Whale Wars, anybody watch

[Amber Lamps]

Hey I know, why don't we just kill all those people engaged in legal activities because we don't like it. This reminds me of the nut jobs that spiked a bunch of trees so loggers would get injured if they cut them down or the people who oil corners at the Gap because they don't like us speeding down 129.

The Japanese whalers have found a "loophole" in the law. Get together and change the law but to attack and potentially injure or even kill these sailors who are just trying to make a living... IDK maybe this is another case where I'm stupid/crazy/ an idiot/ etc but I don't get it. This would be like someone against deer hunting setting up booby traps on state land.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

The Japanese whalers have found a "loophole" in the law.

If they really aren't doing any scientific research, then it's not a loophole.......They're simply breaking the law

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If they really aren't doing any scientific research, then it's not a loophole.......They're simply breaking the law

Prove they are doing anything illegal though...

I feel the same way as tigger, I may not condone whaling, but they should be able to shoot those trying to sabotage their ships, in self defense...

If somebody was trying to sink my ship (if I had one), i'd think that was attempted murder.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Prove they are doing anything illegal though...

I feel the same way as tigger, I may not condone whaling, but they should be able to shoot those trying to sabotage their ships, in self defense...

If somebody was trying to sink my ship (if I had one), i'd think that was attempted murder.

Me too! That's like someone trying to stick a pipe in my wheel or flatten my tires. They have a right to defend themselves don't they?

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If they really aren't doing any scientific research, then it's not a loophole.......They're simply breaking the law

Maybe, but then why not have them arrested? They are obviously doing whatever is necessary to satisfy the laws as they stand on the books. Even Greenpeace is satisfied for the most part with the law. Although I am sure that they are working hard to eliminate even this small amount of whale hunting. I'm sorry but to me hunting is hunting. Why does a whale have a greater right to life than a deer? This particular species isn't endangered and these guys are staying well within their quota/limit. It'll never cease to amaze me how some animals are off limits and others are kill on sight.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Maybe, but then why not have them arrested? They are obviously doing whatever is necessary to satisfy the laws as they stand on the books.

I dunno, maybe the Japanese gov't just doesn't care, or they want to protect that part of their economy.

As to your 2nd sentence, how are they satisfying the law? Doesn't look like they're obeying the law to me. Unless as you suggested, they never signed the treaty......in which case it's a moot point

Besides, "international law" is never really enforced anyway.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I dunno, maybe the Japanese gov't just doesn't care, or they want to protect that part of their economy. And it's not like "international law" is ever really enforced anyway.

that's true... it seems to me that the whale lovers could get someone to step in considering all the film/proof that they have if these guys were breaking the law.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I dunno, maybe the Japanese gov't just doesn't care, or they want to protect that part of their economy.

As to your 2nd sentence, how are they satisfying the law? Doesn't look like they're obeying the law to me. Unless as you suggested, they never signed the treaty......in which case it's a moot point

Besides, "international law" is never really enforced anyway.

The Americans bullied them into signing it. Told them, "Sign it, or we'll lower your quotas for other fish." They signed it, yanks said, "neener neener, we're lowering your quotas anyway.." <--- Wiki

[Apoc]

found this while i was looking around:

Canada

Nowadays, Canadian whaling is carried out by various Inuit groups around the country in small numbers and is managed by the Fisheries and Oceans Canada. The meat obtained from this whaling is commercially sold through shops and supermarkets. This meat is typically not available in southern metropolitan centers such as Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal but is more available in northern communities where whale meat is a component of the traditional diet. There is considerable consternation amongst whale hunters and conservationists about the hunt. The Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society says "Canada has pursued a policy of marine mammal management which appears to be more to do with political expediency rather than conservation."

Canada left the IWC in 1982 and as such is not bound by the moratorium on whaling.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Tmall

The Americans bullied them into signing it. Told them, "Sign it, or we'll lower your quotas for other fish." They signed it, yanks said, "neener neener, we're lowering your quotas anyway.." <--- Wiki

Not surprising