Ford guys...need help with 87 Mustang - Page 2

Avatard · 01-16-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

Bana wrecked his.

All the previous times, when he and his buddies had built out the car, it was fine. Only when he finally paid to have someone else build it out professionally to 600+ hp. did he wreck it. I think it was Leno that said "that's where you screwed up...if you had built it yourself, you'd have never crashed it".

Avatard · 01-15-2010, 08:09 PM

I grew up on V8 American muscle. I was just a bowtie guy. I know this is as simple as a rock, and reasonably beefy. I wish it had a bag in it, for my kid's sake, but it's a reasonably stout car, and no doubt I am thankful I made a similar decision in making her first car a Cherokee. When the rubber side was finally placed in contact with the ground again, the wisdom of my choice became apparent...as while there was nary a straight panel left, the structural integrity of a big American car was probably key in her having nothing but a black eye, and a small cut on her hip from where she crawled out of the wreck to show for it all.

The 'Stang is an internally small but reasonably heavy car...not unlike my '94 'Vette which is nearly as long as a Suburban, but has room for little more than a ham sandwich aside from two passengers...there's a lot of car around you, and this is good.

I live where there's a lot of deer, and trees, and fully loaded massive mack dump trucks rolling past to the quarry at ultra-legal speeds...I would feel irresponsible giving her anything small, new, or Asian...airbags notwithstanding. I'd like to see her in another SUV, but she wanted a car.

I also know the value of being able to keep a car running out of AutoZone, and not the dealer. Old muscle cars are cheap to fix, computer not needed.

I think it'll make a good car for her...

Homeslice · 01-15-2010, 08:34 PM

I'd say after 23 years on ANY car, you should definitely swap the brake lines for some new ones, preferably steel-braided.....

101lifts2 · 01-15-2010, 08:41 PM

Problems are:

1. Burns oil.
2. Starter and/or fender mounted solenoid.
3. AOD transmission isn't all that great.

Those are pretty hard to work on for a small block V8.

How about a Jeep? I mean this is your daughter, right? Chicks like cute little cars like a Smart or something like that. I'd get her a Cavaliar.

Avatard · 01-15-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

How about a Jeep? I mean this is your daughter, right? Chicks like cute little cars like a Smart or something like that. I'd get her a Cavaliar.

I gave my brother a Cavalier wagon. What I like to call a fucking cockroach car (ya can't kill it). Had it for years, he couldn't kill it, so he finally sold it.

As for the Jeep, scroll back...she already had a Cherokee...hell, I even have another '89 I could revive in the driveway, but she wanted a car, so I'm gonna boost it (it needs a head gasket).

derf · 01-15-2010, 10:07 PM

Bring the car in to get the brakes checked anyway, but my bet is that it is teh stock ford brake feel, chevy brakes have always been kinda on/off and real easy, for brakes a little less, but check it anyway

BobTheBiker · 01-15-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

How about a Jeep? I mean this is your daughter, right? Chicks like cute little cars like a Smart or something like that. I'd get her a Cavaliar.

you're joking right? I wouldnt give my worst enemy a cavalier. those things are jsut total pieces of SHIT to me.

odds are, since its an old car, you're gonna want to do a total rebuild on your brake system. lines, hoses, proportioning valves, calipers etc.

Avatard · 01-15-2010, 08:47 PM

I think I might just put a full brake job done on it. The car has plenty of GO, it needs full stop available. Rather than mix a bunch of new and old parts, a full compliment of pads and rotors, exchange calipers, and hoses and proportioning valve replacements (I'm assuming rear drums) would make it stop like a champ. I'll get it in the air and see it better tomorrow. I have a hunch it might be that the vacuum assist is sluggish, because it does stop, the pedal just feels like ass.

Adeptus_Minor · 01-15-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

I think I might just put a full brake job done on it. The car has plenty of GO, it needs full stop available. Rather than mix a bunch of new and old parts, a full compliment of pads and rotors, exchange calipers, and hoses and proportioning valve replacements (I'm assuming rear drums) would make it stop like a champ. I'll get it in the air and see it better tomorrow. I have a hunch it might be that the vacuum assist is sluggish, because it does stop, the pedal just feels like ass.

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKitListF...tang&year=1987

Just sayin

pauldun170 · 01-15-2010, 10:31 PM

I think there is something with that gen front end where a minor 'kadoosh' can leave the front end un-alignable.

I'd leave the body as is and just work on getting the brakes up to snuff.
Is it an Automatic?
If so it will be as quick as 4 banger camry at this point.

01-15-2010, 08:09 PM	#2
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	I grew up on V8 American muscle. I was just a bowtie guy. I know this is as simple as a rock, and reasonably beefy. I wish it had a bag in it, for my kid's sake, but it's a reasonably stout car, and no doubt I am thankful I made a similar decision in making her first car a Cherokee. When the rubber side was finally placed in contact with the ground again, the wisdom of my choice became apparent...as while there was nary a straight panel left, the structural integrity of a big American car was probably key in her having nothing but a black eye, and a small cut on her hip from where she crawled out of the wreck to show for it all. The 'Stang is an internally small but reasonably heavy car...not unlike my '94 'Vette which is nearly as long as a Suburban, but has room for little more than a ham sandwich aside from two passengers...there's a lot of car around you, and this is good. I live where there's a lot of deer, and trees, and fully loaded massive mack dump trucks rolling past to the quarry at ultra-legal speeds...I would feel irresponsible giving her anything small, new, or Asian...airbags notwithstanding. I'd like to see her in another SUV, but she wanted a car. I also know the value of being able to keep a car running out of AutoZone, and not the dealer. Old muscle cars are cheap to fix, computer not needed. I think it'll make a good car for her... __________________ Insert free thought here.

01-15-2010, 08:41 PM	#4
101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	Problems are: 1. Burns oil. 2. Starter and/or fender mounted solenoid. 3. AOD transmission isn't all that great. Those are pretty hard to work on for a small block V8. How about a Jeep? I mean this is your daughter, right? Chicks like cute little cars like a Smart or something like that. I'd get her a Cavaliar. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM

01-15-2010, 10:07 PM	#6
derf token jewboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man Posts: 10,799	Bring the car in to get the brakes checked anyway, but my bet is that it is teh stock ford brake feel, chevy brakes have always been kinda on/off and real easy, for brakes a little less, but check it anyway __________________

01-15-2010, 08:47 PM	#8
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	I think I might just put a full brake job done on it. The car has plenty of GO, it needs full stop available. Rather than mix a bunch of new and old parts, a full compliment of pads and rotors, exchange calipers, and hoses and proportioning valve replacements (I'm assuming rear drums) would make it stop like a champ. I'll get it in the air and see it better tomorrow. I have a hunch it might be that the vacuum assist is sluggish, because it does stop, the pedal just feels like ass. __________________ Insert free thought here.

01-15-2010, 08:34 PM	#3
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	I'd say after 23 years on ANY car, you should definitely swap the brake lines for some new ones, preferably steel-braided.....