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Old 04-26-2011, 08:46 PM   #1
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I don't really care if the tax breaks are kept or removed. I do realize though that the impetus of "screwing those dastardly oil companies" or "getting money from the rich company instead of the working man" are completely removed from reality. The money to pay for it will have to come from somewhere and it is a safe bet it won't come out of their profits. Any increase in tax liability will be passed directly on to consumers at the pump.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:12 PM   #2
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This just in: We're fucked regardless. The rich oil companies (reporting record profits again) will continue to get richer, and they'll do it by taking your money, either as tax breaks or at the pump.

How exactly would you like your fucking, sir?
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:34 PM   #3
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Give it to me at the pump, please. At least it's a more honest-feeling screwing.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:32 AM   #4
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Give it to me at the pump, please. At least it's a more honest-feeling screwing.
I concur with this logic.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:41 AM   #5
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Give it to me at the pump, please. At least it's a more honest-feeling screwing.
That's why they DON'T give it to you at the pump. If you really knew how much it was costing you, you (and about 300 million other people) would raise serious shit.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:35 AM   #6
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LMAO..... no.

First, "short ram" is a dumb riceboy term. While the word "short" is indeed correct, there is absolutely no "ramming" going on with those things.

Just call it a cone filter on a pipe and be done with it.

Second, I've never gained any MPG from those things. All they do is add noise and a bit of power.
There's only two ways to "ram" anything into a motor (without a turbo- or super-charger compressor).

One is by sticking an intake in the wind.

The other is by using a column of air/fuel and the effects of gravity, as in "tunnel ram".
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:53 AM   #7
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There's only two ways to "ram" anything into a motor (without a turbo- or super-charger compressor).

One is by sticking an intake in the wind.

The other is by using a column of air/fuel and the effects of gravity, as in "tunnel ram".
Exactly. And those "short ram intake" gheyness do neither.

All they do is suck in warm underhood air.

And those "heat shields" they sell don't help much.

In my day, we'd use a longer pipe that stretched almost all the way to the ground. Or tunneled it into a hole in the front spoiler.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:58 AM   #8
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Actually, there's another place you can grab air. At the high pressure area at the center of the cowl (but this is known, not surprisingly, as cowl-induction).
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:01 AM   #9
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Actually, there's another place you can grab air. At the high pressure area at the center of the cowl (but this is known, not surprisingly, as cowl-induction).
Yep, but it's more difficult to accomplish without cutting metal or buying a custom hood.
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:52 AM   #10
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