it makes sense.

so if you dont ride that hard, theres not much benefit after all. especially if its more than just a linkage swap i.e. new rear sets

and thats my opinion
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:31 PM   #47
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If you need to upshift at the point where you are leaned over so far that a foot couldn't be put under the gear shifiter, then A) You went into the corner in a wrong gear, or B) you put squids like say, Valentino Rossi, to shame on a daily basis

EXfuckingACTLY

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You haven't even tried it and you're knocking it.

And will continue to do so on a daily basis.
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:40 PM   #48
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And will continue to do so on a daily basis.
You should also punch your face, frequently, on a daily basis.
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:45 PM   #49
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You should also punch your face, frequently, on a daily basis.
Detrimental to my health.
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Detrimental to my health.
I will punchasize your face for free.

Here's the last statement. If you haven't tried it, shut the fuck up. It's way more convinient. I say that because I've tried it. People who haven't tried it have nothing to say about it except for why they haven't tried it.
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