When I'm Right I'm Right!!!

Amber Lamps · 10-05-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

What exactly are you "right" about?

That most people who buy 250s on the advice of friends end up getting tired of them quickly. Oh and that the 250 is not necessarily the best starter bike for everyone. How long did you ride your 250 before upgrading?

RACER X · 10-05-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

That most people who buy 250s on the advice of friends end up getting tired of them quickly. Oh and that the 250 is not necessarily the best starter bike for everyone. How long did you ride your 250 before upgrading?

warning warning...........generalization in progress

and becuase a 250 is not a perfect starter bike a 600SS is? what makes it so?
lol

Amber Lamps · 10-05-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

warning warning...........generalization in progress

and becuase a 250 is not a perfect starter bike a 600SS is? what makes it so?
lol

Warning warning..........words being put in mouth AND even quoted as OPPOSITE of what I said! I said in fact that a 600SS is NOT the best starter bike. Just a few posts ago...

azoomm · 10-05-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

That most people who buy 250s on the advice of friends end up getting tired of them quickly. Oh and that the 250 is not necessarily the best starter bike for everyone. How long did you ride your 250 before upgrading?

My first street bike was a CB-1. Not a 250. But, a 400cc heavy ass machine with 42 horsepower. It was a rockin' machine

I rode it for a few years. Then, my ex-husband sold it while I was at work.

At the end of the day, people will do what they want to do.

I've seen incredible learning curves. And, the very idea to purchase a motorcycle just so you can "keep up" tells me exactly where that rider's skill-set is.

Kerry_129 · 10-05-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

And, the very idea to purchase a motorcycle just so you can "keep up" tells me exactly where that rider's skill-set is.

Exactly my point. I never stated anything to the effect of 'everyone should start on a 250' or that one must 'max out' their current bike before upgrading. I can understand wanting more power/speed (especially if she's riding long distances at interstate speeds), better suspension/brakes, etc (and I agree, the stock suspension needs help). But the 'bored with it' and 'tired of being left behind' reasoning after just a few months reeks of an inexperienced rider not yet capable of utilizing what she already has (I'm not saying 'maxing out') & wanting to jump on a supersport so she can 'go faster'. With plenty of respect, she'll hopefully do just fine going that route, as plenty of others have also (myself included, as I started on an F3). But it's still not good reasoning. IMO.

Amber Lamps · 10-05-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129

Exactly my point. I never stated anything to the effect of 'everyone should start on a 250' or that one must 'max out' their current bike before upgrading. I can understand wanting more power/speed (especially if she's riding long distances at interstate speeds), better suspension/brakes, etc (and I agree, the stock suspension needs help). But the 'bored with it' and 'tired of being left behind' reasoning after just a few months reeks of an inexperienced rider not yet capable of utilizing what she already has (I'm not saying 'maxing out') & wanting to jump on a supersport so she can 'go faster'. With plenty of respect, she'll hopefully do just fine going that route, as plenty of others have also (myself included, as I started on an F3). But it's still not good reasoning. IMO.

Okay but what was your "reasoning" for starting so "big"? What was your mindset? Oh and how do you know that she can't "utilize" what she already has? Have you been riding with my gf when I wasn't around?...

This may be one time that Azoom agrees with me but I've honestly seen teenage kids get on both dirt bikes and on the track and ride faster than people that have been doing it for years! Seriously, the kids that are competing in the Red Bull rookie's cup are probably faster than all of us on here... some people have talent. Some people don't need a year or three to get it...

azoomm · 10-05-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Okay but what was your "reasoning" for starting so "big"? What was your mindset? Oh and how do you know that she can't "utilize" what she already has? Have you been riding with my gf when I wasn't around?...

This may be one time that Azoom agrees with me but I've honestly seen teenage kids get on both dirt bikes and on the track and ride faster than people that have been doing it for years! Seriously, the kids that are competing in the Red Bull rookie's cup are probably faster than all of us on here... some people have talent. Some people don't need a year or three to get it...

What the hell does that have to do with anything

Those "kids" start out on 50 and 80cc race bikes.... talk about starting small. My junior racers have been racing since they were 5 - that's a lot more experience than many riders out there. So, don't try to mix that into this conversation. It doesn't fit.

It's ridiculous trying to follow a discussion with you. It hurts.

CasterTroy · 10-05-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

My junior racers have been racing since they were 5 - that's a lot more experience than many riders out there.

I was on the track with 3 of them this weekend and totally shocked how freakin fast and fearless those guys were...the 6 yr old was fast..the 10 yr old was really fast....the 13 yr old? Holy crap...INSANE

Amber Lamps · 10-05-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

What the hell does that have to do with anything

Those "kids" start out on 50 and 80cc race bikes.... talk about starting small. My junior racers have been racing since they were 5 - that's a lot more experience than many riders out there. So, don't try to mix that into this conversation. It doesn't fit.

It's ridiculous trying to follow a discussion with you. It hurts.

So don't.....

The rookie point is that some of those kids are fast immediately, that's all! Some aren't. I'm always just trying to find a way to say that not everyone starts on the same level, so not everyone should start on the same bike.

You know, if you weren't so busy trying to find fault in everything I say, this would be a lot easier. I mean maybe my point wasn't perfectly clear but it was there if you kinda thought about it....

azoomm · 10-05-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

So don't.....

The rookie point is that some of those kids are fast immediately, that's all! Some aren't. I'm always just trying to find a way to say that not everyone starts on the same level, so not everyone should start on the same bike.

You know, if you weren't so busy trying to find fault in everything I say, this would be a lot easier. I mean maybe my point wasn't perfectly clear but it was there if you kinda thought about it....

Man, I'm not finding fault. But, kid racers / go cart drivers / skateboarders / athletes that are in it to be IN IT are different than an adult trying to acquire a skill set. Seriously not even in the same ballpark.

Glad you see your point wasn't clear

I never said someone should start on the same bike. Each case is different. But, I know this from my experience - starting on a bike that has a smaller/easier/forgiving power band will give you the opportunity to learn the skills that are needed to be an accomplished rider.

It's my favorite to watch people try to buy fast.

At the end of the day, it's your money... and your hand on the throttle.