Ducati WSBK Bombshell! - Page 3

TYEster · 08-28-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Aprilia is bad this year ...

For realz... Just terrible.

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/season/standings.html

Dave · 08-28-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Woah, woah, WOAH! LOL!

Aprilia is bad this year but any manufacturer that prototypes off a V4 is going to be bad ass. Really, but that really is a compliment for Aprilia. And that looks to be the direction Ducati want to take. Sit out, come up with a go fast protoype, race it after producing just enough to homologate it. Its after all the Ferrari business plan and it works. The folks who buy these bikes make sacrifices to own the very razors edge of speed, so why clutter it all up with street/public compromises?

Yeah but aprilia priced the bike for the masses, the only part of the "prototype" argument that holds water is the gear cam kit-which is already banned for next year

smileyman · 08-28-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TYEster

For realz... Just terrible.

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/season/standings.html

Meant bad as in good. Bad to the bone, class bully whateva.

smileyman · 08-28-2010, 01:50 PM

Well in my perspective it was a bike designed first for the track, where there was no existing model to update, no emphasis on consumer street sales. Like Honda seems to design a public consumption bike with some tuning latitude and then hot rods it for the track.
It seems to me Kawasaki are trying to pull off their own version of what Aprilia and BMW did. Work up something fresh and current bottom up, rather than taking the existing liter bike and trying to upgrade it and chasing the spec higher in the performance specs...

Dave · 08-28-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Well in my perspective it was a bike designed first for the track, where there was no existing model to update, no emphasis on consumer street sales. Like Honda seems to design a public consumption bike with some tuning latitude and then hot rods it for the track.
It seems to me Kawasaki are trying to pull off their own version of what Aprilia and BMW did. Work up something fresh and current bottom up, rather than taking the existing liter bike and trying to upgrade it and chasing the spec higher in the performance specs...

Yeah but since the litre bike revolution was kicked off by tadao baba's fireblade and the switch to full litres in superbike racing, what litre hasn't been a track focused monster? Aprilia and bmw just did a better job of it than japan this time. ducati handicaps themselves in engine, frame, and airbox and then expects special treatment, I can't feel any sympathy for em

From what I know of the new ten it should make the other three wake up and stop pulling punches. Isint that better for us in the end?

smileyman · 08-28-2010, 07:36 PM

Amen to that brotha! I probably used the wrong term by saying protoype anyway, what I meant was a clean sheet design. And yeah Ducati has used incredible amounts of diplomacy and coersion over the years with the FIM when it comes to 'level and fair' playing fields...

fnfalman · 08-28-2010, 09:57 PM

I don't know why they bitch about the gear cam kit. It's a factory accessory for the RSV4.

Dave · 08-29-2010, 10:26 PM

those haga to kawasaki rumors are starting to get interesting eh?

thought for the day: Leon and Sylvain have reportedly been quicker at each shared track than Loris and Alvaro. maybe its time for an SBK vs GP exhibition race? while im wishing how bout we have it at NJMP, guys...please?

Dave · 08-29-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

I don't know why they bitch about the gear cam kit. It's a factory accessory for the RSV4.

plus all rsv4's have bosses for it machined into the heads

Riceaholic · 08-30-2010, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

those haga to kawasaki rumors are starting to get interesting eh?

thought for the day: Leon and Sylvain have reportedly been quicker at each shared track than Loris and Alvaro. maybe its time for an SBK vs GP exhibition race? while im wishing how bout we have it at NJMP, guys...please?

I'd love to see Haga on the bike he helped develop for Ben. Watch them ride and it's essentially the same style. Huge speed in, make sure the back tire is off the ground, and smoke the tire on the way out.

Combine the knowledge that those two had on setup and anyone could probably run mid pack.

08-28-2010, 01:50 PM	#24
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Well in my perspective it was a bike designed first for the track, where there was no existing model to update, no emphasis on consumer street sales. Like Honda seems to design a public consumption bike with some tuning latitude and then hot rods it for the track. It seems to me Kawasaki are trying to pull off their own version of what Aprilia and BMW did. Work up something fresh and current bottom up, rather than taking the existing liter bike and trying to upgrade it and chasing the spec higher in the performance specs... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

08-28-2010, 07:36 PM	#26
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Amen to that brotha! I probably used the wrong term by saying protoype anyway, what I meant was a clean sheet design. And yeah Ducati has used incredible amounts of diplomacy and coersion over the years with the FIM when it comes to 'level and fair' playing fields... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

08-28-2010, 09:57 PM	#27
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	I don't know why they bitch about the gear cam kit. It's a factory accessory for the RSV4. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

08-29-2010, 10:26 PM	#28
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	those haga to kawasaki rumors are starting to get interesting eh? thought for the day: Leon and Sylvain have reportedly been quicker at each shared track than Loris and Alvaro. maybe its time for an SBK vs GP exhibition race? while im wishing how bout we have it at NJMP, guys...please?