How would you go about laying your bike down?

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

If Ed had a better way to get out of a highside, sure.




So small immovable objects (cables) is a go.

Good, that is my point. There are some instances, though rare, that laying the bike down is a good idea. See that? We're making progress. Everyone else seems to be saying NEVER NEVER NEVER, but you just proved that there are no absolutes.

I knew you'd see it my way.

JC

Dude, seriously...

Originally Posted by Tmall

I don't like your options, how about 35mph without a bike or 5 mph with one?


I undertand what you're saying amj, fully.

But! You will always stop faster while one the bike on the brakes, as opposed to sliding on your ass.


I've looped a bike at 60mph and slid and rolled at least 75 to 100 feet. I could have stopped using my brakes in 1/4 of that.


The bike would have slid much further, but it got stopped by some trees.

[dReWpY]

i wouldnt

[pauldun170]

So...next time I'm faced with
a. limbo bar
b. cable strewn across the r


wait a minute...how thick a cable? What diameter cable are we talking about?
Too thin...you wont have time do all this fancy laying it down stuff.
Too thick and why not just stop the damn bike?

What about height?
If its low enough to hit the fairing...it could just kinds deflect over if you lean down enough...

If its to low then you'll do a high side.

[MILK]

Is this a Harley site now?

[tached1000rr]

Originally Posted by MILK

Is this a Harley site now?

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

So...next time I'm faced with
a. limbo bar
b. cable strewn across the r


wait a minute...how thick a cable? What diameter cable are we talking about?
Too thin...you wont have time do all this fancy laying it down stuff.
Too thick and why not just stop the damn bike?

What about height?
If its low enough to hit the fairing...it could just kinds deflect over if you lean down enough...

If its to low then you'll do a high side.

Don't be a idiot.

Obviously you'd have to get off the bike and measure the cable before making a decision.

Duh!

JC

[BobTheBiker]

laying it down is NOT a good option to me. I'll do that emergency stop the MSF teachers drilled into my head like a MOTHERFUCKER while shitting bricks probably. or simply swerve and brake if need be to avoid an accident.

laying it down counts as crashing no matter what, so honestly, its just not a good answer to a legitimate problem.

if you've taken an MSF course, you know to brake and swerve, to avoid a crash, or do an emergency stop so you can avoid crashes. both are outstanding solutions that allow you to not see how well your gear(or skin for you squids out there) holds up to asphalt. and keep your bike looking nice.

if you ride a harley with no front brake, or drum brakes, disregard this, have another beer and lay it down.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Just wondering if any of you ever think about what technique you will/would/have used to lay your bike down intentionally? Say for instance a car pull out in front of you and there's no where to go, your options are to lay it down or hit the car. Do you have the skills to lay your bike down in time or do you panic and plow into the car?

My father-in-law had to lay his bike down yesterday when a guy pulled out into his path, I have yet to talk with him about the specifics but it gave me an idea for a thread for this section that we may be able to gain some insight on from other's experiences.

Obstacle immediately ahead? Probably would lay it down on the left side if I could. The bars tend to grab the ground, making the bike slide with the rear tire leading. This thus angles the bike in a manner that if anything, may direct you towards the shoulder, which is where you wanna head if you can (and the very thing you're avoiding isn't actually to your right).

[Kerry_129]

Yup. Unless you're about to get decapitated by something (trailer) or have very compromised traction (off-pavement/hydroplaning/oil on tires/snow/etc.), those precious few seconds spent dicking around 'laying it down' would be far better spent braking and/or steering to far more effectively scrub off speed and change direction. It's not like once your ass hits the pavement it magically looses momentum & quits traveling in the same vector the bike was moving when you separate. Now if you brake/swerve so hard that you loose traction and low-side, that's one thing - but to me that's simply loosing it in an avoidance maneuver, not laying it down on purpose.

[fnfalman]

Before I can "lay a bike down" to avoid an obstacle, I gotta go get me a piece of shit Hardly-Ableson, some assless chaps, a skull bandana, some stupid looking sunshades and a ragged out fat bitch with cellulites on her ass.